Why Couldn't Voldemort KILL Dumbledore in the Ministry Atrium (Book VS Film) Harry Potter Explained

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Harry Potter Theory

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we're discussing Voldemort & Dumbledore's duel inside of the ministry atrium. This duel happened in the order of the phoenix, and it’s arguably the most impressive looking duel on-screen that we’ve seen to date. It was a duel of epic proportions- good against evil, light against dark- and it totally overshadowed all of the boring stalemates that Harry had with Voldemort. However, one thing that is completely worth mentioning is that their duel was represented very differently from book to film. The film adaptation certainly took some liberties with the contents of the book, and, rather than staying true to the picture that the book had initially painted for us, it mixed things up-most likely for increased cinematic and dramatic effect. But, in doing so, they actually portrayed the characters in a very different light than we had expected- and it was honestly quite inconsistent with what we had initially read in the books.
If you only saw the film- you might be wondering: Why couldn’t Voldemort end Dumbledore right then and there?
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@alvinmadziwo4279
@alvinmadziwo4279 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore referring to Voldemort as "Tom" seems like the ultimate sign of disrespect or simply his way of showing that he still sees him as that young boy from the orphanage and therefore not much of a threat. No matter how strong or powerful Voldemort may become, Dumbledore will always have Tom's number
@Craftee6
@Craftee6 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more because of familiarity, despite being adversaries. He was his teacher after all. Imagine for example musician, who uses stage name meeting his primary school teacher. I wouldn't imagine that teacher would call them by that name, rather use their real name, even if whole world know them under this name. After all, lord voldemort was a made up name.
@CJ-im2uu
@CJ-im2uu 2 жыл бұрын
Calling Voldemort TOM pointed out YOU AFE NOT EXTRAORDINARY, rather common, mortal.
@cityrat3237
@cityrat3237 Жыл бұрын
Well Voldemort thought of himself as a god like being and dumbledor calling him Tom on purpose is to remind him that no matter what he’s still just human
@NileSWPhotography
@NileSWPhotography Жыл бұрын
Seen this comment on about 4 different videos of this nature
@lordbaethan
@lordbaethan Жыл бұрын
It's Dumbledore's way of not allowing Voldemort to control the situation
@alexdredge655
@alexdredge655 6 ай бұрын
Insane that Dumbledore owned Voldemort, trapped Bellatrix, protected Harry and sent word to Fudge all at the same time. You may not like him but you can’t deny, Dumbledore’s got style.
@jihanessa4132
@jihanessa4132 6 ай бұрын
Did you not read or hear? Are you OK? He literally was saved by tons of third parties. Are you mad? He only trapped bellatrix instead of duelling cuz she blocked his spells prior to this. He literally didn't want to duel her ( not to waste time although only 2 minutes and bella is defeated) and got a bird to save his old ... whatever.
@axolyn4504
@axolyn4504 5 ай бұрын
@@jihanessa4132 oh boy, his joke flew past waaaaaay over your tiny head
@jihanessa4132
@jihanessa4132 5 ай бұрын
@@axolyn4504 doesn't seem like a joke and a lot of people are saying the same "joke" and basing arguments over it. So please elaborate more.
@axolyn4504
@axolyn4504 5 ай бұрын
​@@jihanessa4132 the thing is he wasn't actually being serious with his comment about Dumbledore, he's powerfull but nobody can handle all that, hence the exaggeration. Also, another "hint" is in the quote "you may not like him but you can’t deny, Dumbledore’s got style.", which is what Shacklebolt says to Fudge when Dumbledore escapes going to Azkaban "with style" earlier in the story. Sorry for coming across a bit rude, it just looked kinda obvious to me that his comment was not supposed to be taken so seriousy.
@jihanessa4132
@jihanessa4132 5 ай бұрын
@@axolyn4504 K man but I didn't remember/recall kingsley saying that at the moment I wrote the comment so OK sorry I take that back. Of course we don't deny his power.
@verdibyrd
@verdibyrd 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like the only time we see dumbledore's real power is when he destroys the inferi army with one spell, whilst literally dying and driven half crazy by the evil potion. i think he was always holding back, maybe because last time he went all out his sister was killed.
@adamgreen3391
@adamgreen3391 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you!
@Knowledge.to_Come
@Knowledge.to_Come 6 ай бұрын
And even that is not full power given his weakened state. If voldemort is scared of you, your powerful beyond comprehension
@oguzelinc2048
@oguzelinc2048 5 ай бұрын
I tho always like that but its looks more like Elder Wand's forshadowin.
@udaysharma8149
@udaysharma8149 4 ай бұрын
​@@oguzelinc2048 elderwand tho enhances your power but isn't the sole power itself. Moreover by going through books, we see elderwand is rather overrated. It only enhances your magical abilities upto some extent. You can be disarmed nd you lose it's ownership at the exact same moment. For that we can have two conclusions. 1. JK Rowling failed to draw a proper character ketch of the elderwand. 2. Elderwand was a deathly hallows nd that's why it's overrated. A wizards power and magical abilities play the most important role rather than the elderwand. As we know the elderwand changed it's allegence time to time and from one weilder to the other. That didn't particularly had to do something with the power of the weilder but if in anyway their opponent is able to disarm the weilder, he/she'd be the new owner of the wand. It can be done either in face to face confrontations or by cleverly disarming the weilder. One more interesting fact we know about wands is that they're used to channelise the power of their weilder more precisely. The elderwand being the lord of wands would do the exact same thing with the best accuracy. Dumbledore was the most powerful wizard of his time from the very beginning. By no means he'd be dependent on the elder wand for everything. He was powerful, had surpassed every single wizard or witch he came accross nd was even the supreme mugwomp at a point of time. Even his his weak and fragile state, he was able to channelise thehis energy to perform some of the most powerful spells. Saying that it was just because of the elderwand highly diminishes his importance as a character and his feats of strength. He was wisest among all. He knew when nd where to use his immense power nd upto what extent. In reality as well as in fiction, there are some characters far more powerful than protagonist and the villian but there's always some sort of situation in which they can't straight away kill the villian. In the 5th book as well we can see that Dumbledore never tried to kill voldemort. He could've defeated him but he chose to protect Harry. Knowing that voldemort can't be killed nd even if he was defeated, soon he'd be back. Moreover, in order to kill voldemort, one hadda destroy the hocruxes. Dumbledore only feared one thing. It wasn't his death nor voldemort. But he feared what would happen to the wizarding world after him. Not untill he knew the exact number of hocruxes voldy had, he chose not to put himself in a situation where he's vulnerable to death. Nd even after that, he chose to die on his will and according to his plan.
@stephen-dfc
@stephen-dfc 4 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t find the fire in the cave overly impressive for him. It’s literally just a massive ring of magical fire, which of course looks incredible, but Dumbledore was capable of much more powerful magic than something as simple as that in my opinion!
@kylecollins3755
@kylecollins3755 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore is such an enigma. It seems like he can obliterate the entire Harry Potter universe by himself. He steps in when he needs to but only to the level he needs to.
@ZabljakLand
@ZabljakLand 2 жыл бұрын
Because he's a poor mans Gandalf.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly book Dumbledore. I wonder if the things we see him do take more preparation beforehand than we see. Like; he expects a duel with Voldemort, so he does a month long preparation, lots of meditation, creating complex preprepared spells he can do during the duel like the push on a button. Like; just disapparet, apparet and then send 4 inanimate objects on complex tasks like alerting other people through the flu network? That's something you don't do on the fly but sounds like you could prepare, like a potion.
@FrostDJakki3529
@FrostDJakki3529 2 жыл бұрын
Another Collins! I too be a Collins sir!
@kylecollins3755
@kylecollins3755 2 жыл бұрын
@@FrostDJakki3529 fantastic name, sir! lol
@charlieclark9552
@charlieclark9552 2 жыл бұрын
well he is Death
@sammurphy3343
@sammurphy3343 Жыл бұрын
I'd say Dumbledore still won in the movie but it was closer. Also the look on Voldemort's face when Dumbledore arrives is epic. True fear in his eyes.
@donis3722
@donis3722 7 ай бұрын
Dukblefore obviously wasn’t doing it to defeat Voldemort. He was trying to stall time for the Aurors to come and see the truth. Plus he had to protect harry. He was smart and Voldemort fell into his trap
@treykitchens86
@treykitchens86 4 ай бұрын
@@donis3722 you got the best comment!! That literally is exactly what happened and I can deduce that not even being fanatically into the series like that even tho i love the harry potter universe in all its forms book movie games etc
@all-caps3927
@all-caps3927 2 жыл бұрын
The person who chose to have absolutely no music in this scene was a hero. one of the greatest scenes in movie history, certainly the best duel in the original series of 8 HP movies. Although I think Dumbeldore vs Creedance is a favourite of mine due to the advancements of movie technique and visuals.
@stianaandal1488
@stianaandal1488 2 жыл бұрын
The scene would have been much better if they followed the book.
@showmenasta9935
@showmenasta9935 Жыл бұрын
@@stianaandal1488 agree and disagree? I wish we saw Dumbledore teleporting around to dodge spells but i also like the display of both users skills, Voldemort with mastery over destruction, casting large scale attacks without wand movements nor words, and Dumbledore using mastery of alteration to counter all these large scale attacks with minimal effort (using a despell on the fire snake and pushing the flames back, using the water from a fountain to trap Voldemort, turning the shards of glass into sand) it was a great display of their strengths
@FAM0US-M0NSTERS-
@FAM0US-M0NSTERS- Жыл бұрын
It was pretty damn cool
@xyz.ijk.
@xyz.ijk. Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. No music was just brilliant
@TheJawRaw
@TheJawRaw 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@stianaandal1488 seriesly. I thought the scene was underwhelming at best. Everything we knew about magic and how duels worked were just thrown out the window. It’s like in anime when every character has to get stronger and stronger till they’re doing things that undermine how the whole series works. Statues coming to life and tackling chasing people down. So unexpected and mysteries. It really showcases dumbledore skills. Dumbledore was a badass and this scene cemented himself into his already Legendary status. The dialog really strung everything together and made each scene more impactful. Idk why they thought it was a good idea to leave out all the dialog that made the scene what it was.
