Clarity on new gen kit is so important. Especially when there are unscrupulous operators in the market. Thanks for the heads up

If there’s one constant in this space, it’s ‘Noctua is awesome.’

I am not even kidding, i just bought all my new parts for my next-gen build INCLUDING the Scythe Fuma 2, and when I saw you initially show the email from scythe, my heart dropped. Thank you so much for clearing everything up and showing that it is actually compatible!

This is actually very helpful and im glad I found this. So what AMD said about am4 cooler compatability was technically true. it just boils down to if Cooler manufacturers required you to replace your Backplate. Building a new PC soon with AM5 so this definitely made me a bit more aware of what I'm doing.

Jayztwocents didn't help with his clickbaity videos so thank you HWC

Thank you Mike for explaining this issue so clearly. Great stuff (as always)

That answer from Scythe support was strange. I actually wrote to Scythe EU a week ago and got this reply: "The mounting system for AM4 and AM5 is identical. So the Fuma 2 is already completely compatible to AM5. "

Thanks a lot Mike, just what I was waiting for. Hopefully you'll also find the time to actually check which line of coolers will be enough to keep the 90°c operating temperature without throttling.

Please got CAN WE PLEASE get one set of mounting methodologies for consumer platforms, one mounting pattern, for ALL consumer platforms. This is mental. There is no need for this, mounting pressure is mounting pressure...

The main takeaway for me from all of this is: Noctua might be slightly more expensive, but they DO NOT fuck you over. I've had an NH-D14 since *2013* for my FX-8350, and they've since then sent me an Intel Xtreme mounting kit, an AM4 mountain kit, and even now an AM5 mounting kit. All free of charge. That in of itself is worth the extra $10-15 to me.

The Noctua NH-U12A mounts fine on the new AMD cpus - installed it this morning on a 7700x

Great video. I believe my techn waterblock should work with am5. It comes with a backplate but the screw threads are identical to the am4/5 backplate and it threaded in no problem. P.S. if you ever wanna truly test mounting pressure, buy some pressure paper, it works incredibly well. I used it when doing my 4690k direct die mounting.

As a Fuma 2 user that was interested in carrying it across to AM5 when I move to it, thank you.

I was worried for a moment there. I bought a fuma 2 rev b a while back because availability of this product in my country is atrocious I bought it before the am5 release. Good to hear that it can be mounted and doing a good job cooling the new chip.

Scythe US put out an article on their website that most of their current coolers (including both versions of the Fuma 2) are compatible with AM5. I used to work for a company with a similar strategy: We were supposed to deny any news until it was official because the decisions in the management were held back from the support team right until the day the official statement went public. So we sent e-mails to customers that something doesn't work at 8:59 AM, the news went live at 9:00 AM, and the support team was officially informed many hours or days later so we had to check the public news in the meantime. So I would never blame the support team of a company.

Great video, very clear. I have a Fuma 2 and I'm very happy with it, so sad that Scythe wrongly say that it's not AM5 compatible...

Good to know that my Fuma 2 will still work with AM5 if i ever have the need to upgrade. Amazing cooler, specially if you want something quiet.

Congrats to AMD, same mounting clips since socket 754! We should try testing some vintage 2004-2006 coolers, there were some wild ones :)

The thermalright AXP90 is actually compatible with the AM5 mobos with some nuances. The screws are actually small enough to pass through the screw holes of AM5's backplate if you are careful and patient enough. The cooler's backplate then will be able to sit on the existing backplate and then you fasten it up. Works pretty good at least on the B650I.

Thank you Hardware Canucks for clearing up the confusion regarding AM5 cooler compatibility!

godamn, this need to be "elevated" out there, great video as usual!

Scythe put out a news post on the US website on the 29th saying that Fuma 2 and 2 rev b are compatible. My guess is that the reps that work in support simply do not know anything about computers and gave the wrong answers.

Great explanation, very useful. I'm curious what thermals you are seeing with the air cooler?

Noctua always has your back for situations like this!

