I Put £1000 Carbon Wheels On My CHEAP Road Bike (Is It Faster?)

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David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

Күн бұрын

In the latest episode of buying a second hand Cannondale CAAD12, I've finally upgrade the wheels to some fancy carbon aero ones. But are they really better and faster than the cheap heavy wheels they replaced, or all about the looks?
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@davidbooth8523
@davidbooth8523 11 ай бұрын
Carbon wheels are definitely one of the best upgrades you can make to an older bike. Interestingly David’s Cannondale is only 7 years old and is referred to as being an old bike. Most of us cyclists out there tend to ride bikes that are 5 to 10 years old. So I certainly wouldn’t consider a 7 year old bike as being old.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 11 ай бұрын
It's just old in the context of constantly reviewing the latest newest road bikes that's all
@treygray2817
@treygray2817 11 ай бұрын
A 7 year old bike is basically new to me. My road bikes are 25 and 22.
@atilaj4446
@atilaj4446 11 ай бұрын
As an older 'enthusiast' (regular social bunch rides), I would absolutely love a mid level carbon, electronic/ disc, tubless, aero bike... if gifted. But, no N+1 budget available here. In all honesty, other than bling, to my world testing, there is little difference in feel between my 2007 Bianchi/ campy record R/B, with Euros wheels to most $3.5-5K bikes.. ( luckily I can just fit 28mm tyres)
@Blah-blah-sure
@Blah-blah-sure 11 ай бұрын
@@atilaj4446I agree! CAAD 10 & Tarmac SL2.
@johns3106
@johns3106 11 ай бұрын
@@treygray2817. I hear ya’…I have a lot of bikes; my newest is 12 years old, my oldest is 40!
@LagunaRider1961
@LagunaRider1961 11 ай бұрын
Always amazed at how much nicer these older bikes look with a set of modern carbon wheels. If that were my bike I’d probably have to keep the Hunt’s or find something similar! Cheers!
@dorseykindler9544
@dorseykindler9544 11 ай бұрын
I miss my CAAD4!
@stuka78
@stuka78 11 ай бұрын
Aliexpress waiting for you 😅
@johns3106
@johns3106 11 ай бұрын
I think deep rims look ridiculous on any bike!
@R...-...R
@R...-...R 11 ай бұрын
I complitly agree. I've got a Colnago super, Saronni red, steel frame from the 80's.. The thing was ugly until i buy 2017 Campagnolo Bora Ultra.. Now it is the best looking bike on earth
@NILSZWARTDOEK
@NILSZWARTDOEK 11 ай бұрын
@@stuka78 explain please, Are those safe?
@aveedub7403
@aveedub7403 11 ай бұрын
Hi David, thanks for an eye opening video. The Cannondale "Project" really shows what can be done on a budget, and for those that are on a budget. I've always believed the frame is the heart of a build or bike and peripherals can always be up graded. Your video must give encouragement to cyclists that struggle financially to achieve the best they can!
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 11 ай бұрын
Here is a thought...the price of 2nd hand rim brake parts are high because they are still highly sort after, and people still want them no matter what pretty much all journalists say.
@rejean2744
@rejean2744 11 ай бұрын
I just upgraded to carbon wheels 2 weeks ago. (Roval C38) . I don't have a power meter but I think I'm almost 1MPH faster. on my standard 20 mile ride. Where I notice it most is when I transition to going uphill, I don't get that "lag" feeling as I start up the hill. In other words, I feel like I don't lose momentum quite as rapidly. My bike is 4 years old now and though the wheels were expensive, $825 on sale, I feel like I'm getting the more out of my bike, so a thumbs up from me on the purchase.....a review by Dave being one reason I purchased the wheel set I did.
@Mububban23
@Mububban23 11 ай бұрын
Exactly the same experience for me. My stock wheels felt like riding through treacle whenever the road pointed upwards. Getting lighter carbon wheels with better hubs mean I get further up the hill before running out of the speed I'm carrying, I can be a gear or two harder for the same speed, an I roll downhill a LOT faster. I routinely out-roll heavier riders even though I'm very tall but skinny and lightweight. No regrets.
@notsoenduro
@notsoenduro 2 ай бұрын
What bike and wheels did you install the Roval 38s?
@JonFairhurst
@JonFairhurst 11 ай бұрын
Of all the money I’ve spent on bikes and parts, my biggest regret was buying carbon rims for my rim brake bike. One one ride, I got an unexpected downpour. I knew to brake early to clear the water, but the braking performance (even with the Hunt-supplied pads) was so bad, I nearly continued into the path of a truck. But what nailed it for me was a long gnarly descent that requires heavy and almost continuous braking. I rode it on a hot day and realized that I had no idea if the rims were handling it fine, or were on the verge of melting and delaminating. Scary stuff. I should have bought alloy climbing wheels for that bike. Carbon and discs are the better match.
