What do y’all think of this “Joker 2” fan theory about Lady Gaga’s Harley Quinn? #jokerfolieadeux #joker2 #harleyquinn #fantheories #superheroes #arthurfleck #joker
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@mosesfigueroafulАй бұрын
It's not in his head. In the first Joker movie, the girl with her daughter was all in his head. In this movie Arthur is asked " What has changed ?" He says " What has changed is he is not alone anymore. That's what we should be talking about " So he really is with Harley Quinn. It's not in his head.
@brownthegamer2983Ай бұрын
Lmao that’s next level physco she can still be in he’s head indeed
@siralpheyАй бұрын
You actually did not disprove that their relationship and the fact that he's not alone anymore, ain't in his head. Like, homie read yourself again.😂
@callmecrow6086Ай бұрын
Thank God for both of you! I was coming here to post the same thing. Stay safe lil homies.
@PartyClown-yp4ijАй бұрын
@@brownthegamer2983 have you psychopaths ever heard of day dreams literally everything happened in the first film besides the day dreams.
@marcoadan1Ай бұрын
Correction, the lady and daughter in the first one were real. Their relationship was in his head.
@CATDHDАй бұрын
Not a fan of "this is all in his mind" stuff. Kinda belittles the weight of events. Thats why the director of American Psycho claims that Bateman really killed people.
@speeeee35Ай бұрын
I’d imagine like the first movie… And like American psycho… That if they do something like this, they’ll keep with the theme of where you’re not supposed to be sure if it’s real or not. Which is obviously a play on the fact that the person having the hallucinations doesn’t know if they’re real or not.
@SirS2pendousАй бұрын
@@speeeee35also, they may shock us by revealing what’s real by the end. Then again, it would be genius to keep us guessing. Similar to how they ended Inception.
@jonesco3902Ай бұрын
I agree
@MonsieurDrobot21 күн бұрын
@@speeeee35bingo
@theblueexorcist87312 ай бұрын
They will definitely be singing the entire movie lol
@zacchcanavan5390Ай бұрын
I hope not
@grum4362Ай бұрын
@@zacchcanavan5390considering there's scenes of them literally talking in the trailer I don't think you need to worry
@SkibbityBeeBopАй бұрын
Can I just ask why you and so many other people seem to think that? I keep seeing people comment similar things about this movie and maybe I’m just completely missing something or maybe y’all know something I don’t, but I haven’t seen anything that would, in any way, suggest that it’s going to be a musical. (Thankfully, because turning this into a musical sounds like an awful idea lol) So, I figured I’d might as well take the opportunity and just ask since according to your comment,you clearly seem to feel the same way as the rest of those comments I’ve seen saying that they think it’s going to be a musical. Is it just because Lady Gaga is in it or something ? I seriously just don’t get it lol 🧐🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@zacchcanavan5390Ай бұрын
@@SkibbityBeeBop the creators of the film have even said it'll be a musical.... Nothing the fans wanted
@chrisbaled7471Ай бұрын
The early screening reviews said the opposite
@brianhanes5413Ай бұрын
I'm really hoping Joker 3 is about how he meets Batman.
@HANDLESET1ONEАй бұрын
It's NOT Confirmed Yet Tt Will Going To Be Trilogy.???.But Let's See.?. N NO BATS Chance, It JOKERS Movies N Bruce Wayne Was👶First One. N Also Already 2 BATS In All DCU Right NOW.
@juliegray7665Ай бұрын
what if they introduce a character that can counter joker who isn't batman since Bruce is a kid. maybe that's not plausible but I think it'd be an interesting surprise.
@brianhanes5413Ай бұрын
@@juliegray7665 Bruce is like 10 in Joker 1 I think. Joker is around 32 or something. But Bruce becomes Batman at 26. So 26-10= 16. In 16 years Joker will be 48 and Batman 26. They can fight then. Joker's actor could play that age with a little makeup and part of the theme could be that he's getting older while he fights Batman. It actually makes perfect sense to me with how Joker has always treated Bats.
