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Has Steph Curry or KD had a better season? Stephen A. and JWill get HEATED | First Take

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Stephen A. Smith and Jay Williams get into a heated debate on whether Stephen Curry or Kevin Durant has had a better season thus far.
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@vincentdigirolomo8056
@vincentdigirolomo8056 2 жыл бұрын
Steven A. Made a complete fool of himself this segment. He made it seem like the Nets are bottom of the East and he also can’t handle losing a debate
@bobbyvalentino6773
@bobbyvalentino6773 2 жыл бұрын
Yup never could
@_Habit_
@_Habit_ 2 жыл бұрын
How when he was just comparing KD and the Nets to Curry and GS, SAS is an idiot, but i actually see what he's saying here.
@moviedubz7405
@moviedubz7405 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. KD is the MVP period rn maybe Curry will catchup again later. Any other take is biased and an insult to basketball.💯😤
@doesntmatter6453
@doesntmatter6453 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo. He was backed into a corner on his words and was falling all over himself. Lol
@archipelagoose6137
@archipelagoose6137 2 жыл бұрын
He's a fool on every segment and he's a bigger fool whenever JJ checks him 🤣
@roeharris3762
@roeharris3762 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jay Will challenges Stephen A.
@majidwheeler2172
@majidwheeler2172 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t he made it seem like him leaving was an issue he’s just saying he left and didn’t accomplish what he wanted to really simple
@briannaxw
@briannaxw 2 жыл бұрын
@mt what has kd accomplished by going to brooklyn ?
@Shimlayy
@Shimlayy 2 жыл бұрын
@@briannaxw what did Curry achieve in his first season with gsw? One season under kds belt with the nets, relax
@briannaxw
@briannaxw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shimlayy you didn’t understand the question.. what difference did kd make that was the main goal by going to brooklyn. i’m not expecting him to win the chip his first year at brooklyn. also your statement doesn’t make sense because steph was rookie and kd obviously isn’t a rookie. so that statement isn’t logical.
@Shimlayy
@Shimlayy 2 жыл бұрын
@@briannaxw the statement is quite logical. Putting kd down for not winning a chip in his first season with the nets while missing harden and kyrie vs the Bucks? That ain’t right
@kyngjaquin4632
@kyngjaquin4632 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I love how Jwill approaches his arguments
@reggaefan2700
@reggaefan2700 2 жыл бұрын
He approaches them like Max used to. The only difference is he isn't afraid to call Stephen A out.
@reggaefan2700
@reggaefan2700 2 жыл бұрын
He had no idea what he was doing when he got Max fired. Now he's getting lit up every day by everybody: JWill, JJ, Mina Kynes, Keyshawn....
@techwood16
@techwood16 2 жыл бұрын
Yup SAS knew he lost as soon as J will started talking 😄
@reggaefan2700
@reggaefan2700 2 жыл бұрын
@@techwood16 Yep. He done lost already before it even started. Lol
@Ap1mpnamestepbak
@Ap1mpnamestepbak 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A is just running his mouth in a losing argument 😂, man just saying anything
@Ohbubbano
@Ohbubbano 2 жыл бұрын
If you have to yell "timeout" over and over in an argument, just give up lmfao
@billeh60
@billeh60 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ohbubbano cause jay kept talking over him
@billeh60
@billeh60 2 жыл бұрын
@SauceBoss33 he only talked over him to clarify because Jay was bringing up irrelevant points then let him continue, jay was contradicting him in the middle of his points multiple times
@Lz3646
@Lz3646 2 жыл бұрын
Man like SASLOST THIS 🤣🤣🤣
@jayb6776
@jayb6776 3 ай бұрын
I mean looking back now he was 100% correct 🤡
@captainmarvelous7678
@captainmarvelous7678 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A really said KD has to be held responsible for Harden not scoring and Kyrie sitting out. And that's why he shouldn't be MVP. But also KD has that same team at #1 in his conference and only 3 games behind Steph's. He also mentioned Steph missing Klay and Wiseman and while ignoring that KD is missing Kyrie and for a large part of the season, Joe Harris.
@bigatm8476
@bigatm8476 2 жыл бұрын
If you Kd & you have James harden I don’t know what else you need 🤦🏽‍♂️ who does curry have ???? Wiggins ? lol kd has a super star curry doesn’t & curry has his team in first place when last season they was bottom 5😐
@jonahcannon2820
@jonahcannon2820 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigatm8476 KD and harden are good but the teams depth isn’t nearly as good as warriors
@captainmarvelous7678
@captainmarvelous7678 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigatm8476 they don't have James Harden. They have a dude scoring 20ppg on weak efficiency. He's not playing like James harden so saying his name doesn't mean anything. That's like saying "the Lakers have Melo, Dwight and Russ what else do they need?" Those guys aren't the names that they once were. Until such a time that Harden starts playing like the top 10 dude he was, KD is carrying this team by himself.
@Cikun9999
@Cikun9999 2 жыл бұрын
Curry is having a better team season and whopped kd when they matched up Steph needs to now calm down and play normal and he will win it
@fleeion8425
@fleeion8425 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonahcannon2820 Ain’t that KD fault for signing off on getting James Harden knowing it was going to hurt their depth?
@andrewshaw8080
@andrewshaw8080 2 жыл бұрын
record wise it’s a 3 game difference, KD is playing better and more efficiently and better defensively
@dominickwilliams3757
@dominickwilliams3757 2 жыл бұрын
And the bucks are only 2 games back of them with giannis playing better and more efficiently and better defense
@jonrussell739
@jonrussell739 2 жыл бұрын
If all you do is look at box score to do analysis, then I may as well ask a middle schooler. KD has a slight edge on ball. Steph Curry is in another stratosphere off ball. KD ain't in the same league off ball. Steph is drawing people away and making the 2 and 3 options look like all stars on a nightly basis. From a culture perspective, Curry has KD beat as well. Everyone is having fun all the time in Golden State. Why is that? Why is everyone so unselfish? It starts with number 30. Curry is More Valuable. If all you do is look at PPG and FG%, then I got nothing for you.
@jegca
@jegca 2 жыл бұрын
KD can't make his teammates better.. everybody on GS is better because all the attention is on Curry and his movement off ball.
@michaellewis2461
@michaellewis2461 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominickwilliams3757 ctfu explain
@JB-mb6lm
@JB-mb6lm 2 жыл бұрын
The bucks can beat the nets.
