That first Twins game resulting in 4 slugs and 2 people giving up is about the most twins thing.

People are going to forget all about this video by the time they find a twins to play against 😂

I like the idea of this series. What you should do Tofu play 1 or 2 games in pubs and hopefully have the "what not to do" side then showcase a scrim of "what to do" while commenting over the gameplay. I would find that super useful

I don’t play against twins often but when I do I know I’m getting slugged.

I personally would love to see a follow up video for this killer as well as every killer on how to "counter play" and adapt to the killer. You could go into both the beginner aspects like a breakdown of how the power works and some related techs to deal with them. (Anything like holding victor hostage or disarming a trapper trap allowing someone to walk across it while its still 'disarming') You also could address the most common/popular addons to lookout for and how to recognize or deal with those. I like the idea of each of these "Have Survivors learned to play against X" each having a video "Here's how to play Survivor against X" almost making each killer have a two part episode. Great vid as always Tofu! Get some rest and feel better!

A series on everything I hate about solo q lmao this is gonna turn out being some good content

Can't wait for the Plague and Hag editions of this series 😂

The follow up video showing a comp game against the killer and highlighting what to do and not to do would be a great idea

That's a GOOD idear to explain why survivor get rekt on a game against "Thing" because a lot of survivor still NOT UNDERSTAND what they have to do to play against ! Thx Ohtofu for that !

Would love to see pinhead as part of this series. Notorious pub stomp killer, I find him really interesting but wish more people understood his mechanics.

Hmm I don’t understand why anyone would give up… That looked like a real fun match

This is actually really good video. I realized some people dunno how to play against Hag cause so little people play her. Specially when they run rusty shackles.

the thing is the person saying learn to play is even funnier because there is a blue glyph challenge where alll you have to do is interreact with it so you were both right

The two times i played against twins, i have noticed that the most annoying thing is that kicking victor means basically nothing. Yes, he is back to Charlotte if i kick him after he misses... Then i get like 10 seconds on the gen before he is pouncing on top of me again. I feel like the counterplay does nothing, and the only thing that let me escape one of those games is just how clunky Twins are, that changing between the baby and Charlotte takes longer than the cooldown after kicking Victor...

“Learn how to play the game” for not knowing what each of the 100 glyphs do is hilarious to me

Excellent, a series that you can make content for forever!

Great idea for a video format. Thumbs up!

Funny you make this video, I had a game last night where survivors were staying grouped up at all times against me on Twins. Which as you can imagine, made the typical playstyle quite difficult.

We need a "how to play against" series from a Killer main!

I would love to see some pro survivors play against twins with your commentary

The blue glyph has versions where you do and don't have to escape.

My friend has been playing almost exclusively survivor for like 5 years. Like a week ago he still hadn't thought of just holding Victor...

THREE GAME TEST SAMPLE????!! This is as thorough the world health organization

@OhTofu I like watching you because I enjoy your commentary and gameplay. I like your commentary because you have a good voice and good personality, I think you're funny and charming. I like your gameplay because you're high skill. You make plays that I don't think of, sometimes so subtle I'd miss them or not understand unless you explain. That's why I get the most out of your videos commentating your own gameplay. I think the idea of you explaining perfect gameplay for tricky builds sounds awesome, like an encyclopedia of perfect play. I'd really prefer watching YOU execute the plays, though. When you cast someone else's gameplay, I'm less emotionally invested because that person is not the one I'm talking to- er, being talked at by. It also makes me think they might've just done the most direct means to victory, while you sometimes go out of your way to force a scenario for a teaching moment. I trust your experience and knowledge, but if you're hesitant or feel unconfident, maybe hire a specialized coach or recruit a comp player to help you outline every relevant counterplay for a particular subject. Otherwise, I think a good approach might be a slight change-up to your usual format. I'm thinking an outlined guide going through points of counterplay with highlights taken from competitive gameplay. That would cut out a lot of the fluff (that is someone I don't know playing a full game out at skill levels that make the game almost unrecognizable) and be just the moments that resemble chases that I might see and can learn from, guided by your lovely commentary. Sorry for text wall, looking forward to all your future vids!

The input radius to kick him is deceivingly small as far as I remember. That's why people walk in and out after the miss.

Victor's weakness is trees. Had a guy try to jump me for three gens looping a tree. Probably new killer, but still Victor can't get the right angle looping trees.

I like that the Karen is a twitchy and she's telling you 'learn to play the game" - jeez Tofu, ya n00b!

One thing that people don't know they can do when going against the twins is that they can just make as much distance as possible away from Charlotte while Victor is chasing you and just jump into a locker... you don't get injured/slugged and Charlotte has to make her way over to you before you knock Victor out of the locker... If you were far enough, you should be ok before Charlotte comes close to the locker. When you hear her send out Victor, make as much distance as possible away from her so if Victor finds you, you can just do the locker strat. Edit: Just got to 18:40 and Tofu explained exactly this pretty well..

Honestly I thought that the proposed bonus video was gonna be the last game of this video. It's kinda high-effort content so I feel you if you don't do it, but if later videos in this series were the Two Solo Queue Games of Scientific Method followed by the One Scrim Game, I think that'd be a good cadence.

