Harley Benton ST-20 HSS vs Squier Bullet Strat HSS. Budget guitar review comparison

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The Novice Noise Maker

The Novice Noise Maker

3 жыл бұрын

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@chickenrnli
@chickenrnli 3 жыл бұрын
really enjoying your videos mate! I'm a beginner too, picked it back up again lateley since i left school 10 years ago.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s nice if you to say so, thank you Ben. I hope you’re enjoying getting back into too 👍🏻
@Astronauticus
@Astronauticus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This one compare was interesting for me!
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous! Really glad it helped, thank you for watching and commenting 👍🏻
@lukaskordik3671
@lukaskordik3671 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate input from someone who is not 200 skill levels above me, but just about 50 :) ... I use both Squier and ST20, both plays fine, but in the tone characteristic, they are very different. Thanks for confirming this for me :)
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for stopping by watching and commenting 👍🏻👍🏻 You’re right they really are quite different. Love my Squier and sold the ST20 in the end
@Anthemika
@Anthemika Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏👍🏻
@thegaindane
@thegaindane 3 жыл бұрын
You seem more excited about your Squier in this comparison video, Rich 😉 I think the pickups in Harley Benton sounds better with high gain because it's brighter. And the pickups in the Squier sounds better on the clean channel.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Ah ok that’s different view point on it 👍🏻 . I really like this Squier. I had a fender lone star strat, an HH strat and standard fender too. I’ve also had lots of Squier standards, affinities and bullets and this one is in my top 3 for sure!
@horststraske7822
@horststraske7822 3 жыл бұрын
I have the impression that there is a hype at the moment in the case of Harley Benton guitars. Especially guys from the UK buy Harley Bentons. :-) I have one, the HB 35 semi acoustic. The negative thing was the high action of the strings. Is this the right English expression? The positive thing is that this guitar has teached me to make some adjustments on my guitar.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@horststraske7822 the last couple of years the UK has gone nuts for HBs! I wonder don’t will calm down that Brexit has put the cost up 25%.... Yes string action is the right expression, your English is excellent. I’ve had 15 HBs and they’ve been inconsistent in terms of quality and set up. I have also learned some set-up basics now
@dazai_osm
@dazai_osm Жыл бұрын
Thanks now I know which one im going to buy I love the harley benton one omg
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker Жыл бұрын
Hey Dazai, I’m glad it was useful. Thanks for tuning in, really appreciate it. Lot of other reviews on my playlist of Harley Benton’s and other affordable guitars 🎸
@culstrate3460
@culstrate3460 Жыл бұрын
Man that HB is an absolute beauty
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker Жыл бұрын
And cheap too!!!
@mike140460
@mike140460 3 жыл бұрын
Rich love the video, found via your ebay ad for the L-500 (SC 550) Vintage Series Les Paul. Love the buying a guitar when things are bad idea, a man after my own heart. I've bought five since September (which only brings my total to seven to be fair) but my kids think I'm mad, I'll show them this and tell them I'll go for the 71 unless they leave me alone! My first Harley Benton is currently on its way from Germany, a black RB-600BK Classic Series which I love the look of. Question is now do I bid on your Les Paul? I have a Cherry Sunburst Epiphone LP but a white one would look good in the collection. I'll have a think.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh 😆. I say go for it on the 71 guitars! 5 since September is good, think I’ve only had 4 since then. I’m going to do a whistle stop video about them all soon. I really white guitars and especially with gold hardware. I’ve just bought a CV tele in vintage blonde which will get gold hardware at some point. The RB is a nice looking guitar, you’ll have to let me know what you think once you’ve got it. If you decide to bid on my HB, good luck
@simonnash5502
@simonnash5502 Жыл бұрын
I’d go squire and change the tuners . Great video, very honest .
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker Жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon and I agree too 👍🏻 I’ve posted lots of other videos like this if that’s your thing 😊. Appreciate you tuning in, thank you. Rich
@JohanJoosLaur
@JohanJoosLaur 2 жыл бұрын
You should have changed the title for "How To Relic Guitars the Rich Way" ahaha ! Definitely prefered the Bullet in this one (you shouldn't have sold this one aha !!), and not only because that creamy colour is just so beautiful aha ! But as you said at the end, guess you can't go wrong with either of these anyway. What I think I can hear from this vid is that the HB sounds a bit more modern actually ? Such a lovely vid again, plus the Mayer part was beautiful !
