Hard Disk PCB Repairs

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7 жыл бұрын

Got a couple of hard drives in this week which had failed.. Turns out that mechanically the drives were ok, however the PCB's were at fault in different ways. And in this video I will attempt the repairs.
*MY TEST GEAR ETC*
Solder :- Multicore & Warton Metals 60/40, 63/37 -- Diameters - 0.25mm / 0.4mm / 0.5mm / 0.7mm
Solder Pastes :- Amtech VS-213-A-TF & NC-559-V2-TF
Bench Multimeters :- Keysight 34465A / Keithley DMM6500
H/Held Multimeters :- Keysight U1253B / U1252B / Fluke 289 / Fluke 28II
Power Supplies :- TTi QL355T / Keithley 2230G-30-1 / EA-PS5040-40A
Multi function Tester :- Fluke 1653B
Electronic Load :- ARRAY 3723A
Oscilloscope :- Rigol-DS2200
Spectrum Analyser :- Rigol-DSA805-TG
Signal Generator :- Rigol-DSG4162 & DG1012
Frequency Counter :- Racal-Dana 1998
Variac :- Carroll & Meynell 8A
Microscope :- GT Vision Research Grade GXM-XTL3TV1
Solder Station :- Pace ST100
Rework Tweezers :- Pace MT-100 MiniTweez
Hot Air :- Metcal HCT-900-21 - 320W Hot Air Station
Hot Air :- Metcal HCT2-200-21 - Hot Air Pencil
Screwdrivers :- Wera & Knipex
Pliers & Cutters :- Knipex -Various Models
Tweezers :- Lindstrom & Ideal-Tek
Scissors :- Fiskars Non Stick Micro - amzn.to/2LByYNZ
Ultrasonic bath :- GT Sonic (6 Litre)
Torch :- Olight S1A
High Temperature PCB Jig/Fixture
Switch Cleaner :- Servisol Super10
Freeze Spray :- Servisol Freeze It
*CAMERA GEAR*
Cameras :-- 2x Panasonic HC-X920
Sound Mixer :-- Sound Devices MixPre-D
Sound Recorder :-- Tascam DR-100 MKII
2x Manfrotto 244RC Variable Friction Arms - amzn.to/2qxzl4W
2x Manfrotto Super Clamps - amzn.to/2PolGpn
Video Capture Card:- Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro - amzn.to/343Ayif
*EDITING SOFTWARE*
Davinci Resolve Studio 16
iZotope RX7
Youlean Loudness Meter
Handbrake
Adobe Photoshop CC
Adobe Audition CC

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@PapasDino 7 жыл бұрын

Welcome back John, enjoy your repair work videos and always learn something new!

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Dino.. Thanks very much for the kind comments my friend :) Regards John

@WaltonPete 7 жыл бұрын

A satisfyingly precise repair - at one point, whilst you were soldering the wire links onto the PCB I found myself blowing at the screen to cool down the solder! Thanks for your efforts and the handy tip regarding flattening the wire before soldering and using dissection needles.

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Pete Allum - Very much appreciate the kind comments Pete, Thank you. Regards John

@WiKiTWoNKa 6 жыл бұрын

Pete Allum that's funny when I see people drilling into wood I either blow the saw dust or wipe the screen lol must be our OCD LOL 😂

@bibousisi5437 6 жыл бұрын

interesting points ,if anyone else trying to find out notebook repair try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System ( search on google ) ? Ive heard some interesting things about it and my neighbor got excellent success with it.

@TRXLab 7 жыл бұрын

Great repair John! Thanks for sharing. All the best my friend

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter.. Good to see you :) Cheers friend John

@ThingsWhichArentWork 7 жыл бұрын

Nice work on a very fiddly repair. Thanks for sharing John. Cheers!!

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Jim, I appreciate the comments my friend. Cheers John

@davidlegault9745 7 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you back. Great video with two thumbs up - one for each HD. Regards, Dave

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Hi David, Thank you for the comments my friend & the double thumbs :) Cheers John

@cncdavenz 7 жыл бұрын

Good to see you back. Looks like you had some good luck. Cheers Dave

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave.. Yes all too often chances of repairing HDD's are minimal.. good job it was just the pcbs :) Cheers John

@g1fsh 7 жыл бұрын

wow really nice work! great video.

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary.. Appreciate the comments. cheers John

@tothebestofmyknowledge 4 жыл бұрын

Nice! Great Job! Thanks and best regards.