@mahadlodhi
@mahadlodhi 2 жыл бұрын
"It's foolish of you to come here tonight, the aurors will be here soon." "By that time, I shall be gone and you be dead." "You do not wish to kill me Dumbledore, above such brutality, are you?" The duel in the book is one of my fav moment of all. Just something about Dumbledore just casually blocking the curses while speaking to tom how death isn't the worst thing that could befall on a man.
@thayspamacheno628
@thayspamacheno628 2 жыл бұрын
Idk, Dumbledore was acting casual in their talk (he was not worried) but it's not like he easily defeated Voldemort. In reality he almost died, he would've been hit by the last Killing Curse without Fawkes' help.
@basicallybasic8697
@basicallybasic8697 2 жыл бұрын
@@thayspamacheno628 It's not like it was an accident that Fawkes was there. Dumbledore brought him for a reason. If Fawkes wasn't there Dumbledore would have summoned something else to protect him or dissapparate, and he was protecting Harry, while restraining Bellatrix all the while casually holding Voldie at bay. A Voldemort mind you that was trying to kill outright.
@thayspamacheno628
@thayspamacheno628 2 жыл бұрын
@@basicallybasic8697 Not really, Dumbledore does not "bring" Fawkes anywhere, Fawkes as a phoenix that is loyal to Dumbledore can find him wherever he is (just like it found Harry in Chamber of Secrets) and sense if he is in danger. These are powers they possess. And Dumbledore did have ways to defend himself as he was shown doing (statues), but everytime one of the statues blocked in the Killing Curse would destroy them, and by that time there were none left, Dumbledore wasn't able to apparate quickly enough and it's been clearly stated multiple times throughout the series that it is impossible to block the Killing Curse with magic (you may only use physical objects). So I can easily say Fawkes actually saved Dumbledore's life at that point and he would have died otherwise, because that's exactly what happened in the scene - for a moment it seems Dumbledore will be hit, then Fawkes swoops in and dies in his place (but since it is a phoenix, it is immediately reborn afterwards). Dumbledore wasn't holding Bellatrix at all, she was hit by one of his spells but it is not like he was actively keeping her in place with his powers, that's not how spells work, they don't need to be "kept" through concentration once they've been cast. That aside, Dumbledore was acting casual when he interact with Voldemort, but he not even once was duelling him in a casual way, they were both exchanging extremely powerful spells, elemental magic and transfiguration are extremely advance forms of magic to use in a duel, just using them already is far from "casual", Dumbledore was >talking< casually to Voldemort, but so was Voldemort when addressing him, even if he was way more aggressive. Anyway, I'm not saying Dumbledore is not more powerful than Voldemort. He is, and that has been both stated and proven multiple times through the books. He was the most powerful wizard in the world, perhaps in wizarding history. But it is not like Voldemort was SO much weaker than Dumbledore that he could easily defeat him. I'm just pointing out that even if Dumbledore was more powerful than he was, the difference was not that huge and Dumbledore could easily die duelling him if he was not careful, because Voldemort is the only person in the world who can spam the Killing Curse rapidly (even Bellatrix was not able to simply spam it like Voldemort does) and he went deeper in the dark arts than any other dark wizard before him, to the point it has been clearly stated by Dumbledore himself that "Voldemort possessed powers I will never have" (ofc, he won't have them by choice, but it is still an advantage of Voldemort over him, since dark arts have been shown to be much harder to defend against than ordinary magic).
@gregnelson9379
@gregnelson9379 2 жыл бұрын
@@thayspamacheno628 But he does apparate when Voldemort sends his first killing curse and appears behind Voldemort.
@thayspamacheno628
@thayspamacheno628 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregnelson9379 They were closer now. Apparating does no happen instantly (think of Dobby at the Malfoy Manor). Dumbledore was defenseless at that moment, he would've died if Fawkes did not sweep in
@EnzoTiezzi
@EnzoTiezzi 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore was just buying time. His intentions were to make the minister and the others see by themselves that Voldemort was back To achieve that, he needed to buy lots of time. He was not worried about losing, he is way more powerful than Tom, but he was worried in buying enough time.
@godisjihyo3615
@godisjihyo3615 Жыл бұрын
he was also keeping harry safe
@brianshemirani4421
@brianshemirani4421 Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Kewickviper
@Kewickviper Жыл бұрын
If he was that much more powerful then why didn't he just finish off voldemort there and then? Turning him back into his spirit form would have made it much easier to go around destroying the other horcruxes.
@amedeosantini3911
@amedeosantini3911 Жыл бұрын
@@Kewickviper simply because one of the horcruxes was Harry.
@HumanPerson_final
@HumanPerson_final Жыл бұрын
I guess I’d say I’m in between. I think Dumbledore was more powerful at this point on paper, but Voldemort was more brutal and willing to kill. Dumbledore was holding back just enough to buy time and keep his intentions to not outright kill Voldemort.
@caydengonzales5495
@caydengonzales5495 2 жыл бұрын
I simply believe even in power dumbledore was stronger and had no intention to kill voldemort since the horcruxes hadn't all been destroyed yet.
@Queen_Kellz_1120
@Queen_Kellz_1120 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was always my thought too
@emankcin1701
@emankcin1701 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore: "Even though the devastating loss, Harry, you must not sacrifice yourself" Harry: *jumps towards the next Killing Curse* Dumbledore: *Blows the tip of his two fingers as if extinguishing smoke from gun barrel* thinking "and that's the end of Harry-Horcrux. Touché".
@summoner3438
@summoner3438 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore didn't know at this point that voldemort had horcruxes but dumbledore realized all the attacks he gives to voldemort don't harm him at all and that's when dumbledore became sceptical because the dark lord doesn't get any damage and voldemort just keeps coming back for more
@paulgraf5746
@paulgraf5746 2 жыл бұрын
He might have been a tiny bit more powerful but that’s because of the elder wand. With equal wands, Voldemort is slightly more powerful, not to mention if Voldemort has the elder wand. Just check how he destroyed the whole shield at the Hogwarts battle in a matter of seconds. Dumbledore wouldn’t be able to produce such a power, even with the elder wand (and it wasn’t even loyal to Voldemort in that scene)
@summoner3438
@summoner3438 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulgraf5746 As much as i like Voldemort and obviously voldemort is the most powerful and dangerous dark wizard of all time but Dumbledore still edge out voldemort with power because dumbledore is the powerful sorcerer in the world and holds the title of Grand Sorcerer. On harry potter and the hall blood prince dumbledore produced a massive fire storm and that was dumbledore at his weakest because of the poison he drank. The correct rankings is 1)Dumbledore 2)Voldemort 3)Grindelwald And it has been confirmed by jk Rowling herself period
@ryanrj7500
@ryanrj7500 Жыл бұрын
"It was foolish of you to come here tonight, Tom" so badass
@integralmath
@integralmath Жыл бұрын
It's strange that you think Fawkes' appearance shows a weakness on Dumbledore's part rather than his using the full range of magic at his disposal, and that the righteousness of his cause makes other magical creatures want to fight with him whereas Voldemort mostly has supporters because he kills all the no men. Dumbledore in many other instances has plans that involve Fawkes, who typically shows up to do one simple task and then is done for a bit. It's almost like a summoned pet in a video game, who shows up to do a thing or two on a limited timer and then has a somewhat lengthy cooldown before being available again. A Phoenix is, after all, said to be highly intelligent and fiercely loyal. Why anyone would think his presence in a battle would be for something other than as part of the team is curious: why on Earth would a Phoenix befriend and be loyal to a wizard so weak or stupid that he wouldn't be able to make use of a Phoenix's intellect and skills? Who is the only member of the team in the Order named after Fawkes' species who could be hit with a killing curse without dying? Fawkes. Who would Dumbledore fight who uses killing curses? How useful would it be to have Voldemort mistake a good time to waste his time using a curse that looked as though he'd be able to land it but which was actually meant to be a waste of precious casting time because at no point was Dumbledore actually vulnerable? Remember, Dumbledore is the most strategic and tactical thinker in the story. He's planned out everything in fine detail including how and when he himself must be killed, how and when Voldemort must be killed, and so on down the line. Do you think he recruited as a pet one that can apparate at will, and whose apparition ability is unaffected by the magic of wizards, all willy-nilly? Or is this just another bit of Dumbledore's ability to plan out when, where and how to engage with Voldemort so that the battle and war both are profitably pursued to the advantage of the good and great?
@grantwoods5972
@grantwoods5972 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I saw it as well! If he didn't have fawkes there then it would have been another statue. He would have covered all his openings
@m.caeben2578
@m.caeben2578 10 ай бұрын
The thought was running through my mind the first time he mentioned Fawkes showed a weakness in Dumbledore and I cringed at every time he repeated the statement. Thanks for taking the time to fully flesh out the idea, and adding much more. It was great you mention Dumbledore tactical abilities and the loyalty of such a magnificent creature seeing good in him.
@integralmath
@integralmath 10 ай бұрын
@@m.caeben2578 thanks. Obviously, I thought he was so far wrong that I had to tear apart the bad argument. His view is just preposterous. =^_^=
@darkwulf4862
@darkwulf4862 6 ай бұрын
I fully agree with your explanation. Plus, honestly, I think it would have been more entertaining if the movie actually followed the book and showed Dumbledore basically dog-walk Tom like he was dealing with a child throwing a tantrum, because it would have driven home to the audience who might not have read the book as to why Tom had made such effort to avoid direct conflict with Dumbledore. That is one of the things that drove me nuts about the movies, was they did not due Dumbledore true justice in just how capable he really is, and the only reason Tom was as successful as he was during the 1st Deatheater war was cause he used misdirection and avoided directly fighting Dumbledore and want after everyone else, cause while he is no mach against Albus, 1 thing is certain, Dumbledore could not be everywhere.
