Has populism been thwarted in France?

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Has populism been thwarted in France?

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@mojojojo1529 Ай бұрын

It is interesting to see that thwarting what the majority of the French people wanted is "democracy" while accepting what the majority of people wanted in Hungary is "dictatorship." European "values" got devaluated quite fast I must admit.

@on2thenextthing Ай бұрын

Well said. Things are not always what they seem, especially when it comes to listening to the media.

@onepartyroule Ай бұрын

The majority didn’t vote for them.

@Sphere723 Ай бұрын

The majority of French voters chose parties that explicity refuse to form a coalition with RF.

@goofygrandlouis6296 Ай бұрын

Also, shouldn't the English fix their *own* country ? Seems like a Labour landslide is way - WAY -worse, than a hung Assembly with at least one third of people who care about their country.

@johncrichton8876 Ай бұрын

How is your it thwarting the majority if more people are voted for other parties? As an American, where literally there isn't a 1 to 1 vote, and the Republicans have one the popular vote 1 time in the last maybe 6 or 7 elections I'm confused by this sentiment.

@WalkerKlondyke Ай бұрын

How pathetic, that the French must have their budget approved by European bureaucrats. All of Europe is a disgrace. It disgusts me that the world sent so many men to die to save Europe from Hitler, and the Europeans have so deeply disrespected that sacrifice.

@jp5419 Ай бұрын

Great point.

@aesma2522 Ай бұрын

Well we share the same currency so we can't have crazy deficits paid by the others, that's fairly logical.

@WalkerKlondyke Ай бұрын

@@aesma2522 Fucking loser. I'm gonna have to get all my guns out of the safe just to forget about your stupid comment.

@willpine7343 Ай бұрын

I think you mean they fought for the wrong side

@livingintheforest3963 Ай бұрын

Yep

@Idontwannahandle Ай бұрын

This guy is great. He should be on more American shows. Thank you Unherd.

@Stoddardian Ай бұрын

No, RN got the most votes. They just came in third because of parliamentary shenanigans. The RN will only keep growing.

@Likeaworm Ай бұрын

They’re acting like this was polling miscalculation 😂 The policy’s pursed by Macron and the left are what made this right wing undercut. If they keep pursuing these policy’s they’ll create a monster. The Jihadist and Communist had to team up to defeat Le Pen. That’s an unholy alliance that won’t last long 😂

@LeonWagg Ай бұрын

If you combine the votes for the centrist and the left, they are more than what RN got. So it's clear that the French did, in fact, reject the “far right.”

@kereyhaire6910 Ай бұрын

How many votes did they get? Like 15 million votes?

@vranckenmatthew8794 Ай бұрын

Correct. They are also the largest party in parliament.

@LeonWagg Ай бұрын

@@Stoddardian the combined votes for the left and centrist are more than what RN got. So the far right did lose.

@DarkLord-iz7vk Ай бұрын

The French Flag at Rassemblement National rallies, the European Union Flag at Macron's rallies and the Palestinian flag at the left's rallies.

@alexander5207 Ай бұрын

This is exactly it. Thank you.

@channel1_channel Ай бұрын

Macron is leftist. The EU is leftist.

@kelkrote Ай бұрын

I’m French and I must say you hit the nail on the head! It is so telling, isn’t it? Show me your flag and I’ll tell you who you are….

@lynnevenables7193 Ай бұрын

Why is a flag so important to you lot!

@mr.mystery9338 Ай бұрын

@@lynnevenables7193 you have to be kidding, right? Its france. Of course the french flag must be the most important.

@gontrandjojo9747 Ай бұрын

37% of people voted for National Rally... by far in first position in popular vote... yet they are 3rd in seats. On the other hand the left got 25% of the vote and get the most seats... "Populism" has not been twarted. The voice of the people has been twarted. And it will give more strenght to "populism" in the long run.

