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As much as i cant stand cursed child the fact he made a voldemort day in alternate timeline did make me laugh 😂

Voldemort's arrogance was his own downfall.

Bro couldn’t even invade a high school…😂😂😂😂

But Voldemort would still have to deal with other Wizarding governing bodies and schools throughout the world such as fighting against MACUSA and other groups in France, Bulgaria, Japan, Brazil, Norway, etc. We can't simply equate "The Wizarding World" with just Great Britain and the area Voldemort conquered. Others would rise against Voldemort the oppressor! Lumos wands up!

Upon thinking about it, I don’t think that Voldemort would try to conquer the world. One of his flaws was that while ambitious, he was also somewhat small-minded, as Dumbledore would point out. Recall how fixated he was on Hogwarts, and things that made an impression on him when he was younger and just entering the wizarding world. “That which he does not value, he takes no trouble to comprehend.” I think he would have spent his time building and refining his regime in the UK.

If Voldemort ruthlessly oppressed all of the muggle-born, there would be a huge number of obscuri. their combined force just might upset his reign. And, what happens when it comes to light that Tom Riddle is the child of a muggle and a witch barely better than a squib?

Voldemort: *declares war on Muggles Muggles: Avada Kedavra my tank and my fighter jet please. 👏

He'd make his hehehehe laugh the school's new Anthem

13:13 This is why Voldemort’s reign would be short-lived. All the other magical societies over the world would come after him to prevent him from exposing the wizarding world to the rest of the world.

Didn't Hermione say that she assumes most Death Eaters to be halfbloods? I believe that Voldemort would organize something like this: On top there would be families known to be Pureblood, obviously the surviving ones from the Directory but also the many who protested not being included in It (if they protested I must assume that they 1 have few muggles in the tree and 2 care a lot about blood status and are thus likely to support Voldemort and thus be prized by him with greater power). The most loyal and useful Death Eaters like Snape would gain equal or even greater status even if they were halfbloods. It's unclear to me how many generations of full Wizards you gotta have in the tree to be considered Pureblood, I assume at least all grandparents with none being Muggleborn and maybe not more than one or two being halfblood, because the Malfoy family is said to have halfblood relatives. Below the Purebloods there would be Halfbloods. They wouldn't be mistreated most of the time, being the vast majority, but they wouldn't get to the top of the power unless they proved especially loyal to Voldemort. Marriage with Muggles or Muggleborns would be punished as a Crime Against Wizardkind. This way, Halfbloods would have to marry each other, and thus, overtime, their lines would be pure enough to marry the top powers, and the British magical community would finally become majority Pureblood. It Is mentioned at one point that children of Muggleborns have been separated from their parents by the Registration Commission. I believe they would send this halfblood children to Voldemort-loyal families to be indoctrinated, basically like the Lebensborn Program in Nazi Germany or the child kidnappings in fascist Argentina. Aside from Muggleborns, the prisons and camps would probably be filled with any Muggle present in the community (specifically Muggle parents of Wizards, accused of havibg stolen magic or of having filthed the blood of wizards), as well as Squibbs and anti-Voldemort opposition. Hostile species such as Goblins, Centaurs and Mermaids may well be relocated if not exterminated.

Something about this feels a bit off. Voldemort was described as a brilliant tactician and strategist in the first war because he wasn''t so volatile and desperate yet. The prophecy changed him for the worst. He had so many different people on his side that were steadfastly loyal to him, and I wouldn't be surprised if that did include some muggles. You have to remember, as much as Voldemort puts up a front of blood purity himself, he is at his core a secret halfblood. His followers have no idea who he really is. During the second war he only really went specifically after the halfboods who wronged him, and avoided others unless they got in his way. The ones who were labeled "mudbloods" or muggleborns however were specifically targeted. I think he realized that the blood purity platform was the only way he was actually going to be able to keep his following and gain more in any way, but I'm not sure how much he actually believes in it considering he knows that he-himself is not a pureblood. I don't think he'd go for a pureblood eugenics program knowing what he's a product of. It wouldn't make sense. He's canonically brilliant. He knows the subject matter. It makes no sense. His issue is a mix of his politics and his arrogance. I don't think he'd get far enough to get to a muggle war.

