Have Clincher Wheels Finally Beaten Tubular?

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Жыл бұрын

With recent progress in tyre technology, could this finally be the time for me to ditch my 25 year love affair with tubular tyres? The weight penalty is now quite small, and the potential gains in Crr attractive.......

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@Apex820 Жыл бұрын

I’ll stick with my latex tubes and rim brakes

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

Absolutely nothing wrong with that! The best latex tubes seem to be close to good tubeless.

@simonwarmer8777 Жыл бұрын

Same here, vittoria inners together with schwalbe pro 👌

@georgec2894 Жыл бұрын

Same here: Vittoria or vredestein inners. Going to try some 24-33g TPU tubes (in theory this is the same weight as sealant … and a clincher tyre is normally a little less than a tubeless-ready one.

@Apex820 Жыл бұрын

@@CyclespeedTours yeah i’m just a weekend warrior anyway, I’m not racing or anything 🚴

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

@@Apex820 makes no difference! A smooth efficient bike is a joy, whatever you do with it!

@patrickparisienne1917 11 ай бұрын

Keep an eye on the Extralite ratchet system. Most brands use springs to ensure pawl engagement, where as Extralite use a single rubber O ring. If it breaks there is nothing to keep the pawls engaged m, which could result in a fall if applying power. No redundancy m, bad design in order to save grams…

@CyclespeedTours 11 ай бұрын

Thanks. So far so good, but will keep an eye on it

@emanuelpradera9717 6 ай бұрын

Question: I currently use tubs on my Old Tarmac SL5, thinking on getting some new decadence 49 or 59, question is: would you still get tubs or clinchers? Weight advantage with this brand is still big with tubs, and we all know hookless is crap thanks!

@CyclespeedTours 6 ай бұрын

I am still a tubs fan, because the ride feel is nice and the weight saving is very real.

@squashboy101 Жыл бұрын

Did you look at the GP5000 TT TR tires for extra weight savings?

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

Yes, but for every day riding, a bit too fragile I think

@nicensleazy1892 Жыл бұрын

How's the Ducati - are you still getting out on it?

@iansellers1251 Жыл бұрын

Would love to know your thoughts on fixing a flat on tubulars when out in a ride ? I have a pair but have never been confident enough to use them more in case of a flat

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

I get by pretty well with a can of repair foam. As long as the hole isn't too big, it works well. It can require a top up with a pump though after some minutes. If I was ever a LONG way from home, I would take a spare tub with me.

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

Just carry Vittoria Pitstop, easy to use

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

@@stibra101 Indeed, but it won't fix big holes.

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

@@CyclespeedTours Same like tubeless but less messy

@mikicastan Жыл бұрын

Yep,vittoria pitstop or decathlon have same product for less money will seal a small hole.proved

@charlesmansplaining Жыл бұрын

All that super light weight just isn't for me anymore. I've learned my lessons and spent enough money for it. Since I'm not racing anymore I look for durability mostly. And honestly I've been enjoying the bike more. Plus I'm richer now.

@davidburgess741 11 ай бұрын

Continental doesn't recommend using their products on hookless rims. Tubeless sealants don't work at the 25mm tire pressures needed for a 105kg rider on a steel classic!

@CyclespeedTours 11 ай бұрын

Continental DO in fact authorise use on hookless wheels, for certain types of their tyres. And the sealant worked fine, that was not the problem here.

@MrTait_en_Chile 11 ай бұрын

But surely adding 2 kg of Zinc anode is gonna negate any savings...maybe aluminium is lighter

@CyclespeedTours 11 ай бұрын

Indeed it is! Less than half!

@mikicastan Жыл бұрын

Tubs will always be nicer to ride,lighter and cheaper

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

Still slightly lighter yes. The jury is still out on the rest though!!

@mikicastan Жыл бұрын

Also,those TT versions are very fregile.they cant beat tubular im that regards neither.hookless rims can be quite dangeorus in 25 mm width tyre combo.

@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын

@mikicastan the fast tubulars are fragile too. That said, GP 5000 TLR, Schwalbe Pro Ones and many others are not fragile and I'd much rather have them at 65psi(28mm) than a tubular at 100psi to avoid pinch flats. Even Ganna's hour record was set on tubeless tires. Nostalgia is the only reason to ride tubeless outside of cross racing and even that's becoming less and less true.

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

Tour de France was won on tubulars

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Is that true? Is Jonas a tubby?!

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

@@CyclespeedTours All climbing stages on tubs, just few flat stages on tubeless for marketing reasons

@Eirikkinserdal Жыл бұрын

Maybe they don't want to go in the hookless deathtrap? 💀

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

@@Eirikkinserdal check my new video - unbelievable blowout

@barefeg Жыл бұрын

If only those tubeless were gumwall

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

Next time, they will be!

@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын

Tubeless has been better for a good 5yrs now. Regular clinchers? 10yrs for everything but riding on a flat. Little money is being put into improving tubular tires and nobody is putting money until making tubular wheels faster either *Valve cost doesn't mean much. They're reusable🤣 Time is money and it's a lot faster to patch a tubeless tire(in the rare instance it needs a patch) than remove, cut open, patch, sew, then reinstall a tubular tire.

@kubackjeee 11 ай бұрын

Hookles road? Nonsense. Just use tpu tubes. Lighter then this dirty sealant and tyres are LIGHTER

@CyclespeedTours 11 ай бұрын

kind of coming to that conclusion, yes

@ozgurinsan Жыл бұрын

so hookless exploded.

@fernandodisola6675 Жыл бұрын

Never

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

Hookless are dangerous

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

I have my doubts too, so I will be gently increasing the pressure to 6 bar to see if they can handle it.

@eto2352 Жыл бұрын

@@CyclespeedTours hookless not ready for primetime. ZIPP and ENVE sales fell off a cliff after they went hookless. Way too many sudden blowoffs.

@squashboy101 Жыл бұрын

My fear with hookless is flying down a descent and the tire coming unseated on a bend

@stibra101 Жыл бұрын

@@squashboy101 Tubulars are still the best and safe option for road bike tires.

@CyclespeedTours Жыл бұрын

@@eto2352 this has been very much in my mind, but then many teams in the TdF were using hookless tubeless and I didn't see or hear of any blowoffs. I don't think they would be making them if they were inherently unsafe.