@bryan81584 Ай бұрын

All you need to know. That chart shows a "far-right" alliance whatever the hell that is. While the "n3w popular front" comprised of communists isnt labeled "far left"

@markhutton6055 Ай бұрын

The conservative party lost in the UK because they have shifted left. They should more correctly be called Labour Lite. People have not shofted to the Faaar Right, they have stayed where they were while the partiies shfted left.

@StephenSeabird Ай бұрын

Can you qualify that? The Party of George Osborne's austerity, Jacob Rees-Mogg's ans Liz Truss's planned further deregulation of The City and financial district. That is 'Left'?

@kereyhaire6910 Ай бұрын

Surely le pens movement is only going to grow bigger and bigger, it's inevitable

@Burrburrcloud Ай бұрын

Clearly there are more French people that are left leaning then right leaning....

@noobsaibot5285 Ай бұрын

depends on the (illegal) immigration rate and if illegals are able to vote

@bhuddy1832 Ай бұрын

So many folks seem to swallow so much of Putin's propaganda.... LMAO...

@robertlynch9678 Ай бұрын

I mean they got 4.3% of the vote share in 2007, 18% in 2022, and 37% in 2024 so history shows us they’re on an upward trajectory.

@Stoddardian Ай бұрын

@@Burrburrcloud That's not true.

@sandipmistry5218 Ай бұрын

Fantastic interview so insightful! Louis is great spot on !

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

Every time this guy is interviewed it is always full of common sense

@bhuddy1832 Ай бұрын

Do all of Putin's bots feel that way?

@jean-louismorgenthaler4725 Ай бұрын

To my opinion, it is fake common sense and full vested interest. Mind the trap!

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

@@bhuddy1832 what does Putin have anything to do with this. If anything, this election proved one point, Russia involvement…..if there was any……just didn’t work. France is just a mess, has been for over 40 years……a s…t hole if you will

@cnam1258 Ай бұрын

He is brilliant.

@jean-louismorgenthaler4725 Ай бұрын

@@cnam1258 yep. Like a lure. Voters are easily fished wish flashy lures. 😟

@janpetersen7440 Ай бұрын

France is in a little more chaos today than yesterday - nothing new in that.

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

France IS chaos…..a shit of a place

@R_V_ Ай бұрын

As a journalist said, "Macron is the Architect of Chaos".

@VonKirda Ай бұрын

Not so. After the EU elections, now Macron successfully slammed the door in the face of Le Pen. A masterstroke.

@yoursoulisforever Ай бұрын

"And lest we allow those who hate us to define us - let all know - it is not out of hate and bigotry, but out of love and loyalty that we shout: WE ARE A PEOPLE!”

@Livinginlanguage Ай бұрын

Where is that from, please?

@jeanmalone1323 Ай бұрын

We all voting against WEF

@Glenda-px4we Ай бұрын

As an Irish woman I'm sick of this Europeans need to revolt against this nonsense.

@chrimbus71 Ай бұрын

Ireland, will not be alllowed to leave the EU..ever. You are so deeply owned by brussels

@zealmediaproductions844 Ай бұрын

you mean a civil war ?

@galinor7 Ай бұрын

The EU works like a country. Ireland functions like a semi independent state with limited home rule.

@johnmurray8454 Ай бұрын

By populism do you mean the will of the people?

@jeanpaulfelix4095 Ай бұрын

"The system is rigged so that the peasants have no power". Count of St Germain.

@gontrandjojo9747 Ай бұрын

Yes that's the point. And the left voters are all concentrated in urban areas so they can regroup and riot. Electors of the National Rally are all dispersed in the countryside so they are not heard.

@advocate1563 Ай бұрын

J'adore Louis vincent. He is saying exactly what Vernon Bognador said in Saturday's DT. The UK is turning French.

@christophercooper2208 Ай бұрын

The French Revolution was in 1789. Did we follow them then ? Was there an English revolution?

@freshdonkey1760 Ай бұрын

I weep for France, such a beautiful country with rich history going down the drain.