Ooo spooky! Thank you for the theories!

With only 28 pure blood families. There is not enough genetic diversity. Even being incredibly careful. Inbreeding would cause massive issues very quickly.

More please! Part II!!!

But Then how well Voldemort and the Death Eaters Deal with The Ever Advancing Muggle World and the Changes around the World!

A Voldemort with the SAS on his heels would be toast!

If Voldemort won, we would have that dark future scenario of The Cursed Child and nobody wants it.

I would definitely love to see a follow up video to this.

Can you please do a video on Muggle Govt vs Ministry of Magic... How Kingsley worked to coordinate both organizations

Good video! Do you think that the last two parts of the “Fantastic Beasts” franchise will be filmed or completed in the near future?

Great video 👏👏👏

Awesome as always thanks

How would muggles even detect Wizarding citizens realistically if they didn't want to be detected?

Harry's Its a Wonderful Life Arc:

Yes please another video x

I don't think it'd be that simple. For one, Voldemort is known for playing the long game. He wouldn't just throw himself at conflict without an advantage. He's arrogant, for sure, but he's not an idiot. Hell, the only reason the battle of Hogwarts happened in the last book was that he was forced into it by Harry looking for the last Horcrux. He went there unprepared and still would have won had it not been for Harry's sacrifice magically protecting everyone. He wouldn't just do battle with the muggles, he'd slowly overthrown them from the inside like he did with the Ministry of Magic. Furthermore, remember that he had not just wizards at his disposal, but other magical beings and creatures at his disposal. Giants, for one, are incredibly resilient and all but one of them were on his side. Werewolves, acromantulas and pretty much every other dark creature would join him. Goblins might, at best, try to steer away from the conflict, but they might be lured in with the promise of better treatment than what the Ministry gave them. Domestic Elves under Death Eater families would simply not have a choice. The worst of them all, though, would be Dementors. They would all thrive under Voldemort's rule and muggles have simply no way to fight them (even if they could see them, which they cannot). By the time Voldemort took the fight to the muggle world his following would be massive and muggles would be too worried by an unnatural feeling of despair to fight (when they weren't having their souls sucked away by invisible foes). I'm sure there'd be resistance, of course, but I'd bet it'd take a few generations to get any sort of encouraging result. They'd have to be patient as well.

I would of also added Azkaban to this theory too. Imagine Voldemort also turning the prison into his own "Tower of Fear". As much as Azkaban was feared back then...imagine Voldemort taking it over too as like a main base of sorts.

I think the only blood category that Voldy really would want to eradicate would be Muggle borns. As a Half Blood himself, I don't think he would want to eliminate other Half Bloods. Snape, another Half Blood, was kinda like his second in command in the Deathly Hallows and was also named Hogwarts Headmaster, which tends to show that he isn't against the idea of Half Bloods having prestigious positions.

Regarding Voldermort using his own wand while duelling Harry, would that have really made a difference? It seems like Harry willingly letting Voldermort kill him would have still invoked the same magic which his mother used, so it seems like the Battle for Hogwarts became unwinnable for him and his minions so I'd wonder if the Avada Kedavra would have worked at the end.

Does anybody else think that a gun would also work against Voldemort cuz I feel like it would just be a quick simple thing. Maybe if Harry had just brought a gun when he met Voldemort in the last movie I feel like it would have been over a lot quicker.

Voldermort could not expect the bad writing around the Elder Wand. Poor bloke.

Grindelwald nor Voldemort would raise a Dark Army of Dark Wizards and Dark Witches and backed by Dark Creatures/Monsters and attack the Muggle World. They would use Dark Magic to control the minds of key muggle leaders and keep groups of some muggles for dark experiments and dark sacrifices and as lastly Slaves. Those Grindelwald or Voldemort would conquer the muggle world that way.