@integralmath
@integralmath 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. It's sad that the movie folks decided not to do justice to Dumbledore and is power... including how he simultaneously and singlehandedly battled all of the death eaters and bested them. They downplayed his magical power and the power of his wand. It's a real pity and a totally lost opportunity to show that Voldemort had excellent reasons for fearing only Dumbledore. In addition to their respective power levels, Voldemort had a further weakness: he was too arrogant to have realized that Dumbledore's magical power wasn't the only thing he had to fear about Dumbledore. Dumbledore had learned that his knowing and being too proud of being more powerful than everyone and their brother was the one weakness he had that would lead him to ruin. Voldemort couldn't learn that lesson, and that as much as anything else is how Dumbledore worked out how to defeat him once and for all. And Dumbledore recognized that embracing a just and righteous death was itself the key. Voldemort ran from death and in the process ran himself to ruin. The deathly hallows tales told in the story is actually the allegory that appropriately frames the solution to the Voldemort problem and explains the whole of how Harry and crew would defeat Voldemort and crew. But the moviemakers screwed that beautiful piece of storytelling nineteen ways to Friday.@@darkwulf4862
@2B_S5
@2B_S5 2 жыл бұрын
See, Dumbledore always had a plan. Book 4 he was basically elated that voldemort took Harry's blood, therefore keeping Lily's protective charm alive in him. Dumbledore also knew that Harry was a Horcrux. Book 6, he admitted to caring for Harry too much. Dumbledore knew the prophecy, "neither can live while the other survives." His whole plan was to give Harry the best chance at living, even if he had to die (destroy him being horcrux) to get the job done. Dumbledore killing Voldemort's body in book 5 would have taken away Lily's protective spell which would have meant certain death for Harry once he figured out he HAS to die to destroy the horcrux in him. Tldr: Dumbledore loved Harry and gave him the only way to come out of this alive in the end. Edit: Dumbledore claps at any other time.
@LavitosExodius
@LavitosExodius 2 жыл бұрын
Except Petunia is also able to sustain Harry's charm until his 17th birthday or if he moved out before that this is why Dumbledore made Harry go back to the Dursley's every summer. Because so long as he could call a blood relative of Lily's house home the bond of blood charm would stay active. The movie did a really bad job of explaining this because its also the one thing that shows Petunia in a new light. She had to willingly accept Harry for the charm to work. Even as much as she hated his magic blood she still willingly accepted him to protect him. Or simply put this is how Dumbledore explained it. "While you can still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touched or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives on in you and her sister. Her blood became your refuge. You need return there only once a year, but as long as you can still call it home, there he cannot hurt you. Your aunt knows this. I explained what I had done in the letter I left, with you, on her doorstep. She knows that allowing you houseroom may well have kept you alive for the past fifteen years." - Dumbledore explaining how the charm works
@2B_S5
@2B_S5 2 жыл бұрын
@@LavitosExodius I've always seen Petunia as a way to bide Harry time. Yes, you are factually correct, but Dumbledore eventually came to love Harry enough to want him to survive the prophecy. By Dumbledore's reaction at the end of the 4th book, he had already had some concept of that endgame, and that was Riddle taking Harry's blood to resurrect, meaning the charm would live in Voldemort regardless of how old Harry was. Now, the only explanation for this is really left to speculation. Why would the charm continue to work? The only thing I can think of is the specificity Dumbledore used....Petunia, a blood relative, had to accept Harry, versus Voldemort willingly taking Harry's blood. It's obviously not explained in detail, but I'd love to hear more of your perspective.
@LavitosExodius
@LavitosExodius 2 жыл бұрын
@@2B_S5 No the charm itself will automatically remove at 17 that has been stated by JK at a conference as far back as 2005 even. Dumbledores charm just made the sacrificial protection last longer but not permanently. Ani Morison for Sunday Star Times New Zealand - My question is why does Harry keep going back to the Dursleys, when he is closer to the Weasleys than he is to them? JK Rowling: That has been explained in the books to an extent, it has been explained in the books but possibly you haven't yet finished this book when it is made very clear. Harry receives magical protection from his mother's sacrifice as long as he remains close to her blood. In other words, Aunt Petunia. That protection won't continue to hold once he is a man, once he turns 17 - he is no longer given that protective aura by his mother, so Dumbledore wants him to go back one more time to ensure the protection continues to his 17th birthday and after that he really is on his own.
@2B_S5
@2B_S5 2 жыл бұрын
@@LavitosExodius Then do you know why Dumbledore had that triumphant look in his eyes, briefly, after Harry told him that Voldemort took his blood?? It was always my understanding that this led to Harry having the option to return back to life or not after his horcrux was destroyed
@LavitosExodius
@LavitosExodius 2 жыл бұрын
@@2B_S5 See that whole thing is a plot hole though because it stands to reason if Harry can't be killed while Voldemort is alive neither can Voldemort as he also shares the protection now. As Harry was very much still alive. Unless were going to say by destroying his last horcrux Voldemort was already dying. Unless were also going to say well Voldemort killed himself with his own curse. Well then Harry could have just been Imperiused by somebody that wasn't Voldemort to kill himself. Which again invalidates the whole neither can die while the other lives which is what the charm implies. Because if were saying Harry's blood is what makes Voldemort unable to kill Harry well highly unlikely the charm can tell the different between people and just goes by blood then Harry would also be unable to kill Voldemort. Or much more likely JK forgot she had stated that about how the charm worked.
@anuragacharya8474
@anuragacharya8474 2 жыл бұрын
Also, have to consider that he was fighting while suppressing Bellatrix and protecting harry while trying to stall for the Aurors. Despite his old age, Dumbledore might just be the most powerful wizard of all time.. maybe merlin is his equal.
@GenichiSojo
@GenichiSojo Жыл бұрын
Merlin and Morgana La Fey would give him a hard time but Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard to ever exist and no one comes close to his power
@necromancer6405
@necromancer6405 Жыл бұрын
@@GenichiSojo Nah, modern wizards are far weaker than those of the past. Wizards in the past would fight armies, modern wizards would struggle against a few goblins. Modern wizards rely too much on wands and lack in both physique and variety, limited to a much smaller variety of spells they consider 'light'. Wizards of old could single-handedly kill a dragon whereas modern freak out about a mere werewolf. Wizards of old spent every moment trying to improve before they die, modern spend their time engorging on sweets and gold.
@1MSubsNovideos
@1MSubsNovideos Жыл бұрын
Merlin and Morgana are the most powerful wizard and witch to have ever existed, so they would rival Voldemort easily.
@GenichiSojo
@GenichiSojo Жыл бұрын
@@1MSubsNovideos Lets be honest, they would kill Voldemort in an instant and Dumbledore and Snape and Molly Weasly would actaully stand a chance.
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
@@necromancer6405 Was that ever actually established, though? Could it be like with sports, where we glorify the older guys (Bill Russel, Jerry West, etc), when in reality the new era of players are much better (jordan, lebron, etc)?.. I know the wizards in book had basically mythologized merlin and morganna, wasnt morrigan (the celtic goddess of war) a historical witch, too, as an ancestor to Isolt? Also, dragons can't be too deadly to wizards since they have highschoolers fight them as part of a competition..
@mahadlodhi
@mahadlodhi 2 жыл бұрын
I also loved how this chpt was titled The only one he ever feared
@sterlingforbes3872
@sterlingforbes3872 2 жыл бұрын
The reason D was so calm and confident is because he looked a lot like Jude Law when he was younger... that level of handsome confidence sticks with you for life.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 Жыл бұрын
point
@texanplayer7651
@texanplayer7651 2 жыл бұрын
4:25 "Dumbledore said calmly" Oh shewt, Voldemort must have been dead scared.
@Craftee6
@Craftee6 2 жыл бұрын
I understood that referrence.
@GabrielPassarelliG
@GabrielPassarelliG Жыл бұрын
In the movies, to say it calmly was everything needed to make Voldemort run in fear hahaha
@Chicken_of_Bristol
@Chicken_of_Bristol Жыл бұрын
I loved this duel in the books and I think it showed so much of what high level wizard dueling actually could be. The killing curse is directly uncounterable, but it has a travel time and can apparently be intercepted by other objects, which means that the way a master wizard actually kills another master wizard is not by doing something more powerful, but by being creative and unexpected in their spellcasting. If you're powerful enough and know what your opponent is going to do, there's always some spell you can cast that will nullify it (or at the very least let you escape), so to defeat an opponent of a high enough level, you need to do something that takes them longer to figure out a response than they have to cast it. That's so much more interesting than all the wand-clashes that we got in most fights.
@Drymarro
@Drymarro 3 ай бұрын
I think it's a huge plot hole in this whole universe. Every death eater would just spam Avada kedavra and there wouldn't even exist such thing as duels
@shadowagent6051
@shadowagent6051 2 ай бұрын
@@Drymarro ,Exactly,they could just kill everything in their way,I guess the movies corrected this from the books to be honest,I sure there are many things JKR would change in the story if she could and this would be one of these things,the best thing in the frachise is a duel wand to wand without all these complicated spell casting,Tom and Dumbledore duel is simple,better and more badass in the movie cause he wasn't asking anything "calmly" 😂
@Drymarro
@Drymarro 2 ай бұрын
@@shadowagent6051 yes I'd design a better spell and dueling system. but can't take away credit from her creativity. Quidditch is also a stupid game but it is what it is. the duel with Tom and Dumbledore is brilliant in the movies because it highlights the different powers available for high-level wizards. There is a ton of inconsistency in these movies. For example, why didn't more wizards just buy Weasleys' magic tricks to win duels? For example the smoke bomb that Harry buys. They just resort to using their wand. Also, why don't more wizards use petrificus totalem? it seems a rather amazing spell to disable your opponent.