@gloriathomas3245 Ай бұрын

The French reject a party with ties to racism and fascism. That's good enough even though I'm not a fan of the far-left.

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

What beats me is that this French guy tells it exactly as it is and in a very articulate way while morons on French news channel are in total denial of the reality……or rather to scared to voice it…….or ordered by their boss to shut up. I am much better off reading the foreign press when it comes to France or watch UnHerd and listen to Mr Gave. Trust me, what he is describing is the French reality…..no gilding the lily here

@l.w.paradis2108 Ай бұрын

All of the French sources I'm listening to are not holding back one bit. I don't know what you're listening to.

@cablenewsfanatic5634 Ай бұрын

Sounds like America

@Sars1-k6f Ай бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108what are you listening to/reading/watching?

@l.w.paradis2108 Ай бұрын

@@Sars1-k6f All of their shows with anchors who are pro-Macron and grill LFI leadership, which describes pretty much their entire MSM.

@annbennett5312 Ай бұрын

@@Sars1-k6fI'm interested in that as well.

@d.beaumont9157 Ай бұрын

We live under a thin veneer of civilisation. The veneer is getting thinner by the day.

@zilefn9212 Ай бұрын

This is a terrific podcast. UnHerd is increasingly one of my go-to channels to help make sense of complex political events.

@superdeluxesmell Ай бұрын

Populism is such a lazy and inadequate word.

@simonestreeter1518 Ай бұрын

And hateful and fearmongering.

@user-rn1ws5id8h Ай бұрын

All isms are lazy and inadequate.

@anthonybrett Ай бұрын

If there's one thing the far left are good at, it's coining a term.

@meisievannancy Ай бұрын

Well the left use it when they are losing. The left also use the term "far right" when a party not as left of themselves is winning.

@pistonburner6448 Ай бұрын

Especially as the ones using it are the real populists...or fascists.

@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj Ай бұрын

Meanwhile like in this country spending on immigration keeps on rising & rising & services have to be cut as a consequence.This "Green & pleasant land" is concreted over in order to house them all & we are supposed to be blithly indifferent to it all?

@dpstrial Ай бұрын

Sad to say, the vast majority of voters, the normies, are indifferent to it all. Many Conservative supporters chose to abstain rather than vote for Reform. I see little hope for the UK.

@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj Ай бұрын

@@dpstrial youtube deleted my reply to you.Clearly they are shit scared about letting ordinary people speak.

@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj Ай бұрын

youtube censorship clearly marks them out as the enemy.

@ericdelf Ай бұрын

@@dpstrial It will kick off.

@alfredrutz7830 Ай бұрын

@@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj They definitely are !!!

@terencefield3204 Ай бұрын

Violence and chaos is just under the surface in nearly all European countries, including Britain as well as France. The present deconstruction of France in Parliament can happen in Britain if a rerun of 1945 Labour proves to be a failure, which it may well do.

@stephendouglas4870 Ай бұрын

'A rerun of a 1945 Labour'? What semblance does Keir Starmer's Labour have with Clement Attlee's? See plans for the NHS. If anything, the two Labour governments are in stark contrast.

@StephenSeabird Ай бұрын

What semblance is there between Clement Attlee's Labour and Keir Starmer's? Not much, as far as I can see.

@serenapimentel7372 Ай бұрын

Denial of reality @@StephenSeabird

@terencefield3204 Ай бұрын

@@StephenSeabird Thank God if that is the case, the 45 government was communism light, and not very light. It ruined Britain and it never recovered, nor now can it.

@nickgood8166 Ай бұрын

Orders of magnitude better than mainstream broadcasting.

@antonyliberopoulos933 Ай бұрын

Thank you Flo and Louis-Vincent for giving us the full picture of the current political landscape in France.

@somerandomvertebrate9262 Ай бұрын

Has "populism" been thwarted? Oh, you mean the will of the people? Yes, it has been thwarted.

@1848revolt Ай бұрын

Has it been? So you only think there is right wing populism. That's even in question. Right wing populists want what business wants. Not what people want.

