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Harbor Freight Band Saw Upgrades | Riser Kit, Upper Guide, and New Tires

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Bassador Woodworking

Bassador Woodworking

Күн бұрын

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@Hicks8907
@Hicks8907 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely every mod I’m looking to make on mine I just picked up today thanks for the video!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 9 ай бұрын
4:45 ... I've been using the same Harbor Freight bandsaw for over 30 years! Last year one of the trunnions cracked apart. Fortunetly it was easy to replace it. However recently the bolt on the blade guide assembly stripped out the threads on the (poorly) cast assembly. Finding a replacement was proving difficult so I ended up drilling it out and retapping for a larger bolt! Fixed!!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, and good work on the repair! I have found that to be the case with a number of my cast iron Harbor Freight machines. Their castings are often suboptimal, but usually there is enough good there to warrant the effort of a repair.
@randyneese7902
@randyneese7902 9 ай бұрын
Just up graded my harbor freight with the grizzly riser block . I had a little trouble getting the pins out. I damaged them so I used some cut off bolts and that worked. I bought a 3/4 rod from tractor supply. Unfortunately the rod was a little bigger then the hole for blade guard. I’m going to bore them out a little and this should work. Thanks for posting your video. It gave me the confidence to make the upgrades on my saw.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Great work on getting the riser block installed!
@paulwaldrop
@paulwaldrop Жыл бұрын
I had the same saw and did similar upgrades. There are a couple I would recommend. There is a handle turning tension, that gets rid of the knob, that works great. Also, I replaced the regular belts with the Link belts, and it took my saw vibration to zero and quieted it down. Only other thing is that there is a kreg import fence kit that works great on it. Good video and great job.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! I have also swapped out the V belts with link belts, and you are correct; the difference is night and day. I will need to look into the crank to replace the knob, I have seen mixed reviews.
@Rebel9668
@Rebel9668 2 ай бұрын
Also nice :) I have an old 14" Delta (28-276) I plan on putting a riser kit on soon. I think the Jet riser kit will fit mine without any modifications to it. As for now I'll just keep using my old cool block guides though. My tires are still in really good condition so I won't have to change those either and be able to save a couple of bucks. I'm fortunate in that my old saw has a quick release tensioner on it.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Ай бұрын
Thank you! I have been looking at tension release systems that will fit this saw. I just have to get the courage up to spend the money. 🤣
@rbwoodwork1890
@rbwoodwork1890 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Exactly what I want to do to mine! I had a friend make an aluminum insert to replace that plastic one. Made all the difference in operation.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will really need to look into an aluminum insert- I have been 3D printing mine and they work okay but aluminum would be a definite upgrade.
@jamyers121
@jamyers121 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see if you could just turn the riser on upside down? Or is there something I'm missing. It looks like turning upside would flip the holes in the direction you want and just transfer the pins, unless the riser didn't come with them
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to double-check but I definitely could not have simply installed the riser upside down. I think the riser may have a slight taper? I am not 100% sure though. It has been a while since I last had the saw apart.
@fabianherrera5427
@fabianherrera5427 26 күн бұрын
Man thanks for the video everything I needed to know, if I do purchase this is in the future ill be sure to hit your affiliate link as a thanks! I thought a riser block would be easy to find but apparently not and couldnt find much *solid* info online and in forums.. btw i just picked this up for 260 new as it is on clearance and they have a 40% off coupon for all clearance items rn... and if anyone knows a buddy or shop or has a metal lathe(I dont) im sure you could just turn the bar stock down..
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! 260 is a really good price for this saw, congrats! All good suggestions for making the included bar stock work,
@rrb79
@rrb79 Жыл бұрын
Grizzly H7316 riser block kit has a diameter of 3/4" and apparently that's the only difference with the one used in the above video (per live chat). Has anyone used that kit with their HF bandsaw?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
I can't say for sure, but it looks promising.