Is the deepcool ak620 compatible

I just bought an Id cooler it says it’s am4 and am5 compatible but the back plate don’t fit in the original spot the original back plate fix please any idea 😢

Appreciate the breakdown. Just upgraded from AM4 and was a little concerned with the compatibility on AM5. Great video!

Thanks for the explanation. I was assembling an AM4 cooler onto an AM5 socket right now, and your video has been crucial :)

Thank you for excellent sound quality of your videos. This is the only channel that I can listen to at my car without speakers popping and buzzing.

Super helpful! My 7950X is here, get my X670E Asus ProArt in a few days, and my Noctua will work! The Fractal Torrent case is not kind to my AIO stable, so air coolers are a must, and I am super stoked to migrate off my "ANCIENT" 12900K! 🙂

This doesn't take AIOs into consideration, where there's even more confusion. Corsair have said that all their AM4 AIOs are compatible with the AM5 socket. NZXT on the other hand have said that while their X and Z AIO AM4 brackets fit on an AM5 socket, there are height differences that may result in gaps between the AIO and the CPU. As a result of this, they're supplying AM5-specific brackets to anyone that has an X|Z AIO who also purchased an AM5 motherboard. This isn't some Scythe scam as NZXT are burdening the expense and giving the AM5 brackets out for free. Their reasoning must be legitimate, otherwise, why go through the effort and cost. So, just because an AM4 cooler may fit on the AM5 socket, doesn't mean that the fit will be precise.

I was told by TT Customer Service for their TH360 ARGB AIO, "You would need to find a way to get that backplate off." since their site didn't have the the hardware needed for AM5 socket... I don't think they've realised that its not supposed to come off.

I got the Deepcool LS720 AIO in White and worked right out of the Box with the AM5 mounting kit that it came with, and it keeps my Ryzen 9 7950X under 60c, its a amazing AIO that Deepcool made with the LS series and affordable.

I'm so happy to know my H150i cap can support AM5 and is so easy to install.

I have the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black. It is good to know that I can use it in the future when I upgrade to AM5. I plan not to switch before Ryzen 8000 though. Maybe its then to weak for the cpu but time will tell.

8 of 9 of my AM4/AM5 are now on Noctua. Whenever an excellent deal came up local I would pick it up. $40 brand new D15’s. $30 U14S. U9S and D9L for $20. I only bought my first one U14S new for $63.75 in 2019. After that I just kept an eye out for them. There are other brands that work but the customer service sending me parts for free and well engineered mounting has sold me. 4x D15 2x U14S U9S D9L Thermalright Silver Soul 110 (D9L)

I have a Fuma 2 (OG) and saw that same post about AM5 not being compatible. Did a search to see if that was BS or not and thank you for putting my worries to bed. You're a hero!

Glad you made this video and I found it. I'm re-using the Fuma 2.

me watching this although I don't plan to upgrade from 5800X3D for a good decade, hmm yes, brilliant.

lol I was worried about my cooler not being compatible and was starting to take apart my pc while watching this video, then you mentioned the Fuma 2, which is the exact cooler I've got.

How come we do not press intel and amd to have the same cooler installation mechanisms so all coolers will always fit on all motherboards and cpu's without adapters?

When i got a new cooler (Mugen 5 black revC), i made sure it used the default AMD backplate for this reason specifically

Hyper 212 Evo (1st gen) on AM5 is possible I have managed to install my 10-year-old Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler on my new AM5 motherboard. I already had the old AM4 X-shaped movable bracket (RR-AM4B-H212-S1) and I tried to install the cooler with that initially, but I realized that the screw slots on the motherboard were too low to hold the cooler under the bracket. All the comments on the internet said that it’s not possible to install an old cooler on a new AM5 board, but I still wanted to try my luck. So, I bought the AMD AM5 Mounting Kit (603007170-GP) from a local shop (it might be the last one in stock in my whole country), which is basically just 4 screws that lift the original screw slots about 1 cm on the motherboard. It cost no more than 2 USD. I installed the 4 screws first and then the cooler with the X-bracket after a little bit of trial and error. It finally fastened enough without any movement at all. I tried it with some games and stress tests, and the CPU (7500F) temperatures didn’t exceed 77 degrees Celsius..

