Must have been terrifying for JMCrofts when he waged an obscure FGC facts competition and his opponent started off on Fighting Street for TurboGrafx16

I'm not gonna lie, it's the first time I've seen GuileWinQuote on camera and I'm disappointed about him not being a living Guile sprite.

I took out any and all applicable knowledge out of my brain so I could store esoteric Street Fighter knowledge and it finally paid off. Thanks for having me!!!

This is the cyclops ryu handshake of fighting game KZfaq videos

The Doreamon sprite reveal blew my fucking mind.

"Mysterious Rock" is an emote in SF6, attainable from the SF2 sticker pack.

The rocks on Sagat stage moved because in the previous versions of SF2 skilled players would use them as a guide for frame traps and positioning. The devs felt that gave an unfair advantage. So they programmed it to move every round.

uncovering that Doraemon sprite is like the SF3 equivalent of people figuring out you really CAN get General Leo in your party

The 1/256 chance of getting a special move while pressing normals is not a glitch. That was put in SF2 specifically so people could potentially see the cool moves without actually knowing how to do them. Because inputs were basically a secret at the time. The figured if you saw it happen you might experiment trying to figure out how it was done.

The reason for the rocks movement is because a dev while testing the game found that the rocks could help setup combos for Ryu, so they implemented the random rock movement for it, the full fact in is 30th anniversary collection

A crossover that’s long overdue! Also <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1038">17:18</a> you can change the sign to a red one, over the shop in the crowded downtown stage with the same input 😉

One of my off the cuff obscure pieces of SF2 trivia is that in the GBA port of Super Turbo, Bison, Vega and Balrog have their win quotes mixed up which indicates that the localizer was not aware of their names being shuffled in the Western versions and the script was sent over to the team with the JP names. Claw has Boxer's line, Boxer has Dictator's line - which for "My fists have your blood on them" and "You can't compare to my powers" are a bit odd coming from them but not entirely out of left field but then you have Dictator saying "Handsome fighters never lose battles."

Who needs MvC 4, the true crossover we needed is right here, JMcrofts and GuileWinQuote.

Here's my favourite obscure trivia. I contributed this to the Street Fighter Plot Guide back in the Shoryuken days. In the Japanese version of SFA3, Juni notes "BP" and "SP" numbers about most opponents in her win quotes. In her Guile win quote for example (pun fully intended), she says "BP8200/SP8600. The target's highest output of SP was recorded at 10420." Now, I made this list back then: Ryu BP 125500 - 178 cm - 65 kg Ken: BP 7500 SP8400 - 176 cm - 76 kg Chun-Li: BP 6900 SP 6800 - 170 cm - ? kg Sagat: BP 12600 SP 10900 - 226 cm - 109 kg Adon: BP 8200 SP 7300 - 182 cm - 73 kg Birdie: BP 11600 SP 11000 - 216 cm - 111 kg Sodom: BP 10800 SP 10800 - 208 cm - 108 kg Charlie: BP 8600 SP 8400 - 186 cm - 84 kg Rose: BP 7800 SP 5400 - 178 cm - 54 kg Akuma: BP 7800 SP 120000 - 178 cm - 80 kg Dan: BP 3700 SP 7400 - 177 cm - 74 kg Dhalsim: BP 8600 SP 4800 - 176 cm - 48 kg Zangief: BP 11400 SP 12100 - 214 cm - 121 kg Rolento: BP 8000 SP 8100 - 180 cm - 91 kg Blanka: BP 9200 SP 9800 - 192 cm - 98 kg Vega: BP 8600 SP 7200 - 186 cm - 72 kg Cody: BP 8500 SP 8800 - 185 cm - 80 kg Balrog: BP 9800 SP 10200 - 198 cm - 102 kg Juli: BP 12800 SP 8600 - 164 cm - 49 kg Juni: BP 12400 SP 8200 - 162 cm - 46 kg THawk: BP 13000 SP 16200 - 230 cm - 162 kg Guile: BP 8200 SP 8600 - 182 cm - 86 kg As you can see, in most cases the numbers correlate exactly to their physical stats. SP = weight in kg x 100. BP = (height in cm - 100) x 100. Juli and Juni's BP numbers are doubled from what they should be, and Ryu and Akuma are just off the charts for probably Satsui no Hadou reasons. This also seems to indicate Chun-Li's official weight, at least by Alpha 3, as 68 kg. Famously, Chun-Li's weight has always publically been listed as "secret".