@principle_lecture
@principle_lecture Ай бұрын
I have this bandsaw still in the box, I hope I can sell it for $270 or so, I bought a used Grizzly, the same saw painted green that had the table extension 1 HP motor, and nice rip fence. I messed around with it for weeks trying to get it to slice some soft 2 X 6 lumber. None of these similar bandsaws cut more than 2 inch thick wood at all. Period. I gave up and sold my Grizzly. If that's what you're trying to do, stop, stop, turn around and go back. Either get some more categorically serious equipment or give up.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Ай бұрын
I'm sorry you had a negative experience. I regularly use this band saw to cut guitar bodies and blanks for the lathe, many of which start more than 2 inches thick and are typically hard wood.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 5 ай бұрын
Ever cut foam with your band saw? Does the foam debris accumulate or gum up the works in the lower wheel chamber?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I have cut a little bit of rigid foam using a band saw, but I would hesitate to cut any foam softer than something like an exercise mat using a Band Saw; my fear is that it could snag, pull into the saw, and possibly do some damage even when using a high TPI blade.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 5 ай бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking Well I'm trying to find the best power tool to 'rip' 8' long 4" thick extruded polystyrene (blue Dow Styrofoam) into 8" bevel cut strips for insulation on an underground concrete barrel vault shaped structure. Hundreds of such cuts. A hot knife worked slowly and poorly. Any ideas of a better idea than a large band saw? (most use spray applied application, but that's expensive and I already have a semi load I got a great price at auction)
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 5 ай бұрын
@@ForbiddTV Foam insulation might be dense enough to not cause any problems for a band saw, take a look at Simmon's blades. It looks like they have a whole line of blades designed for medium to high density foam cutting.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 5 ай бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking I will check that out, thanks for your responses!
@diyresttube
@diyresttube 3 жыл бұрын
thats nice band saw..hope ill had this one someday.😀😀😀
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I am really happy with it. with a little work it is a great saw!
@billysmether6237
@billysmether6237 2 жыл бұрын
I think someone else made this comment but can't you just flip the block arrow down to get match on pins? Was looking for a larger bandsaw but room is premium so spacer and HF should do the trick I need for resawing. Will have to try the flip!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! It is definitely worth a look. It has been a while since I performed this upgrade but it would be cool if all the work I did turned out to be unnecessary 😂
@StinkyWizzleTits
@StinkyWizzleTits 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesnt work. If you flip it the holes are in exactly the same spot.
@billysmether6237
@billysmether6237 2 жыл бұрын
@@StinkyWizzleTits Good To Know Thanks.
@daringetae5136
@daringetae5136 Жыл бұрын
Man, that was a lot of work. Can you resaw with that thing? Thanks for sharing.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Yes, it is a decently capable resawing machine. I have resawn a bunch with it, it is a little under-powered so I have to compensate with a more aggressive blade, but I make do.
@ppgwhereeverett4412
@ppgwhereeverett4412 8 ай бұрын
At 2:08, you went the Wrong Way with that bolt !
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 8 ай бұрын
I sure did! 😂
@jasoncarman1804
@jasoncarman1804 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have part numbers for the added upgrades? What was the total cost of upgrades? How difficult would it be to add a larger motor, such as. 1 1/2 or 2 HP? This looks like a very good alternative to other very expensive options
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! There are links in the description to all of the parts that I used. I am not sure I would trust the existing motor-mount to a larger HP motor. It would be a simple switch, but I am not sure the mounting plate is sturdy enough to stay true with a larger motor.
@user-zb5fl8zq5c
@user-zb5fl8zq5c 7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of doing this. What would you saw is the largest "reasonable" resaw depth? Maybe 8" soft woods, 6" hardwoods if you're not doing large quantities?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Those numbers sound completely reasonable and inline with most of what I do on the band saw. I have resawn larger hardwoods and just let the saw do its thing while I SLOWLY feed the board in. It takes a while but the cut quality has never been an issue. I usually give large boards a resaw pass on the table saw to give the blade a guide through the board. I don't think it is required but it is something that I have always done.
@kevinbrown3603
@kevinbrown3603 Жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase the blade guide from and what was the part number? I would like to change to the ball bearing blade guide.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I have a link to the blade guide I purchased in the video description.