@Pinkdam Ай бұрын

If the 'will of the people' merely finds expression in who holds parliamentary seats, it was never up to much. On the other hand, RN has as its supporters the largest share of population, more than any other party: this could be used every day of the year to advance their cause, not on voting days. This momentum needs to be harnessed.

@somerandomvertebrate9262 Ай бұрын

@@1848revolt Right-wing populists mainly want migration stopped and reversed. They want freedom of speech, a Rechtstaat instead of a totalitarian tyranny of "values" and sovereignty back to the nation state. Nothing to do with business.

@ericdelf Ай бұрын

It's not going to go away.

@angryahole Ай бұрын

@@1848revoltthe growing right wing wants France to be France again. The more diversity the more right leaning people become. Its happening all over the west

@jez49647 Ай бұрын

I'd dispute the claim that we've really 'split the right' in the UK. There hasn't been a right in the UK for a long time. At some point you just have to replace a party that's no longer fit for purpose and take the consequences as they come.

@skillfuldabest Ай бұрын

As the saying goes: Vote Labour - have the third world as your neighbour, vote Tory, same story.

@774Rob Ай бұрын

I think more in terms of globalist/nationalist today.

@steeltrap3800 Ай бұрын

Best assessment yet that I've seen of the French election results. A pretty clinical assessment of the various characteristics of French politics and the potential issues of dealing with the EU. No dramatics, no evident/obvious bias. Wish there was more of it to be found.

@clarkkent4683 Ай бұрын

The eu needs dissolving.

@danesovic7585 Ай бұрын

No, the UK does.

@nigelhard1519 Ай бұрын

Why?

@ChristineRead-ck1uq Ай бұрын

@@danesovic7585 Why's that? Can't stand that the British have been one of the most successful nations ever in the world?

@corriemooney9812 Ай бұрын

@@nigelhard1519A very large power centre with essentially no democratic accountability, opaque processes and detachment from reality?

@danesovic7585 Ай бұрын

@@ChristineRead-ck1uq I don't care about about Britain, but the EU is our home. Stop asking us to dissolve it.

@stevemartin7464 Ай бұрын

My God France is in trouble right now, real trouble.How could they possibly have voted like this?

@markbardner8214 Ай бұрын

The UK right was incompetent

@johnsouth3912 Ай бұрын

Disagree. It was intentional.😊

@robertlynch9678 Ай бұрын

The Tories are not Right-wing in the least

@evolassunglasses4673 Ай бұрын

Torys are the political wing of international finance capitalism.

@jonathanritchie5273 Ай бұрын

@robertlynch9678 Their voters are though.

@774Rob Ай бұрын

The actual UK right, if such a thing still exists, went from a standing start to the third most popular party in the UK in a month. It had by far the best social media strategy which saw it gain three times the amount of exposure as Labour managed for 1/67th of the cost, and it destroyed possibly the most successful political party in Western history. I can't wait to see what they can do when they are organised.

@katelane8016 Ай бұрын

From Canada: Thanks for an intelligent, informative conversation about what's going on in France. Really enjoyed your guest's ability to express his views knowledgeably, free of distracting emotion, and full of confidently expressed, realistic and common sense views. Refreshing.

@tulimike1 Ай бұрын

choices are spend more, spend a lot more, spend a way lot more.

@dixonpinfold2582 Ай бұрын

The RN got over 1.3x the number of votes that the left alliance did. On Sunday it more than doubled the margin over the left alliance it had the 1st round. Left-leaning media: "Voters came together en masse to avoid the horror of a conservative government! Historic! Heroic!"

@Pinkdam Ай бұрын

The trick is that the 'voters' they care about aren't the people but the parliamentarians - the real 'demos' in their 'democracy'.

@avengemybreath3084 Ай бұрын

Seems like a last gasp of the French people before they accede to diminish and fade into the West - like the elves in Tolkien.