@juliegray7665Ай бұрын
@brianhanes5413 that would be really sick if it plays out like that. I was seeing disagreement on what jokers age is bc I think some ppl assume just bc Joaquin is older that his character is over 40. but yea if he's like 32 I think that could work out I'm excited to see how they'll do it.
@hamshkot2.073Ай бұрын
Same
@ZachDift-kc4nk14 күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s gonna be a musical in the way people are assuming (something like sound of music or something where the characters burst into song every 5 minutes). Rather I think we’re just going to have a couple of scenes where music is featured and maybe one scene where Gaga sings or something. It’s probably going to be more along the lines of Joker where Arthur would dance along to music only he could hear (like after killing those 3 Wall Street guys and he starts dancing in the public bathroom or when he’s going down the stairs and dancing, etc)
@MCHammerSmittyBacallJagerman2 ай бұрын
That would actually be pretty awesome
@slthjawa5062Ай бұрын
No. It won't be.
@MelancholyPepperАй бұрын
Wouldn’t that just be the same twist from the first movie?
@Robin-be1zmАй бұрын
No?
@MelancholyPepperАй бұрын
@@Robin-be1zm but wasn’t there literally a character he thought was his partner but their relationship turned out to just be a figment of his imagination? And the twist was finding out she wasn’t really there for a lot of it
@SACKBOY123432Ай бұрын
@@MelancholyPepper Yeah that was the twist in the first one . I think Harley is going to be real
@kurdishmercenary741328 күн бұрын
yeah well they may as well trick us with the thought of 'lightning doesn't strike twice'
@SirS2pendousАй бұрын
As soon as I heard there was music, I knew that it would be in his mind. Not a stretch to assume in my opinion. It aligns with how he saw the apartment girl in the first film. Joker also likes theatrics.
@abeltesfaye_Ай бұрын
I give Joaquin MAJOR PROPS for losing all the weight TWICE. I honestly didn't think he'd lose the weight again & he proved me wrong. Insanely incredible!
@Shotoutyahnitv11 күн бұрын
It’s a lot more achievable when your getting paid millions and you have nutritionists and trainers holding you accountable
@joker3650Ай бұрын
Also, there was a leaked scene were police came to take in Arthur for whatever crimes he committed and they paid no attention to Harleen. Which makes me think, yes; yes, this is all in his mind and possibly still in Arkham. 💯
@monstermachine3101Ай бұрын
I get the feeling that Joker will be selling the idea to Harley . In the end of the film Harely will help him escape
@catcat2607Ай бұрын
That checks out with him behind the glass and her drawing the smile on him. That’s a real part where she’s Dr Quinzel
@shaneedgeworth4511Ай бұрын
It would be so dumb if this was all in his head, cos it would just be repeating what happened with his neighbour from the first movie. It’s much better if the two characters exist within this one delusion of their own creation, which is where the musical aspects will likely come into play. I think they will hear this music together, which is much more powerful thematically. To make Harley another figment of Arthur’s imagination would be missing the point.
@poppyfan284222 күн бұрын
Next batman would be a figment of jokers And then ivy 🤣🤣🤣
@d.johnson31642 ай бұрын
Not a fan theory. Todd phillips pretty much gave away the plot. And its all in arthurs head entirely.
@Lil_ValorАй бұрын
That’s not exactly the plot…
@emosam07Ай бұрын
Isn't the whole point of the title is that it's a SHARED delusion?
@doc8013Ай бұрын
The dancing and singing is in his head, the destruction they're causing is very real.
@PartyClown-yp4ijАй бұрын
@@doc8013 I swear these people have never experienced a day dream in their lives. They truly are NPCs
@blorpbleepboop2 ай бұрын
Comment section is filled with a bunch of 13 year olds
@moonwhooper2 ай бұрын
Its youtube shorts what else were you expecting
@TheRealCSD62 ай бұрын
Well... we'll see how that goes
@apacaseptic8300Ай бұрын
My life’s is nothing but a musical.
@LuzDoSol-yr5bvАй бұрын
I hope no. Gaga needs to be around Gottam in a car singing and killing her heart out with Joker.