@bknetsdr7142
@bknetsdr7142 2 жыл бұрын
If KD were wearing the Knicks uniform, A. Smith would be saying KD is the MVP 😂😂
@hiro_hoops
@hiro_hoops 2 жыл бұрын
Bashed KD for joining Golden State, calling it the weakest move, now he will be remembered for leaving Gsw. Props to JWill for bringing that up. Can't have it both ways Stephen A
@fashionlife5348
@fashionlife5348 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You thats why KD did the right thing all when everyone bashed him
@hiro_hoops
@hiro_hoops 2 жыл бұрын
@@fashionlife5348 Even Molly clowned Stephen A on this. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@rohangupte3545
@rohangupte3545 2 жыл бұрын
I get pissed off every time Stephen A try's to slander Kyrie just hates him for no reason
@KRYSSANTT
@KRYSSANTT 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it was the weakest move in history but no one in their right mind is gonna sit here and think about KD as the guy who left GS, Stephen A be trippin
@cjsmith1058
@cjsmith1058 2 жыл бұрын
@X Marr You’re doing exactly what Stephen A and others are doing, crying for joining GS and crying for him leaving. Can’t have it both ways, my G.
@croKingRIncho93
@croKingRIncho93 2 жыл бұрын
"Hold up, hold up, time out, time out." You know Stephen A is getting schooled when you hear those words. JWill has great approach to his arguments. Smart man
@kidinc3649
@kidinc3649 2 жыл бұрын
J will makes so much sense and wins this argument . SAS can't even admit he's wrong
@mazengwe28
@mazengwe28 2 жыл бұрын
I like how everybody is forgetting that the media startared saying stuff about Kevin Durant forming another Superteam when Harden got there. But as soon as they started winning games and looking like the best squad, everybody forgot about the KD slander.
@nandiño024
@nandiño024 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A sounds like a hypocrite lmao and see how defensive he got when Jay brought up the “weakest move ever” comment 😂
@yerielsare3078
@yerielsare3078 2 жыл бұрын
The warriors are so deep that even when curry plays bad they can still win, just like they’ve been doing recently. If KD isn’t great the nets lose and he’s been great all year. Scoring more and doing it more efficiently while leading his team to the 1 seed, MVP
@justincoleman2102
@justincoleman2102 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the system that’s why Kerr the USA coach now he run that 90s bulls offense with two of the greatest shooters and draymond who fits perfect bc he unselfish and play defense and good passer and movement without the basketball it’s beautiful to watch
@jegca
@jegca 2 жыл бұрын
the only reason GS teammates are good is because Curry draws all the attention.. KD doesn't make his teammates better
@eljefe2176
@eljefe2176 2 жыл бұрын
KD has played the tuff teams against the east and lost how has he had a better season?? Also KD has one of the easiest schedules. If steph not there at all they win none of those games. Basketball is not all about scoring my boii
@Jay2K_SZN
@Jay2K_SZN 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just scoring, kd has been doing everything man.
@iceek1778
@iceek1778 2 жыл бұрын
@@justincoleman2102 the system exists only because of Curry
@sidtaviusmennis
@sidtaviusmennis 2 жыл бұрын
This man Stephen A. said don’t Lebron get blamed for the lakers struggles? Uh no he does not, they blame Westbrook low I.Q and AD lack of aggressiveness. Lebron is sinless to them.
@jamespalmer7474
@jamespalmer7474 2 жыл бұрын
Love SAS but he's totally out of pocket on this one. Take a question about who's frontrunning for the MVP and turn it into a discussion of overall career legacy. We all know y'all are gonna be having the same argument long after both dudes are retired anyway.
@Itakotsu
@Itakotsu 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Stephen A won't even say Kd will regret leaving the Warriors is KD signed with his Knicks 🤣
@daledan-irabor3018
@daledan-irabor3018 2 жыл бұрын
Take KD and Curry’s stats, put those stats side by side, remove their names… and 95% of folks will pick KD as the MVP!
@hueyfreeman7184
@hueyfreeman7184 2 жыл бұрын
Deadass
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players………
@hueyfreeman7184
@hueyfreeman7184 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans yawn, which of his teammates are playing at all star level
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
@@hueyfreeman7184 Kd’s teammates are not playing like allstars because his style of play doesn’t make him team mates better. Steph style make average players look like allstars. That’s why most players start to look good when they go to the warriors. Coaching, leadership, teamball…
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans Westbrook, Harden, Draymond, Steph, Klay and Kyrie all made all star teams playing with KD. Your point makes no sense lol
@Coolkev_2323
@Coolkev_2323 2 жыл бұрын
The fact KD is playing like he is currently coming off from a torn Achilles might be the greatest story in sports not being talked about. This man is really carrying the Nets on his back to the number 1 seed averaging 29pts on 52% shooting all while Harden is having the worst year of his career and Kyrie not playing a single game. I don’t even think the MVP race is close. Nets role players are washed compared to Warriors players.
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx
@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx 2 жыл бұрын
lol just a bunch of excuses.. dubs sucked for 2 seasons and everybody said they're washed. kd traded their depth for harden and now everyone's washed? 🤨
@joedirt3333
@joedirt3333 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx you acting like Poole and Wiggins ain’t averaging 17 each. Like bruh, kd leads in scoring which is all curry does and kd is a better rebounder and defender. 😂🤦‍♂️
@silviosantos1858
@silviosantos1858 2 жыл бұрын
In the story of the American sports
@one0onelion248
@one0onelion248 2 жыл бұрын
Now Steph role players are suddenly good again lol the warriors bench and players are being elevated CAUSE OF STEPH. THEY'RE WINNING CAUSE OF STEPH. Sick and tired of the excuses from the haters
@VaddyFC
@VaddyFC 2 жыл бұрын
KD is the best player in the league, he proved that in last seasons playoff series against the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm not even a fan of KD, but at this point you have to point out the truth.
@jackdiddIey
@jackdiddIey 2 жыл бұрын
Who won that playoff?
@jadenlammywhite1463
@jadenlammywhite1463 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackdiddIey 1v5
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic is better imo
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players……
@dominickwilliams3757
@dominickwilliams3757 2 жыл бұрын
How can you prove your the best player in a series where you lost game 7 on your home court and missing all his shots in ot. Every single one. Giannis puts up similar offensive stats while also being the best defender in the league.
@guillermomclean8657
@guillermomclean8657 2 жыл бұрын
KD MVP 🗽🖤🌎
@khad9675
@khad9675 2 жыл бұрын
KD doing exactly what all the haters say he can’t do, leading a team on his own no help. And please don’t even mention that garbage can harden.