@paul-andregravelle Ай бұрын

Most interesting analysis. Looking forward to hearing more from this man.

@rigilchrist Ай бұрын

Flo, we DO have a philosophical left in the UK, which controls all our institutions: Academia, Police, Civil Service and NHS. It is not coming from a political party, it comes from indoctrination of University graduates in extreme-leftist Marxist ideologies of CRT and Identity politics. Ironically, though these arrived at our shores via America, their origin was French Intellectuals, such as Foucault and Derrida. As others have observed, the fault is not with the foolish young ideologues - it is with the adults who paid attention to them...

@user-vm8kd1lh7v Ай бұрын

Check out the Frankfurt School,usual suspects in there.

@michelegosse7116 Ай бұрын

you should listen to CanadianPatriot press/M. Ehret

@l.w.paradis2108 Ай бұрын

Well, that isn't as ridiculous as the prevailing story in the US.

@774Rob Ай бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108 It's fundamentally true. The Frankfurt School moving to Columbia was the catalyst and it was done because 70's French Marxists could see that Communism had failed in the West, mainly due to the working class failing to rise up. Interestingly it's the working class who are the modern enemy and minorities have become the lionised victims of their bigotry and hatred.

@rivgacooper5330 Ай бұрын

@@rigilchrist So you admit then all the highly educated people are left wing.

@oliveoil7642 Ай бұрын

All Western countries are running massive deficits and irresponsible fiscal policies. Coincidence or strategic planning?🤔

@alfredrutz7830 Ай бұрын

It's absolute strategic planning by the likes of Schwab, Soros, Gates etc.

@gerberjoanne266 Ай бұрын

The pollsters couldn't have known that the small left and far-left parties would join forces at the last minute. They don't have crystal balls.

@ChristineRead-ck1uq Ай бұрын

No, but I bet Macron did...

@neil5872 Ай бұрын

rishi didnt count on reform either, it seems, some election result similarities, perhaps.

@evolassunglasses4673 Ай бұрын

And the centre Right Republicans. Capitalism and Socialism working together to stop Nationalism.

@yuriarlequim Ай бұрын

No crystal balls and also the 20th century did not happen.

@benoitchamplon7149 Ай бұрын

Problem isn't the pollsters, they gave an acurate previsions of the number of votes. The main problem is the seat projection, which is bullshit since it tries to implies 577 local results from 1 national statistic sample.

@ansc6472 Ай бұрын

The Islamic republic of France ☪️

@BellBeakerBloke Ай бұрын

The problem isn’t religion; it’s race. Even if the migrants were Christian, if they’re African, they’re African. And France won’t be France.

@MaxPayne-fi1mz 4 күн бұрын

Atleast battle of Tours would have resulted in native muslim dynasty 😂

@ianjones1760 Ай бұрын

Great Guest

@simonestreeter1518 Ай бұрын

I'm sorry what? Since when is France unable to decide on their own budget? That is where the source of real independence lies. Vive la liberté, hein?

@rodneyfungus8249 Ай бұрын

Since they adopted the Euro. There is one currency, one central bank so other Euro members will not be happy if one member runs a huge deficit.

@simonestreeter1518 Ай бұрын

@@rodneyfungus8249 Oh, that makes sense, thank you for the explanation!

@ericberg2131 Ай бұрын

Funny reference to Monty Python's Life of Brian.

@jesseterrell2109 Ай бұрын

All I know is I didn’t see any French flags only flags from other countries

@HKCool-hj4bs Ай бұрын

Love Louis Vincent Gave

@daheikkinen Ай бұрын

End socialism forever

@1848revolt Ай бұрын

If you knew what socialism and capitalism in fact were. But you don't know.

@mcgilcol Ай бұрын

The guest is wrong an one thing -- the EU most certainly does NOT treat its constituent nations equally! The big nations like France and Germany get carrots, while the little ones get sticks (Hungary, Greece, Portugal, Ireland)

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Ай бұрын

You mean subsidies. Hungary, Greece, Portugal, and Ireland all get large subsidies, not sticks.