@shadowagent6051
@shadowagent6051 2 ай бұрын
@@Drymarro ,There's also the potions,I sure there are more forbidden potions out there that could give some advantage in spells,the "Petrificus Totalus" is effective to get someone off guard cause otherwise it can be counter with "Finite Incantatem",I think Quidditch is a awesome game but the Bludgers are very unnecessary and dangerous,it should be only the Quaffles and the Golden Snitch.
@Drymarro
@Drymarro 2 ай бұрын
@@shadowagent6051 I'm more about the side that Quidditch is dumb because the seeker and the 150 points makes everyone else useless! It was to make Harry the star tbh. Also yes, potions are literally almost never explored in the books/movies apart from polyjuice, with some small exceptions. So unfortunate. I think potions are one of my favorite aspects that could be explored deeper.
@Shaggi0209
@Shaggi0209 2 жыл бұрын
Voldemort: i will kill you and become the most powerful wizard alive. Dumbledore: Ah...Mondays are such pain in the ass.
@brettlarch8050
@brettlarch8050 2 жыл бұрын
“You do not seek to kill me, Dumbledore?” called Voldemort, his scarlet eyes narrowed over the top of the shield. “Above such brutality, are you?” “We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom,” Dumbledore said calmly, continuing to walk toward Voldemort as though he had not a fear in the world, as though nothing had happened to interrupt his stroll up the hall. “Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit -” “There is nothing worse than death, Dumbledore!” snarled Voldemort. “You are quite wrong,” said Dumbledore, still closing in upon Voldemort and speaking as lightly as though they were discussing the matter over drinks. Harry felt scared to see him walking along, undefended, shieldless. He wanted to cry out a warning, but his headless guard kept shunting him backward toward the wall, blocking his every attempt to get out from behind it. “Indeed, your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness -”
@tjhall1000
@tjhall1000 2 жыл бұрын
? yes the video shows that and tells that. no need to repeat it lol
@junesmind7325
@junesmind7325 2 жыл бұрын
Book Dumbledore gave me the chills in this scene. He is standing in front of the Most powerful Dark Wizard yet whose name brings terror to the entire Wizarding world and yet he's talking to him like he's just another student who needs to be punished.
@muhammadwaqarsiddiqui6731
@muhammadwaqarsiddiqui6731 Жыл бұрын
Presence of Dumbledor in those situation gives relief to me, that Dumbledore is here, no one will harm you!! Even Voldemort,
@robertlee8519
@robertlee8519 Жыл бұрын
So, one of D's weaknesses was his pride. He knows he's clever. He knows that he's prideful, and he's learned humility from his resulting mistakes. One of the things worse than death for a very smart person is humiliation. D knows this from experience, and he aims to give it to Tom in this moment. Tom leaves that fight not having beaten Harry or D, AND everyone discovers he's back, blowing his secretive advantage. Tom was humiliated.
@anoopsrivastava7496
@anoopsrivastava7496 2 жыл бұрын
Albus Dumbledore Is The Greatest Sorcerer In History. No Doubt Tom Wouldn't Stand A Chance!! (Don't Tell Him I Said That!!)
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
Merlin might be better
@emankcin1701
@emankcin1701 2 жыл бұрын
If there were no Horcruxes left, Dumbledore would have toyed with Tom. A humiliating end to the reign of terror.
@lullc2985
@lullc2985 2 жыл бұрын
Dude if Grindelwald couldn't kill Dumbledore with that elder wand as we saw in Fantastic beasts 3, I bet Voldemort couldn't stand any chance, he would be 10 times down than Grindelwald, he didn't even use elder wand and his dark skills wouldn't beat Dumbledore like legit❗☝️, Dumbledore is too talented, and have lots of experiences.
@isaackim7675
@isaackim7675 2 жыл бұрын
Voldemort wouldn’t have stood a chance against the middle aged version of Dumbledore
@RandomMusingsOfLowMelanin
@RandomMusingsOfLowMelanin 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, even in old age, dumbledore would have walked over voldi Dumbledore is more than 150years old , voldi is barely 60 Its like when frieza had a new body and rushed to fight goku
@austinthrasher6116
@austinthrasher6116 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomMusingsOfLowMelanin Dumbledore was 115 or 116 at the time of his death.
@nemanjamanutd
@nemanjamanutd 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomMusingsOfLowMelanin dumbledore was born in the late 1800 between 1885 and 1895.
@TheHappyPotatoe
@TheHappyPotatoe 2 жыл бұрын
Because dumbledore is too strong and experienced for riddle to be able to in his prime dumbledore would have wiped the floor with him, quite literally giving the floor a nice shine afterwards
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 Ай бұрын
This WAS prime Dumbledore Magic doesn't get weaker with age, powerful wizards are usually depicted with white long beards He isnt wiping anything, Voldemort was stronger than Grindelwald canonically and he was relatively on par with Albus Stop hyping Dumbledore
@johndavis3894
@johndavis3894 Жыл бұрын
Fawkes has a special connection to Dumbledore. It is theorized that Dumbledore may even have inadvertently created a horocrux out of Fawkes via his sister. Either way Fawkes seems to be an extention of Dumbledore, so I think it doesn't disqualify him in any wins.
@PaTrick-cf6ev
@PaTrick-cf6ev Жыл бұрын
Rowling's gonna read this and go yeah, I like that, that can be😂
@nathanstewart3329
@nathanstewart3329 Жыл бұрын
I think he has to have intent to make a horcrux though
@lxena8033
@lxena8033 10 ай бұрын
​@@PaTrick-cf6evRowling has seen that theory, and was far from impressed by it. In fact she said it upset her that people would even think of Dumbledore would actually think of doing this.
@aidenharper6013
@aidenharper6013 10 ай бұрын
​@@lxena8033which just made her more unlikeable since the entire theory was based around him accidentally doing it out of love, thus creating something completely different to a normal Horcrux which is made purposely out of fear.
@lxena8033
@lxena8033 7 ай бұрын
@@aidenharper6013 : Do you have any idea how a horcrux is actually made?
@christiankoll1528
@christiankoll1528 6 ай бұрын
I actually like Dumbledore carrying himself like he's not worried about dueling Voldemort. Through the whole series, you feel like although Harry is in danger, as long as Dumbledore is around, he'll probably be OK. Which makes his eventual death that much more impactful, no more safety net.
@pailhorsegaming6762
@pailhorsegaming6762 Жыл бұрын
Book Dumbledore is the Dumbledore from the first two movies. I wish we’d seen more of that actor.
@robinacosta8815
@robinacosta8815 Жыл бұрын
Its too late for that line of thinking.
@risingsun4
@risingsun4 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it. Thank you. Richard Harris will always be the one and only Dumbledore
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel 10 ай бұрын
RIP Richard Harris
@solesurvivor1142
@solesurvivor1142 10 ай бұрын
I like the first two movies Dumbledore. But I think he seemed genuinely old as if he wouldn't have been able to do scenes like the one in order of the phoenix
@risingsun4
@risingsun4 10 ай бұрын
@solesurvivor1142 anyone who claims Richard Harris's Dumbledore looked "genuinely old" and weak has no idea about acting or cinema and dont deserve to call themself knowledgeable, unless if they r a child. Gambon's Dumbledore, HE looked like an old man and not in the slightest does he pass as the Dumbledore from the HP franchise, the powerful leader and figure of significance that has been pulling the strings all along
@FrostDJakki3529
@FrostDJakki3529 2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend getting the Stephen Fry audio books for Harry Potter best purchases I've ever made in my life. He is an amazing narrator.
@Tick421
@Tick421 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that was a thing!
@Karol-ei1fc
@Karol-ei1fc 2 жыл бұрын
On which platform are they available?
@FrostDJakki3529
@FrostDJakki3529 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karol-ei1fc platform? i wouldn't know. i have them on tapes i got them before platforms were a thing 😂
@slavicempress
@slavicempress 4 ай бұрын
​@@Karol-ei1fcI'm listening to them on Storytel the monthly subscription is peanuts
@pendragon2012
@pendragon2012 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore's such a badass in this scene in the book. The movie kind of ruined it. The dialogue also reinforces (it's even the chapter title) why Dumbledore is the only one Voldemort is afraid of. You can tell the people who either only watched the movies or watched the movies first because they tend to think Dumbledore is kind of useless.
@sajjadariff2365
@sajjadariff2365 2 жыл бұрын
hey Adam yes absolutely right
@daylanbrawley631
@daylanbrawley631 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m different from the masses but I saw movie dumbledore absolutely handle Tom. Tom had to resort to possessing Harry THEN ran at the end. Plus I came from the world of anime where the old and very young tend to be overpowered lol
@willysnipes7004
@willysnipes7004 Жыл бұрын
Idk, I kind of like the idea of the movies never really needing to show or explain how much Voldemort is afraid of Dumbledore. The books kinda have to cause, well, they’re books. It’s easier to explain emotion and feeling through dialogue and over the top scene description since all you have are words and paper. Voldemorts fear has already been so implied. Michael Gambon’s Dumbledore had such an intimidating presence, especially when he first shows up at the Ministry. With one line he proved he wasn’t afraid of him. And then, to me, Voldemort threw some of his best stuff at him, and Dumbledore not only blocked a seemingly unblockable curse, he stopped all of it with relative ease, and Voldys fright could be seen all over his face, no words necessary besides “…oh”. The books Dumbledore kinda made it feel like he could just, blink or fart, and save the world. Then again Im maybe just more of a cinematic guy, and we can all agree the cinematography of the movie scene was fantastic. Maybe Richard Harris’ Dumbledore would have worked well being closer to the book with more dialogue, but Gambon’s version was brooding, a show of force was the right move for him
@r00234
@r00234 Жыл бұрын
Never read the books, and I find Dumbledore far from useless. Maybe I'm an outlier, because I do love hearing about the books, just never cared to sit down and read that much. I fully subscribe to the idea/fact that Harry nearly completely ruined Dumbledore's plans several times over by being a dumb kid and nearly getting himself killed every book. Without Dumbledore, Harry would have probably died a pointless death or if he did manage to survive, simply spend his days in hiding as Voldemort took over the world.