I remember reading that the rocks move so they couldn’t be used to gauge your zone distance n the corner.

Uncovering the hidden Doraemon without hacking is one of the most epic things I've ever seen. He won on that alone.

Make this a series. Two of the absolute best in the FGC.

HU Air is a nod to Hudson Soft who were the main software peeps behind the NEC systems.

Christ, that Chun-Li SF3 glitch was incredible. I was wondering where it was all going and it turned out to be a hilarious payoff!

Lmao, that build up of the third strike Doraemon Sprite got me laughing more than I expected

I think Desk spent over a month trying to recreate that Blanka air block… 🐐

The rocks move because during development they found it was easy to set up fireball traps in the corner. Therefore, random placement.

Fun fact about SF4: If you look in the game's files, Abel and Gen have the animations and data for Ryu's command normals. Also, Ryu's EX fireball was originally intended to be a regular special move, performed with a HCF input like in SF2.

Legend has it that in the original SF2, you could fight a secret character named Sheng Long. Ok, ok. Everybody knows about that one.

The Dan Dan is so silly. 😂

"I now have all the glitches" We have the Thanos of Street Fighter right here 😂 Brilliant!

the logic behind take no prisoner seems to be that rolento is chaining up his opononent and Cody has chains around his wrists so he can latch on to a low block, at least to me.

Haven't seen the video but, for me, the most obscure thing I know is the Konami code works in the arcade version of Street Fighter II and Champion Edition. You enter the code but end with Jab and Strong during the Attract mode. The cabinet will show the usage data for all characters so far. It's dumb and it only shows numbers (no names). But it is my super oscure thing.

Another obscure fun fact about 3rd Strike: Q's winquotes are completely absent from the Anniversary Collection on PS2/Xbox. Usually, when he wins, he speaks in nothing but elipses (.........) but if you played it on said version, it's just completely blank. Don't know if this makes Q even creepier than he already is or not...

So for the ST picking old characters. It is even easier. For any character you can just mash 2 opposite corners. Example: Up left, and bottom right. The game doesn't care what order or extra inputs were done in between, as long as the inputs were done at some point.

Simply knowing that Doraemon is watching us struggle against Gill, far from sight like a little creeper, keeps me up at night.

I knew that if you pick the bubblegum that EDDIE throws in FINAL FIGHT, your character regains some life

Because the rocks look so distinct from the background, I remember thinking there had to be some kind of interactivity with them. Like they could be picked up and used or something.

3rd Strike has variance in its stun but its not visually represented. The type of hit that hits you determines a main stun category, all of which have a range of potential values and one is randomly picked. Its random enough that mashing out of denjin setups can be impossible or possible entirely because of the number you get. But I believe the stars/reapers above the head is instead just a visual tied to the character itself. (Urien always gets reapers, for example)

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="623">10:23</a> "NO WAY!" GuileWinQuote is early 90s wholesome, so pure! Him and fighting games are a match made in heaven! I highly recommend follow him if you're into weird fighting game trivia and fighting game theory in general. Very informative, very interesting.

If you want another obscure and weird fact, I'm 99% sure that Guile's theme and Ken's theme in SF2 were supposed to be swapped. Guile is the "Top Gun" archetype, and if you listen to "Mighty Wings" from the Top Gun soundtrack, it actually sounds like Ken's theme. I think either the USA1.mp3 and USA2.mp3 files were switched by accident, or they made the theme and then realized they didn't want to get sued and switched them last minute.

The SF2 Animated Movie poster being in SFA just reminded me of the other easter egg from that game where if you set the game to Japanese region, then enter the code for the 2-player Dramatic Battle Ryu/Ken vs. Bison, the stage music changes to the song from the SF2 Animated Movie.

HuAIR likely is a reference to Hudson Soft, the company that co-created the TurboGrafx-16 (with NEC).

Clearly the Doraemon easter egg confirms the Street Fighter staff members have always been his fans, because G's colors 12 and 13 in SFV pay homage to him, as said by them themselves.