@tfj100
@tfj100 11 ай бұрын
I've had carbon wheels with rim brakes for years. Even though the brake track is well worn, I don't experience any problems in wet, dry, heat, cold.
@JonFairhurst
@JonFairhurst 11 ай бұрын
@@tfj100 My wet braking performance is much better and more reliable with discs. On most descents, I haven’t worried. Either they aren’t that long, or I was able to let the brakes breathe enough that I didn’t worry. One particular local descent goes on for miles, is steep and exposed, has tight corners, and has crappy pavement with marbles. People say, “you’re not supposed to ride the brakes”, but whenever I would let it roll a bit, it would just get hairier and I’d have to brake more aggressively. I made it down without problems, but that doesn’t mean much. Was I well within safety margins, or was I on the verge of a failure? The problem is that it’s unknowable, and a wheel failure there could send you to your death. Rather than enjoying the descent, it was worrying and stressful. Rim brakes and alloys wouldn’t have worried me, nor do discs. Note that racers used rim brakes on tubular rims (and generally have better roads and risk higher speeds than I would.) We morals ride clinchers. With tubulars,the thickest part of the carbon is at the braking surface, and the pressure in the tire is contained. It’s not pressure on the rim. With clinchers, the braking surface is on the thin flanges of the wheel, and the 100psi or so is pushing those flanges outward. So, high heat, thin material, and high pressure, all in the same area. Bad combination. On that descent, I took multiple breaks to let the rim cool. It’s disquieting, given that I would be unlikely to get any helpful feedback until the wheels fail or warp. Not everyone has a descent like that in their backyard. I do, and I prefer to ride it without worry.
@g.d.1722
@g.d.1722 11 ай бұрын
Two summers ago I blew up a tyre going on a long undulating downhill while on carbon rim-brake wheels on tubeless tyres. The rear rim got so hot from constant braking that once I locked it up on a fast descent, the tyre blew up. Needless to say I slid on the asphalt for about 10-15 metres resulting in a large road rash all over my left thigh, butt, and forearm ... and the frame was covered in sticky slime. These were quality Flo wheels with proprietary brake pads ... So, carbon rims and brake pads are not a good match ...
@JonFairhurst
@JonFairhurst 11 ай бұрын
@@g.d.1722 This is exactly the risk. Rim brakes and carbon wheels are a good match until the split second they are not, and there’s no way to know that you’re reaching the limit until you’ve crossed it. Glad you are okay, with injuries, but ones that that heal.
@teeambird2079
@teeambird2079 11 ай бұрын
Swissstop black prince carbon pads are pretty good in the rain compared to other pads. Terrible compared to disc brakes obviously but they also perform as good as any brake system in the dry. They’re a bit expensive but you get what you pay for with brake pads
@stefanschuchardt5734
@stefanschuchardt5734 11 ай бұрын
David is a true bikelover. Makes a quality youtube video about an 7 year old bike he bought himself. David, stay beeing a real bicycle enthusiast! Love from Germany ❤
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker 11 ай бұрын
Have you watched the video? He states otherwise. I find no reason to distrust him.
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker 11 ай бұрын
I think we are in agreement. Of course he is doing it for the views. It is his job! But he is not getting paid by Hunt to test these wheels, or by Cannondale to showcase this bike. He even made an effort to measure the objective improvement to the bike's performance, which is really nice.
@stefanschuchardt5734
@stefanschuchardt5734 11 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan yes I am aware but its his job, content creator. Nothing shady about that. You work, you get paid...
@stefanschuchardt5734
@stefanschuchardt5734 11 ай бұрын
We agree to disagree. Time to move on
@letsgobrandon-iq3bn
@letsgobrandon-iq3bn 10 ай бұрын
I have a CAAD9 and you hurt my feelings
@newoldsteel
@newoldsteel 11 ай бұрын
I'm so stoked that you keep making content on this bike, it is SO good looking. I had a CAAD10 back then and have always wanted to replace it with any CAAD model similar to it.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@walkerbikes8
@walkerbikes8 11 ай бұрын
Don’t forget to swap the brake pads for carbon rims!!!
@peterquest6406
@peterquest6406 11 ай бұрын
Don't do that, you'll go faster if you don't, because you won't slow down 🤔
@craigmerrell36
@craigmerrell36 11 ай бұрын
Spot on my friend
@walkerbikes8
@walkerbikes8 11 ай бұрын
@@peterquest6406 Right, my mistake
@jeroenstrybos812
@jeroenstrybos812 11 ай бұрын
And be careful when descending in hot climates. Carbon wheels and rim brakes can get very hot which can result in your inner tube exploding and or even rim damage.