❤❤❤❤❤ agree on this video mate a good one

I think alot of people over hype muggle Weaponry and heavily underestimate that wizards can also advance, any Weaponry muggles create wizards can also learn and add magical features to what ever Weapons muggles have, cause i mean wizards are indeed humans as well so they too can comprehend the weapons no-majes use but for muggles they can not utilize magic let alone comprehend it, so theyd have to think or work twice as hard to out do wizarding society, and this is just European wizards if Voldemort branched out and gathered sorcerers from all over the planet it would be closed curtain for muggle society and not to mention sorcerers are very capable of Manipulation without even being seen or noticed and then on top of all of that with wizards abilities working far beyond the physical world muggles would most likely think these are "Coincidental Events" and yes muggles may have the numbers however Voldemort Dumbledore or Grindelwald could most definitely take out more than 100 muggles (with weapons) if not thousands, quite easily i mean ive never heard of any muggle weapon going head to head with the forces of natural disasters, natural disasters wizards have at there fingertips, all it honestly takes is for example, lets say we Voldemort Grindelwald and Dumbledore who were putting this together they could spread out every highly capable wizard around the world, cast some type of electromagnetic pulse. And completley shut down majority of muggle Weaponry ORR they could cast some type of geomagnetic spell and cause world wide earthquakes in heavily muggle populated areas,, or conjure hurricanes, typhoons, supercell storms, shoot we already seen the bolt of lightning that filled the sky that was casted by Voldemort alone so🤷🏾‍♂️ but then again the way Voldemort is, alot of people wouldn't help anyway I'm just explaining that wizard kind itself could definitely outdo muggle kind

8:50 is that from Holes starring Shia LaBeouf?

Video idea: could Voldemort and his army ( magical creatures included ) beat the white spikes from the tomorrow war

a animation about the founders and the building of Hogwarts would be cool using what ever knowledge . doubt a movie would be made but still hopeful

One of the Greatest stories to ever be told. I simple just can't get enough of it...

Maybe this is a dumb question but I’ve always wondered what the time line would have been if clear back in the first one Harry takes Draco’s hand instead of telling him off. Would he have gotten in good with the Malfoys and in turn been spared by Voldemort? Or would he have still killed him right when he came back to life. Sorry if this has been talked about before.

This was good.

Yes please let us know what may happen next im this scenario. I really hope it ends with some semblance of peace and cooperation between our people and wizardkind. 🤞 😢❤

I have several issues with this theory. 1. There were always more non-Death Eaters than Death Eaters so despite the power concentration and brutality of the Death Eaters it would have been difficult for them to maintain total control over the population. 2. Voldemort and his Death Eaters were basically only operating in Britain and were drawn from the British Wizarding population. The Sacred 28 for example were the 28 British Wizarding families that had retained their pure blood status. Unless you assume that the global Wizarding population is lower than the Wizarding population of Britain (The Quidditch World Cup crowd would indicate otherwise) there is no reason to expect that Voldemort could conquer anything more than the British Wizarding World by defeating Harry Potter. 3. Thanks to his horcruxes Voldemort was protected from death (though not immortal) and he was not going to share that secret with even his most loyal Death Eaters. He would never have allowed Bellatrix LeStrange to make a horcrux as it would have made her almost as powerful as Voldemort himself and that was not something that he would or could accept. So an international expeditionary force of Aurors and Wizarding Special Forces Commandos could have tracked down Voldemort's Death Eaters and eliminated every last one of them leaving him no army of enforcers to control the wizarding population let alone conquer or destroy the muggle population. 4. Dumbledore certainly had insights into Voldemort that nobody else had, but if Harry Potter had been lost in the Battle of Hogwarts and Voldemort had tried to expand from control of Britain to control of the entire wizarding world the great minds of other wizarding nations would have been put to the task of figuring out how Voldemort had survived for so long and would have figured out the secret of his horcruxes. They would have then likely launched a massive effort either publicly or in secret to find and destroy the horcruxes and thus make Voldemort mortal and therefore defeatable. Facing the entire wizarding world instead of just a British Resistance group made up for the Order of the Phoenix and Dumbledore's Army, the Death Eaters would have been overwhelmed and eliminated quickly. Dumbledore might have been the only wizard that Voldemort ever feared, but that is because he never encountered the other brilliant witches and wizards around the world who were similar to Dumbledore in their knowledge and power. Even assuming that none of the others were fully on Dumbledore's level, between them they would have figured out the horcrux problem, found them, destroyed them, and rendered the All Powerful Lord Voldemort into the mortal Tom Riddle once again making it inevitable that someone rid the world of the would be tyrant. The muggles would never even have to get involved. The wizarding population of Britain might have been able to defeat Voldemort without Harry Potter, but the combined strength and wisdom of the world's wizarding population would have wiped Voldemort and his Death Eaters from existence. In the end Voldemort was a British threat, not a global threat and we the readers have long given him too much credit for the threat that he posed.