Twins are my guilty pleasure killer. Generally I enjoy playing them and do so whenever there isn't a critical bug on them. Many survivors don't know how to face twins and many twins players don't know how to play them ether so here are some tips There are two different schools on how to play twins Victor first and Charlette first. Victor first is about using Victor to attack a survivor first for pressure. This is great for slowing the game down.The downside is that Victor is often kidnapped by some survivors leaving you a m1 killer. Charlette first is about using Victor to finish a chase. This makes chases a breeze...however The downsides are you need to get a hit first and Victor is often somewhere near the survivor and you have to trek over to hook them. And that can cause a ton of complications. Both playstyles are great and viable but learning to swap between is the best. Victor can make quick work of many chases and be used to shut a survivor down for long periods of time. Broken status effect is twins best friend. Their best perk is forced penance due to the fact that slugging is a part of the process for twins your gonna be able to get a lot of protection hits. Anything to keep survivors hurt. Franklins is another wonderful perk as greedy survivors will try to loop back for their stuff which can give you a great opportunity to hit them with Victor or have charlette proxy camp some charges off the item. The best way to aim Victor is to aim in a direction and try to strafe until the target can be pounced. They also must hit the butt of a injured survivor because the hitboxes are garbage. Other good perks on twins oppression, pain res, gift of pain, hysteria, tinker, sloppy, thrilling trimmers, knockout, jolt. I haven't played twins in a while so I don't know how the newer perks work but that hindered one is nasty.

You should name the series "have survivors learned?" So you can also throw in add-ons and perks too

I really like this idea of the series

I’m such a sicko, I LOVE watching Twins gameplay

Love this New Serries Idea! ❤

I think people group up in the worst moments,for are too greedy. Second match they were always around, and injured. And why no one use the lockers😔 This video tho, it's so good. Can't wait to get to that Sadako's one. Nice stuff as always Tofu💞

To counter twins you hold Victor hostage that's what I always do and it works pretty well for me I love when Victor is on my back and if they want Victor back they have to chase and down me Or I could just go into a locker and waste time like that then hope out last second when the bar is full depends if there close or not Just keep Victor on you for as long we possible

Dead By Daylight Survivors! What do they know? Do they know things? Let's find out!

Based on my experience, they really haven't. HOWEVER, it is *so* damn fun to face a squad that does now how to counter my nonsense. Last night I had a wild game on Thompson House against a group that played incredibly efficiently. Reset away from gens, didn't allow me to snowball, baited Victor shots well, the works. Such a damn good time when it all comes together.

Every time I see a Feng wearing bunny sweater, I just want to pick them up and throw them into a garbage can.

I liked the series because I didn't know the 'correct' way to play Twins anyway.

I think if you were to upload a video on how to counter twins it could be really helpful for people who are trying to get into comp. Maybe not so much for pubs players since you only see a (good) twins player once every 2,000 matches.

Ngl I personally really like it when people hold victor hostage cuz I'm a fairly confident m1 killer. So what usually happens when someone is like, "dw guys I'll hold on to victor" is i ignore them and down someone else and they're doing litterally nothing. I only recall victor when I need him so I'm cool with basically a free downed survivor.

All they would have to do in my opinion to make it abit more fair on the survivors is make the cooldown time for victor longer. Right now kicking him is almost pointless because he recharges and is ready to go almost instantly and can very quickly get anywhere on the map. You kick him and within about 10/15 seconds he's already back on you even if you're far away. Victor should have a 20+ second cool down rate to make it abit more fair. It's lucky hardly anyone uses the twins because they are OP when someone who knows what they are doing is using them.

would love to see a pinhead video done this way

After seeing what perks they were running… and then having the audacity to say learn to play the game…is such a survivor mindset

last time I played twins, I tried to play fair... until the survivors started saboing hooks and body blocking and doing everything in their power to make sure I couldn't pick anyone up. Got super salty when I got sick of it and slugged them all for the 4k, like, what did they really expect?

How to play against legion wwould be nice. Stuff like 99ing your mend if the legion is still running around in frenzy, window teching. Even stuff like camping a pallet or legion teching yourself to stop the legion from chaining frenzy hits.

love this new "thing"!

The #1 thing you do against Twins is heal. Also use lockers when Victor is active, but mostly, just make sure you heal.

For sure do an explanation video to spread awareness of what the correct play is against twins or sadako in future

I remember when twins came out

Hey tofu. Love the vids. P100 twins main here. Also arguably have the fastest 4k in the world at 2:38. I literally have a tech that shouldn't be a tech n it's called the "I don't play against twins ever/ never/ rarely tech (lol you choose which word to use) basicly if I pounce on a survivor I believe is a weak link or atleast the less exp player (Normally pouncing on a survivor IL leave them to it n cause trouble elsewhere to apply more pressure) less exp players I can follow up w an m1 easily cause they try shaking vic off immediately n are not aware survivors stop in place** to remove vic lol. There is other techs but cause this was the title of your vid I thought I'd share.