@shtdontstank
@shtdontstank 11 ай бұрын
you guys acting like he hasn’t been cycling for years and years 😂
@sgcycling7658
@sgcycling7658 11 ай бұрын
Great video Dave, keeping it real, well done. Would love to see the CAAD up against a high end modern “aero” frame set
@SIvers-or2ke
@SIvers-or2ke 11 ай бұрын
I recently grabbed a set of HED Jet6’s for my 5 year old bike and was amazed at how they kept speed over distances. My average speed on Strava went up by 3kmh. There could be some placebo in that though. The biggest difference I noticed was the comfort. The wider 21mm internals dropped my pressures to 70 max which was huge. More than anything they’re damn sexy and I feel a bit special out on the road ( but I’m not ) and they get me out on the road more often. Love them
@smac7932
@smac7932 11 ай бұрын
David thank you so much for this series! I’ve been following closely as I have this exact model of bike! Lately I’ve been getting that N+1 itch, especially with the TdF on but you’ve shown me some steps to take to make it feel new again, as mine is pretty much all stock. Cheers from the states and keep up the great work!
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@wazzatri55
@wazzatri55 11 ай бұрын
Very keen to see a comparison with the CAAD12 and a new bike.. keep up the great work
@nicholkid
@nicholkid 11 ай бұрын
Just bought my dad's old felt z95 bike from 2014 and this series is inspiring me. For our flat roads, rim brakes are completely fine. Next will be new wheels for sure but don't think I'll splash out so much for carbon, just gonna get high end aluminum.
@dwaynerandolph3565
@dwaynerandolph3565 11 ай бұрын
I’m a Cannondale guy since 2001, what a beautiful machine @David Arthur 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs
@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs 11 ай бұрын
Very nice review. I used to run my previous carbon bike with rim brakes on Vision Alu-Carbon wheel. They are probably the right compromise to save some weight, improve the look and the aero and still have a very good and reliable break feeling…and they were expensive but way cheaper then full carbon wheel.
@KansasAvalancheResearchCenter
@KansasAvalancheResearchCenter 11 ай бұрын
I just rebuilt my CAAD 9 with a complete 105 groupset and Ultegra wheelset. The CAAD frame is so well built, you can't see the welds. I've yet to see anything modern that's as nice
@trannel73
@trannel73 11 ай бұрын
Lovely bike. I start appreciating wonderful clean rim break setups! Great aspects for considering carbon wheels. Well done (I'm riding 30mm bontrager aeolus rim)
@yerags
@yerags 10 ай бұрын
Afer watching this I have ordered the same wheels for my Giant TCR 2020 rim brake bike, upgrading from Mavic Ksyrium wheels. Cant wait to give them a go. Going to fit Conti GP500S TLR tyres. Thanks for making this David. Hunt should pay yousome commission!
@rogermclaughlin6224
@rogermclaughlin6224 10 ай бұрын
Great info. I just dusted off my 20 year old CAAD 7 bike and took it for a spin on one of my regular loops. Even with the ancient Mavic Kysriums on it I managed to beat my best time by a full seven minutes over ~60 km (compared to a 2022 Ribble CRG Ti on Hunt Gravel Race wheels with 30c tubeless tires). Something to be said for the old, stiff, lightweight bikes. To be honest I didn’t find the ride overly harsh on the old Al bike. I just might look into some new wheels for the old ride…
@ohnezuckerohnefett
@ohnezuckerohnefett 11 ай бұрын
Every bike after the CAAD 12 is overdone. Its simplicity will never be outmatched.
@samuelberkun9788
@samuelberkun9788 11 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan LMAO how do they perform better? they are not any stiffer and are def not lighter..... Jonas is still winning the tour by 7 minutes if he was riding this bike
@samuelberkun9788
@samuelberkun9788 11 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan LMAO im not talking about a time trial, a bike frame has little to zero effect on actual aerodynamics the only thing worth a damn are the wheels and maybe handlebar to a small effect
@samuelberkun9788
@samuelberkun9788 11 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan yes it makes no difference racing you are delusional if you think otherwise
@robstermacinnes3104
@robstermacinnes3104 10 ай бұрын
I think it would be useful to upgrade to a decent alloy wheel set at a lot less cost and see what that improvement that does over the Mavics. I’ve done it on my CAAD8 to a JRA tubeless wheel-set (from Mavics) and the frame comfortably takes takes a 28mm tyres. I love riding it to the point my modern Enigma Etape is now coming out only for special occasions!