@_hulse
@_hulse 2 жыл бұрын
I mean we not go act like harden isn't putting board line all star number definitely not where he should be but he ain't playing like a scrub but sure no help...
@Jasoncj099
@Jasoncj099 2 жыл бұрын
Well we will see at this point he just led the team to a second-round PO and so far this season he is leading the team just against bad teams, we will see in PO if he can do something big by his own
@deathrebirth444
@deathrebirth444 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@wadsguydee3366
@wadsguydee3366 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasoncj099 he led okc to the finals with probably the youngest team ever
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, Harden this season is not what he once was. KD is doing this with a semi-retired LaMarcus Aldridge as the 3rd leading scorer on the team, Won a Game last night with in spite of the team being hit hard by Covid.
@suv3534
@suv3534 2 жыл бұрын
KD is clearly having a better season, just far more consistent
@Ellis1993
@Ellis1993 2 жыл бұрын
Nah. KD isn’t triple teamed like Curry either
@fawadchaudhry6654
@fawadchaudhry6654 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ellis1993 Kevin Durant is doubled on 27.4% of possessions and Steph is doubled on 24.5% of possessions I'll never understand why Steph fans think he's the only one being doubled 😂. Maybe because the doubles actually affect him more than other stars?
@Ellis1993
@Ellis1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@fawadchaudhry6654 Steph curry is double teamed the second he steps across the half court line. You have teams doubling/triple teaming and switching all 5 guys to guard him on a nightly basis. Nobody else in the league is facing defense like that! Look how the suns play curry. 🤣. Switch all 5 on him.
@dompels1580
@dompels1580 2 жыл бұрын
@@fawadchaudhry6654 those percentages are only for when they have the ball. steph constantly gets two or more defenders on him when he doesn't even have the ball off a pindown or off a screen he's setting himself. in turn, he doesn't have the ball as much as kd. kd's also mostly doubled on the post, he doesn't have two guys blitzing him on every pnr like steph. when kd is doubled, he doesn't need to give the ball up because it's much easier to score on a double in the post than off a pnr blitz. it's also the right play to make to give the ball up to the wide open cutter when the pnr ball handler is blitzed. steph makes that play every time instead of forcing the issue into the double team, which is also the reason as to why steph's scoring is down.
@berrymckockiner5883
@berrymckockiner5883 2 жыл бұрын
@@fawadchaudhry6654 You made those stats up
@titxn9631
@titxn9631 2 жыл бұрын
Its KD, steph had a far better season last year, plus Nets are 1st in the East. But Steph can comeback with the pressure gone.
@kenilanbonde9558
@kenilanbonde9558 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! This is what im thinking too. Steph in these fast few games are careless on his shooting trying to chase the record.
@Itakotsu
@Itakotsu 2 жыл бұрын
Fr KD is even covering up Harden's bad performances
@playernine7741
@playernine7741 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bucks fan, if KD's toe wasn't on that line then that wouldve single handedly been the best basketball performance I've ever seen he was going crazy I don't think Steph is nearly as unstoppable as KD
@christiantorres8220
@christiantorres8220 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see him go 0-6 in overtime and airball his last shot?🤣
@haywood0457
@haywood0457 2 жыл бұрын
You ain't no Bucks fan. KD played a great game but people act like he didn't go 1-3 once Kyrie went out. And he still had JH. IDGAF about JH's "injury" he wasn't injured enough to no play.
@nickglamuzina6949
@nickglamuzina6949 2 жыл бұрын
The best?? FoH, and you call yourself a bucks fan?? Lmao 😭😭😭 Giannis 50 ball in game 6 finals was better
@christiantorres8220
@christiantorres8220 2 жыл бұрын
@@haywood0457 exactly they had a 2-0 lead when Kyrie got hurt
@christiantorres8220
@christiantorres8220 2 жыл бұрын
@@haywood0457 and James Harden was still on the court.
@baokhoiluu5949
@baokhoiluu5949 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a die hard Curry fan but as of now, KD has a better season, crazy efficient.
@BJSaxMan93
@BJSaxMan93 2 жыл бұрын
KD is my MVP so far but it's only December, discussing this now is kind of pointless. We thought LeBron or Embiid were getting MVP early last season before they got hurt.
@TheSwagIsBack
@TheSwagIsBack 2 жыл бұрын
Steph gettin it period.
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwagIsBack you biased fans would be squirming for curry mvp if he was in jokics shoes but you guys are hypocrites
@battousaithekingslayer9913
@battousaithekingslayer9913 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylehowe6761 facts bruh jokic is a monster right now
@bagchaser326
@bagchaser326 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylehowe6761 wait but Curry was in his shoes last season but he didn’t get it because of team record😂 jokic ain’t winning mvp bro cry more
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 2 жыл бұрын
@@bagchaser326 you’re a casual if you think they are both in the same position from this season to last…Jokic was blowing him out of the water stats wise last season and now he’s even doing it more so this season…and all you curry fan girls would be crying from the rooftops…bunch of hypocrites.
@walterdbrown
@walterdbrown 2 жыл бұрын
I swear sometimes people act dumb in this show on purpose. The narrative will definitely be “does KD regret leaving the Warriors after winning another title without him?”
@jonjon5665
@jonjon5665 2 жыл бұрын
That will be a question but the big question that will follow him his entire career is can kd win w/o curry...that will be even bigger than Jordan w/o pippen or kobe w/o shaq bc curry already had 1
@cashcarti9522
@cashcarti9522 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonjon5665 KD not ever touching a ring again 🤣 he chose his side already
@jonjon5665
@jonjon5665 2 жыл бұрын
@@cashcarti9522 with kyrie back it's hard to imagine them not atleast winning 1. Granted with a healthy klay and wise , that team looking unbeatable practically and could have the league on lock the nxt 3 yrs. (Where would that put curry with a 3 peat & 3 fmvp alltime?
@Terror832
@Terror832 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve giving it to KD 29.6 PPG - 7.8 RPG - 5.8 APG 52.3 FG% - 37.5 3% - 88.2 FT% He’s one of the few players who actually has played better despite the new rules while most of the other players including Curry have played worse.
@kahlilrush5051
@kahlilrush5051 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😂 curry playing worser 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@yoelpachuco6875
@yoelpachuco6875 2 жыл бұрын
Using “worser“ and referring on percentages and PPG to determine who has had a better season…you are a kid for sure
@olivercrespo2329
@olivercrespo2329 2 жыл бұрын
You can just say worse
@nvisible123
@nvisible123 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, worser-er.