@warnaoh Ай бұрын

Its a joke right ?

@chrimbus71 Ай бұрын

Or putting it another way, the french snd germans write the rules, the minnows follow or their money is witheld.

@yuriarlequim Ай бұрын

@@chrimbus71the small nations get paid to be ruled by a foreign bureaucracy but for their own good and with European Values

@jakubsevcik1392 Ай бұрын

These nations agreed to it. We wanted the money from France and Germany in exchange for giving up a little bit of sovereignty. And I'm crazy grateful for it because us (Slovaks) would live under dictatorship like Belarus at this moment without overlook of the EU.

@garypowell1540 Ай бұрын

Governments seem to be able to kick problems down the road a lot longer than the average taxpayer can or would wish to. One could be forgiven for thinking that they have a war or something worse lined up for the time when they can kick it no further.

@willpine7343 Ай бұрын

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep fighting over what's for lunch it's cringe

@Toini01 Ай бұрын

I think populism relates more to the far left alliance that promises 1600€ net minimum wage, retirement at 60, higher aid for immigrants, etc.

@luisantos1996 Ай бұрын

All politics are populists i believe

@user-jd2fe1pu4w Ай бұрын

Excellent analysis and commentary, informed and informative; insightful.

@gnoelalexmay Ай бұрын

I don't know if western "democracy" can withstand any more "saving democracy" 😂

@AndyJarman Ай бұрын

It's the bloody Hunger Games!

@ozachar Ай бұрын

France counting on the rest of Europe to pay for it? Is this a joke, or the end of the EU?

@AaranMoonlight Ай бұрын

Nice Life of Brian reference!

@redmond1913 Ай бұрын

Great interview

@barr5173 Ай бұрын

Good program.

@orion777ben Ай бұрын

What an insightful presentation! I now feel slightly more optimistic for my French friends.

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

Optimistic? Are you drunk ?

@skillfuldabest Ай бұрын

@@Bruno-tm3xooptimistic in the fact that the right wing will do better next election

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

@@skillfuldabest French voters are fickle. Had Macron organised a referendum on immigration and applied danish like policies, the RN would be on life support as we speak. This is exactly what happened in Danemark where they are blessed not being saddled with a basket case like Melenchon and his cronies.

@muminkahveci7524 Ай бұрын

Very good presenter

@yalmahond2813 Ай бұрын

Freedom for the nations of Europe

@tomfuzer9885 Ай бұрын

Shocking to hear that even one of top dogs of Europe is so much controlled by Brussels. In the hindsight much less surprising to see what has happened to Poland and Hungary

@pauldavis3460 Ай бұрын

Has populism or democracy been thwarted? 37% of the vote and the largest party. That’s not a great scenario for democracy.

@onepartyroule Ай бұрын

Eh? How has democracy been thwarted?

@hasanabduqayumov Ай бұрын

@@onepartyroule because RN has got the most percentage of votes that a single party received, yet it is power is limited

@luisantos1996 Ай бұрын

Simply Macron made a dirty play, basically he sacrificed his party representation and gave it to the far left.

@onepartyroule Ай бұрын

@@hasanabduqayumov Which is not at odds with democracy. Maybe you don't know what democracy means?

@henrytep8884 Ай бұрын

@@hasanabduqayumovthere’s two categories that are important then, one is a plurality of vote and the other is the ratio of the vote. Just because someone has the largest percentage of vote does not give them majority of power, that’s not how democracy works. Get the plurality of vote, which is literally how democracy works.

@briancoulter4308 Ай бұрын

A+ for the Monty Python reference.

@johnpurcell7525 Ай бұрын

Yeah the right fell short always will in France French Addicted to Idea of a Free Lunch

@marianmoses9604 Ай бұрын

The migrant invaders will soon EAT their lunch!

@prakashpatil5152 Ай бұрын

What happened to citizens of France who voted more to anti France people.