@mikekobal
@mikekobal 11 ай бұрын
Great review, depends on where you ride, I have the Hunt UD36, my fav wheel set, super loud freewheel, I find the noise to be a blessing on busy roads in the NYC area
@rtajansen
@rtajansen 11 ай бұрын
I'm riding a very similar setup: 2018 series Caad13, also Ultegra but with Fulcrum Quattro carbon wheels for a couple of years now. And even after the bike has done 15k km easily, the combination is pretty spectacular, the alu frame is very stiff and not forgiving at all, but with the wheel combo it very rapid, hugely fast on pickup acceleration. With the carbon wheels it's not the most comfortable bike to put it mildly but a blast when punching. I'm running it with campa red brake pads which actually make the bike stop pretty well (but no disc comparison at all). This is a fun, very nimble and speedy bike on a relatively small budget...
@SnugMoney
@SnugMoney 11 ай бұрын
I bought a set of 62 mm carbon wheels for my old old GT bike recently and the look of it is stunning. Same with your Cannondale! Definitely show a comparison between a new halo spec bike vs this project bike. Cheers!
@n22pdf
@n22pdf 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see the comparison David 😊😃😃🚴🏻 I like rim brakes personally just my opinion
@Robert-dg8qf
@Robert-dg8qf 10 ай бұрын
I upgraded my 9 year old canyon roadlite with 50mm carbon wheels. It was the best upgrade I ever did. They are 25mm wide and I run 28mm tires. The bike feeling is so much better and the comfort so much better. And people, I love the sound! The sound of speed every time I ride is still until today so motivating.
@jmounce50
@jmounce50 11 ай бұрын
Great video, I love the ones with the normal bikes that most of us ride.
@SCWgreg
@SCWgreg 11 ай бұрын
I made this exact wheel swap on my same Ultegra equipped CAAD12 back in February, shaving a full 1lb (500 ish grams) in weight, but I bought the Hunt 36m deep wheels. Yes super loud hub. But I absolutely noticed the responsive difference, and love them. Now my total bike weight is a respectable 16.4 lbs.
@ciprianclint
@ciprianclint 11 ай бұрын
I agree, i own a Caad 12 and went for Shamal Alloy c17 tubeless/28mm. Pirelli P Zero Evo, i have tried different carbon wheels and while bike felt a little faster i did like the look.
@chrisholdstock8247
@chrisholdstock8247 11 ай бұрын
I have similar wheels from Hunt. I agree with your assessment of the hub noise, it is like being chased by a swarm of angry wasps. I'd also agree that in dry conditions, they are definitely faster. However, once you introduce some rain, the terrible stopping distance carbon wheels provide means I have such little confidence in coming to a stop in time should an obstacle appear, that I end up riding quite a bit slower.
@InfiltrateIndustries
@InfiltrateIndustries 11 ай бұрын
Disc brakes!?
@shaunhoulahan4080
@shaunhoulahan4080 11 ай бұрын
I’d definitely like to see some comparison testing between the Cannondale with the Hunt wheels and a modern bike. Hopefully you will keep your position on each bike the same, similar power etc.
@jemsmay2167
@jemsmay2167 11 ай бұрын
Finally a bike YT vid I can relate to. Well done.
@tydurden81
@tydurden81 11 ай бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet BUT I can say the bike is better looking at least:)
@originalkontrol
@originalkontrol 11 ай бұрын
Nice deep carbon aero wheels make any bike look pretty damn awesome! I love them on a nice classic Ti or steel frame! Adding new bits to my bike always makes me excited to ride more, and generally that will make you stronger and faster! And there’s the mental aspect… if you feel faster and stronger, does that translate to the road? And looks like the proof is in the riding!
@JibbaJabber
@JibbaJabber 11 ай бұрын
Placebo gainz👍
@mickaellandau1489
@mickaellandau1489 11 ай бұрын
Any classic Ti road you could recommend?
@originalkontrol
@originalkontrol 11 ай бұрын
@@mickaellandau1489 I should clarify, by classic I mean classically styled. Ribble seems a great brand and one am seriously looking at for my next bike.
@mickaellandau1489
@mickaellandau1489 11 ай бұрын
@@originalkontrol looking at falkenjagd or lynskey at the moment
@ReptileAssylum
@ReptileAssylum 11 ай бұрын
Yes I get that. I stopped spending $$$ on cycling stuff I also stopped riding
@global_nomad.