They literally haven’t. They still go inside lockers 😂😂😂

One question kinda unrelated to the video. I've been seeing the "package loss" symbol pop up multiple times throughout your video. Is that a new problem for you? Because I've been having problems with package loss since the last update and was wondering if that was a bug or just my net.

i am an artist main and i feel most people dont know how to play against her...maybe just cause im at lower mmr? maybe cause she isnt a common killer? but i think that could make another vid for this series.

I think Knight might be a good killer for this type of video. He's not played often and even tho his counterplay isn't too complex it could make good content. Oh, and obviously Hag too

I can't tell you how many Twins games I've played where survivors will take Victor off rather than save their teammates off hook because they think Vic blocks that ability

I love this! Please more!

I will literally watch any content Tofu wants to do lol.

six minutes in: this was a good game one. THERE ARE 19 more minutes, what happens?!

Perhaps shout out to other streamers/content creators who main the killer in question as well.

I'm predicting no. Because nobody plays against twins.

Best strat against Twins: Step 1: listen out for the sound prompt when victor is released Step 2: alt-F4 and go and do something actually enjoyable

Short answer: no Reason: how rare they are in the wild

I love this idea

The idea seem cool!

Step 1: kidnap Victor Step 2: profit??

I feel no one has learned to play against hag...😂😂 like the forgotten about killers are probably the most intresting. Twins though is probably the least played but honestly one of the hardest snowballing killers.

Most people are horrible at adapting to change so they just auto-pilot and hope for a good outcome.

Will you do another tournament with swish?

Have survivors learned to play against Legion? The counterplay forever has been to split up and not heal but legion is still so good against non swf players. Could be interesting

As a solo q shitter Pinhead, Hag, and Skull merchant seem to have the hardest counterplay for my random teammates. (Prob twins too but I have not played against a Twins in years so don't know)

I really like this series but I would love to see it without perks and addons. Is this series supposed to be sweaty or basic comprehension of counterplay? How much of your win was due to perks/addons and how much was due to pure counterplay?

Survivors have not learned how to counter Plague. Pretty sure I have Max MMR since I rarely get anything less than a 3 or 4k and I still get survivors that cleanse the whole match giving me my power. There seems to be always one person that drags the whole team down with their feeding.

You sounded like the clown when you coughed 😂

hey, can u find out if the anti hook thing works for victor??

So learning to play against the Twins is just "don't get hit so you can't be slugged for 4 minutes". Other than that is there even any real counterplay?

This is why I stopped playing lol why could I not just have a crouching Mikala that waits for you to hit them.

Oh tofu please do trickster next!

Have people learned to play against scratched mirror myers?

if you need to live to get blue glyphs to work anyways, why is she stopping midchase to channel it

I like the idea, but the name of the series needs workshopped. Maybe "Do Survs Know How?" type of way

What about putting up some vids people sent in as they weren't sure why they lost-if you still have them? Not sure how much that would help considering your other suggestions although

Every twins killer I've gone against swears they are low tier and have probably never played the game before

ive been playing this game since like… 2018 and seriously struggle. maybe one competitive game explanation, and a shorter tail end saying what us soloque pub gamers need to do !

i feel u just dont play enough Twins Tofu, i play them quite a bit and about 50% of the survivors i get know how to play against this killer.

how can i learn how to play against twins if i have 500 hours and i played against twins 3 times in total.

The biggest strength of the twins is that nobody plays them.

Twins content!!

tofu how dare you not know how some obscure tome challenge works, you noob

Upload comp twins gameplay plz

People don't go against Twins enough ngl if I get twins someone dcs might even be me cause it's gonna be a boring match

Toxic Tofu series when?

We want HAG

Why did I just now get the notification?

have survivors learned to play against the hag? The answer is no and it is pretty sad

I dont want twins to get reworked 😢

how can survivors learn to counter the twins nobody plays them cuz they are bugged to hell

I really like the idea of this series, theres many killers people still dont really understand power wise and many people refuse to bother understanding. Another issue is that your counterplay doesnt always feel like its working especially when your against a more experienced player playing that killer, although on their side they are definitely feeling the fight. Its not super conducive to video output but i think increasing the sample size to a few games multiple days throughout the week would be a pretty decent sample size and allow you to get videos on weak/no counterplay, medium, and proper counterplay without needing to grab from scrims and allow for a much easier platform to talk through what they did wrong or right. You can still stick to two matches per video but youd have a better idea of the general community baseline. As a sadako main i am definitely looking forward to her entry in the series. Pre rework people just outright refused(and rightfully so sometimes) to even bother interacting with her power, and now post rework people are too stubborn to WANT to interact with her power which has become mandatory. As much fun as quick condemns are its pretty disheartening that the communities refusal to counter her has caused a vast majority of sadako mains to jump ship and abandon playing her entirely.

I think the premise is a little flawed in that, I think enough people know how to play against twins... but those people don't want to play against twins. Twins games are often very boring, drawn out slug fests, which is a problem for 2 reasons. New players don't know what to do and give up. Experienced players do know what to do, but get little or no enjoyment out of the gameplay and they give up and go next.