@drakendtvlАй бұрын
Imagine if his name "arthur fleck" is fake and its actually "jack oswald white" and at the end gets launched into acid and thats how we get the real joker
@drakendtvlАй бұрын
@@skywar12 bruh- how? lmao
@PacifyKyАй бұрын
That would suck/devalue this movie and first. But that would never happen cuz the director said back in the first movie this is a totally different take on the joker, with none of that comic fall in an acid vat bleach skin bullshit but a more grounded “realism”. We already get so many stories like that, this is better for this universe.
@faireny17 күн бұрын
I am a fan of JOKER but if this is a musical, I don’t think I could sit through out the entire movie.
@chillbeats4296Ай бұрын
My favorite part is the slight story change where Harleen Quinzel is a patient at Arkham instead of a nurse to me that makes more sense
@Harls19922 күн бұрын
"Harlon" Quinzel💀😂
@gemeyes484520 күн бұрын
Awe, just waiting on the original harley quinn, eiuld love to see Leto again. He was fun!
@Adam_sahaja14 күн бұрын
Fuck that man, I don't wanna see him as a joker. He's a good actor but not fit for joker character
@ChromaticVanityАй бұрын
Folie A Duex means shared madness in French. Meaning he's going to share his madness, which is how that term works. Or meaning that it's all going to be in HER head, if anything
@ChromaticVanityАй бұрын
Besides, we all know she was a doctor but the trailer shows her being the patient. It's def all in her head, for the most part. The ending will be about...showmanship...in a manic/delusional way...bc it'll be all about spreading his "madness" to the world. Given the ending will be for the viewer
@jacobheise395119 күн бұрын
Im fairly certain, that you dont get it.... 🥂
@lordcheesewhiz76134 күн бұрын
Folie a duex is a condition where one sane person is so wrapped up with an insane person that they begin to share their delusion. As long as they r together they have a joint psychosis. However, once separated the sane person will eventually go back to “normal” while the insane person will continue with their delusion. A great example is a set of French twins who grew up only communicating with each other and eventually became violent with each other as well as sexually involved. They committed a violent crime but once separated one twin who was also the weaker of the two was able to recover bc she wasn’t under her sisters delusional control
@Rory240810 күн бұрын
Him saying he’s not alone anymore makes me believe it’s a Shared delusion. I do believe she’s already mentally unstable when she gets to the hospital being a patient instead of a doctor in this universe.
@chris2008303 күн бұрын
If this all happens in his mind, I don't think the title should be "Folie a deux" cause that literally implies two people sharing a psychosis.
@WayneFarlow6 күн бұрын
I hope they don’t do that because they did that in the first movie with his neighbor so that would be stupid of them to repeat that .
@imeltwhenyousmileАй бұрын
This would be too banal, as we already had such twist in the Joker 1 with another girl. If I remember correctly, this movie will be told from the perspective of Harley, so all the music is happening in her head more likely. And maybe it will be indeed a shared madness, and Joker will hear the same music as well.
@kevinjabalera5840Ай бұрын
From the teaser, I don’t think she will be a psychiatrist, more like another paitient.
@Nichole.MonroeАй бұрын
Can't wait
@KevinLopez-lb9qoАй бұрын
Hitman 2 : the world is a weapon 🔫 Joker 2 : the world is a stage hmmm 😏🤔
@krisgrymАй бұрын
Completely agree
@dimitrikrazyАй бұрын
The director already stated that the songs are taking place in both of their minds
@behindthen0thing525Ай бұрын
Wow you guys got access to the script?
@ZuperZuck13 күн бұрын
It would be way too predictable for the director to do the same twist he did in the first film
@clawer9Ай бұрын
It would be cool if they play like he thinks they’re in love but the whole time she’s completely terrified of him and it becomes this weird Stockholm syndrome moment with them.
@ale.ey13Ай бұрын
Here’s where you went wrong though. She’s not a doctor in this movie. She’s a patient meaning she’s already in some way deranged. So in some ways it’s very possible that she becomes Harley.