@fouroakscrafts7240
@fouroakscrafts7240 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and thanks for the upgrade ideas! I'm looking at buying this bandsaw to upgrade from my old Delta bench-top bandsaw. Just curious does this have 3/4 HP motor or 1 HP motor and would it be good for making bandsaw boxes? I'm really not too interested in re-sawing but just need a little more powerful bandsaw to make things like small boxes or other crafts. Thanks again for the tips!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The saw has a 1 horsepower motor, it is a great saw for bandsaw boxes; provided you use an appropriate blade.
@bank80
@bank80 2 жыл бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking It's actually a 3/4 hp motor.
@dustinmantei76
@dustinmantei76 2 жыл бұрын
What is the resaw capacity now with the riser? Cost for additional capacity is astonishing for new saws
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
The riser gives me just about 12 inches of resaw capacity
@a9ball1
@a9ball1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How do you know what size blade to buy after installing the riser?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Before the riser block, the blade length is 93.5", so you take that and add the height of the riser block (6") multiplied by 2. So you add 12 to the blade length and end up with a 105.5", the nearest size blade to that is 105".
@milesmanglos1583
@milesmanglos1583 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Any issues now that you’ve had several months using it? I’m strongly considering doing this same upgrade with the Grizzly kit.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
I have had zero issues with the entire set up. I use it almost daily and everything is solid. I have been surprised by how much of an improvement adding the riser and the new tires made to the saw.
@peterkolovos3079
@peterkolovos3079 8 ай бұрын
By my calculations, you dropped at least $300.00 into the upgrades? Wouldn't it have been cheaper to buy a better saw from the get-go?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I don't think I spent that much on the upgrades. If I recall, I was closer to the $225 mark, but even so- I am not sure if it would have been cheaper. The Harbor Freight saw was $300 when I bought it, if we take your number of $300 for upgrades, that is still about half of what a saw with comparable resaw capacity etc. would cost from Grizzly or Rockler (about $1,000). If you take the cost of the HF bandsaw now, ($480) and add the $300 for upgrades, you are still coming out ahead. Also, my way was more fun 🤣, which was a large part of the point of the project.
@randalldoxsee6204
@randalldoxsee6204 Ай бұрын
​@BassadorWoodworking thanks for the idea! I just bought a 2hp motor for my central machinery band saw ($50 on fb market!) I'll be installing that soon and then I'll look at the upgrades in this video!
@kevinpawpadawgmoore8175
@kevinpawpadawgmoore8175 Жыл бұрын
wife gifted me an old green version of this same saw...has 1hp motor, however the previous owner abused the saw.....had the blade running along side the edge of the bearings that were suppose to be behind the blade, as such the added tension and stress broke the outside cool block holders. I am.looking to replace them and saw your video, however when I went to look up the parts the only one that seems to not load is the link you have listed for the guide bearings. I looked online and the only ones I see are rather pricey ($229). where did you purchase yours?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
These are the bearings I purchased from Amazon, amzn.to/3RhDH7r The link worked for me, but if it doesn't load for you, just search for ACCURA 14" bearing guide. They were around $70 when I purchased them.
@bernardlauer2582
@bernardlauer2582 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get the hardware to hold the blade Gide wheels
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
The upper blade guide came as an assembly and slotted right into the OEM slot and used the OEM hardware to mount.
@johnmessenger7292
@johnmessenger7292 Жыл бұрын
it looks to me like you could have just flipped the block end for end and ignored the "UP" arrow.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I would have to double-check to see if that would have worked, I sincerely hope I didn't miss that as an easier solution- but it is entirely possible.
@johnmessenger7292
@johnmessenger7292 Жыл бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking yeah that would be one of those "now you tell me" kinda moments. Oh well it still worked
@brad0805
@brad0805 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, and i'm considering doing this as well. I wouldn't even consider it if you hadn't posted this video, so HUGE thank you for this. I need to ask what sku number is your saw? The only one I seem to be able to find in stock is the 60564 sku. Much appreciated!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! My saw is item # 60564 according to the manual that came with the saw.
@brad0805
@brad0805 Жыл бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking thanks!
@raeliean
@raeliean Жыл бұрын
Seems like this is your most viewed video ? Then your other most viewed in descending order are all reviews as well - is that right ?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! It does appear that this is my most watched video. I do no do a whole lot of review videos; I have done like 3 or 4 review videos vs. more than 50 project videos, review videos have performed well, but I prefer to do projects over reviews.