@TheSilverwing999
@TheSilverwing999 4 ай бұрын
​@@r00234 Ignorant take
@joshuaaustin2250
@joshuaaustin2250 5 ай бұрын
My problem with the film’s Dumbledore is that you can clearly tell that the actor did not read the books and did not really understand the character. That can clearly be seen during the scene when the divination teacher gets fired. Instead of remaining calm, he gets angry. After the first two movies, they started straying further and further away from the source material.
@jamescastle90
@jamescastle90 4 ай бұрын
Totally. Dumbledore is supposed to be polite, cool and collected. The actor was too mean and angry throughout the movie series. Dumbledore would never grab Harry by the collar and scream, " DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?!" Like... You know he didn't Albus.
@stephen-dfc
@stephen-dfc 4 ай бұрын
You need to remember it’s not just the actors job to portray the character correctly, if anything it’s MORE the directors role to ensure the actors represent them all properly. Gambon likely did as he was told, and they probably felt him being more dramatic made for more exciting cinema to watch.
@jamesstock7440
@jamesstock7440 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that Rowling didn't write the film's script and also didn't reveal the secrets of the later books to Knowles or anyone else. Thus the scriptwriter didn't know of the Elderwand subplot and the true extent of Dumbledore's power. Additionally Albus knew from the prophecy that it was not in his remit to defeat Voldemort.
@whysrumgone
@whysrumgone 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real here, there is no elder wand subplot before the 7th book. At no point in any of the previous books is attention drawn to Dumbledore's wand, nor any other wand (substantively) other than Harry's and Voldemort's. She came up with the Hallows for the 7th books and has retconned their relevance on Pottermroe and twitter. That Harry's cloak is notably better than others, qnd that Dumbledore had it (possibly to study, though that may have been revealed in the last book too) is as close as she come to bringing up the Hallows.
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
I dont buy the prophecy plot device. Lets be real, If voldy was the mustache man who started ww2, and you had the ability to kill him, would you not do it because of some riddle of a prophecy that said you weren't the chosen one?
@GabrielPassarelliG
@GabrielPassarelliG Жыл бұрын
@@falseprophet1024 Dumbledore needed Voldemort alive to kill Harry AFTER the destruction of the other Horcruxes. He himself started looking for them, but after the ring's curse, he needed to teach Harry what was needed, because he would certainly die before. As Snape says while confronting him. He raised Harry to be slain in the proper time. He didn't know for certain if Harry would be back alive, but he did know that Voldemort should've been the one to kill him. Also, Dumbledore even says that who made the profecy true was Voldemort himself, when tried to kill Harry that night. But as the profecy was stablished, then Voldemort would be defeated by Harry, and any try to do it in any other way could have potentially gone wrong or have had unexpected consequences.
@GabrielPassarelliG
@GabrielPassarelliG Жыл бұрын
@@falseprophet1024 Also, killing Hitler would not certainly stop nazism. He was an idea, so the right way of doing it was to supress him to show that, no matter how big is your army, no matter how confident you are, we will win and you will be ashamed. The suicide was the best way of disbanding the army trust in its leader, and the best way of showing the world that not only he was weak, but also that the ones opposing him were not merciless. What I'm trying to say is that not everything gets resolved by simple killing or by targeting the main problem. In many cases, what makes the main problem big is exacty what lingers after such simple solutions. And if there are forces around wanting to support a model like that, then to disrupt that will is the most important thing to avoid the history to repeat itself.
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielPassarelliG Meh, thats a weak reason. Dumbeldore let hundred of innocent people be killed by voldy so he could potentially save Harry? In regards to the mustache man, you have a point, but it doesnt really apply here. You had 10 years with no voldy and nobody picked up the mantle. There was no Himler or Goerbels to step in for voldy..
@kellysouter4381
@kellysouter4381 2 жыл бұрын
It just wasn't the right time yet. They both play 4d chess. I thought Fawkes jumped in without Dumbledore's say so, solely because he loved his owner.
@andyscorer6723
@andyscorer6723 2 жыл бұрын
Adds another dimension to the dialogue about death, Tom's weakness, the fear of death, allies from fear and respect of power rather than love and respect of character. I think it for-shadows (or explains before they are introduced into the story) the horcruxes as a weakness (albeit also dark lord major strength) and that after death scene of that pitiful, weak, remnant thing that was Tom / Voldemort. I confess I speculate that J K Rowling took on board ideas of J R R Tolkien and C S Lewis about "True Myth" and the appeal to us of myths that contain elements similar to the story of Jesus Christ when planning and writing the overall story.
@nocturnalverse5739
@nocturnalverse5739 6 ай бұрын
Book description sounds like a proper wizard battle as opposed to two people flailing clumsy weapons about.
@Niaandrea7812
@Niaandrea7812 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure he needed Fawkes. I think that maybe Dumbledore bought Fawkes on purpose either way (how would the bird have got their in time) and that was the easiest way for Dumbledore to block the attack in that moment. Just a personal interpretation but it seems to me that Dumbledore let Fawkes take the hit and just let it happen. Considering the ease with which he blocked all the other killing curses, I think that he probably could have managed either way. Guess we'll never know!
@Pinkstars1605
@Pinkstars1605 2 жыл бұрын
In the same book Fawkes was used by dumbledore as a portkey when he was escaping from the officials trying to send him to prison, so I can only assume he bought Fawkes along incase he had to make a hasty escape.
@TyogerYT
@TyogerYT 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that he used fawks to show Tom that Death isn't the end of all beeing and nothing that he be feared about, a Phoenix is the perfect example in this place
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 2 жыл бұрын
@@TyogerYT cool! I like that explanation the best.
@woodstock7799
@woodstock7799 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be tha Fawkes does what he wants to do and is not a pet to Dumbeldore... has hes own will and motivation?
@TyogerYT
@TyogerYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodstock7799 ok yeah, we are on 2022 an everyone can do what he want and even a pet doesn't has to serve his master, I mean the basilisk was just snaking around (pun intended) and wanted to make eye contact do build up relationships with humans and he was just a very sad snake
@sbeaber
@sbeaber Жыл бұрын
That's the thing. People who fear death above all rarely can test themselves to the max if they can't point it all on the line. Dumbledore isn't afraid to die. Not afraid to sacrifice himself if it'll give him the ultimate victory in the end.
@YaBoiJeffe
@YaBoiJeffe Жыл бұрын
I think Fawkes was written in because of Tom's fear of death and his loneliness Fawkes died and was reborn. He also took a bullet willingly. Self sacrifice and martyrdom create immortality. Who would do that for Voldemort? Without being forced? He's still trying to help Voldemort. To teach him, and ultimately save him. Edit: by recognizing his mistake and having remorse Dumbledore has the elder wand, that's a special circumstance so it can make sense to deflect killing cutse
@RurouniSanj
@RurouniSanj Жыл бұрын
Well said. Having remorse is also the only other way that a Horcrux can be destroyed as well, unfortunately, Voldemort is totally incapable of that.
@rustydaboyrobot
@rustydaboyrobot 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your comments ...except for Fawkes indicating Dumbledore as the loser. He brought Fawkes with him for such a need, and was ready for the snake...letting Fawkes deal with the curse. The REAL indication of the losing wizard is the moment the duel stops....when Voldemort possesses Harry. He could not use DIRECT means to defeat Dumbledore...so he chose an indirect route...to defeat Harry. And that also failed. So Voldemort lost twice... And while I think it was not possible for Dumbledore to WIN, he certainly didnt lose.
@emankcin1701
@emankcin1701 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore should have went for the snake. This would have not exposed his knowledge of the Horcruxes.
@jaysnow701
@jaysnow701 2 жыл бұрын
@@emankcin1701 not sure where that came from. But, i do not think Dumbledore would want to destroy Nagini, Voldemort may have chosen to just make another horcrux.
@cityrat3237
@cityrat3237 Жыл бұрын
Yeah a true powerful wizard is smart and PREPARED. Dumbeldor came prepared for the battle that makes him a better wizard already
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements Жыл бұрын
@@jaysnow701 I don't think he could have, maybe he had no more of his soul to split.
@HopeGamingforIdleGames
@HopeGamingforIdleGames Жыл бұрын
agreed, all is the headmaster plan. Fawkes will always reborn by the way. 😌
@Philtopy
@Philtopy 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore didnt want to kill Voldemort because the Horcruxes would have prevented it anyways. So his plan obviously was to either delay Voldemort until he would get encircled by the Aurors, or to actively incapacitate him himself to then capture him and make Voldi feel what true horror actually is.
@conors4430
@conors4430 Жыл бұрын
I wondered this as well but considering what you find out in book 6 and seven about Voldemort‘s past encounters with Dumbledore. I think the other big factor is that Dumbledore is completely inside Voldemort‘s head. Even as a child, Dumbledore new what riddle was up to in ways that riddle never fully understood, same as an adult. Dumbledore always tends to know who Voldemort is travelling with, and how he tix. So I think the book implies that Dumbledore has this psychological edge over Voldemort because Voldemort is only wary around Dumbledore. And he never fully grasp how Dumbledore actually knows what he knows about the way riddle operates. Dumbledore clearly knows things that Voldemort doesn’t, and Voldemort fundamentally doesn’t know how Dumbledore has this power. That’s my take on it. Voldemort never moved past being the little weirdo kid that got up to no good and Dumbledore always seemed to know what was going on. This makes Dumbledore a complete unknown entity in many ways as far as Voldemort is concerned, which probably makes him behave differently than he would with anybody else. To a lesser extent it even happens with Harry and Voldemort, Voldemort just doesn’t understand why he can’t kill him, so he sends other people to do it for him until he can figure out why. As Dumbledore says to him “the fact that he can’t consider anything worse than death is actually one of Voldemort‘s weaknesses because it makes him blind to lots of other things that may be just as powerful which he completely disregards.