JMCrofts at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="590">9:50</a> hitting that "when will you wear wigs?" Elijah Wood laugh

Someone's probably already mentioned this, but to pick old characters in ST, just mash diagonals. press a button, mash up/back to down/forward and tap punches or whatever. the diagonals overlap with the up/down/left/right inputs so you'll get your old character 100% of the time.

For me, Desk, GuileWinQuote, JMcrofts and Rooflemonger are the 4 kings of FG KZfaq right now

Like some Mario 64 Pannen lore with that forbidden sprite

The rocks were programmed to move randomly because they were used as a marker for fireball stunlocks. Since they're moved randomly, it throws off the exact location to stand to commence fireball lock mayhem.

Small correction: When you wanna do Ken's post-K.O. funky kicks, you don't link them, you _cancel_ them. This is(or 'they are,' because all 3 versions work) the only special move in the entire game that can cancel into itself. That is why it works, because you don't return to neutral, which would lock you in place after a K.O./Time Over.

i think the sonic boom thing is intentional if i recall WW had random chances for special moves so people who didnt know about super moves could experience them then would ideally try to figure out what happened

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="631">10:31</a> the rocks could be used as a landmark for ryus corner traps in earlier versions, so they made it random to prevent it from being overly easy to space

I was not expecting that Doraemon reveal. Talk about a plot twist.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="90">1:30</a> that ending looks like the ending to Bloodsport.

Crystal cube collecting third strike glitches like the infinity stones so he could snap a cat into existence.

These kinds of videos are what the internet/youtube meant to be about. Just shenanigans about things you love and going over them like when you were a kid and showing these things to your friends at home during summer lol

When it starts with a Turbografx secret you know it's gonna be an epic crossover ! Great vid

Honestly hearing the description of how CrystalCube found that Doreamon Sprite, and GuileQuote saying "He collected all the glitches" it just makes me think of him like Thanos, collecting the glitches like the Infinity Stones to finally "snap" him into existence.

Another way to do a sonic boom with no charge in World Warrior that works every time - do a medium punch throw in either direction, continue holding that direction, then press some punch button.

for selecting the old characters in ST, it's not 360, it's just quickly move the stick up left and down right repeatedly and quickly while mashing jab. works for every single character.

omfg the doraemon sprite got me good lmao

that Doraemon sprite being high up in Gills stage and then a set of weird ass glitches actually letting you see it ingame its the most insane shit ive seen about a SF game

Gill's meteors are actually just Doraemon emptying his magic pocket

The Take No Prisoners thing reminds me of the Saibaman Instakills Yamcha thing from Budokai 3. One characters's super/special having special properties against another character they have history with.

Another piece of trivia for you guys is if you super im not sure of the specifics but in 3s arcade version you can pause on certain frames and some odd out of place stage pops up during it ive had it on multiple stages it looks like some older capcom game backgrounds

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="322">5:22</a> M. Bizarro out here making what we thought we saw as kids into REALITY.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1520">25:20</a> sounds like GuileWinQuote is a SFVI 3D Edition enjoyer, that game and its touch screen no charge specials.

That jump over glitch still works in Alpha 2, I would do it back in the day at Family Fun

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I can name another fighting game with a quirk similar to the Rolento/Cody one. In the Blazblue games, Terumi's throw animation has him sweep his opponent's ankles then flip kick them to the ground. In Chronophantasma, for some reason if he fought Litchi it would behave differently, he'd feint the sweep and just flip over and kick her, it would even do one less hit on the combo counter. I think it was changed in future versions of the game and to this day I still don't know if it's intentional or a weird easter egg because there's a couple others in the BB games, like Rachel not having a reflection on any stage with glass or water.

Most fun and entertaining video i've seen in a while , keep up the good work guys!

There was an old gaming rag i remember reading years and years ago, can't remember which one. It was showing these "hidden secret moves" in i think vanilla SF2. I can only remember Guile doing the spinning backfist with like an uzi photoshopped in blasting someone and Dhalsim for some reason kicking someone with his head at the end of his foot. Please tell me someone else remembers this? Oh, i think Honda jumped in the tub behind him on his stage?