@williammkydde Ай бұрын

4:15 No, in Britain it is not bc the right is divided. Tories and Reform combined still don't make up a majority. In Britain, the sheep preferred the familiar slavery to unfamiliar freedom.

@AllanHinde-mb2pr Ай бұрын

The Tory and reform didn’t unite at all, what are you talking about

@williammkydde Ай бұрын

@@AllanHinde-mb2pr Did I say "united"? I said "combined". I.e., if we add up all tory seats and all reform seats, labour still has more than the right do. So, divided or not divided, the right lost. Division has nothing to do with this defeat.

@asnowman8094 Ай бұрын

@@williammkydde You've combined the seats won... Popular vote (votes received by party) Labour 9.6 million. Conservative 6.7 million. Reform 4 million. I believe the turnout was around 60% Labour have received votes from around 20% of the electorate to achieve their landslide election result. Losing over 500,000 votes from their 2019 election result with a larger electorate to draw from...

@Dantianblue Ай бұрын

Unfamiliar freedom? No. They preferred having adults in charge rather than an extended clown show.

@AllanHinde-mb2pr Ай бұрын

@@williammkydde division of people, division of ideas, division of belief (okay I’m nitpicking)

@Tubekonto9 Ай бұрын

Great analysis. Thank you!

@michaelweber5702 Ай бұрын

The interviewed says something that is the reverse and the interviewer does not correct . ( An example : him saying the right when he meant the left , yet she doesn't correct ! This is done a lot in all countries with no corrections . )

@bronwenewens1198 Ай бұрын

Excellent analysis

@Nnomadd Ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean when you use convenient (useless) labels such as Populism. The people that voted are still there, and the change that they wanted is still real. There is nothing to be thwarted. This is democracy. Time will tell how the current political spectrum in France will evolve.

@nw932 Ай бұрын

Do you sincerely believe this?? The largest voting bloc has been totally "thwarted". Good luck with that lol

@IngeEvenwel Ай бұрын

As always very interesting and bring some perspective to the situation

@tallard666 Ай бұрын

It's so tiring that media and "populists" insist on country wide polls in UK and Canada and the USA when total numbers are IRRELEVANT. We have electoral systems that elect regionally. As it SHOULD be!

@maxyogi Ай бұрын

Loved this discussion!

@CLCL748 Ай бұрын

Excellent analysis! I think your guest is right on and some very tough times are coming for the French Republic. If the EU calls for austerity, France will go through what Greece went through. It will be painful to watch.

@mirianakovachevic748 Ай бұрын

Austerity ? At the time of funding Ukraino, and war ? I don't think so😅.

@chrisspeksnijder1717 Ай бұрын

Excellent talk

@carltannehill8307 Ай бұрын

Good show. FR and USA in same situation. The aristocracy did not listen to the population. They enriched themselves, now the rest of us have to deal with the mess. I fear for my son and grandchildren. Because they are the ones who will suffer.

@johndavenport8843 Ай бұрын

His analyze was spot on

@j0n.p Ай бұрын

Can someone explain to me in plain English how a country goes from hard right to hard left in less than 2 weeks

@freshdonkey1760 Ай бұрын

Political shenanigans

@calzonelover3950 Ай бұрын

The various left parties all joined together to make one party to avoid fracturing the vote. So the amount of people voting 'left' didn't really change, it just concentrated the vote to one party. Then the centre and left parties strategically stood down candidates in different constituencies to minimise where centrist and left parties ran against each other. Basically any centrist or left person had once choice of party to vote for, meaning the vote was really right v centre AND left

@j0n.p Ай бұрын

@@calzonelover3950 For people always concerned with democracy, that sounds very anti-democratic. Thanks for the explanation.

@R_V_ Ай бұрын

@@j0n.p And this kind of shenanigans is also what made the Fourth Republic fall in the 50's.

@nw932 Ай бұрын

Simple, 1) they were cheated out of seats, 2) the left teamed up with the far left.

