Have TaylorMade Got It WRONG With Their 2024 DRIVERS?
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@leesaving82414 ай бұрын
My mini arrived… Love it 22 handicapper According to arccos: 215yds 55%fairways. Old driver cobra ltdx 220yds 23% fairways
@timgarcia26304 ай бұрын
My situation…I’m a really poor player. I went into my local golf shop to buy the Mini Driver. The golf pro had me hit 8diff drivers I was surprised how much better the ball flight was than my current 10yr old driver. After all of the adjustments he did I walked out with the Qi10 Max. It was more consistent to help my horrible swing. I’m very pleased
@ivorhughes03074 ай бұрын
Got one TM mini - 2 weeks in and it’s amazing. Still out driving mates and bullet straight. ❤
@tonycooper33854 ай бұрын
James I think it is a little of Times Repeating..Learnt to play in the late 70’s early 80’s with my Granddads wood woods and blade irons ..Had a 2 and 4 wood, as Nan always said “Only Pro’s Hit Drivers and 3 woods..Probably applies Today ..Cheers James
@jdard53084 ай бұрын
The mini- driver over 18 holes!
@rendendye87414 ай бұрын
I have the mini driver anybody that struggles with a drive I highly recommend getting the mini driver! Best purchase if you want to go with a driver go with the ping SFT.
@shaunkelley554 ай бұрын
Played my first round the other day with the BRNR Mini, and all I can say is WOW this Driver is Phenomenal, I purchased the 11.5 positioned the heavyweight forward and Boom, it looks and feels incredible, so easy to hit, I hit every required fairway with no loss in distance this thing is a weapon couldn’t be happier
@theythinkimmadyouknow4 ай бұрын
Are you seeing it as a replacement for main driver? I'm very tempted...
@shaunkelley554 ай бұрын
@@theythinkimmadyouknow I originally wasn’t but after playing a round with it and setting it up as I do, with potential to drop it down to 9.5 as well I think I will, it’s probably the best feeling club I’ve ever hit, you feel like you can’t miss with it, if you get one you won’t regret it trust me 👍
@ivorhughes03074 ай бұрын
I would second that 👌
@theythinkimmadyouknow4 ай бұрын
@@ivorhughes0307 blimey, feel an investment comin on....
@markbrookes69153 ай бұрын
Still playing mini driver original 1 & will not come out of my bag @ anytime average 240 - 260 METERS bullet tracers plus of the deck love it
@davidsuire51554 ай бұрын
I actually tried a driver shaft in a strong paradym 3wood and created my on minidriver. It’s actually working great thru 5 rounds. It saved me some money over buying the new brnr.
@haxhiabedin95364 ай бұрын
I have last year’s BRNR (11.5°) and absolutely love it. It’s actually replaced my driver entirely.
@seanconnors76394 ай бұрын
When I’ve tried mini drivers in the past, I find that they pretty much mirror the performance of my driver. If I am hitting the driver “straight” that day, the mini driver will go also go “straight” thought it will be 15 to 25 yards shorter. If I am hitting the driver all over the planet, the mini driver will also go all over the planet also about 15 to 25 yards shorter. I’ve never found the “magic wand” mini driver where the driver will be all over the planet, but the mini driver will just be “straight” down the middle! Would love to see a test where you give this to a high handicap who is struggling with their driver accuracy and see if they can hit the mini driver consistently down the fairway.
@abstractavltd.95714 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head james! I love it because I can tee low and not worry about a low strike as its soo good low of the face👍
@tobychunn4 ай бұрын
I wonder what you think about a shorter shaft in a regular driver head? A homemade mini-driver.
@user-wq8zs9mi4p2 ай бұрын
Got fitted. The Mini driver was great, but maxed out. I was hitting the Qi10 same distance just, but there was definitely more in it still. So we discussed it and ordered a Qi10 with the shorter shaft. I hope it pans out.
@andrewhsieh22523 ай бұрын
If the consistency comes from the shorter shaft, can I just shorten the length of my Qi10 and make my own Qi10 mini.😂
@kevinjager1243 ай бұрын
The problem with doing that is you mess with the swing weight
@williamfischer52504 ай бұрын
If it only had a bubble shaft! 😂
@LTZ_Z714 ай бұрын
I tried the mini driver and it's fantastic; however, it only really shined for me as a potential driver replacement with the adjustment sleeve turned down to 9.5*. With it set at 9.5*, I was only a few yards behind my normal PXG Black Ops Tour driver but I was all but guaranteed to be in the fairway. It really was that good.