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
Most intelligent KD fan
@ItsAJBro1
@ItsAJBro1 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO I love how J Will and JJ Redick are at Stephen A’s neck and not just letting him say anything. These guys aren’t Max. You’ve met your match.
@brianbrown9997
@brianbrown9997 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Jwill on this one. I get what SAS saying but steph having a better team actually plays against steph. Kd has been carrying a bigger load while still maintaining better numbers and a #1 record in the better conference
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players……..
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans Did you just list Blake griffin? That’s like saying Lebron had Shaq on Cavs lol
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@true1enuff
@true1enuff 2 жыл бұрын
I love Steph and I think the MVP race is close but SA is smoking rocks this morning. He said “KD is on the verge of being more recognized for leaving Steph in Golden State than for win 2 finals MVPs in Golden State” …..whhaaaaaat yo?! GS would have lost again in 2017 to a healthy LeBron, Kyrie and K Love if not for KD. This man SA is on drugs lol
@Kaisei1
@Kaisei1 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, nobody is going to give KD credit for the two GSW championships. What's SAS is saying is, if KD loses this year, people are going to laugh at him for choosing Kyrie and Harden when he had Steph and Klay.
@zSPARTAA03
@zSPARTAA03 2 жыл бұрын
@the ugly duckling lol Kyrie and lebron combine avg 62 PPG, I did not see anybody beating the cavs that year.
@OfficialCarlay
@OfficialCarlay 2 жыл бұрын
Say that again 💯❗️ Idk why people think the Warriors beating a healthy Cavs
@true1enuff
@true1enuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialCarlay 😂 fr man. Cavs weren’t a walk in the park at all. And I’m not even saying it was 100% impossible because that Golden State team was decent, but that “2nd run in Cleveland” Bron was really a problem. And GS realized after Bron, Kyrie, Love and the Cavs came back from a 3-1 to win game 7 in their house, that they absolutely needed more help to stop them because of who was leading the way.
@ballerparody6339
@ballerparody6339 2 жыл бұрын
Kd has way better stats, us shooting way better and has to carry his team more. Steph has been dropping 20 points on horrible shooting but his team is still winning. Kd on the other hand has to play 48 min just for his team to get a chance to win. Kd is CLEAR MVP
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
KD lost to every good contending team this year, laid an egg against Warriors while Curry got MVP chants in Brooklyn. If your team isn't winning you're not MVP at least that's what Curry had to hear last year
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@bartomeumora7335
@bartomeumora7335 2 жыл бұрын
Its not usual to see Stephen A. against the ropes but he clearly lost this argument.
@joolsevelyn
@joolsevelyn 2 жыл бұрын
We can’t forget about Jokic now.
@Kobeat21
@Kobeat21 2 жыл бұрын
We already did
@jccar1802
@jccar1802 2 жыл бұрын
Nuggets aren't playing as good as they should.
@daynite8643
@daynite8643 2 жыл бұрын
did stephen A really just say curry has a bigger impact than KD?? if kd wasn’t with the nets i wouldn’t be surprised if they were the last seed in the east if the warriors didn’t have curry they would be in the 8-9th seed fighting for the playoffs. Stephen A don’t know basketball
@cortlandnicholas1613
@cortlandnicholas1613 2 жыл бұрын
Do you rm when curry got injured? I think they had the worst record in the league😂😂😂😂. They don’t have Klay. Lmao
@cortlandnicholas1613
@cortlandnicholas1613 2 жыл бұрын
Nets got 2 mvps btw
@daynite8643
@daynite8643 2 жыл бұрын
@SMOOTH CAPALOT Nets r more talented??? bro stop talking plz. ur tripping draymond is averaging 8 8 and 8 while wiggins and poole is averaging 18 each while shooting 40% from 3 and harden is not in a slump a slump is 5-7 games not 25+ games into the season
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@daynite8643
@daynite8643 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans u r talking about the past did u really just say blake who’s averaging 5 points and Aldridge who can barely run or defend? joe harris has been out half the season and did u really just say draymond is one dimensional?? yk there’s more to offense then just scoring right? jordan poole is not a rookie him and wiggins improvements are the reason y the warriors are the number 1 seed without their improvements they would be the same as last year out of the playoffs in the 8th-9th seed. Also don’t forget Curry was better last year then he is this year so it’s not like he’s the only reason they r the #1 seed rn
@sskgrs
@sskgrs 2 жыл бұрын
I would say KD without Harden and Kyrie has the same chance in winning with Nets.... Patty Mills is doing a better job than Harden. They can trade the 2 fools in Kyrie and Harden and get quality shooters to help KD and they got a better chance.
@Hyperion1112
@Hyperion1112 2 жыл бұрын
Kd playing 48 minutes every game is incredible
@gregwatson3295
@gregwatson3295 2 жыл бұрын
I just happen to go look at Steph stats yesterday, so it’s fitting this topic came up. He’s shooting 43 percent from field and 40 from 3. That instantly made me think “How is a lot of people saying he’s running away with the MVP?” KD is definitely more efficient and also leading league in scoring. Warriors are much deeper than the Nets top heavy roster. My nod goes to KD due to roster and Kyrie being out. Curious who else do you all have in MVP conversation besides KD and Steph?
@mmg5068
@mmg5068 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic… if he had a top 3-4 seed he would be #1 in the mvp race what he’s doing is historically great and way better than his mvp season last yr and it’s not even close… but as of now yes KD is 100% the mvp
@gregwatson3295
@gregwatson3295 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmg5068 Good choice. He’s one of the guys who scares me the most when plays. Crazy how he’s kept Denver afloat while missing their #2 and #3 guys.
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@justinyan7938
@justinyan7938 2 жыл бұрын
if team seeds dont matter, jokic should be in and lebron should be in they noth have better individual stats than steph and are better defensively
@justinyan7938
@justinyan7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans you're just saying their names lol the nets arent stacked just look at the production those guys are giving you, you act like they in their prime. harden is not a feared scorer anymore, blake give like 10 ppg, aldrige doesnt even do anything
@Abstrack23
@Abstrack23 2 жыл бұрын
KD, Although SC broke the record which is incredibly impressive, look at his efficiency and poor shooting performance in some of those games. KD on the other hand had maintained a high level of consistency with less help.More PPG, Higher Shooting volume %, Higher FG %, Higher Efficiency, and almost the same amount of APG. So far my MVP is as followed - 1. KD 2. Giannis 3. Curry 4. Jokic 5. Butler/Paul
@mmg5068
@mmg5068 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic would be 1 if he had a top 3 record, but as of now KD is 1000% #1
@Abstrack23
@Abstrack23 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmg5068 Jokic is statistically having a better season than all of the players above i.e - KD, Giannis + Curry. And I am saying this as KD is my favorite player, but considering how low the Nuggets are, I can't put him as the MVP considering the Nuggets are the 8th seed.