@OrbiterElectronics 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍

@train4905 Жыл бұрын

Awsomw work sir,well done

@OrbiterElectronics Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen 👍

@FixDaily 4 жыл бұрын

Great video and a quick advice: If you use solder mask to secure the wires before you solder them, you can solder them easily and in fact it takes less time and the job is still well done.

@OrbiterElectronics 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@dorak2352 4 жыл бұрын

Not certain about the points made but ,if anyone else is searching for how repair computer try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some super things about it and my mate got great results with it.

@danielhoffman329 7 жыл бұрын

How did you clean the contact? I have seen some people saying use a pencil eraser but it seems to not be working for me.

@Rajusingh-sp1rg 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you truely made me hd engineer

@bruceleethewarriorswordsma5038 4 жыл бұрын

If I replaced my diode on my 3tb pcb should spin up not down my 6gb raid lead broken but it was still plugged in cold must of done it diodes for power to the pcb your good doing this with pcb cool video good upload my friend

@vinceramo1721 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the diode part number smbj12a-tr. I found two mail order sources at .38c plus 5 bucks shipping. I violated the first rule. Got a backup 1TB drive in a couple of years ago and just put the sealed static bag on the shelf. Now that I need to use it, it is deader than a mackerel. Does not spin up. So, I will take a look at the pcb and see if the diode is shorted out. I have long since forgotten which seller on Amazon pawned off a dead drive in a bag. So, I will have to take the lumps and hope it can be glossed over.To see if there was someone with a local supply of bits and pieces to fill the gap now that Radio Shack is dusty history.Just to be complete the drive is a Samsung HD103SJ P/N:A7053-C541-A1S73 And again, I forgot which Amazon seller sent this as a new drive in a sealed static bag. I put it on a shelf and forgot about it. Thanks for the tips.

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

I agree, a diode like this takes 5 seconds to replace. But not everyone knows how to do it, or has the appropriate equipment etc, so I take my time so that others can see clearly what's happening. If I'd used my Metcal hot air station that diode would have been off 1 second :) Drive would not spin up with TVS diode failed. Drives were dead originally before I got them. This diode can be checked with a simple multimeter diode test (I normally lift a leg for testing) Diode failure may have been caused by drive being removed whilst plugged in, OR due to screw damage on main PCB.

@Cyberpuppy63 4 жыл бұрын

Or poor air circulation and heat build up due to faulty design. A video card with a large heat dissipate-or can raise the internal temperature of isolated parts to well over 150 degrees Fahrenheit. My chinese built power supply melted in 2018 due to this issue.

@Cyberpuppy63 4 жыл бұрын

Physical damage due to a "hack" or in-experienced repair attempt. Nice. Great work-around on the wire re-joining.

@zx8401ztv 7 жыл бұрын

Smashing recovery ;-D Those small tracks can be a bloody pain, but im just an antex 17 watt man, and a jewlers x10 eye peice lol :-D I did spoil myself with a small reel of solder braid, ooow that made special jobs so so much easyer, instant solder vanish, loverly lol. Meths is good enough for my bodging, and conformal coating ......hmm nail varnish would do. I did do a simple repair on a ssd drive, the owner was rough with the sata/pwr connector and it stopped working, when i removed the pcb the connector just rattled around with no actual connection to the pcb (i wonder why it didnt work :-D ). Pins and pads cleanup with fresh solder, plop the socket on and heat each pin, oops solder bridge... ahh solder wick. Back together and all is happyness, but i was disgusted by the lack of socket support, just the solder only.

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Hi zx.. Good to see you :) Nothing wrong with the Antex irons.. I used one of those for ages, in fact I still have it somewhere for emergencies. It came in handy too when my Pace pcb blew an inductor.. Or rather I made my Pace pcb blow an inductor :) Yes it seems weird sometimes at the lack of thought that goes into pcb mountings.. Relying on the joints alone is not good at all especially on a device that will no doubt be moved around, & in some cases regularly like @ LAN events etc. Cheers mate John

@zx8401ztv 7 жыл бұрын

Allways nice to hear your frendly tones :-D. Pace, Eeek i just jumped back to the past when i used to repair pace satalite boxes, they allways allways blew up there switchmode supplys, horrible switchmodes :-(. Ive been watching a bloke called Louis Rossmann, a bit odd at times but he does some nifty soldering :-).