Great video guys. Didnt know any of this. Be good to see you guys together again

Chun going to a parallel universe with that 3rd strike fact

A fun fact/easter egg similar to the sf1 one is that in most versions of SF2, like SSF2 or SF2T, if you beat arcade mode on the hardest difficulty without losing a single round you get a special ending. It sounds like a playground rumor but its true lol Like in turbo itll say at the end "You are [your character] master" with them doing their win pose Kinda underwhelming considering you have to beat SF2 Akuma without losing a single round lol

Great video! Doraemon had me rolling, so random!

jmcroft being a da vinci resolve editor makes this video even better

Man this was a great video, really enjoyed the cross over and content

Thanks for all you do bud. I struggle with going online due to social troubles. But you keep my love for fighting games alive. Keep going strong and great vid.

Please do more of these!! Really highlights some of the more hilarious aspects of fighting games

Brooo the doraemon stuff was wild so much fun to know that random crazy stuf xd

Great video! Can remember reading about the Doraemon one on Twitter - insane stuff!

I knew about the mash punch thing. It was added to show that SF2 had special moves. Iirc, everyone can do it

Bro, what's that rabbit eating? 💀 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1006">16:46</a>

I read somewhere that the magical moving rocks was to stop people from using them to gauge distance with attacks (like the lines on training stages). I have no idea if that's true but I always remembered it.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1064">17:44</a> - 3rd Strike actually has does have 4 different dizzy animations: - Stars, chicks, reapers/skulls, angels

GuileWinQuote is the fucking best. 1,000%

Rolento wasn't a cop in Final Fight, he was a mercenary, so he wouldn't arrest anyone.

Such a wholesome battle of wits! Loved it! The Doraemon glitch was insane

When i was a kid there was a rumor that you could throw the rocks on Sagat & Chun Li's stage somehow

wow I never noticed the rock on sagat's stage moving around like that! also that 3rd strike one was freaking wild, man!

I vividly remember reading about the bunny drawing in the Overpass stage on I think gamefaqs forever ago and trying it out myself, however I also remember seeing another bizarre easter egg background change for the Crowded Downtown stage. From what I remember, the red sign on top of the shop turns green lol

that was fun to watch! Great video guys!

Talking obscure knowledge: There is a secret code for the turbo graphics cd version (Fighting street) that allows for the special moves to to be executed with the equivalent of the “select” button, along with a direction on the D-pad to make them function reliably. This makes completing this version quite a bit easier.

The "Magic Rock" is a hilarious easter egg that I did not know about prior to this video, but it bears a striking resemblance to an enemy from another legendary Super Nintendo title, Chrono Trigger! In the last quarter of Chrono Trigger's plot, our team of heroes climbs Mt. Woe, a bound mountain floating in the sky, and on it, will sometimes battle a golden rock creature simply called "Rubble". They dish out a large amount of xp and ap, but they have a really high evasion stat, they flee after a short time, they lock all of your abilities at the start of battle before anyone can make any actions, and they do not respawn, so there's a very limited number of them you can fight throughout the game. Minus the face and legs I couldn't help but think of this when I saw the rock move, as if to suggest that it just might actually have legs and a mind of its own, we just don't see it moving, only that it's moved. It's a Rubble I tell you! 😂

What a fun video. Appreciate you guys

YES! THE GREATEST CROSSOVER

Dude the collab I never though would happen! Love GuileWinQuote and that sweet q chip intro 😎

The rocks in the background of sagats stage move because someone at Capcom noticed you could use it for ryus corner traps

What's really interesting is there's a flash of Doraemon in Breath of Fire 3 during Ryu's Ascension animation

NEC did not want to pay the licensing fee to use the “Street Fighter” trademark. So they called the game Fighting Street. Also, the NEC/HudsonSoft port of the game was released in 1989, one year after the movie Bloodsport. The reason this is relevant is that the ending screen on the TG-16 version where Ryu is climbing the plane staircase is almost a direct screen grab from the Bloodsport movie ending. The original arcade version (1987) doesn’t have this ending.

WOAH. GuileWinQuote has a FACE!? I loved this, seems like such a cool guy and I'd love to see him more. Get him in on the next JMcup!

I seem to remember hearing for the Sonic Boom without a charge that every character is programmed to randomly do a special move with a normal punch/kick but it's extremely rare. I've never tested it but that would make sense because I've seen people playing Ryu/Ken throw fireballs without doing the motion and being confused.

The plane in _Fightng Street_ is supposedly Hu Air, in light of Hudson Soft, who designed the PC Engine.

We need more of these. Crazy glitches, and potential to give more life to some games. It was a great idea.