@global_nomad. 11 ай бұрын
spent a couple of weeks riding my 2016 BMC carbon/ rim brake bike while the Aethos was in the LBS waiting for sram warranty parts and reminded myself how good it still is. Also remember the revalation when i bought my first set of deep aero wheels - Bontragers alloy with carbon fairing, perhaps a decade ago...and the light disappointment with early set of Hunts that replaced them about 6 years ago..now on Hypers and very happy with price/performance.
@williamko4751
@williamko4751 11 ай бұрын
Thanks David, great video. Would love to see a comparison to a $10000 top end bike
@ericbankston8027
@ericbankston8027 6 ай бұрын
excellent breakdown, David. I have a CAAD10 from 2011. and still ride it hard. LOVE this bike. i have Mavic alloy wheels and popped a spoke on last climb. I still ride w/ rim brakes and tubes. Can I order the HUNT carbon wheels with tubes? also, were you on the HUNT 62 or HUNT 82? and big difference other than price? you did highlight I'm going to lose some braking w/ calipers. Thanks again! im subbed now
@mikkomarkuskaariainen9023
@mikkomarkuskaariainen9023 11 ай бұрын
Great video!awesome Job, Brother!
@JSC131
@JSC131 11 ай бұрын
That Cannondale looks gorgeous with the hunt wheelset give me that bike over anything today great content David.
@nottyR6
@nottyR6 11 ай бұрын
I did the same with a 2015 aeroad with the same wheelset but upgrading from deep section Mavic's. These wheels are much better decenders beciase the profile is a more up to date U shape than the older V section which is scary as hell in a crosswind on a big descent. Agree also with the noisy hub, extra grease dampened the racket a bit - only a bit! 😮
@tjohnson200
@tjohnson200 11 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic with the deep section wheels.
@ccadp1219
@ccadp1219 11 ай бұрын
Yes David..please do that video comparing those bikes.
@tubesurfer23
@tubesurfer23 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see more carbon wheel sets with super deep rear wheels and more shallow front wheels. Also maybe keep the loud freewheel for people riding in the city and have a quiet option for others that only ride in the quiet countryside. Either way cool vid, cheers.
@PinarelloBolide
@PinarelloBolide 5 ай бұрын
When I started racing as a 15 year old I was told by the club elders, if you want to improve performance the biggest improvement would be made by upgrading to the best wheels and tyres you can afford. Fifty odd years later that still applies yet the number of people I see on expensive machines who skimp on things like wheels and tyres amazes me.
@peterharding1551
@peterharding1551 11 ай бұрын
I've had Hunt carbons on mine. Bike frame is Columbus Spirit. They have been great but it's important to note that they are much more fragile than alloy wheels. The lanes in this video look very much like the lanes I ride on. My rear carbon Hunt started to delaminate - just in one area - I sent pics to Hunt who were very helpful and reckoned I was unlucky and this was likely a stone strike. The wheel was written off. I've replaced it with a Mavic Ksyrium which is about the same weight but much tougher. With carbons and rim brakes you also need to be careful with overheating. I'm still running the front Hunt so far OK.
@CristoffelBonorand
@CristoffelBonorand 11 ай бұрын
It certainly looks faster! Looks pretty amazing for my money.
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki 8 ай бұрын
I did the same thing for an old 2016 Cube Attain GTC RACE that i had. I was running a set of shallow rimmed handbuilt hoops (DT Swiss RR440 with lower end Novatech hubs) for donkeys of years. Noticed one day that the rear wheel wasnt rolling straight so I took it down to the shop to have the wheels trued and thats when the mechanic there pointed out that the rim was cracked in multiple places. I bought a pair of hunt Aero Wide super dura's just to get the bike back on the road (people complain about hunt using bad bearings but ive not had any problems) and through the winter, then picked up a set of 55mm carbon wheels earlier this year. Even if i didnt go any faster on it, it still *LOOKED* every bit as fast 😅 I dont have the same punchy acceleration on the 55mm wheels as i did on the hunt's but im able to cruise at much higher speeds and pretty effortlessly too. I'll probably pick up a 40 or 45mm later on and see how I fair with that instead. I originally had a choice between 45 and 55mm but i chose the 55 as most of the riding i do is on the flats. Probably very overkill for me as Im not a club rider either and only participate in endurance rides like the Dynamo two or three times a year but at least Ive got a fun and fast bike to zip around on for a few hours during the weekends
@edwardsjohnpaul
@edwardsjohnpaul 11 ай бұрын
So... you can't really feel the difference in the weight, the performance numbers seem quite marginal, you get blown around in the wind, the hub noise is horribly annoying, and the braking surface is questionable... yet you say spending £1000 here is absolutely worth it? That seems like an absolutely ridiculous conclusion.