Noctua posted on their site: "Noctua confirms AM5 heatsink compatibility and announces free-of-charge upgrades for low-profile coolers and older heatsink models"

3:30 Yes, Jayztwocents said that Noctua coolers aren't compatible which is in stark contradiction to what Noctua themselves stated on their website. Basically, if your Noctua cooler was shipped with the AM4 mounting kit, you're good. If not, you'll need to contact Noctua so they can send you a mounting kit. The only exception being the L9 series coolers which REQUIRE the AM5 mounting kit

Is there any list cooler with/without changing backplate?

hey, good video but some additional notes, note every cooler without backplate is compatible, if cooler uses long mount clips, let’s call them “vertical” - it’s ok, but if cooler uses short “horizontal” mount clips it wont fit, because am5 socket is a bit shorter on horizontal mounting place. p.s. sorry if ny english is bad, not my main lang. thanks have a good day everyone

👀Can't wait to see them tested on the 7600x or 7700x. Good video and to the point man.

When it comes to PC Coolers, Mike is The Man. This will only become MORE important moving forward as these new CPUs are going to be...putting out a lot of heat. Great job...

Thank you, was worried if my FUMA 2 will not compatible with my upgrades.

Came from Reddit to say this was a great video, thanks for explaining it so clearly. AMD made the bad decision of making IHS thicc in order to make AM4 coolers compatible with AM5 in theory, but in practice the compatibility is very limited. I'd rather keep my Deepcool Gammax 400 V2, which uses a custom blackplate, and upgrade to a Ryzen 5000 instead of spending a lot of money on AM5 platform and a new cooler.

Awesome video Mike, right to the point and you didn't miss anything :) PS I see something nice in the left corner ;)

Wahh this vid is very helpfull for me and your explaination is just on point and very clear. many thanks Mike!

I have a 2 year old Scythe FUMA Rev.B SCFM-1100 & everything worked perfectly fine except for the 4 screws that go on to the backplate. They are a little bit too short. Scythe just needs to mail out longer screws.

Good to know, I had a L9a-AM4 from a SFFPC build I wanted to use in an AM5 build. I couldn't find my proof of purchase, but the conversion kit was like $8 on Amazon. Much better than $50.

I wish someone would test AM4 compatible Threadripper coolers, I'm really curious how they perform on AM5...

Dude this video was awesome because I couldn’t get a straight answer for Fuma 2 support

Scythe Mugen 5 rev. B is compatible.

i got told the blackridge should be duable with the thermal grizzly am5 backplate? can you confim that? or test it?

Hello, is the amd wraith stealth cooler i got from the am4 platform work into the am5 platform?

I'm glad I kept my NH U14S around just for this

does the am4 cooolers perform just as good on am5? Cuz the chips look like thy have different proportions, doesnt that influence the area that connects to the heatsinks and therefore the cooling performance? Also big shout out to noctua for always providing free new mounting-kits!!!

The Deepcool Assassin III is also compatible with AM5, no special adapters needed. You just flip the four included threaded metal/plastic pieces over, so that the black, plastic part faces the motherboard, and you're good to go.

Noctua NH-L9x65 is low profile cooler. This one is using same bracket for AM4 and Intel LGA like U12 Redux with plastic spacers and screws to seize the metal frame...

Thank you for clearing this up.

Isnt the orientation on the last cooler wrong? Should be pointing towards the back??

I really hate that cooler master is charging 5€ for their adapters but charging $20 on Amazon for the same adapters stateside. I just bought a Peerless Assasin 210 for $30. So pissed since the cooler master was such a good cooler.

You saved me $300. Thank you.

Subscribing you brother.. first time here and I liked your video so much. even though I m not going to build am5 computer right now but the way you explain things (not just talk) is what I really liked. Keep doing it. Thanks 🙏

almost bought a new. my arctic freezer duo fits. thank you!

great video. question is the am5 retention bracket an issue like intel's Z690 retention bracket?