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks zx :) Is it the same Pace that made the tv boxes? If so I would hope that the stuff has improved a bit since those days, especially going by the blinkin' price they charge for the suff :o :) Yea I watch Louis too mate. He's quite entertaining really isn't' he. Cheers John

@zx8401ztv 7 жыл бұрын

Honestly i dont know, this was a loooooong time ago so they must have improved there products (if it is the same company), old pace satalite boxes blew up, every one did, usually when someome unplugged it when they went on holiday, and when they got back they plugged it in and "BANG!!" LOL. I had nightmares about them LOL :-D. A "Repair kit" was the fix (most of the time), you had to check everything in the psu, if you didnt then BANG!!, buy yet another repair kit. And to think that i was just a c.b radio repairer at the time, pace boxes made cheap c.b's look really reliable LOL :-D. Yes mr rossmann is funny, but he did used to be too arrogant for my taste, he is great now :-D

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

Ah ok.. Perhaps that Pace was a different company. I can tell you that even the Sky box psu's today are the same.. I've got about 30 of them waiting for repair.. They even do a cap repair kit for them 😕 Cheers John

@jeanniefurey4905 6 жыл бұрын

Your investigative intuition as to the scuffing up of board on the 2nd drive is, embarrassingly, point on as far as what has lead me to your site to begin with...clumsy, incorrect tool for the job use :( Any how, great video especially since I knew nothing about HDD repair and will admit to having a box full of non working drives. Who know, perhaps one or two will have a visually diagnosable Diode problem like you have shown. I'd venture that perhaps. The others, I'm still saving my pennies to rescue. Oh, and while I've no clue that it mattered in the end, it did appear to me that you did apply the boards in a switched fashion as #2 PCB went on disk one, etc. Only realized by virtue of factory inscription within grooves on black siding. Regardless, so much learned from you ..thank you, thumbs up and subscription buttons hit.

@OrbiterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын

Jeannie Furey.. Hi Jeannie.. Firstly thank you for the kind comments, they're much appreciated. Regarding the PCBs being refited to the opposite drive, you're right, however to be quite honest I cant remember what I was doing at the time, although If i remember correctly I was aware of a very faint click or suspect sound from one drive, so perhaps I was testing to see if the pcb would work on the other drive. And as these drives were identical.. as in they were from the same batch etc and used the same chipset it did work👍. I now have one of the drivess here for myself, as the guy who's drives these were told me to keep the one that I suspected of having mechanical issues, which I did after cloning his data for him, and the drive is still working as a test drive today, and used to swap over any none critical data from drive to drive. Cheers, John

@ArcAiN6 7 жыл бұрын

i always wondered who was using those conical tips :D

@OrbiterElectronics 7 жыл бұрын

+ArcAiN6 Hehee ☺️

@andresbudihardja 3 жыл бұрын

how if drive detect but not shown in disk management

@TeacherBrunoOneil 6 жыл бұрын

how did you find out the diode was hot if the diode is placed under the board when it`s screwed to the hdd shell? I`m asking because I was thinking about connecting the pcb to the PSU without the hdd shell connected to it, but then it comes to my mind that the motor( in this case the load ) wouldn`t be consuming much charge.. so for many experiments it wouldnt work... I`m still to go buy a laser thermometer so for me, finding out what`s heating is like touching the component with bare hands and sometimes it`s not advisable... ( not to say wrong)

@OrbiterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын

Bruno Ferreira.. Hi, I have a Fluke thermal camera so could see the heat signature from the diode through the pcb

@TeacherBrunoOneil 6 жыл бұрын

oh, that`s awesome. thanks for the reply.. I`m poor so I will have to stick to the laser thermometer. this camera is probably very expensive here in Brazil.. and I cant wait 4 months to have it shipped from china to brazil. anyway, I suspected you had found it through its heat signature somehow, either touching it or measuring it with an instrument of some sort.

@AQAVAR 5 жыл бұрын

i made accidental hole onto HDD PCB board, what kind of chances i got? How i know PCB got 6-7 layer so just repairing face tracks won't help, will it?

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay in responding.. If you have managed to avoid any internal layers your chances of repair are good. If you're not sure about damaged internal layers perhaps have the PCB XRay'd if possible to help you determine its condition. If any internal layers are damaged though the PCB is likely destroyed, and your best best would then be to either buy another identical PCB to see if you can make it work.. Or as a last resort data recovery will be the only option if its valuable to you. Cheers John

@octaviuscstackz9205 5 жыл бұрын

Can u tell me what it means when I turn on my power Mac g4 and the hard drive only spin if I take the ribbon off

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry but.. The system as a whole will need looking at to test properly for such a problem. Doesn't sound like a drive problem though if it powers up ok with just the 4 pin molex connector. You can check that the ribbon cable itself is ok, and that all the motherboard and hard drive ribbon cable connector pins are good and straight. As connecting the ribbon cable is stops the drive there may possibly be a short etc somewhere on the mainboard. It needs investigation though.