@Atekcs
@Atekcs Жыл бұрын
How much was the total cost to upgrade everything?
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking Жыл бұрын
It has been a couple of years but, looks like all the upgrades can be done for: Riser Kit: about $100 from Grizzly Band Saw Tires: about $20 on Amazon Rod for guide bearings: about $15 from a hardware store New guide bearings: looks like they go for around $80 now on Amazon, may be cheaper elsewhere though. So all in, it looks like it could be down for $200 if you were to use the most readily available parts. There may be savings that you can find by looking at compatible replacements from Amazon. I have links in the description to the parts I used which would make a good starting point but you can definitely save some money by shopping around.
@edmc755
@edmc755 3 жыл бұрын
What brand name of saw would you suggest for my first saw ???
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of variables to consider in that question so it would be hard to make an accurate recommendation. I can tell you that my first band saw was a 12 inch Craftsman 113 band saw. I love and still own that saw. It is a completely capable saw if your main intention of the bandsaw is to cut curves. It is not a great resawing machine. Wen also makes a really nice inexpensive saw that you can find on amazon.
@Augcliffe
@Augcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate any video modding Harbor Freight stuff but it’s only a 1hp motor, what’s the point in putting on a riser. It’s not like you are going to resaw with that. Also, after all the cost and effort why not just get a 1.5hp 14” bandsaw? You’ll could say cost, but after the time and money on this you’ll be pretty much there
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting. The short answer is: Because it is fun. The Longer answer: Although it is only 1 HP, it is still a pretty capable at resawing if you use the proper blade. The Added height also allows for the use of a wider selection of jigs. I also get attached to my machines and would rather have them grow along with me by upgrading components when needed rather than toss and replace with a newer or bigger model.
@Augcliffe
@Augcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking thanks for update!
@dancassidy7471
@dancassidy7471 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for a resaw bandsaw..im liking this saw an price
@Augcliffe
@Augcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@dancassidy7471 not for the price. You get what you pay for. Search for 14”, 1.5HP bandsaw. They are the cheapest of the nice ones so to speak.
@dancassidy7471
@dancassidy7471 2 жыл бұрын
@@Augcliffe Rikon 1.5 vs 1.75 hmm? Thanks as I'd like to leave this to son when my time is up..71 yrs here
@danazzyym41
@danazzyym41 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the kit
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I have a link to the kit in the video description
@Jeedehem
@Jeedehem 18 күн бұрын
Just bought it used…. Wanted something powerful within my reach. The machining quality of this thing is dangerously abysmal. If you are thinking of getting one, I strongly suggest that you enhance the rigidity of the base. MORE IMPORTANTLY: the man I bought the saw from was on the verge of a big accident, as the two v-straps were almost completely ripped apart. Get rid of those, put something decent instead, AND ESPECIALLY: buff the all stages of the gears. You won’t believe how cutting are the edges!
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I found the quality of my saw to be about what I expected. I was not expecting a perfect casting for the price I paid, I have had no issues with the belts or pulleys though. As long as they are coplanar, you shouldn't do any damage to the belts. In the process of performing other upgrades, I did swap out the stock V belts for a couple of link belts to reduce the overall vibration of the machine.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 3 жыл бұрын
Massachusetts is an awful place to live and have a shop. The people are rude and bigoted. No decent woodworking stores anywhere.
@BassadorWoodworking
@BassadorWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Being a lifelong Massachusetts resident, I have to disagree. Most of the people I have encountered in my life have been kind and respectful. There are bigoted people everywhere in the world but I don’t go into an interaction with someone assuming anything about them. There is a lack of big name woodworking stores but there are some gems out there if you know where to look- online shopping has also closed the gap.
@Rufio1975
@Rufio1975 3 жыл бұрын
@@BassadorWoodworking I would have to agree. I have traveled all over and there are awful people everywhere. Sounds like this person is either having a bas day or just wants to be a jerk behind the screen.
@vincew.6905
@vincew.6905 2 жыл бұрын
He hasn’t been to CT LOL
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