@Wiggi14724 күн бұрын
So a lot like 2 of my other fave films, fight club, and shutter island
@13rnvencesАй бұрын
Nah, I’m guessing he’s actually going to be getting better mentally speaking but she is going to bring the joker back and out of him.
@coreywolf49Ай бұрын
Arthur would see Dr. Quinzel exactly as a patient since he sees her mental instability. Given the title eventually the good doctor may start showing actual signs of that but maybe a 3rd movie for the actual transformation. Not the best way to go about it though.
@user-ld1jb2fy8pАй бұрын
it would be cool to see lady Gaga as the woman who inspired him, I hope her character is not Harley Quinn but a mystery woman we find out who helped the joker become THE JOKER. can't wait to see the movie, I'm going to see it in theaters.
@MonsieurDrobot21 күн бұрын
Sounds very accurate
@elninio98114 сағат бұрын
I hope it's not in his head, thing is it's called folie a deux isn't it a shared madness or madness for 2 so surely SURELY she is reeealllll 😢
@angelinazahrai368825 күн бұрын
Honestly, I love this theory a lot but honestly, I wish it doesn’t come true because I think that joker deserves an actual Harley Quinn
@Taka-KevzАй бұрын
Margot Robbie is the real Harley.
@fernandosepulveda7297Ай бұрын
She sucked
@pablochocobar952Ай бұрын
Exacto , así es yo llegué a la misma conclusión, tu teoría es la más acertada o por lo menos yo lo veo así analizando la última escena del trailer.
@whypotheticalАй бұрын
That was already a twist in the first movie. Would be lame as hell if they just did it again.
@srushti632Ай бұрын
But uk the joker is never in love with Harley he just uses her, even in the comics he keeps abandoning her when they’re about to get caught and also takes credit for all the plans she makes
@lucasbachmannАй бұрын
Joker isn't technically a super villain in this continuity. He's just a crazy clown that indirectly started a riot.
@SlimMercАй бұрын
100% agree
@xaviersanchez-ig7li26 күн бұрын
im gonna ask will harleen jump in the chemicals happen?
@Neptune8Ай бұрын
I have a feeling this movie will be considered bad in comparison to part one but I’m going based solely off the trailer.
@GedeEbimi5 күн бұрын
I love this movie
@mr.blobberry3112Ай бұрын
A big part of the last film was that he had a madeup relationship with someone, I don't think they will repeat the plot. Also just look at the movie title... that's all.
@Orion-Pax_34Ай бұрын
It’s probably going to be in Harley’s head this time
@LaPaisiblePetiteGnometteАй бұрын
Not sure about this. The Joker is the main character of this story, and we follow his full evolution into a very crazy man.
@RaHulJaYant9Ай бұрын
I though John Campae is on the short
@lemons_s21 күн бұрын
What if it's actually all in Harley's head instead?
@KevinLopez-lb9qoАй бұрын
Lady gaga is in it!
@tattoodude8946Ай бұрын
Well, Harley isn't his doctor so that is kind of out. I guess he could be fanatisizing about a fellow inmate, but that seems counterintuitive.
@Matteo-1987Ай бұрын
Agree 👍
@JC-xx5dmАй бұрын
Its all real. Thats the trick.
@TheBumShackler2 ай бұрын
Dood idk clearly none of y’all saw that heart destroyingly good movie with her and Bradley Cooper. Hearing this actually has me more hyped than before lol, I have a feeling this could be fucking awesome in a wild way
@mr.knowbuddy2149Ай бұрын
I hate musicals, aside from gene wilder's willy wonka i just cant handle them
@jacs868920 күн бұрын
Agreed
@animalsandlegos4525Ай бұрын
Hope not, hate movies where its all dream/ this
@kated2195Ай бұрын
Yeah sorry but I’m going to have to disagree. I think that the movie will have delusional sequences as well as being outside of the asylum. It would honestly defeat the purpose of what this movie is about. I strongly believe that Todd Phillips wouldn’t go down that road
@markfisher10629 күн бұрын
I hope so, bc they way it’s looking now, it doesn’t look very good tbh
@hamshkot2.073Ай бұрын
Kinda anticlimactic. Majority of the first movie was supposedly in his head already so
@marcoadan1Ай бұрын
How about we just wait till we actually see the film...🙄
@Bee-pv2rvАй бұрын
please google what „folie à deux“ means, it‘s a type of psychosis. so i don‘t think, that all of this will be happening „just“ in his head. it will show, how harley gets mad. i‘m very excited!