@mehtabmanik 5 жыл бұрын

Too much time killed to change a simple diode change. It was faulty how you detected it? What would be the symptopm related to this diode?

@bruceleethewarriorswordsma5038 4 жыл бұрын

Hi where did you get the little chips to replace dead ones need your help I need one chip for my pcb did you get them of ebay

@OrbiterElectronics 4 жыл бұрын

I can't remember if I already had the diode as I had a few drives that were the same. If not though I would have bought a suitable diode from the likes of ebay or perhaps Farnell or RS Components etc.

@anagu6200 4 жыл бұрын

Hi John...plz help me.... booting problem in my pc

4 жыл бұрын

Bom dia amigo seu Reinaldo do Brasil, ajudo pessoas a concertar seu hds e gostaria de indicar seu video, poderia por gentileza colocar legenda Obrigado

@Ed31003 6 жыл бұрын

where did you get the wire you used?

@Ed31003 6 жыл бұрын

repairing tracks from and to keyboard on laptop as tabs are missing

@tamannamoviesbkn9428 6 жыл бұрын

hi sir. my wd 3 Harddisk is not dictated. not spinning same time three Harddisk is not dictated. my 3 ded Harddisk same model WD10EZEX I do not know how it happened but three hard disks stopped working together Inside the hard disk, I have lots of imported data of weddings. wd has 3 hard disks. The three hard disks were engaged in the same computer and got damaged together. I shut down the computer well, I got up in the morning and the computer did not run then I had checked the check but nothing was known. help me plz sir i request u.

@dexter3886 3 жыл бұрын

Sir, I Accidentally Scratched the Rear PCB (Green Part) of My WD External Hard Drive When I Was Opening it. The Scratch is Very Minor And was done from a Screw Driver and There are No Connections between the Scratch. Should I Be Worried? Till Now I am Facing No Issues. I also want to share a photo of the Scratch if you want to see. Please Help.

@OrbiterElectronics 3 жыл бұрын

If there are no scratched traces & the drive is operating you will be fine 👍

@dexter3886 3 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics Sir I want to Show You A Picture I have no Knowledge of PCB's How Can I Do sir?

@dexter3886 3 жыл бұрын

Do You Have a Whstapp Group or Something I Can Join? 🙂 A Little Help from you will be very Much Appreciated

@OrbiterElectronics 3 жыл бұрын

@@dexter3886 Click my KZfaq channel name.. Then go along to 'ABOUT'. At the bottom of that page you can send me a picture in an email where it says 'business enquiry'.

@dexter3886 3 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics Sir You Haven't Mentioned any email Adress there😢 Can I Text you on Instagram?

@pythondeveloper465 6 жыл бұрын

i m same do it, i want ask question to you What liquids are you pouring on pcb or How can you are use liquids on pcb.

@OrbiterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын

Richard Dawkins.. Hi. The liquids I use when repairing PCBs is flux, this helps clean the joints and helps the solder to flow. I also use IPA (isopropyl alcohol) to clean the repair when finished. If the repaired joint is to be sealed and protected its always a good idea to coat it when finished with conformal coating. Hope this helps Cheers John

@pythondeveloper465 6 жыл бұрын

How can i find this liquid? Amazon and Aliexpress and bangood.com Please give me link? and also my pcb problem this picture imgur.com/a/BR4m8

@pythondeveloper465 6 жыл бұрын

3 trace is soldering.. but trace on plastic area :(((

@OrbiterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын

The trace damage is easy enough to fix if you have a microscope and appropriate tools. Is that a solder bridge you have on the SATA pins?

@pythondeveloper465 6 жыл бұрын

sata pins connect to sata cable pins sata port was broken but soldering sata cable to sata pins.. (i m php developer not electronics but i like electronic repair)

@salmfaw7346 5 жыл бұрын

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@danieledomenicali Жыл бұрын

Great video! I have a fried Seagate PCB but I do not know which fuse/protector is damaged (where to buy the new one). Could you please help if I post the photo of my PCB? (100710248 Rev C Seagate)? Thanks a lot. Danny

@OrbiterElectronics Жыл бұрын

Hello Danny.. I wouldn't like to recommend you attempt to fix your own PCB as it could be literally anything that has failed. And SMD soldering is not easy if you've not done it before. Only with proper circuit/component testing might you get more of an idea of the failure point. Saying that I have posted a link here to what was shown to be the same numbered board, and circled a couple of diodes that would be worth checking. Caps in that area could also be tested. I can't see any part numbers on these diodes so you'd have to check for part numbers on your components for that. Then head over to the likes of Mouser.com or Farnell.com for spares (You may even find them on Ebay although quality can't be guaranteed there.) www.mediafire.com/view/6wz5vt5pmyiqjxl/Seagate_100710248_Rev_C.jpg/file

@danieledomenicali Жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics Thanks a lot! I actually bought a replacement PCB for the same model. I'll try simply replace it, then, if not succesful, I'll try and change the chip. I was wondering if I could just try and repair mine assuming it was a fried fuse like in your video.... but as you say, not sure!