@dallasstephens4138
@dallasstephens4138 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best notion is to not think of the elder wand as a be-all-end-all…it is powerful yes but it is also a placebo. If you think you are the most powerful with the wand then it shows that you could be. But dumbledore was the most powerful so why would it make a difference…”the wand chooses the wizard” doesn’t mean it can’t go another way…damn that was a rant that I hope makes sense
@nemanjamanutd
@nemanjamanutd 2 жыл бұрын
well in the book it is explained that The Elder Wand would switch allegiance if the more powerful wizard came along . So either Elder Wand behaved as a regular wand(with no boost of power ) if it sensed that Voldemort might be more powerful or it didnt sense that Voldemort was more powerful . Either way Voldemort couldnt beat Dumbledore . It has been said about Grindelwald and Dumbledore duel that The Elder Wand suppressed its power because it felt that Dumbledore might have been stronger and it wanted to see who was actually a more powerful wizard and who would win on pure merit , without the aid of extra power of The Elder Wand .
@audaxity3988
@audaxity3988 2 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate your videos there the closest thing to a new harry potter movie/book
@FFGuy-eu7hr
@FFGuy-eu7hr 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point about the movie being confusing with Dumbeldore being able to block the killing curse with his magic. Maybe they decided to add to movie canon that Dumbeldore found a way to block it with the Elder Wand?
@harrypotterfan2536
@harrypotterfan2536 2 жыл бұрын
It was even blocked in Secrets of Dumbledore-before Albus even got the Elder Wand. It doesn't make much sense.
@mahadlodhi
@mahadlodhi 2 жыл бұрын
So apparently, Harry's fame as to the only person ever to have survived the killing curse was completely unfounded. Or maybe ppl in Britain never got to fully know wht happened in Bhutan
@timonkokalj5911
@timonkokalj5911 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha good one
@VincentWeasleyPotter
@VincentWeasleyPotter 2 жыл бұрын
Loving all the new videos. I do believe however that the true reason Dumbeldore did not show any fear of death when facing Lord Voldemort in the atrium of the ministry was the fact that he had mastered his acceptance of it. Like a samurai "the way of the warrior" knowing he had done his duty in protecting Harry & understanding that his life was merely a pawn in service of the greater good he faced his fate willingly. As you know; 'To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.'
@thebatmary5954
@thebatmary5954 2 жыл бұрын
“TOM, DID YOU PUT YAH NAME IN THE GOBELT OF FIYAAAAAHHHHHH????!!!!” Dumbledore said calmly.
@sca6769
@sca6769 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your comparisons between the book and film.
@Huskytabby
@Huskytabby 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
@wherami
@wherami 2 жыл бұрын
The book was far superior especially here. This should have been a yoda battle type fight lol
@Queen_Kellz_1120
@Queen_Kellz_1120 2 жыл бұрын
I always said there's certain parts of the book that should of most definitely be in the movies, like the duel between Harry & Voldemort ... The book was soooo much better than what the movie showed
@Woody-fv7uu
@Woody-fv7uu Жыл бұрын
Yoda got owned when he was facing his evil equivalent.
@piipiipoopoo520
@piipiipoopoo520 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video man😁👍🏼🤘🏼
@hananiatacorelis2152
@hananiatacorelis2152 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more such book to film scene comparison stuff
@danielpickton-allen8385
@danielpickton-allen8385 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fight from the book would have worked on screen. There’s more going on and it would be more visually interesting and maybe forestall the endless dull stalemate duels of the later films. There are snakes, transfiguration of the fountain, fire, shields, Fawkes and more. You also miss Dumbledore arriving in the death chamber “framed in the doorway from the brain room” which I’m almost glad is still how I originally imagined it in my head. The immensely scary, powerful, silently furious Dumbledore that is “the only one he ever feared” of the books is never really shown. Film Dumbledore is weaker and less agile. The rest of the department of mysteries would have also been amazing to see on screen, but I’m also kind of glad that that’s still exactly as I originally imagined it. Brains attacking Ron, the spinning room, the bell jar of time, the room that can’t be opened that contains a force (love) that melts Harry’s knife given to him by Sirius. Sirius laughing at belatrix, Lupin explaining to Harry that sirius is dead (not clearly hit by Avada kedavera in book, it’s just Belatrix’s “spell”). It’s a lot of great action that would have been a suspenseful (though in need of adaptation of course) ending. This is a shame because otherwise I like the film. I like the book too, I know some don’t, but it is very long and there is some that should probably have been lost. I would probably have cut grawp rather than the department of mysteries. Cutting quidditch was a good choice, having Dan Radcliffe assault Tom Felton would have been weird. Hagrid’s mission to the giants is lovely in the book, but you can’t really do story time in a film, but it would be nice to do it somehow (much shorter), would explain where the giants in no. 7ii come from. Generally this combines two of the biggest unfortunate parts about the films; that the climax of no. 5 is rushed, and that Gambon’s Dumbledore is terrible. Stephen Fry’s audiobook Dumbledore is the one for me.
@mage1439
@mage1439 Жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty clear in the book that DD was easily able to handle anything Voldy threw out, and he did it basically off-handedly.
@chareloyele6158
@chareloyele6158 Жыл бұрын
but that’s basically because of the wand not his magic
@darthsampo3022
@darthsampo3022 Жыл бұрын
@@chareloyele6158 its because he is much better wizard than Voldemort
@Definitely_Someone
@Definitely_Someone 5 ай бұрын
@@chareloyele6158 Grindewald had the wand and yet he lost to Dumbledore
@derekjuarez9762
@derekjuarez9762 5 ай бұрын
Dumbledore knew only Harry could kill Voldemort, he was just playing defense trying to get to hold Tom off long enough for the aurors to arrive and see him.
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible job
@Shahrdad
@Shahrdad 2 жыл бұрын
The Phoenix always strikes me as an extension of Dumbledore himself, as the two seem to be inextricably tied together. I see Fawkes and Dumbledore and two parts of the same being.
@fisk7aal
@fisk7aal 2 жыл бұрын
It is a picture of the trinity. Dumbledore in Kings Cross Limbo is the father. The flesh and bone version, that accepts his mortality and acts among men, and chooses to die is the son. The Phoenix is the spirit. After the death of his flesh, the spirit is still with them. It is in the world afterwards, but not in the office. It is out amongst them. I think you can say it is the same.
@ccb2757
@ccb2757 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with u, like a snake is to voldey.
@joshhoffman5233
@joshhoffman5233 2 жыл бұрын
I always saw it that way too. Never really occurred to me that AD didn’t know fawkes would step in. Ideally it wouldn’t have been needed, but I didn’t really see it like fawkes saving him. More like a chess piece AD knew was there the whole time just in case.
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
I like the 'Fawkes was Dumbledore's horcrux' thoery.
@joshhoffman5233
@joshhoffman5233 Жыл бұрын
@@falseprophet1024 not literally though. JKR even said dumbledore would never make a horcrux. Of course the movies are mutilating the cannon so we may discover Voldemort was actually grindelwald’s clone spliced with snake genes
@jonnyogy2872
@jonnyogy2872 Жыл бұрын
Man, Dumbledore was such a powerful, and brilliant wizard.
@beastieber5028
@beastieber5028 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your Chanel
@Zac_Frost
@Zac_Frost Жыл бұрын
The film's way of Dumbledore defending against the Killing Curse works for me, honestly. It's said to be un-blockable, but in Book 7, even when Voldemort isn't using his own Wand, thus removing the special circumstance, Harry's Wand was still able to repel it. So it stands to reason that ramming another Spell into it could "fight" or redirect it. Maybe in the film, Dumbledore is using Expeliarmus or Stupefy (both described as having the color of their energy being red) to "fight" it. I know, the simple explanation is that the CGI department was just reusing the Priori Incantaum effect from Book 4, but as an in-film-universe explanation, it works. Great video, though! Reminds me that I have to go back through these books and films myself again to relive the fun of them!
@Thaetrekid123
@Thaetrekid123 2 жыл бұрын
I love ur vids
@grec.
@grec. Жыл бұрын
Wow. this entire video is so well made. The editing, the book dialogues. The music. Made me revive the battle in an entire new experience combining the book and the film! So amazing! 🙌🔥
@ugochukwuanadyk6954
@ugochukwuanadyk6954 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore defeated an Elder wand wielding Grindelwald. Grindelwald who on his own without the wand was very powerful. If he could do that, Voldemort is nothing to him.
@shaynevaughn3164
@shaynevaughn3164 2 жыл бұрын
That argument can be turned around. Dumbledore.. who defeated Grindelwald and now Dumbledore has the elder wand couldn't defeat Voldemort. Lol however Dumbledore was older when he fought Voldemort and not in his prime. I think Dumbledore was the most powerful but I think Voldemort was more powerful than Grindelwald
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynevaughn3164 well there would have been no point as Voldemort had the horcruxes and would just come back
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynevaughn3164 so if dumbledore could have killed Voldemort, it would’ve been pointless
@shaynevaughn3164
@shaynevaughn3164 2 жыл бұрын
Well Voldemort had horcruxes when he ran into Harry as a baby didn't he? Yes presumably he would come back quicker than he did before but it would be easier to hunt horcruxes when Voldemort was weakened. Don't forget the people that helped restore Voldemort were scared of him, many followers didn't try to bring him back, and not many knew of the horcruxes
@shaynevaughn3164
@shaynevaughn3164 2 жыл бұрын
While I do think Dumbledore would win, don't forget Voldemort dueled Kingsley, McGonagall, and slughorn at the same time so it wouldn't easy
@michaelruss8553
@michaelruss8553 2 жыл бұрын
The book shows Dumbledore has friends that care for him, to step in front and take the hit. V has no one.