@DaveCM
@DaveCM 11 ай бұрын
He said these weren't too bad. Besides, being blown around doesn't happen every ride. It rarely happens unless you live somewhere that is consistently very windy
@Momokahn
@Momokahn 7 күн бұрын
​@DaveCM In Kansas, windy days are the norm. Calm/light winds can be counted on 2 hands each year. This is probably the biggest thing that keeps me from carbon rims. A lot of people in Kansas have carbon. I just prefer not to have to wrestle with my steering
@niklaskristensson2231
@niklaskristensson2231 11 ай бұрын
Good video! Weight diff? Or did I miss that?❤
@logojones96
@logojones96 11 ай бұрын
bike looks great, would love to see you do a weight weenie build on this caad!
@rhobson
@rhobson 11 ай бұрын
I've upgraded my (Decathlon) Triban 520 with a 50mm deep rim brake carbon EliteWheels set, and they made the bike look so amazing it makes me wanna ride it, so yeah, I'd say it is definitely worth it!
@matsrekdal3065
@matsrekdal3065 11 ай бұрын
Bought the same bike and wheels for my girlfirend, and recently swapped the wheels for my Winspace Hyper 2023 R33 (1229g), with 28mm. P Zero Race and Pirelli TPU tubes (37g). "You will never get these back", was her response after the first ride. 😅
@dwaynerandolph3565
@dwaynerandolph3565 11 ай бұрын
@David Arthur what is your take on the CAAD 12 ? I started my cycling journey way back in 2000 / 2001 until the present & the only road bike I’ve owned were all Cannondales, starting with the CAAD 3, 4, 7, two CAAD 9’s, one CAAD 12, & now the Cannondale Synapse 2021 with the CAAD 7 and 12 My overall favorite of the CAAD series. Now since I no longer race and leaned to more of a comfort bike I decided to purchase my latest Endurance road bike the Cannondale Synapse, with no disappointment. But I can honestly say I love how the CAAD 12 handles nimbly and with punch ! So I’d love to hear what you think of this bike compared to other high end bikes. I’m also considering building a steel bike from scratch & hope you can do a review on a steel framed bike in the near future 👍🏽
@sprlowe
@sprlowe 10 ай бұрын
I put Hunt Carbon Rim Brake wheels on my 2018 Giant TCR Advanced bought secondhand but unused last year. I call it N+1. It's bright orange too like your Cannondale. Great minds think alike!
@mickchaganis6607
@mickchaganis6607 11 ай бұрын
It would be great to see a comparison test....... could you chuck some norrow bars on to match the modern bike bar width as wheels and bars are an upgrade we can all do with our older bikes. PS. Previous subject of interesting fan bikes, I've just picked up a early 90s C4 Joker frame and fork, mad looking frame, no seat tube, overhanging top tube. This is getting a resto mod treatment, probably 11 speed mechanical and custom paint in candy holographic flake 😎 I love videos like this 👍
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 11 ай бұрын
In my experience testin by power is much easier than by speed. Speed always varies, it is much easier to hold constant power.
@freddywawa
@freddywawa 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your nice video ! I did the same thing on my 6 years old bike and I just regret that I didn't do that sooner for 2nd hand Campagnelo Bora One 50 wheels ! The difference is amazing but it's clearly braking less efficiently specially on rainy conditions ⚠
@Mclovinthedank
@Mclovinthedank 11 ай бұрын
I bought a 2011 fuji for $180. I convinced myself getting a new wheelset wasn't worth the cash, and I would end up buying a new bike that comes with nicer wheels. But I love working on this old bike. I can change the cables without taking the bar tape off... Once a good set of carbon wheels turn on on market place im pulling the trigger.
@bingobango6412
@bingobango6412 11 ай бұрын
I’d say check out the win space Lun, elite marvel, or light bicycle. I’m looking at these for a 2011 Cérvelo myself 🤔
@guyboycecam1636
@guyboycecam1636 11 ай бұрын
Hi, did you not reduce the tyre pressures when on the wider, tubeless HUNTs? I have the same wheels and tyres and really noticed the difference in comfort when reducing the pressures
@grumpy9478
@grumpy9478 11 ай бұрын
great upgrade for an ancient bike! other than riding in wind & rain... & the noise, dubious aesthetic, oh, & the $$$s.
@jonlane1209
@jonlane1209 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see the comparison!
@ehjones
@ehjones 11 ай бұрын
I definitely don't ride to a target speed - I'll either ride to feel or heart rate, and then I'm interested to see what speed that achieves. Testing with a constant power then seeing what extra speed an upgrade gives you would be a better real-world testing scenario.