@OrbiterElectronics Жыл бұрын

Just make sure that your spare pcb is exactly the same, and has the same firmware. Otherwise it'll likely not work and could cause further issues.

@Im-mortal 3 жыл бұрын

Will all data will be deleted after changing pcb?

@OrbiterElectronics 3 жыл бұрын

If the new pcb is different or has different firmware, then the drive will not be accessible at all. Data will likely still be present. To avoid loosing data or to aid in recovery you must have a PCB that is exactly the same model, and it MUST have EXACTLY the same firmware version. If your data is important please have the drive repaired/recovered professionally.

@Im-mortal 3 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics thanks

@andisadler2897 5 жыл бұрын

John do you fix for the public

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Andi, No I'm sorry, I don't accept any external jobs at present i'm afraid. Electronics is just a hobby I do when I can. Regards John

@andisadler2897 5 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics Its a shame bud. My fault is right up your street. Maybe you could advise then? My hard drive just stopped being recognised by pc, it still spins up but clicks a few times. I am certain its an electronic problem so ive bought a duplicate pcb board with exact numbers on them. I know i will have to change bios/ram chip over between drives. Am i doing it correctly? Then if still doesnt work il look into recovery and part donorship etc.

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

@@andisadler2897 HI Andi.. I'm not a specialist in HDD repair by any means. Damaged track and chip replacements yes.. but not the rest of it. IMO.. If the data on the drive is worth a lot to you, then a data recovery company is your best bet to get it back. If on the other had you just want to try & get the drive working again.. Then.. Before you do anything, if you haven't already.. Check online for your model of drive and the exact problem your having just to see if anyone else has successfully sorted the issue out. Then try the drive in another system with a different data cable just to rule out anything else. It sometimes works. If all else fails... You can try swapping the PCB over. Especially as you have another PCB with the exact same details, it's worth a go. However a PCB swap only works in a small percentage of cases, as the controller and firmware must be the same. If you can do SMD rework then yes swapping the BIOS IC over may work also. But in the end only a hard drive recovery firm would have all the tools, spares, donor parts as well as the likes of MRT Data recovery software etc It might be worth taking a look at this channel for some better pointers kzfaq.infovideos Best of luck with it mate John

@rahulkundu4033 5 жыл бұрын

Spin not work please solve my problem

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

If the drive does not even spin up check that you first have the 12v and 5v at it's Molex connector. Yellow +12v , Red +5V, Black Ground. If voltages are all present, drive may have either failed mechanically or PCB component has failed. Perhaps check diode as in this video. If there is important info on the drive seek the help of a recovery company. Warning..They are expensive.

@roybrown4944 4 жыл бұрын

Just like that

@gopisankarrathour9279 5 жыл бұрын

Bro What is input voltage of HDD

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

Normally the input voltages are 12v, 5v and ground. The motor is normally +/- 12v and the rest operates on 5v. For specific drive details though please visit the manufacturers website.

@gopisankarrathour9279 5 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics I also have diode burnout problem. May I ask you for help please

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

Do you know why or what caused the diode to pop?

@gopisankarrathour9279 5 жыл бұрын

@@OrbiterElectronics It caused by "short" Diode was connected to pin no.6 and 7

@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын

@@gopisankarrathour9279 Ok.. You hopefully will just be able to replace the protection diode then, assuming nothing after the diode has been damaged. If you have some scrap hard drives/pcbs etc, see if there is a compatible diode on one.. Remember the diodes are polarity sensetive so they have to be fitted the correct way around.

@mohandmohand2047 4 жыл бұрын

Bro can fix traces in motherboard for xbox360...

@petakzametak141 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but ,if anyone else needs to find out about repair guides try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got amazing success with it.

@tamannamoviesbkn9428 6 жыл бұрын

@OrbiterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын

Unless there's been some sort of power surge it's unlikely that the drives have all failed at the same time. I would firstly be checking the power supply. Check that you have 12v and 5v outputs from your power supply to the hard drives.