@LordKeram
@LordKeram Жыл бұрын
While I get why they wanted to show Dumbledore as weaker than in the books, they might have missed an opportunity with this one. If anyone knows the anime OnePunch man it perfectly utilizes this sort of narrative setup. The main hero of that story is all powerful, being able to defeat anyone with 1 punch. Yet the stakes in that story are still great, because that is certainly not the case for all of the other heroes. I think if they showed how powerful Dumbledore actually is at the end of the 5th movie, they could have setup even better how big of a deal it is that he dies by the end of the 6th movie and that he is significantly weakened throughout Half blood prince. Dumbledore was the one person Voldemort feared. Despite what he might want you to believe, he did fear him up until the very end.
@Queen_Kellz_1120
@Queen_Kellz_1120 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Can't wait for your take 💜 Dumbledore was always the one Voldemort was scared of ... I have always wondered why the horicrux didn't react to Voldemort possessing Harry
@luisbetances6648
@luisbetances6648 11 ай бұрын
because voldemort's soul was unstable and insensitive to himself, he only knew that harry was chasing the hucruxs when he stole hufflepuff's cup.
@andrewfarres4490
@andrewfarres4490 6 ай бұрын
I felt that Dumbledore's confidence was warranted, I don't feel Dumbledore didn't see Voldemort as a threat up until he had vanished. He knew Harry was his target then and feared for him. I know some people see Fawkes saving him as he would have lost if......But Dumbledore knew he had his Phoenix to protect him and knew head to head Voldemort wasn't a match for him. Also, this scene in the book made it that much more shocking and hurtful for me when Dumbledore died because at that moment Harry's last defense against Voldemort was gone, the most powerful Wizard to have ever lived in the century was gone. It also made the last fight scene in the book for me that much more exciting cause I felt Harry was just as confident as Dumbledore was in this fight.
@marcpasquinelli2548
@marcpasquinelli2548 2 жыл бұрын
What WAS that spell that produced the gong-like note? I've read many theories but I've not been able to find anything conclusive.
@mrkuchen9941
@mrkuchen9941 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should have gone more like the books in anime i love seeing the protagonist overpowering an enemy showing of and maybe humiliating his enemy
@firet101
@firet101 Жыл бұрын
I was always unhappy that they admitted the dialogue as I felt it was the dialogue that was the true battle far more than the magic being thrown at each other
@Joshivr
@Joshivr Жыл бұрын
I always believed that Dumbledore had a certain connection with Fawkes, so he knew Fawkes was there to save him from the killing curse. Otherwise he would’ve either apparated somewhere else or conjure another statue (or object) to shield him. There’s no way Dumbledore would leave that up to chance, as it wouldn’t fit with his behavior during that duel. He was the greatest wizard of his time for a very good reason. I also don’t believe that the Elder wand made a big difference during the duel. Sure, it gave Dumbledore’s power a little boost, but with his exceptional skill and abilities he didn’t need that to duel Voldemort to a stalemate.
@Ozzywozzy
@Ozzywozzy 6 ай бұрын
I do wish this duel was longer.
@BugsISKing
@BugsISKing 2 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred the movies version of the bravery quote, honestly. "It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to your friends."
@nathanappleby5342
@nathanappleby5342 2 жыл бұрын
Despite old age, Dumbledore, in both versions, that he truly is a great wizard. The case was the same in both versions, to keep Harry protected and Voldemort busy long enough for the aurors to arrive that Voldemort had in fact returned and thus prove to everybody what he and Harry had been saying of them the past year. I like how in the aftermath Dumbledore starts giving orders to the Minister of Magic himself to correct everything that been happening to Harry and the school since the start of the year.
@omegatired
@omegatired 2 жыл бұрын
They sort of left a lot of things out of the final four movies ... because there are a lot of things I would have liked to see in t hem. Like Firenze teaching divination.
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements Жыл бұрын
I hope we see Dumbledore go all out in the next fantastic beasts movies, or at least in his final duel with Grindelwald. Because we have never seen him at full power, and if they do make the first wizarding War movies I hope we see Dumbledore in action while using the elder wand.
@clfoster82
@clfoster82 2 жыл бұрын
Just because he may have needed Fawkes doesn't mean he was the "loser" though. He used the statues to block the other killing curses and that didn't make him the loser, right? Whether he can communicate with Fawkes and he asked the bird to do it, or the bird did it on his own, it doesn't matter. He's a phoenix so it doesn't truly kill him, just like it didn't kill a statue that wasn't really alive to begin with. Seems like a rather silly conclusion to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@headstrongbachelor3152
@headstrongbachelor3152 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore is the loser because it was a position where he either would be hit by the killing curse or the snake. Voldemort attacked him from 2 sides.
@clfoster82
@clfoster82 2 жыл бұрын
Or he's not cause he deflected both
@fogell_mclovin8252
@fogell_mclovin8252 2 жыл бұрын
​@@headstrongbachelor3152 Your acting like there are only 2 sides of Dumbledore. There are the right and left sides where he could have escaped from. Even when he came back to full strength he still couldn't kill a 150 year old man, even with all that dark art knowledge
@headstrongbachelor3152
@headstrongbachelor3152 2 жыл бұрын
@@fogell_mclovin8252 And you have not read the books but speak BS to avoid the terrible truth that Voldemort almost killed Dumbledore...
@fogell_mclovin8252
@fogell_mclovin8252 2 жыл бұрын
@@headstrongbachelor3152 Your speaking about almost. When even Voldemort acknowledged that Dumbledore was not trying to kill him, and he still couldn’t kill the man who wasn’t fighting to kill. You are going of almost and it nearly happened. Dumbledore almost drowned Voldemort, had he not ran off. It clear to me you have read the book, but your interpretation skills are non existent.
@omigawdd
@omigawdd 2 жыл бұрын
Literally one minute and I'm still not the first comment. Haha. You've got a huge following. Love the content. 💛
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing 🤩
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
For the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee starting tomorrow, can you please do a video on if Her Majesty the Queen knows about the wizarding world?
@apekshyaparajuli7567
@apekshyaparajuli7567 2 жыл бұрын
This idea is so so good… I still feel JK is reeta skeeter. I think she got cursed so she has started forgetting her experience in the wizarding world which has brought inconsistencies in FB movies
@likenot3073
@likenot3073 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would make sense for dumbledore to have heroic entrance where he demolishes Voldemort completely, as I believe in 3rd movie it was stated by Ron that Hogwart is safe because Dumbledore is there. Then after Dumbledore's death it would make much more sense that everything became so grimm that Hogwart got overtaken completely.
@DBLCreations
@DBLCreations Жыл бұрын
Honestly, i feel that, with every year that has been passing. More and more plot holes are in the HP magic. Though when i think about how Dumbledore could have blocked the AK curse within the "special" circumstances. Might be because Dumbledore had the Elder Wand. I do think that the fact that the AK curse is described in HP as unstoppable, isn't really that great to be honest. I mean there is magic in this world. Surely after all this time, someone would've found or studied the curse to find a spell, or some kind of shield that comes out of the wand (like the special silver shield from Voldemort) to block/stop it. I just can't believe that Dumbledore wouldn't know this kind of defense. For more than one reason. He actually experienced a bit off both sides. Dark and light. Further more, i do agree. I would've actually liked seeing Dumbledore just taking on Voldemort very calmly, speak to him as a "normal" human. It would make Voldemort make more human which is what the producers wanted. (That's the reason they didn't give him red eyes.) To humanize him more which would make him more scary. At least, that's what i remember from the interview! Anyway, both wizards are very powerful and interesting in their own way!
@eranshachar9954
@eranshachar9954 2 жыл бұрын
Great video first of all, unnamed channel owner. Now don't get me wrong, the duel on the film is fantastic but I like the book version more. In the book it was much longer than 2 and a half minutes give or take on screen. But I understand them really, because they wanted to express an idea and that was it. They couldn't translate an entire book fight to screen, because it would have been too long in already a long film. If both fought to the death, it could have gone either way although Albus was of course stronger. Sometimes it depends on the right momentum, just like David and Goliat. A miracle and wisdom gave David a victory, so maybe Voldemort could have won if he was smart enough to recognize one moment. Same goes for Molly vs. Bellatrix it was clear which women was superior, and the superior one lost her life. I was happy to read and see the death of both Bellatrix and Voldemort.
@bjorn3740
@bjorn3740 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore and Voldemort in the books: Having a full conversation about their different understandings of death. Dumbledore and Voldemort in the movies: "NYUH"
@jfrog779
@jfrog779 Жыл бұрын
The book portrayed this scene so much better. I remember asking myself why doesn't Dumbledore just kill him and it wasn't until the end I found out why. I also liked the book better when it came to Half Blood Prince when Dumbledore had to cast a spell on Harry to keep him from intervening on his death because he knew Harry would try and save him.
@hansbystrom9983
@hansbystrom9983 6 ай бұрын
That entire book was the best of the series. When the teenagers+OthP are losing to the death eaters, Dumbledore shows up with a white and furious face, giving Harry an electrical surge of hope. After dealing with all the death eaters (except Bellatrix who managed to kill off Sirious before fleeing from Dumbledore) he walks into the Voldemort duel with no cares of fears. Absolute legend.
@matthewdale3366
@matthewdale3366 6 ай бұрын
When a video is at the top of your feed and u dont realize it's a year old till u read the comments
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@adib3011
@adib3011 2 жыл бұрын
The movie has a shocking lack of transfiguration magic, especially considering it is considered the most dangerous and powerful branch of magic. Regarding the double attack from the snake and killing curse, I agree with u that it had cornered Dumbledore slightly. But we had seen earlier that he could use apparition there. So it wasn't that hard to just get out of the way. He probably used Fawkes interference as an opportunity to shift into the counterattack. After all, just like voldy uses snakes, Dumbledore can use his pet too considering he is immortal.
@gewoonik687
@gewoonik687 Жыл бұрын
When the Harry potter movies where made, 3D modelling was still very time consuming and expensive. That's why they opted for flashy acting and light effects rather than 3D modeling statues and creatures. It's the same reason they tried to reduce the amount of magical creatures and the screen time they gave them. Events in the 4th and 5th book Vs movie where especially where effected by this.