Several different things could have happened. First, he still would have had Nagini probably, as a horcrux since she wasn't killed by Neville until after Harry revealed himself to be alive, or not. Things still could have played out the same way, so if Harry had indeed been killed as well as Nagini, Voldemort would have still had his existing soul and could be killed by anyone. The next question would have been what would have happened after Voldemort had died, whether by assassination or just old age, as he was at least in his 70s by the final battle at Hogwarts. Would someone else in his regime try to keep power or would with wizarding world try to go back to what it was before he took over?

We actually don't need to wonder because the concept was briefly explored in The Cursed Child, which unfortunately is considered canon which means that those outcomes are literally what would of happened.

I never read the books.. Only saw the movies. About time I read them..

Really enjoyed your alt timeline though I think you are missing the need to deal with the other wizards. I think Voldy would ally with Durmstrang and orchestrate a surprise attack and takeover of Beauxbaton. Then either expand or that would be enough of a powerbase to attack the muggles.

Weren't the first witches and wizards to be born technically muggle born, though... To me, it seems magic should be more pure to those who wouldn't normally be born with it than those who are born to a of family wizards

We got what would have happened if Voldemort won in The Cursed Child when Al and Scorpius accidentally changed time so Voldemort did win the war, and it wasn't pretty.

Another excellent video. Got me thinking about the political situation in other wizard world governments. This is a situation a little different than those discussed in the previous video "The Real Reason No Other Countries Helped Fight Against Voldemort". If Voldemort wins over the UK wizard government and, by extension, the muggle government that sets an unbalanced power in the wizarding world and the muggle world. Surely this unbalance would motivate other wizarding governments to take direct action against Voldemort. It could be simply "leave us alone and we'll leave you alone" or invasion by a single or a coalition of wizard governments. Such a thing would draw in the muggle world too, and probably not as a bystander. The goal could be to remove Voldemort from power and restore a stable government. Part of this goal depends on the current political climate throughout the rest of the wizarding world -- do any other wizard government have desires to take over/control of England or the UK?

Thanks for this theory! Its like reading a whole new harry potter book.

This would make a great setting for fan fiction, to look into the lives.

This is a interesting theory

What always felt wrong to me with the beasts series is that it introduced all the wizards in other countries. Sure we had the quidditch WC in harry potter and the trimagic tournement. But still. You always felt like wizard minestry was the highest thing for wizards in the world. So it is very weird when there are all this minestries in other countries as seen in fantastic beasts, but not once where they asked for help against voldemort. "The minestrie has fallen" was seen as it is all over now...even tho there are hundreds of more minestries around the globe

Great video. I’m glad you said the muggles would prove too much-that was my first thought. Half-bloods would find a way to get help from muggles, even if took years. I do have to say though-McGonagall is a formidable opponent and extremely cunning. Would she have found a way to defeat Voldemort? I don’t know. But I wouldn’t count it out.

Very good

Plz do the sequel what would happen next!

Let's be real here. If there really were any type of Muggle vs Wizard war, we Muggles would lose in less than a month. One strong Fiendfyre spell could easily wipe out a major city. It's like they have their own nukes. But where/what would Muggles target if Wizards decided to hide in a pocket dimension?

What if Doumbledore didnt die in half blood prince? (Eg Piton could fully heal the curse and they didnt plan any secrefice)

I don't think would persecute/imprison half-bloods because then there aren't enough wizards. He would rather let them do the jobs nobody likes. For example, Filch would be replaced by a half-blood as caretaker.

It all explain why Harry Potter was very important for wizarding world. Without him the magical world would have been in a catastrophic state.