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
Too kind! Thank you. You’re right, the Squier does sound more vintage and …. I may have an opportunity to buy that model/year/colour again soon….. Relic lol 😂. So annoyed it scratched like that! I would love to hear you cover Slow Dancing in a Burning Room 🙏
@chrisuoa
@chrisuoa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I'm about to buy the Squier as my first electric guitar. is this the Arctic White color? Beacuse it's quite different from the images at the web stores
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! They don’t make this colour anymore but I’ve had artic white before and it’s nice 👍🏻 Thank you for watching and the nice comment
@jtyodaplays1639
@jtyodaplays1639 3 жыл бұрын
I just got one aswell im picking it up in a few days
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtyodaplays1639 awesome, you’ll enjoy it. Good choice . Thank you for watching
@chrisuoa
@chrisuoa 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtyodaplays1639 Lucky U. I am about to buy it within next few days. I should decide the amp now. I'm 45 and will be my first e-guitar. A childhood dream will come true -:)
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 2 жыл бұрын
The colour on the Squier is killer! I like the Hb headstock but at least the Squier doesn't have the heavier 70's headstock. Both have better models for a bit more coin. Bullit is the better deal, the Hb painted/mat finish is cheap looking and is Cheap quality. Just catching up on your vids Rich, recently sub'd to your channel. Cheers mate!
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, thank you for watching! That Squier had a lovely genuinely aged colour to it. Played really well too. It is still one the favourites I’ve owned. You’re right about the HB, very cheap looking and feeling in comparison
@andriypodolskyy
@andriypodolskyy 3 жыл бұрын
I have knocked my HB ST20 Black many times, and no had problem. Probably it is a paint of Squier left on Harley Benton body?
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andriy, sadly not the case. It is a chip in the paint on the HB 😞 Thank you for watching and the comments 👍🏻
@ZAKatack96
@ZAKatack96 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i'm interested in buying the HB matte black in the video. Does the paint on body and fretboard last? How is the guitar overall? thankss
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZAKatack96 I haven't kept it long enough to say although I had a Fender Strat in matte black and after a fair of playing the matte becomes 'shiny' in areas wear you lean your arm. It also shows up finger marks but wipes clean. I had this same finger board on another HB and it gets dirty and started to go off colour but was fine after I cleaned it and lemon oil applied. Overall for the money its a good guitar. I have had 15 Harley Benton's and a lot of entry level Squier so have a good idea about budget guitars. A second hand Squier Affinity would be better for comparable money. My particular Bullet is very good (a 2011 model) but the current Bullets aren't bad either. One thing to say about the HB though is the neck radius is much flatter than a typical strat at 350mm vs. 238mm
@ZAKatack96
@ZAKatack96 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker Thanks so much for the infos! :)
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZAKatack96 you’re welcome
@mp7161
@mp7161 6 ай бұрын
Why are the guitars distorting even on clear? I guess that the volume on amp is too high
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 6 ай бұрын
Yes that’ll be it 👍🏻
@adrianmalchev4359
@adrianmalchev4359 2 жыл бұрын
i am in bid dilema, what should i buy. harley or bullet. iv nevre touched guitar before, so its going to be my first guitar. sorry for my English
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian, Go for the Bullet. The neck makes it a bit easier to play and the quality control is generally better too. If you want to sell it at some point it will generally sell easier and probably for a bit more money too. Hope this helps and thanks for watching . Rich
@ZAKatack96
@ZAKatack96 3 жыл бұрын
I think you can easily complain and be refound by Thomann for the paint issue. Let us know :)
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gigi, for the cost of the guitar and the hassle to return if from the UK I decided to sell it instead. Thank you for the comment and suggestion though, much appreciated. Thanks for watching
@utsavdhawan6530
@utsavdhawan6530 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir. I'm looking for a good beginner guitar and I'm confused between ibanez grx40 and squier bullet strat hss. I'm interested in rock, funk, metal and blues. Please help me out here. Your reply would make my day!!!
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
The Ibanez has a much flatter fretboard so is better for playing faster. The Squier is more versatile with its pickups though. I’d get the Squier Thank you for watching and commenting
@utsavdhawan6530
@utsavdhawan6530 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker are there amy tonal differences as the ibanez is made with poplar and squier with basswood.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@utsavdhawan6530 the pickups and amp setting are the biggest difference so I wouldn’t get bogged down with the tone wood topic if I were you. On expensive guitars and depending upon n what you want then maybe but for now I wouldn’t worry at all The most important thing is which one you like the look of so you’ll want to pick it up and play it all the time!