@willgreig4077
@willgreig4077 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abstrack23 True we have to apply the same "rules" that got Jokic the MVP last year when Curry was acting at a higher level
@oa149
@oa149 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abstrack23 they are actually punching above their weight. No MPJ, no Murray. Barton has also missed time this season. You won't be crazy to have Jokic as #1 really.
@michelangelooliver2590
@michelangelooliver2590 2 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Lowbbk
@Lowbbk 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all tripping that’s Kevin Durant I’m tired of saying it and he always prove y’all wrong
@jasonspades7775
@jasonspades7775 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing super impressive about Currys season is Gsw record.
@andrewhudson7092
@andrewhudson7092 2 жыл бұрын
that speaks volumes about his leadership
@babatundeiman7612
@babatundeiman7612 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Stephen A keeps going in circles and making zero points. Incredible
@jcanbrownboy
@jcanbrownboy 2 жыл бұрын
Players have their signature moves....Stephen A has his. Lol
@madjames2392
@madjames2392 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen cares more for dramatics. He conflated 3 topics into 1.
@BrianLockett
@BrianLockett 2 жыл бұрын
SAS made a point. Just wasn't a solid or strong one.
@madjames2392
@madjames2392 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianLockett lol this conversation was about the mvp race and he made it about winning the chip.
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 2 жыл бұрын
I think KD has had the most consistent season so far. Carrie has had a few bad games in a row in pursuit of this record
@eljefe2176
@eljefe2176 2 жыл бұрын
??? What games have yu been watching.. their beating scrubs
@Tj-fy6js
@Tj-fy6js 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if these guys played on the same team.
@splashbros-yc9lk
@splashbros-yc9lk 2 жыл бұрын
@Shawn Brown cry
@solomonpigford6329
@solomonpigford6329 2 жыл бұрын
Shawn Brown he's being sarcastic 🤣🤣🤣
@ibrahima955
@ibrahima955 2 жыл бұрын
right, that would be unfair for the league. I honestly think they're the best DUO ever,
@clustajr
@clustajr 2 жыл бұрын
@Shawn Brown you salty 🤣🤣 like bron didn’t have kyrie or k love
@kevinmclain6741
@kevinmclain6741 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't quite work that way since there is only 1 ball
@DaFlash47
@DaFlash47 2 жыл бұрын
How is this a discussion? Curry has had MULTIPLE low shooting nights this season. KD has been WAY more consistent and it's not close
@yoelpachuco6875
@yoelpachuco6875 2 жыл бұрын
KDs fake account whats up?
@yoelpachuco6875
@yoelpachuco6875 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors would be 15th in the west without steph brookly still would be basically the 2018-19 houston rockets without KD so Most Valuable -> Steph…And steph embarrassed KD and Harden in Brooklyn…
@thatkidkgosi
@thatkidkgosi 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoelpachuco6875 in other words are you saying the GSW roster is trash ❓
@stephencurgoat7943
@stephencurgoat7943 2 жыл бұрын
This is true
@DaFlash47
@DaFlash47 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoelpachuco6875 Nets can't even beat the Rockets with James Harden....that's the impact of Kevin Durant this season Curry can sit and Warriors still win games they have a deeper team Nets is literally KD, Harden, Mills and Aldridge that's where our scoring is mainly coming this season it's not close dog KD mvp
@Highoctane74
@Highoctane74 2 жыл бұрын
Is Stephen A trying to say “ KD had to join GS to win a championship and now that he left , he can’t” but he’s too scared to say it that way 🤡
@ejatkins8926
@ejatkins8926 2 жыл бұрын
no it’s still the weakest move, jay was on the right track
@nanadwumah9096
@nanadwumah9096 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A is the reason they say; “the loudest person in the room isn’t necessarily the wisest”
@Dotty..
@Dotty.. 2 жыл бұрын
I Love Steph But KD Is The MVP 🗽🖤
@chrisk7070
@chrisk7070 2 жыл бұрын
KD is averaging more points and rebounds. He’s behind Steph by .3 in assists. He shooting about 9% better from the field. He’s shooting the ball much more efficiently. Kyrie hasn’t hit the floor, Harris has been out the majority of the season. And they are about 3-4 games behind stephs team. At the top of the Eastern Conference. I’m this show, they’ve said Steph is the runaway favorite to win and I just don’t understand. It’s not Jokic because of his teams record and Giannis isn’t as much in the convo as KD and Steph. Rn the front runner is KD. To say otherwise is just to ignore the analysis and the way MVP players are chosen.
@vision8641
@vision8641 2 жыл бұрын
Nah curry is the best player on the best team.
@stacybombath917
@stacybombath917 2 жыл бұрын
@@vision8641 you’re wrong go cry just say you’re a hater
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@wascalmateoagus9673
@wascalmateoagus9673 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, tell em
@dreseanscotland8468
@dreseanscotland8468 2 жыл бұрын
Nets do not have a great team. After kd and harden the drop off is insane. You can argue that if we ranking both teams it’s kd, Steph harden, and then the next like 4 players are warriors players lol
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
Individually so far KD, the pressure from the record got to Curry last 6 games and he's in a slump rn. But he'll pick it back up with Klay coming back next week. But I was told last year no matter how good you perform if you can't win games you're not MVP last year about Curry so why is KD suddenly MVP this year when he's lost all the contender games?
@LaForce1notdone
@LaForce1notdone 2 жыл бұрын
He sure can’t handle pressure, when lebron breaks records I don’t see pressure getting to him. Curry is a choke artist couldn’t win final mvps 5 times he’s been in the finals
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaForce1notdone He can't handle pressure because he's not used to, when he wins he blows teams by 20 pts or more. Clutch gene doesn't matter to Curry bc his team doesn't require clutch time performances. Plus he's the only dude in the history of NBA who averaged 27/7/7 not to win FMVP.
@moman3w
@moman3w 2 жыл бұрын
When Klay comes back don’t u think his stats will go down?
@WallStreetLogyc
@WallStreetLogyc 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaForce1notdone you’re not very smart and take that without being emotional.
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@rickrude1196
@rickrude1196 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen a: I love pancakes Jay Williams: so you don't like waffles ?