@slthjawa5062Ай бұрын
I don't care. The movie doesn't need a sequel and I'll never waste my time watching a musical.
@tattedtfup7933Ай бұрын
She will actually not be Dr Harley quinzel. That character does not come into play until about 20 years later. This is not the actual joker. He's not even the real joker. The joker was inspired by this person.
@matthewholt9501Ай бұрын
Idk 🤷♂️
@SamanthathaQuinnАй бұрын
I regret clicking on this clip
@user-bu1oo1ih3h25 күн бұрын
Oh my god I didn't even know they're going to make a joke or two this joker sucks but the fact they're going to have Lady Gaga play Harley Quinn just gave me goosebumps
@Mcg502 ай бұрын
😮
@KayP3311 күн бұрын
Why you guys always trying to ruin movies before they come out.
@paulbounleuth8901Ай бұрын
🎨📽️🃏🎭🎭🔮
@mn-bf6ymАй бұрын
Its never "its all in his mind".. joker is a story teller.. he tells story . U just have to choose which part is true and which part is made up . First story is just joker telling the story. It might not be true at all, half might be true or it all could be true .. no one knows except joker himself. The fact is, he is joker. He is a story teller. He tells u whatever he wanted whether its facts or lies. Conclusion, the first movie is pointless. Its just joker telling us a story. A story we can never knew whether its a fictional truth or fictional lies
@primeobjective5469Ай бұрын
That's too predictable.
@gavinlove5273Ай бұрын
This is dumb. The title of the movie is Folie à Deux which is a mental condition where two or more people share the same delusion's. For this title to make any sense Harley's going to have to A. Be real and B. Share the same delusions as Arthur.
@robzdelucas1366Күн бұрын
Hope youre wrong that will ruin the movie for alot of people
@jacobjimenez3243Ай бұрын
Thanks for ruining the whole Flippin movie for me boss
@JUPITER13n2 ай бұрын
a lot of things are taking place in peoples minds and have real world effects. the first movie really kicked off the ““pandemic”” lets see paul allen’s joker movie
@TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth2 ай бұрын
Crack is a hell of a drug
@lennonsvrchannel2 ай бұрын
What??? What are you talking about?😂😂😂
@renokru7443Ай бұрын
well, she is not a doctor in this movie haha nice try
@adamthegamer8836Ай бұрын
First of all, the director came off and said that this is not a musical so that's bullshit
@Chickenfarmer122 ай бұрын
This movie is going to be so bad.
@JustLikeAFlower2 ай бұрын
They said that about the first one look how that turned out
@iscesp042 ай бұрын
@@JustLikeAFloweryeah but the first one wasn’t a musical
@JustLikeAFlower2 ай бұрын
@@iscesp04 the first one was said to be trash and overdramatization of a great character that shouldn’t be done again. They did it again and it was great.
@koolkidz62632 ай бұрын
@@iscesp04what is it with you guys and musicals
@Livviegirlie2 ай бұрын
How can you know that something is bad if you've never given it a chance? People should learn to be more open-minded about things. I think that this movie is going to be great and would I rather it not be music, yea but there are good musicals out there
@SirBiGGs217 күн бұрын
Boooooooooo!
@AnthonyELombardi2 ай бұрын
This will suck because of this gaga man thing
@Anonymous-bk6eq2 ай бұрын
yea this is going flop sooooo damn hard, who ask for this btw?
@MCHammerSmittyBacallJagerman2 ай бұрын
I am stoked for this. I like the whole musical idea.
@xDIAMONDDOGx5792 ай бұрын
I hate the fact that its Lady Gaga playing Harley why when you have Margot?