@justinrayguitars6024
@justinrayguitars6024 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one Harley Benton several yrs ago. Cheapest feeling guitar that I have ever owned.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
I think they’ve come on a lot in the past couple of years but they’re entry level guitars certainly feel that way. I think you’ve got to spend £150+ on an HB to get a half decent feeling axe. Unfortunately with the VAT and shipping due to brexit there are a other options too. I won’t be buying another one Thank you for watching and the comments, much appreciated
@adrian_V99
@adrian_V99 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the colonies, Richard. Squier Bullet looks great and a full 1.65 " at 1st fret, unlike the more expensive Squier Affinity which is 1.62". Not to mention far better fretboard on the Bullet. The Harley is too flat a fretboard IMO to qualify it's a s standard Strat. 9.5 " on The Bullet, 13.75 " on the Harley- shredder territory, not classic rock. Specs differ to avoid lawsuits.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend and thank you for watching and commenting. I completely agree about the fret board radius, not a fan at all. This particular Bullet is a real gem and is better than the current Bullets by a long way. The HB is ok for what it is but the Squier wins hands down. Good point in the Affinity too, I’ve had a couple of them and Standard too.
@kh3rb
@kh3rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker what do you mean by better than current bullets? Is this better than the normal SSS type or are they the same (minus pick-ups)?
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@kh3rb hi, better as in the rosewood fingerboard is far nicer looking and feeling than it Indian Laurel, the finish on the rear of the neck is better and the pickups are fuller sounding. The knobs and switch also feel firmer/better and less flimsy
@kh3rb
@kh3rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker thanks! Is there a way to know if it's a good squier or you just have to try it irl?
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@kh3rb that’s a tricky one! This is a 2011 model. Quality control can be suspect so it’s ideal if you can get to try one. That said I’ve had 6 Squier bullet strats from 2018-2020 and overall they’re still good value
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 Жыл бұрын
Saved me $87
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker Жыл бұрын
👌🏻😊
@longer7681
@longer7681 2 жыл бұрын
So what is better?
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
I would say the bullet . I have had several of them too, great guitars especially for the money. Thank you for watching and commenting, much appreciated
@longer7681
@longer7681 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker Np, thx for info
@romandokshin1347
@romandokshin1347 2 жыл бұрын
Сравнивать имеет смысл в одной ценовой категории. Например, ST-62 и bullet.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Roman I’m really sorry but I can understand only English. Out of these two though I would say the bullet is the better choice
@romandokshin1347
@romandokshin1347 2 жыл бұрын
​@@thenovicenoisemaker - hi! I think it makes sense to compare in the same price range. For example HB ST-62 and SQUIER BULLET. :) This is my subjective opinion.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@romandokshin1347 yes that’s a fair point. I paid about £70 for the bullet second hand but you’re right, new they’re £115 now which is about the same as the ST-62. I’ve had several newer bullets and I’ve had a few ST-62’s and are they better than the bullet, hmmmm that’s a tricky one?? Not much between them but the ST-62 probably does edge it.
@italianbaboon9970
@italianbaboon9970 3 жыл бұрын
bottom line want a strat ? buy a fender !
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Seb, not everyone can afford one I guess. This particular Squier, aside from the tuners is every bit as playable as the Mexican standard I had. I appreciate not all Squiers are built equally though. Thank you for watching and commenting, much appreciated 👍🏻
@SuperMozzman
@SuperMozzman 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I've had my St-20 HSS sunburst for 2 years now, it was a bit rough but for £70 at the time I had little to complain about. One advantage of the thicker body was that I upgraded the tremolo to a wilkinson style with a thicker block and unlike the squier it won't poke out of the back. I removed the string tree from the D/G strings because it didn't need it. Interesting that you say the HB has jumbo frets, mine certainly aren't.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMozzman thank you for watching and commenting. I have an older HB L500 and that is quite different to the newer SC450 and 550s; looks like some design changes over time. This one certainly has bigger frets than any of my medium jumbo guitars. Good point about the body thickness. I’ve got the squier hard tailed and the sustain is surprisingly good. One interesting thing for me was that I bought an HB HSS in red with maple finger board a while back and it was terrible. This new one is way better in every aspect
@SuperMozzman
@SuperMozzman 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenovicenoisemaker Good to see they've improved it , I'd sure have loved jumbo frets as that is the one thing I'd still change but can't justify the cost right now. The other thing worth noting is that the HB has 22 frets, so you can bend up to a high E if the solo calls for it. Good review and nice to hear your thoughts.
@thenovicenoisemaker
@thenovicenoisemaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMozzman thanks again, much appreciated. I’m a relative beginner and just doing this for amusement so it’s nice to know that the review is actually relevant. There are some other HB reviews I’ve done too if you’re interested and the L500 will be going up at the weekend
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