@ChieffySZN
@ChieffySZN 2 жыл бұрын
I read a bit a dialogue in a fanfic once about Harry describing this duel to sirius(Sirius survived in this fic), and Sirius barks in laughter before, “That’s what you get when two show offs duel. They make a spectacle of the whole thing”
@VFAHSN
@VFAHSN 5 ай бұрын
“…and you’ll be dead.” “Shut up, Tom.” said Dumbledore calmly.
@MattWells0
@MattWells0 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't though along these lines before but your comment about how Dumbledore could use any spell to block Ava Kedavra. Given that the only know official way to block the killing curse is sacroficial love, it stands to reason that there may be other ways around it, after all who would be willing to try blocking a spell that would probably kill them? It seems reasonable to me that the Elder Wand, being a Deahtly Hallow created by Death, said to make the wielder unbeatedable, that it would be capable of blocking any spell including Ava Kedavra. I also think that it is likely that the Invisible Cloak would also would also likely block the killing curse; while Harry, Ron and Hermione were visiting Xenophilius Lovegood he described it as "giving constant and impenetrable concealment, no matter what spells are cast at it." I also feel that it wouldn't be stretch to think that the Resurrection Stone may also be able to block the killing curse. If you had summoned someone who had died, it is likely that this "spirit" version could block the spell and since they are already dead wouldn't be able to die again. Perhaps you might need to summon them again...
@paulgraf5746
@paulgraf5746 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people always think that high age is equal to being out of prime? I’m pretty sure that’s not how the wizarding world works. Experience and knowledge is clearly more important than having slightly faster reflexes. The physical condition doesn’t matter too much as long as you can move around and swing your wand. I’m pretty sure Dumbledore is actually in his prime here, he only got weakened from the event in the half blood prince. That being said, you can well argue that Dumbledore only dominated the duel and stood his ground because he had the elder wand.
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The fact that the Elder Wand served him, and didnt abandon him for Voldy, demonstrates he was the more powerful (or worthy) master. Im pretty sure thats how the elder wand worked.
@paulgraf5746
@paulgraf5746 Жыл бұрын
@@falseprophet1024 that makes no sense. The wand does not shift allegience in the middle of the duel, you have to beat or disarm the owner first. Harry vs Voldemort was special because the wand already belonged to Harry before the duel even started
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
@@paulgraf5746 Its impossible to defeat the master of the elder wand, according to the hallows.. and yet, people have lost while using it.. seems strange, right? And, of course, the Elder wand isnt the most loyal, changing its allegiance to the most powerful wizard in a group.. It seems like a loophole in the gift from death. The master of the wand will never lose, but the wand may switch allegiance to the wizard you are fighting, causing you to lose. But since the person that defeated you was the new master of the wand, the master of the wand is still undefeated..
@paulgraf5746
@paulgraf5746 Жыл бұрын
@@falseprophet1024 thats a good theory but for now its just a theory
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 Жыл бұрын
@@paulgraf5746 If you read the elder wood description on the wiki, it implies what im saying pretty heavily, if it doesn't outright say it..
@HeHatesShe
@HeHatesShe 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore had no desire to destroy Tom's current body. A body filed with Harry's blood. A mind consumed with killing the one person he would simply never be able to kill. Dumbledore knew Tom would come back again, and all the work he had put in for the party decade + would be wasted. Dumbledore was also not a young man, so he might not even be alive when Tom did return again.
@memyselfandyouz
@memyselfandyouz 6 ай бұрын
You mention at 8:08 that Dumbledore doesn't use a "Fiery Whip" but at the beginning of their duel, Dumbledore's first move is him whipping his want around his head before he casts and it even makes a "Whip" noise.
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 6 ай бұрын
The mistake started in the 4th movie. (Impostor) Moody very explicitly said avada kedavra is unblockable in the book. The movie also made the priori incantatem effect seem like the most unusual part of Harry and Tom’s wands’ interaction, rather than Harry being able to block the killing curse.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 4 ай бұрын
What he meant is that there's no counter curse, no protection charm that can nullify it like Protego the shield charm ECT. But a physical barrier makes the spell miss basically Even Physical barriers that take the hit are blasted to dust but do "block" the spell in a roundabout way. But anything the spell hits is destroyed
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 4 ай бұрын
@mrdark9916 yes. In any case, that defining property is completely ignored in the movies. Instead, we get beam locks ala Godzilla.
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 4 ай бұрын
@@Th0ughtf0rce true that lol
@meannoharm1561
@meannoharm1561 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore is the best wizard ever.
@davidvenegas6401
@davidvenegas6401 Жыл бұрын
That scene was badass. When Voldy screams and shatters the glass then Dumbledore does the water orb protection.
@lesliebrown5721
@lesliebrown5721 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos thank you so much for putting so much hard work and time into them to entertain us. I pray that there will always be a KZfaqr who discuss Harry Potter and Game of Thrones. It will be a very sad day for me when there is no longer any discussion about these amazing books but I highly doubt that will ever happen because I know as a 32-year-old that I will be reading my children the Harry Potter books just like a lot of other now parents who grew up reading Harry Potter are introducing it to their children. I am going to read my children the books in order for example when they are 11 I will start with book one when they are 12 I will read them chamber of secrets etc. The books do get pretty dark and graphic and violent and I think JK Rowling did a very good job making the books developmentally appropriate for children as well as teenagers and adults as they progressed along. I was fortunate that every year a new book came out. I started reading them when I was 11 and went to Barnes & Noble at midnight every time the new Harry Potter book was coming out. The books do get pretty dark so I think children need to read them at an appropriate age that way they will relate to the characters and it will not be too dark or scary for them to digest. There are so many adult Harry Potter fans out there that I don't think it will be going away for a long time. I really think that in my lifetime they will be making a TV show like Game of Thrones redoing the Harry Potter book series. I think this would be amazing because they would have much more time to add in things that they left out of the movies that were in the books that were incredibly important for the reader to understand the story in it's entirety. I think we all would love to see a show based off of the Harry Potter books. The only hard part about that is I can never imagine another actor playing Hagrid or McGonagall or Snape. I thought it was a travesty when they replaced Dumbledore I know they had to because he unfortunately passed away however they picked somebody that didn't even bother to read the books to get an idea of what dumbledore's character is like and trust me he is one of a kind. This is ridiculous if you are going to play a part that is based off of a book character read the books is that not common sense. Maybe if he did he wouldn't have made the absolute blunder of yelling at Harry "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire" I thought the first Dumbledore was so perfect. That actor actually read the books and he embodyed everything I imagine dumbledore to be. Softspoken, very intelligent but only intimidating when he had to be. There are also a few other characters who just match the parts perfectly. It's very rare when you get a movie based off of a book and the actors actually look how they do in your head. Grant it there were some actors that I thought were not the best in the movie for example Bonnie Wright playing Jinny Weasley and a couple more like lavender Brown etc. I'm having a hard time thinking of the top of my head right now about the other characters I thought could have been played by a much better suited actor. I just work a 14 hour shift and then went and babysat for another 4 hours and I am having trouble thinking at the moment I know it will come to me eventuality. But come on Lock Heart was beyond perfect. My complaints though would be that all of the Marauder's should have only been in there early to mid-30s and all the actors that played them were clearly in their mid-40s. I could go on and on about the amazing actors like the man who played Lucius Malfoy I can go on on with the amazing actors they chose for the films. However there were some actors that were casted in roles that I was not happy with and did not think they were a good fit. Luckily this is few and far between. My main critique of the movies is that they completely butchered the books. They took out incredibly important information and put in scenes that were not even in the book. The first and second movie were I thought spot on except for a few things that they left out. But then starting with the third movie it started to get incredibly dark like the Battle of winterfell in Game of Thrones and you could barely even see what was going on. The wizarding world to me is supposed to be a colorful and magical place. I understand that they were under threats and had to make it a little more dark but I would actually like to be able to see what is going on in a scene. Also they could have actually put major plot points from the book into the show instead of filling it in with ridiculous things like the boys in the dormitory taking the candies that made them sound like animals and I have a lot of other examples. Also the fourth movie goblet of fire was an atrocity in my opinion as well as the 6th and 7th movie because they did not explain very important information that was in the books. They kind of skimmed over it but clearly they did not do nearly as well as the books or go into-depth like the books do making it all come together in the end and make sense.
@janrudnicki6111
@janrudnicki6111 Жыл бұрын
Very good
@iowaredneck9416
@iowaredneck9416 Жыл бұрын
In the books it clearly defines Voldemorts fear for Dumbledore as well as Dumbledores pitty for Tom not being able to love. I think Fawks dying for Dumbledore it a very important part because it represents the theme that love will triumph over fear and hate
@Weezytecktonik
@Weezytecktonik Жыл бұрын
Avada Kedavra may be unblockable, but let’s not forget that Dumbledore is using the Elder Wand, which is said to be unbeatable in a duel, when you’re it’s master. It’s basically an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. So it kinda makes sense for Dumbledore to block it in the movie
@hansbystrom9983
@hansbystrom9983 6 ай бұрын
Except that the Elder wand doesn't work. It has lost many duels. It's more likely that it just has the ability to detect magical prowess, presenting itself to the strongest wizard.
@winters-ghost89
@winters-ghost89 6 ай бұрын
It is blockable? Just not with spells but u can throw objects
@_Mr.Tuvok_
@_Mr.Tuvok_ Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason I’m so excited for the reboot!
@younggarrett93
@younggarrett93 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Dumbledore's nonchalant attitude is as much about his confidence to beat Voldemort as much as Dumbledore's lack of fear towards death. Even in the book after he's cursed by wearing Slytherin's ring and knows he has less than a year to live, his attitude was still pretty chill, he really didn't seem to care much about dying. I still think he's stronger than Voldemort but I don't think it was by that much.
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