Glad to see Fuma 2 is still compatible.

My Noctua seems to be doing just fine with the 7950x.

running a custom water loop block on my 7900x had to thred the bolts throug the back plate but it works

keep up great work, easy to understand your videos the way you explain:) best !

Thank god man.... been trying to find a bracket that would work for the 212 black on am5 for weeks! you saved me a lot of trouble.

Thank you for the clarification

Does the am4 bracket have the same hole for the screw for am5 bracket?

Thank you for being very explicit about the retainer clips! I was searching all around for info about whether those brackets retainer clips were the same between AM4 and AM5 (needed to replace some I accidentally sold with the old MoBo)! Thanks again! Update: For anyone in my situation, needing to replace the cpu bracket clips above and below the cpu socket. I have an x670e and now can confirm from money wasted, that not all brackets are *not exactly* the same for us. The spacing between the screws on the frame don’t allow for the additional support built into a lot of stock AM4 CPU brackets clips. Not the part on the AIO, the part your AIO attaches to. I accidentally gave mine to a young person learning to build computers who needed spare parts and ordered on made for AM4 and while it fits in one direction, it doesn’t in the other and it’s the wrong way 😢. A lot of AM4 brackets seem to have a little flair of support. The AM5 bracket that came with my MoBo was slimmer and so now I’m trying to see if that kid still has my part because I can’t seem to find any online without it! This also makes me wonder if the two types of clip are actually different heights? Even if by millimeters I wonder if that would screw up your CPU? I’m replacing mine because despite everything else being ok, when I reused my Kraken on the AM5 CPU it died in two weeks. Coincidence?

Thank you for this info,it was very helpful with my upgrade to AM5 platform. Thanx again.

Just when I thought I'd skip the 7000 series and keep my 5000 series because of the not so great of performance upgrade (in the departments where I am looking into). Now this just made me seal my decision. I don't plan on replacing my Arctic 280 Freezer for just 20% upgrade and pay 3x what I can charge for the old combo.

Fuma 2 dont fit in my case. I put this 4 black plastic distances metal thing and screws from mobo are too short.

No plans to go AM5 but usefull to know 🙌🏻

Wait so can I use my existing am4 x73 bracket on am5?

I think after all this we know Scythe customer support lost points with Mike. Lol

Better thermal transfer of ihs > semi compatibility with older coolers

thank you for the video, you answered my question about Thermalright peerless assassin 120 is compatible with amd sokers am5 with my msi mag b650 tomahok wifi

I am considering Arctic Freezer 34 e-Sports Duo for my Ryzen 5 5500 sometime early next year. But since I am a HUGE fan of future proofness , and while highly unlikely that I shall upgrade to AM5 and especialy anytime soon , I would still love to have the option of 1 for 2 at similar budget price . Default cooler of 5500 is fine tempswise for now , but it is annoyingly loud more than sonetimes.

Late to the party but the Thermal Right AXP90-x47 and 53 work on AM5 boards,

This whole generational upgrade seems to be a hassle

Does anyone know if SE-224-XT is compatible with AM5?

Hello. how to install a cooler zalman cnps14x on am5 socket? Which adapter should I buy?? Thanks for the answer.

Great thanks..

Hello, congratulations for your very useful video. Just one question: what material is the mat you used for assembly made of? I would like to buy one like yours, can you suggest the model and where to buy it online? thank you so much.

Is the thermalright peerless assassin 120 compatible? I’ve heard a lot of conflicting answers

I still use my ancient AM2+ cooler on my AM4 B450 pro Motherboard and it works, just need a bit modification of the cradle on the mainboard that needs to raised a bit

Is the ak400 compatible then?

Thanks! :) After watching this I can confirm that the ROG RYUJIN II AIO series (240 & 360) are 100% compatible with AM5.

Very concise and well demonstrated. A very helpful video thanks 🙂

Thanks Mike for your efforts on getting this video out asap!!! Love your work keep it up!!!