@gp94403
@gp94403 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to look at how much of a difference wheel bearings make in your test. I would expect the new Hunts you tested had better bearings and fresher lubricant than the old Mavics. Just a thought.
@teddansonLA
@teddansonLA 11 ай бұрын
The bearings will make no measurable difference.
@mogglie
@mogglie 10 ай бұрын
Horizontal top tubes…. We need more of them
@davapod
@davapod 11 ай бұрын
The Mavic Aksiums are my go too budget wheelset, they've never let me down.
@jayare8424
@jayare8424 11 ай бұрын
I just scored a Giant Tcr for $550 rim brake , i honestly say used bikes are going up in price but u can find some great deals with rim brake bikes, the cost of disc brake bikes are so expensive and now rim brake bikes no longer being included in the newer models since everyone is going disc, your caad 12 looks awesome with the hunt wheels, i buy only rim brake bikes because they are a better value now, great video, thank you for doing this , Much love from California. ( if u dont want the wheels because it's a loud hub let me know i'll take them off your hands ) lol.
@nicholkid
@nicholkid 11 ай бұрын
And now the new entry level disc bikes are mechanical and to get hydro you have to pay like $2k it's stupid.
@testdirver
@testdirver 11 ай бұрын
did the same to my entry level bicycle, best money i ever spend, now without doubt its a super bike
@correntejames
@correntejames 11 ай бұрын
I have a 2014 Focus Culebro, with a very similar configuration like this CAAD12 when I bought it. 9 years later I've finally could buy carbon wheels and it is incredibly faster
@daveharo9878
@daveharo9878 11 ай бұрын
Just done the same with Zipp 303s on my aluminium Specialized Diverge.Comp E5. Got rid of those dreadful Axis Elites. Although it's a gravel bike i tend to use it more on roads, and the result with this new wheelset is v similar to your report here. Hill climbs feel far.more straightforward.
@aoganlynch
@aoganlynch 11 ай бұрын
Did you have any problem with the external width of the rims and rubbing of the rims/tyres off the inside chainstays, particularly out of the saddle?
@MrIanD1
@MrIanD1 10 ай бұрын
Love those bikes. My favorite would be a 2013 Carbondale Super six evo Hi mod team.
@dctruckguy
@dctruckguy 11 ай бұрын
Did the same upgrade with my 2008 caad8 with Hed 60mm wheelset. I don't use them all the time.
@lykelmacaranas6605
@lykelmacaranas6605 11 ай бұрын
You also need to change brakepads switching from alloy to carbon wheels right?
@sarunasgardzijauskas629
@sarunasgardzijauskas629 11 ай бұрын
Hi David.Could you advise please if i should go for a carbon wheels or good quality alluminium wheels.I have a 10 year old Thompson R7200 with Mavic Open Pro wheels built by LBS due to spokes breaking with stock wheels.Its a 700c622 wheels with 25 mm tyres-there is no space to put bigger tyres on.I am thinking about new bike but upgrading wheels might just do it for me.Thanks.
@lanceblack888
@lanceblack888 11 ай бұрын
Zipp 202/303/404 will make a huge difference! Awesome hubs!
@LucasMuniz294
@LucasMuniz294 11 ай бұрын
I put Carbon Hunt 30s on my CAAD12. The improvements in ride quality alone are worth it.
@barryherron5351
@barryherron5351 11 ай бұрын
Are you not tempted to keep the rims? Glad you got round to releasing this video.
@Lou-iq7xz
@Lou-iq7xz 11 ай бұрын
Compare it with modern aero bike. I’m in that limbo right now. Have a supersix 2016 rim and upgraded to hunt’s 50 mm. Live everything about my upgrade. Now let’s see if a modern bine justifies the upgrade? Thx for your great contents
@carlopoli9067
@carlopoli9067 11 ай бұрын
In my experience, since it's a proven strategy, equipping an older generation racing bike (15 years ago) with modern high-profile rims generally works: as you specified in your table, power watts are saved, therefore equal effort goes faster. However, I must point out that the bike, not being an aero-bike, with high-profile rims and in the presence of strong lateral or frontal winds, becomes quite difficult to ride, and you risk dangerously skidding, for example at high speeds when going downhill. So I suggest, on very windy days, to reassemble the old rims, out of caution.
@mmenjic
@mmenjic 11 ай бұрын
2:31 you will destroy your expensive wheels by not using carbon specific brake pads. Also at 2:55 you can see that because those wheels are wo wide your pads are at horrible angle which will destroy your wheels even faster while not being able to slow you down properly.