HarryPotterTheory Voldemort send Hermione to Muggle Born Death Camp covered by Rita Skeeter or Azkaban instead killing her (Opinion)

I think that they’d explain themselves to the muggles, and try to make a peace between the muggles. So as to keep both sides safe, think of it like the alliance the French did for Americans back in the ye old days; and defeat the British. I could see something similar for this world of wizards and muggles, then Hermione would probably be the best bet to fix some or most of the problems.

Abaracaba was an influence for Avada kedavra I'm thinking lol.

The muggle militaries would form dedicated witch hunting units whose sole purpose would be to go around gunning down death eaters. They'd be trained to deal with magical opponents and have special equipment designed to resist magic. They might even figure out how reverse engineer magic and create their own pseudo-enchantments to protect themselves. A war with the muggles would likely result in military raids on the ministry of magic and Hogwarts where all the wizards just get mowed down by machine gun fire before surrendering. It would be difficult to kill Voldemort due to the horcruxes, but all his followers would likely be imprisoned or dead so he'd pretty much be a non threat to society. He could kill any military people who went after him, but he'd be constantly on the run and not in control of anything.

We need more theories into a future where voldy no nose won that was really interesting

Ironic that Voldy was a mud blood himself, as his father was a muggle. However, I seriously doubt many, if any, knew of Voldemort’s true heritage

I think not using the other houses common rooms would be illogical. Would the Slytherin Common room have enough room for all students? Plus I think it would be like a slap in the face to the other founders of Hogwarts if he annexed the other houses' common rooms for Slytherin house.

I like to imagine there'd be international intervention after Voldemort would take over. Firstly, one of the casualties of the Battle of Hogwarts would likely be Fleur Delacour. Fleur is French, and former Tri-Wizard Champion; her death would constitute an international incident. Her family and Olympe Maxime would have a field day gathering public support. A young woman, so beautiful, just married a few months earlier... She could be a powerful symbol. And if the French Ministry knows what Voldemort plans to do... they would make a big deal out of it. They would also protest his plans for breaking the Statute of Secrecy. They would argue to the International Confederation of Wizards that Voldemort's selfish ambition will jeopardize the entire magical world in an attempt to gather an international coalition. Meanwhile, in Bulgaria, Victor Krum would be less than happy after Hermione was murdered. Perhaps teaming up with Charlie Weasley, he'd start a campaign speaking out against Voldemort and arguing he's basically a new Grindelwald. He's an internationally famous sports player; think Messi or Ronaldo. He could sway public opinion, I reckon. Between the Delacours, Madame Maxime, Charlie and Krum, there would be a strong push across Continental Europe to drive out Voldemort. Voldemort would likely be overwhelmed, especially with his remaining old enemies joining the invading force. Also... would Voldemort go so hard on pureblood supremacy? He doesn't actually believe in it. Oh, he'd have to do something, it's his official political platform, but how hard would he really focus on it?

We needed so much spin off books/movies and I loved dark Harry Potter

The only factor I would add that isn’t discussed, is through human nature (wizards share it as well) is that throughout human history we find “Love” and “attraction” being something no government can contain and regulate. Pure Bloods would fall in love with mudbloods and muggles and even after Voldemort’s fall, the same would continue to happen. This part of human nature would always keep things from going 100% one way or the other. I think you’d also a larger number of wizards leave England for other countries where his laws were not enforced. Some place they could be free to be themselves. Even some pure bloods would do this as well. Which would also go hand in hand with him not having the numbers to wage a proper war on the muggle world. If he wasn’t so arrogant, and was willing to be patient since he can’t die, if he was smart he’d bide his time and set a target number/goal for his army before waging war on anyone and then once he reached that number through generations of breeding pure bloods he could give it a shot. Especially if he allowed is witches and wizards to study muggle weapons and even enchant them to magically enhance them and learn defenses. Similar to the “defense against the dark arts” class but in this case “defense against the dark muggles” class. That would beneficial to his cause. But he’s not that smart or patient and would lose as a result.

You didn't adequately deal with the Horcruxes, though. In this alternate timeline, have they all been destroyed? If so, why would Voldemort need to eliminate everyone who knew about them? Spite would probably drive him to do it, but he might also use the idea of the Horcrux to his advantage. Spreading rumors and fear that he might have Horcruxes hidden somewhere could be a very powerful deterrent to opposition. After all, if the person you destroy can come back and destroy you...