@franklee6746 Ай бұрын

Haha, take that population! You've been thwarted again!

@wrathofgrothendieck Ай бұрын

Beware of the mob, they don’t think or vote rationally.

@nw932 Ай бұрын

Exactly, let's how long this lasts.

@norseman43211 Ай бұрын

Excellent guest and great podcast 👍👍👍

@asecmimosas4536 Ай бұрын

It doesn't feel like it right now for NR I'm sure, but this is good for them in the long run. I think the chance that NR was going to win the 50% of seats needed to win the majority outright was close to 0. But now the government is in indisputably left-wing hands. When the next 3 years are a disappointing slogfest for France, and I believe they will be, NR will be able to point to the failings of the system and rally for change, instead of having to try to hold together a cobbled coalition with emsemble for the next 3 years and getting the finger pointed at them for the stagnation.

@sophrapsune Ай бұрын

The Euro is toast.

@MichaelHolloway Ай бұрын

France has been waffling on going full-on neoliberal - that it has high government spending is a function of that politic - the majority don't want US imported unjust economics; and I would say they France is now in an excellent position to be a part of a global reset away from neoliberalism as it continues to collapse globally.

@MichaelHolloway Ай бұрын

A loss for Macron's 'far-centrists' (my brand new term ;)

@mcgilcol Ай бұрын

@@MichaelHolloway I call them "radical centrists"

@user-dz7hz9fm9w Ай бұрын

Did candidates dropping out of races have any effect on this election outcome?

@jer3887 Ай бұрын

What a mess of a country

@thomasandersen1765 Ай бұрын

Super interesting, thanks.

@odiedodieuk Ай бұрын

Great. Now the french can keep the boat people

@SR0-0356 Ай бұрын

Thats actually hilariously true!

@Bruno-tm3xo Ай бұрын

Nope…….we’ll keep sending them over to you

@odiedodieuk Ай бұрын

@@Bruno-tm3xo are you racist or something?

@aleaiactaest8354 Ай бұрын

Excellent guest. Interesting how he connects the results to the market.

@siuwong4588 Ай бұрын

Being as a foreigner (non-European), I am so surprised to hear that France has a large conservative supporters! I always think French are very left leaning and it’s their culture and even life style 😅 I thought they just don’t like so many uncontrolled immigrants (both legal and illegal) and can no longer bear with them particularly those importers islamic terrorists and their toxic mindset and laws and culture.

@ABC-rh7zc Ай бұрын

RN is a centrist party, not "far right", and it is the moost popular party and growing fast.

@abagatelle Ай бұрын

Very good presentation. Thanks 👍

@sshender3773 12 күн бұрын

Wow, this was eye opening. Please have this guy on more. Non-partisan and tells it like it is. And extra brownie points for the Monty Python reference.

@marikayamoun1888 Ай бұрын

Brilliant talk, thanks!

@johnberesford9906 Ай бұрын

Labour are center right so the right did ok in the end

@rodneyfungus8249 Ай бұрын

All the signs are that Starmer’s Labour are very left wing

@johnberesford9906 Ай бұрын

@@rodneyfungus8249 What signs? Not scraping the two child cap on benefits?

@DanFeldmanAgileProjectManager Ай бұрын

Like many Zionists, the guest confuses Zionism with Judaism. Jewish Voices for Peace, which includes Rabbis as its members, views Zionism as anti-Semitic. A society organized around ethno-religious supremacy (e.g., Israel) violates Jewish principles.

@rodneyfungus8249 Ай бұрын

Israel is not organised around ethno-religious supremacy! The 1948 constitution guarantees religious freedom for all and equal social and political rights irrespective of people’s religion.

@DanFeldmanAgileProjectManager Ай бұрын

@@rodneyfungus8249 how do you explain the occupied territories, the apartheid, the actual restriction of free speech aimed at Palestinians, speaking Arabic on campuses, the ethnic cleansing, indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians, and the ‘plausible genocide’?