@gingervsginger7305
@gingervsginger7305 2 жыл бұрын
KD without a doubt. Don’t know if Steph got stressed out about breaking the 3pt record, but I hope he’ll come back and play like he did at the begging of the season.
@maverick33guy95
@maverick33guy95 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it's Steph easily
@Greatesteva305
@Greatesteva305 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverick33guy95 easily? You sound biased
@maverick33guy95
@maverick33guy95 2 жыл бұрын
@@Greatesteva305 and the guy who said kd no doubt isn't? Seems you just disagree with me.. steph is the best player on the team with the best record in the league and breaking records.. yeah I'd say if the MVP dropped today.. it would be steph
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@bazzinga2014
@bazzinga2014 2 жыл бұрын
Last year Steph couldn't win mvp cuz the team wasn't winning. This season its basically the same team and they're also winning...Just hate on Steph for no reason.
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao last year Curry averaged 32 ppg with a team that had the worst offensive rating since the 7 win Bobcats (no I'm not making this up) and these clowns said Jokic deserved it bc his team won more games. Now Currys team is winning so Individual stats matter not records lmfao. Can't make thus up honestly
@elijahreed8445
@elijahreed8445 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorsam5771bro steph got the same team but now they playing like they want to win something meanwhile only person is that comes of bench for the nets is Bruce brown and patty mills the rest come in and give no type of offense ( forgot lamarcus )
@stephenminamina9505
@stephenminamina9505 2 жыл бұрын
I know that Steph is breaking records this year but I think Durant deserves to win that MVP, playing like the former MVP durant with a lot of playmaking and a lot more clutch than Steph. Don't hate pls.
@theman9048
@theman9048 2 жыл бұрын
Except he won less
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@Dam_don_donda
@Dam_don_donda 2 жыл бұрын
The MVP most of time goes to best player on the best team so Steph might get it
@stephenminamina9505
@stephenminamina9505 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans not really, gsw were a joke last year. That was the reason why he didn't win it tbh.
@jccar1802
@jccar1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@theman9048 Less by like 2.5 games, lol. Check the current standings. KD is currently carrying a covid-ravaged Nets team with rookie replacements right now while keeping them in first.
@wartape201
@wartape201 2 жыл бұрын
KD : 29.6 ppg 53%fg 37%3pt 8rb 6assist 1st in East Curry : 26.1 ppg 43%fg 39%3pt 5rb 6assist 1st in west Just compare the numbers .. like it’s night and day
@goodprince5327
@goodprince5327 2 жыл бұрын
u are a casual. thats all i m saying
@Roadrunna24
@Roadrunna24 2 жыл бұрын
Casual shii
@Roadrunna24
@Roadrunna24 2 жыл бұрын
Curry shooting 27 curry Had a slump But u gone see who stats r better n a couple weeks
@ballerparody6339
@ballerparody6339 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lmao. KD has been better at every aspect. Kd is also the better defender by a lot
@galedribble9535
@galedribble9535 2 жыл бұрын
Jay already ended SAS when he told him his problem is where KD plays If KD was doing this with the Knicks he’d never be making these asinine arguments
@wokeupstupid3424
@wokeupstupid3424 2 жыл бұрын
If KD was doing this on the Knicks Stephen A would be gargling is nuts
@carlkash3587
@carlkash3587 2 жыл бұрын
So far it’s KD bro curry has been excellent so far and warriors are back but what KD is doing out there is absolutely unbelievable this is giving me 2014 KD vibes he rolls up his sleeves puts his head down and gets buckets
@justice5873
@justice5873 2 жыл бұрын
The same curry that got mvp chants at KD’s house? lol 😂 okay
@ElijaEriMarS6318
@ElijaEriMarS6318 2 жыл бұрын
But bro... The question is... How long will KD maintain the stamina that he has right now? Let us not forget his achiles injury... If Harden, Harris and Kyrie are not going to help KD ... I think getting the Champ will be sooo slim for them!!! I Love KD... and may God always protect him from any injury especially his achiles...
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@carlkash3587
@carlkash3587 2 жыл бұрын
@@justice5873they just appreciating greatness my boy
@carlkash3587
@carlkash3587 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans and ur not adding any depth or context what u didn’t say was kyrie hasn’t played a single possession and harden numbers and stats are all around down blake is barely in the rotation shooting 19% from 3 Altridge is doing great with 15 a game While Kd is averaging about 38 mins a game while leading the league in scoring curry has a healthy gsw team with draymond Wiggins who’s shooting 40% from 3 Poole he’s a MIP candidate and Iggy who’s a finals mvp and klay a week away from returning don’t be like the media a switch narratives lil bro
@Two3sf
@Two3sf 2 жыл бұрын
If jwill was on this show everyday like max Steven A would have a real problem 😂
@telles0824
@telles0824 2 жыл бұрын
Real reason SA chose Steph is because he already claimed warriors are gonna win the chip and if they do hypothetically he’s gonna say he was right about Steph having a better season than KD but if it was the other way around he would have KD having the better season just saying I can see it’s hard for SA to chose since he dck rides these two players 😂 and when I say that it’s not towards the two players it’s just to SAS directly
@stephonaugustin1384
@stephonaugustin1384 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised he didn’t blame Kyrie 😂😂😂
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
Steph MVP. Kd has a stacked team, which was expected to be in the final at the beginning of the season. In the history of nba how many teams have had multiple mvps, multiple top 75 players, 41 all star appearances, 5 players with at more than 5 Allstar appearances. Kd, Harden, Aldridge, Mills, Blake. (Kyrie, Harris). The Nets can’t even beat above 500 teams.. 1st in East because they beat mediocre teams. GSW wasn’t even expected to be top 5 in the west this season but Steph has done it with a rookie(Poole), a former bust(Wiggins), one dimensional(Draymond), and a pack of former g league players.
@telles0824
@telles0824 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephonaugustin1384 ikr 😂
@telles0824
@telles0824 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwektans what u said in the beginning is true but I’m not talking about that I’m just calling out SA on what he’ll say if warriors win the chip and for the warriors who ever didn’t have a top 3 seed before the season started has not right to cheer u can say I’m lying but I have screenshots of my comments on YT and Insta saying they’re gonna be a top 3 seed and am I surprised they’re number 1 yea but I had em a top 3 to begin w regardless of what they had on their roster cause they still have a guy named Steph and we’ve seen teams w either nobody’s or half nobody’s be a top 5 seed but u get the point
@saadsalman2261
@saadsalman2261 2 жыл бұрын
The media can’t be happy at all. When KD joined GSW people were bashing him. Now he left and people are saying he made a mistake but everyone wanted him to leave. So what do you want the man to do ??