@CalebTheUncool2 ай бұрын
Bruh
@retro.raider2 ай бұрын
She doesn’t own that role.
@KarpetBurn2 ай бұрын
Is that the voice actor? Voice actors and regular actors are very different professions.
@retro.raider2 ай бұрын
@@KarpetBurn Margot Robbie played Harley in Suicide Squad 2016
@dyzieklalune55362 ай бұрын
And Jared Leto played Joker, so shut up.
@josevillanueva80782 ай бұрын
Gross
@headrockbeats2 ай бұрын
Oy vey.
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Hey Everyone, what's Up and How's it Going? Wow, thank You "for (Art/Film) Helping create" Musical: Oh, based On inspiring (CATS/JOKER) Characters' identified Relationship! Yeah, of Course "me (Autism/Disability) Too" you're Welcome: Well now God's (Children/People) fighting Against corruption, With artistic Expression (Dark/Light): Abused bullying Cults?!?
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Wow, followers "Peacefully overthrowing (Corrupt/Evil) Society" rescuing Children: Oh, the Joker's clowns (Protest/Rioting) Against cannibal Pennywise? Yes, like "Doctor Sleep" (IT/Vampires) feeding On fear: Well of Course (Film/Musical) destigmatizing Mental illness, Help people Like (Autism/Disability) me Exposing truth!
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Wow, of Course "researched (Documents/Dramatize) Scriptwriting" rewatch Movies: Oh, my Joker's innocent (Child/Jesus) Fighting back Though?!? Yup, a Vigilante "instead (Antihero/Antivillain) Batman" won't Understand: Well they're Children (Brothers/Sisters): life Force energy, Pennywise's cannibal Vampires (IT/Shining) want Their light?
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Wow, my Story's "combining (Past/Present) Future" grounded Reality: Oh, when CATS and (DC/Gaiman) JOKER take Place: 1930s - 1980s! Yeah, ancient Evil "from (King/Lovecraft) Cthulhu/Pennywise" monster Vampires: 1910s - 1960s Well there's Broadway (Sondheim/Webber) musicals' Soundtrack revue, Company/Phantom's opera Rock (Jesus/Joseph) into SWEENEY/WOODS characters: 1970s - 1980s?!?
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Wow, like "My ideas (Antichrist/Superstar) Theories" crucifying Joker/Jesus: Oh, with Penny Fleck/Sophie Dumond (Mary/Magdalene) representing Mother Mary/Harley Quinn! Yes, their "Music's song (JOKER/Magdalene) Rooftop's" in Both/Movies: Well of Course (Art/Film) the Joker's musical, Hildur Guðnadóttir's soundtracks (Phoenix's JOAker/harley QUINn) Mary Magdalene's Jesus/Joaquin?!?
@MichaelCopley2162 ай бұрын
Wow, thank You for (Sharing/Thoughts) Joker won't Conform/Fall: Oh, his "Clowns idolize (Doesn't/Want) Against" his Own/Wishes? No, mother's Penny/Fleck though (Mary/Magdalene) Sophie/Dumond's Harley Quinn: Well his Father's (Franklin/Wayne) "killed Family/Them both, Figures/Idols in Life" (Brothers/Sisters) like Batman/Bruce himself!
@FunnyGA1exАй бұрын
Oh no, KZfaqrs and thinking is a bad combo. Just don’t give them tridium and the world should be safe
@ClickToPreviewАй бұрын
Ooh, I really like this. Not sure how it works in the ultimate, but really, really interesting thoughts here.
@xxxburkeАй бұрын
Nah, I don't think they'll do the same thing twice. This is a very creative team working on the film and I suspect they will do something just as interesting but different. Like this film possibly being in her mind.
@syrusriddick2 ай бұрын
This has always been weird to me because this is a great psychological film series but in no way does it have to do with the Joker in any way other than name or any form of the DC Comics universe other than the names of the characters being used.
@garrettramirez4282 ай бұрын
It will be revealed that Arthur is a dude who just reads too many Batman comic books.