@boeing700
@boeing700 11 ай бұрын
Yes, please do a comparison video of this bike with a modern counterpart.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur 11 ай бұрын
Will do :)
@samelgore7575
@samelgore7575 11 ай бұрын
Did you replace the brake pads to carbon specific ones?
@m.k.4343
@m.k.4343 11 ай бұрын
Hunt wheels are famous (notorious?) for their freehub sound, but they are also offer a much quieter version of the same hub.
@crongey
@crongey 11 ай бұрын
i use 50 deep carbon superteam wheels from ebay for 400 a pair and i am loving them for the about 1000 miles ive put on them :)
@jeffreyanthony7348
@jeffreyanthony7348 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if those will fit on my giant contend 3😅. If so I just might buy these. Or something similar
@CarlBaravelli
@CarlBaravelli 11 ай бұрын
What handlebar width do you have on tge caad 12? Looks narrow
@zboi2105
@zboi2105 11 ай бұрын
I really love you caad vids🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳👍👍👍👍👍👍
@sventice
@sventice 11 ай бұрын
I have an aluminium road bike that I'm actually quite fond of; it's a great bike, no complaints. I did switch to a carbon wheelset from the alloy ones that came with the bike, and it made a big difference in terms of comfort and performance. However, switching to nicer tyres made at least as much of a difference as the wheels, and that change was significantly more cost-effective. Also, I don't think rim brakes with carbon wheels are a good idea in wet conditions. If you live in an area with a lot of rain and you're committed to rim brakes, I would think twice about switching to carbon wheels.
@Blah-blah-sure
@Blah-blah-sure 11 ай бұрын
That’s what’s puzzling to me. I get the impression that carbon wheels are really a bling factor. Also no matter how much I search for a comparison between disc brakes vs aluminum alloy rims for stopping. I hadn’t noticed any.
@JDRVP
@JDRVP 11 ай бұрын
Love my rim brake Allez Sprint Sagan wit ENVE SES 6.7s. Performs as well as my BMC SLR01 and better looking IMHO.
@randomname8442
@randomname8442 11 ай бұрын
Question is, how much do you enjoy riding the bike, especially vs some of the carbon ones you have. Dry weather, nice conditions, is it one you choose to take out?
@ic8658
@ic8658 11 ай бұрын
Lol, I have a 2019 CAAD12 105 Disc. It is amazing and at the time I had the chance to get a CAAD13 instead but just preferred the look and feel of the 12. I slapped some $800 Mavic Ksyriums on them from FB marketplace and am chuffed. I've been setting PR's up all the local mountains.
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 10 ай бұрын
The dropout standard is the reason why I wouldn't pick a CAAD12 Disc. I'm OK with both brake types, but even if the CAAD12 Disc uses thru-axles on both the front and rear dropouts, I'd still take the rim brake version as it doesn't look right with disc brakes. 😅
@flemosmagalhaes
@flemosmagalhaes 3 ай бұрын
My Sworks SL5 with Vision's Metron 55 SL still fast and amazing. Yeah, that point you need to pay attention is about the rim brakes on wet conditions is not good.
@ChrisNieves
@ChrisNieves 11 ай бұрын
I did the opposite but Chinese carbon wheels on my specialized tarmac after a couple years not a single complaint and the rim section is still almost like new, plus my hubs are quieter 😅
@charlesblithfield6182
@charlesblithfield6182 11 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a comparison, time trial at power, a hill timed at power and a roll down a big hill no power for distance covered, same tires and pressures.
@raykleiner3151
@raykleiner3151 6 ай бұрын
The difference made by upgrading the wheels is totally noticeable, speed, handling, rolling resistance. It makes a 50% difference according to my mechanic and although I was skeptical, after 2 years on my carbon wheels I can agree with him.
@williamko4751
@williamko4751 11 ай бұрын
Suggestion David, change to a set of $5 Ridenow tpu inner tube. Even lighter, faster, and better handling.
@martinomodena6900
@martinomodena6900 10 ай бұрын
I've made the same upgrade on my 25 years old look 251 kg using a pair of ffwd carbon wheels and a used Shimano ultegra groupset. Very happy with the new "look"...not so happy with the overall comfort and the noise
@xavcarmic0686
@xavcarmic0686 11 ай бұрын
The bike looks great with the hunts. Although a 2016 CAAD 12 isn’t an old bike to me 😊
@someone-somewhere
@someone-somewhere 11 ай бұрын
what about the difference in stiffness? may be uphill the aereo not a reall difference . Also if the are corners, a stiffer wheel should accelerate faster. I've heard carbon aereo wheels "cheaper" ones are not very stiffer compared with professional ones so could be a factor to be considered. Thanks for the video !
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