@basketballoffseason.6687
@basketballoffseason.6687 2 жыл бұрын
KD MVP
@MastermindRell
@MastermindRell 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love seeing J WILL and Reddick. They need more exposure.
@chuckbarkley2755
@chuckbarkley2755 2 жыл бұрын
So sick of only hearing about Kawhi, kd curry and lebron for the last 3 years on this show talk about jokic or sum, who’s having the greatest season in nba history 🤦🏿‍♂️
@theg0dfather651
@theg0dfather651 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree jokic per. 60 40 90 club. The defensive rating and he would have had a 30 20 10 game if the refs was not soft
@jjkochanowski6817
@jjkochanowski6817 2 жыл бұрын
They're not gonna give MVP to a guy whose team is barely positive.
@ccae07
@ccae07 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjkochanowski6817 facts the last time number got somebody a mvp was Westbrook . They team ain’t getting talked about cuz they middle of the pack
@theg0dfather651
@theg0dfather651 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjkochanowski6817 also true
@dougiet.2112
@dougiet.2112 2 жыл бұрын
In NBA history? Nope. He is having a great season tho
@theprfesssor
@theprfesssor 2 жыл бұрын
What Stephen A. is saying sounds quite accurate He's saying people are going to judge Kevin Durant for leaving Steph especially if Steph wins another title, they will clown him for choosing kyrie over Steph.......and I believe this going to happen in the future it's all but guaranteed if he doesn't win a title for sure
@jetpetersho
@jetpetersho 2 жыл бұрын
that’s cool but what does that have to do w mvp
@theprfesssor
@theprfesssor 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetpetersho The conversation in general wasn't about MVP, it says who has had the better season so far and for that I would say Steph because he is balling like usual but his team is also been really good which hasn't been the case for a while in GS and they are not even at full strength yet As for the MVP I think KD should be leading that, he has done more with less his team is 1st place in the East he has better numbers then Curry in many major stats, Curry is having a great season but the last few game he has struggled whereas KD has improved
@JC-hl2ho
@JC-hl2ho 2 жыл бұрын
Because Steph has uplifted this team people assume it’s a good team, thus KD is carrying his team more. But who was originally favored to go to the finals? Nets. Nobody prior to this season started picked GS. That is all because of Steph. Curry is the MVP regardless of KD being more efficient ! Nets have over all better players currently.
@TheClipsPod
@TheClipsPod 2 жыл бұрын
yea no. although the nets were "supposed" to be here, nobody expected this type of drama and inconsistency from its star guys. nobody expected harden to not be himself, Kyrie to not be here, etc. Warriors have a better ran organization with a better coach and a better system. The individual players being better is fine but if they're are not utilized correctly is the point. Can you sit here and tell me that the nets offense is as consistent as the warriors?
@ballerparody6339
@ballerparody6339 2 жыл бұрын
R u stupid? Nets r not a better team than warriors. It's not even close.
@doctorsam5771
@doctorsam5771 2 жыл бұрын
When KD scores more the individual stats matter team record doesn't, when Curry scores more team records matter not individual stats because if your team isn't winning you're not MVP. Also according to people Poole, former Bust Wiggins and Mr triple Single Draymond > Harden and KDs team is "way" worse
@marvinhenry927
@marvinhenry927 2 жыл бұрын
Steph has Poole n Wiggins avg.18 ppg while kd has harden averaging 20 ppg n leading the lead in turnovers steph had a better individual year last year n they didn't make the playoffs so ya kds the mvp in every way
@Whoa_dummy
@Whoa_dummy 2 жыл бұрын
People picked the Nets assuming Kyrie would be there.
@Phoenix-nl2ut
@Phoenix-nl2ut 2 жыл бұрын
I love when jwill and jj redick is on the show.
@CesarHernandez-nh1wz
@CesarHernandez-nh1wz 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Will of course making sense while Stephen A. continues his drivel/nonsense.
@FruitMonger360
@FruitMonger360 2 жыл бұрын
They put way too much stock in a team's record when determining individual awards like MVP. Meanwhile Jokic is having one of the best individual seasons of all time and he doesn't even get mentioned in the MVP race because his team is mediocre. SMH
@vannq7785
@vannq7785 2 жыл бұрын
Those numbers aren’t really valuable if you’re losing tho isn’t it ? Putting curry’s/kds numbers + winning a game is better than jokic numbers + losing
@FruitMonger360
@FruitMonger360 2 жыл бұрын
@@vannq7785 Jokic's numbers do help his team win. Denver is 1-4 without him and 13-9 with him. They would be the worst team in the league if it wasn't for Jokic.
@kevinmclain6741
@kevinmclain6741 2 жыл бұрын
If they have similar offensive numbers then KD should clearly be the MVP as he is much more valuable on the defensive end of the court. He can guard 1-5 effectively.
@scoop2448
@scoop2448 2 жыл бұрын
actually KD has better offensive numbers
@nonchalant_kyle6522
@nonchalant_kyle6522 2 жыл бұрын
Just cause you're the best shooter in the league doesn't mean your the best player. doesn't mean your the most efficient. doesn't mean you not going to miss shots when it matters doesn't mean you gonna lead a team to a championship
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 2 жыл бұрын
Found the bronssexual
@nonchalant_kyle6522
@nonchalant_kyle6522 2 жыл бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701 did I mention bron anywhere? ya'll curry fanboys insecure and then some
@kellymurray8376
@kellymurray8376 2 жыл бұрын
Steph and KD have been having a great season this year. Honestly they are easily the two front runners for NBA MVP right no with no question.
@johnwebb2442
@johnwebb2442 2 жыл бұрын
I'm team Durant on this one.
@michaellavadia1713
@michaellavadia1713 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen's arguments are laughable in this episode. I love the man but he's been schooled in this one by Jay Williams. Kd is literally ahead in all statistics, and somehow Stephen Smith has managed to downplay that the Nets are actually winning. Team-record wise, Warriors are better but it hasnt necessarily been because of Steph.
@mxmaster410
@mxmaster410 2 жыл бұрын
How are they not understanding what Stephen A is saying. Its such a straight forward point
@KBoogs
@KBoogs 2 жыл бұрын
If Steph was on the nets, where would the Nets be? If KD was on golden state where would they be? KD also has double digits rebounds and assists. Steven A. is on the “Wacky Weed” again.