What happened to Harry? His arms and legs were chopped off and he was thrown in a cell and he was never mentioned again.

In terms of acceptance to Hogwarts, I believe he would allow HB as well because Salazar Slytherin allowed it. If of course they value their magical heritage only, they would probably be required to disown their non magical side or maybe even to use a Crucio on them as a show of good will. No he would allow HB witches and wizards to live, for the possibility of using them as tools in his regime. He will just force them to marry PB in order to have a blood line fix. However the variety will be very limited as you say. I wonder what would have happen with the Malfoy family in this story.

1) why not have all the heads of his table use the horcrux, just 1 horcrux. Making them all immortal. 2) that way breeding can stay pure.

Wizarding Third Reich with Voldemort now playing the role of AH.

Since this is Voldemort and his Death Eaters, I don't think that theyd keep muggle borns and half bloods in work camps... I'm pretty sure they'd resort to mass genocide. That's a pretty dark concept, but I don't think that Voldemort wouldn't be above this

i would bet at some point wizard resistance would unite will muggles and you would get some interesting new magic tec hybrids

For those people talking about muggle war tech, a magic blast is quite powerful to.

Ohhh this is a spicy theory!

Damn, you really paint a picture with this and with other videos that depict similar scenarios.

A lot of people die, the war spills into the Muggle world, some army other takes him out.

I see the pure bloods rebelling long before it got to that point.

Its incredible how similar these details are with our harsh history. I think this is an accurate description of how Voldemort would act if he was victorious.

Voldemorts contempt for muggels would be his undoing. Eventually he would challenge muggel governments in an effort to establish his wizard hierarchy, but he would quickly find that normal people aren’t the pathetic worms he thought he’d be trampling.

One thought I have always wondered about: Children are brought up with religion in the house hold. There are a multitude of religions around the world. Yet we never see students practice a religious faith when on a magical campus. Say for example, what if we utter a christian prayer and it cancels out the magic or affects it in some way?

But Harry meant to die for everyone. This created a charm like the one his mother gave him. Harry gave his life for literally everyone in the world. No one could he hurt by voldys spells. Even Harry himself said this as they were circling each other in the great hall. Therefore, this theory is in my humblest internet opinion, void.

If be interested in what happens next with the muggles knowing about magic. Since in this scenario, they found out in a very violent way, I imagine there would be a lot of hate, resentment and distrust. Especially at first.

All i'm sayin' is Fortunate Son is a fan favorite for War Enjoyers for a reason. The Death Eaters would become a permanent fixture on the earth (sorry that's how we roll); America aint gonna let an opportunity like America slide by it.

Harry Potter and the curses child already covered this

Manacled…!!!?? I can’t be the only one who thought of this book as an alternative ending. I’m not a fanfic person at all but this one just ripped my heart to shreds.

Imagine the muggles just dropping 20 nukes on Voldy

You know with those camps, could that just technically lead to a whole load of Obscurials?

On the fact of the pure bloods and breeding - I think as soon as the word in the wizard worlds spread, pure blood enthusiasts from around the world would move to England to keep and their status and mix with other family’s as well

lol I love how all of his policies are just "the opposite of what you think is good" Very well written character.

I think the biggest factor that wasn't explored deeply enough in this hypothetical is that grinderwald was a global issue and voltimore was a local issue. In addition to that the statute of secrecy existed for a reason and Europe was not the only nation to develop rules about how you were allowed to interact with muggles because the reality is they were hunting and killing witches and wizards despite their magics hundreds of years ago. And a hypothetical where voldemort would have won the battle of hog words I do not think he would have lasted long in face of the ire of the world.

First comment. Thanks for vid

So Harry has been sent to prison without arms and legs, and we don't hear from him again? Damn that is dark

hmm.... wouldn't they all have to go into hiding to get back hogwarts? i could see a resistance group against him,and try to take him down!! this is a good theory!!

With Out adding Non-Mag Blood and First-Generation Non-Mag they will go quick like Gaunts. More Obscures, Squibs and Maldictus Curses. All bound by Half Blood lol Voldy Sympathizers are cray cray