@themosaique7607
@themosaique7607 2 жыл бұрын
First, KD is ahead of Steph in stats but the impact that Steph is having on his team is significantly greater than KD's impact on the Nets. Second, KD's percentages are better because he has Harden who can draw the defense attention on him making it easy for KD to score while on the other side, all the attention is focussed on Steph. I do believe it's harder to score when you are being guarded by 2 to 3 guys
@wavykidifiy
@wavykidifiy 2 жыл бұрын
Every week it shows Stephen A and jay Williams in a heated argument
@Avenue77
@Avenue77 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Will wearing his all black vest again...probably wearing some Black Forces
@rickyromero600
@rickyromero600 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the Nets have the 3rd best defense in the league with KD leading the way. His defense has been so underrated, it's ridiculous.
@zSPARTAA03
@zSPARTAA03 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with SA about curry but kd is on another level and we cant ignore that.
@thirtygoated4766
@thirtygoated4766 2 жыл бұрын
Steph’s style of play Impacts Winning WAY more than Kevin Durant and that’s Just Facts. Curry doesn’t even have to score in a game and could still be the reason his team won. I can’t say the same for KD
@gusanitolt6112
@gusanitolt6112 2 жыл бұрын
Literally kd had a triple double yesterday but yeah he only scores lmao
@londyn9198
@londyn9198 2 жыл бұрын
Steph's team got better this year. I guess you didn't watch last season when warriors watched the playoffs at home. KD hasn't missed the playoffs in his prime.
@kwektans
@kwektans 2 жыл бұрын
@@londyn9198 Steph elevating g leaguers, and rookies with his leadership, team ball, gravity to a make teammates look good; nobody thought a team that couldn’t make playoffs to be this good. Poole is on a rookie contract. Draymond is one dimensional, he only gets assists because Steph can play offball. Wiggins only plays good bcos of Steph gravity, and 4 v 3 opportunities when Steph is doubled. Nets have a great team, if Steph had that team they will tear the league apart.
@antonioollison5124
@antonioollison5124 2 жыл бұрын
Easy Money!
@Zach_Ravel
@Zach_Ravel 2 жыл бұрын
Per 75 Poss: *Durant:* 29.0 PTS, 7.7 REB, 5.7 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, 62.6 TS% *Curry:* 28.4 PTS, 5.9 REB, 6.5 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.5 BLK, 60.6 TS% *Jokic:* 30.2 PTS, 15.7 REB, 8.3 AST, 1.4 STL, 0.9 BLK, 65.8 TS%
@hasanibrown624
@hasanibrown624 2 жыл бұрын
That man Stephen A talked in circles this entire segment lol
@MrPremps
@MrPremps 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A really missed on this segment!
@HKim0072
@HKim0072 2 жыл бұрын
it's about even. Steph makes all the players around him better. KD is a 1 man wrecking crew.
@asjadecosta9759
@asjadecosta9759 2 жыл бұрын
The guy literally said it's the weakest move from a superstar then moves some where else and says "people are going to say" No you are going to say that
@andrewshaw8080
@andrewshaw8080 2 жыл бұрын
this is a debate of media narrative vs. real basketball analysis…
@Aceituno6000
@Aceituno6000 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Will knows what he's talking about and SA needs to lay off the drugs, forget the weeeeeeed, lay off the drugs. Kevin Durant is clearly the MVP, SA argument didn't even make sense.
@Fiverr7890
@Fiverr7890 2 жыл бұрын
Nikola jokic has had a better one than both.
@kingsleyatuba
@kingsleyatuba 2 жыл бұрын
SAS, the world record holder for shifting the Post when losing an argument
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 2 жыл бұрын
Tough call but I'd put Steph slightly ahead
@jccar1802
@jccar1802 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly ahead despite only shooting a very inefficient 43% from the field?
@hamzarxja
@hamzarxja 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but KD’s team hasn’t beaten any significant team this season. And let’s not act like we haven’t already seen Curry and KD go head to head. It was a blowout.
@vinayakan9645
@vinayakan9645 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should have had the same energy last year when Steph was putting up MVP numbers. You guys said the team was not doing well and robbed steph of a MVP trophy
@justinyan7938
@justinyan7938 2 жыл бұрын
Steph curry only in the mvp convo cuzo this team record his stats aint even that good. he can go 5-22 and still win games. KD the MVP
@Champ100n
@Champ100n 2 жыл бұрын
Not even any mention of kd beating the raptors with 2 bench players and our rookies? Game was a blast to watch.
@IBdaPrince
@IBdaPrince 2 жыл бұрын
After watching it twice, I better understand Stephen A.'s point. For as great an individual season as KD is having so far, and he should still be an MVP candidate, he's not being played defensively the same way Steph is, the Nets have more losses to teams so far that will challenge the Nets run to make the Finals or ECF along with losing to the two favorites to represent the West so far (another point in Steph's favor), all while, until recently, still having the services of James Harden, LaMarcus Aldridge, Blake Griffin, and Patty Mills. The Nets are first in their conference but haven't exactly looked their best with all the players available. Both teams are mostly the same as last year and somehow Steph has led the Warriors from an 8 seed play in position to having the league's best record (for now) while being without their second best player and defenses specifically focusing on Steph to make others on the team beat them instead of him aka impact
@IBdaPrince
@IBdaPrince 2 жыл бұрын
And to Stephen A.'s other point (the leaving Steph for Kyrie thing), ultimately the best player in the world or players in the conversation are expected to be the ones to be called on to lift their teams above others, be the difference makers when needed. The perception will be (according to Stephen A) that KD left a structure and system that deferred to him and took a back seat to welcome him in for the sake of winning championships (when they had already won a championship) because he couldn't be viewed as the man on the team, just for him to get his own team and potentially come up short as the man on his own team when the team u left regroups and potentially wins a championship again without you
@timbrown9796
@timbrown9796 2 жыл бұрын
KD get double team also ,what u watching lol
@IBdaPrince
@IBdaPrince 2 жыл бұрын
@@timbrown9796 what are you reading? I didn't say KD doesn't get double teamed. Comprehension. I said he doesn't get the same defensive looks Steph gets
@MARxBLADE01
@MARxBLADE01 2 жыл бұрын
In all fairness not many people get played defensively like Curry does. They swarm that man like he about to give out free money lol.
@vptony3992
@vptony3992 2 жыл бұрын
KD is leading the east with a team filled of rookies and an impotent James Harden. So if Kyrie comes back and the big three is reestablished, I don’t want to hear SAS say that KD is weak. Kd is having the better season. But it’s a close race.
@jameskelly315
@jameskelly315 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish these clips were longer!!
@dremactvja
@dremactvja 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Jay , Jokic is the frontrunner
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