@Tech-xr2ms4 ай бұрын
Had the mini driver for a bit now. I'll always pull out the driver first. If I find that on the first few holes I can't hit driver well, I'll use the mini driver. Very consistent with the mini, absolutely love it.
@krisjames9994 ай бұрын
Sold my 2023 mini driver on eBay, struggled as much as I did with a driver so went back to a sim2.
@atfinthehouse86314 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff comparing how combinations of different clubs can give similar results. Shorter drive, longer club next shot. Longer drive, shorter club next shot. Then evaluate frequency of hitting your target where you wanted to go. Keep the ball in play with each subsequent shot with best chance for success. Combination of course management plus club combination, selection and how and in what orders you string them together.
@petejohnston5181Ай бұрын
So glad you did this test
@richardnixon48934 ай бұрын
They look great James .Will have to wait till they start to appear on 2nd hand market though. Price is king.
@gilbertgoldsmith11584 ай бұрын
I have the first mini driver the sldr, when my driver goes bad I use my mini driver. When it is in the bag I take the driver out so that I am not tempted to hit it. My scores are usually 2 strokes lower with the mini because it is a fairway finder.
@jameskeen33212 ай бұрын
Let’s call the mini driver what it is a #2 wood. Its best use would be for a player looking cut out a club by combining the functionality of driver and 3 wood together. However with 14 club bag there is rarely a case you need to combine the too. Maybe in a format where you use 7 clubs or less it’s going to really shine as it allows you to get an extra scoring iron or wedge instead of packing two separate woods
@richardskinner50504 ай бұрын
I just purchased the TM Mini Driver as a strong 3 wood. This club is not a replacement for my driver at 9 degrees. Mini Driver is 13.5 and 5 wood at 19 degrees. The mini driver is a weapon out off the tee. And also works great off the fairway or out of the first cut.
@robster2304 ай бұрын
I'd deffo like to see you try that dual ball idea with both full and mini driver.
@chopper13104 ай бұрын
I have the QI10 Max and the 2024 Mini Driver (11.5 degree version) My miss is a slice and the QI10 max is pretty bullet proof in solving that. I use the BRNR off the tee on tighter fairways and off the deck it is an absolute rocket! Its probably overkill having both but when i saw the new BRNR i couldnt resist! I look at the BRNR as a 3 wood on steroids - both are 2 of the best clubs ive ever bought.
@firesidecode90654 ай бұрын
I have a mini driver in 13.5 with a regular shaft. I think I need to do an 11.5 with a stiff. The problem is no place has any available to test so you have to buy and try and return if it doesn’t work out. It’s frustrating.
@WilliamWright-hf8ob4 ай бұрын
I like to run both the driver and the mini driver , then the 3HL/4wood ,22 degree hybrid , nice options at the top of the bag , driver down wind , mini into the wind and narrow holes.
@tomsanger55484 ай бұрын
The mini-driver is basically an old, old school 2 wood. 13.5 loft with a longer shaft & bigger head & face than a 3 wood. The other driver is designed with a longer shaft where you are supposed to use a bigger arc of a swing & let the shaft do the work for you. James has a very tight restrictive swing so is not getting the max out of the Qi10. He's swinging it like a 3 wood & thus getting 3 wood distance out of it. If the mini was great you'd see it all over the tours but its for people who can't hit a fairway with the lower loft & longer shaft of a normal driver. Phil is using the similar 2 wood from Callaway.
@al13563 ай бұрын
It’s not designed for tour players, they can keep the ball in play at over 330 yards. It’s designed for the amateur players who create too much side spin hence the loft and shaft length
@Slaphitter4 ай бұрын
At the end of the day the Mini Driver is basically a 2 wood. The deep face on the Mini, like a driver, is (for me) much easier to hit confidently than a 3 wood or even a 5 wood. For me there is room in the bag for both my 10.5* driver and my 13.5* mini. There are situations where you want a tee shot a little shorter than a driver, and some situations where your confidence is low and a fairway wood is just easier to get in play. So I carry both.
@imagolfer19734 ай бұрын
Bought a Mini Driver. Love it.
@fredercolani4 ай бұрын
The mini driver is still bigger head wise than what we played in the 80’s and 90’s. Shaft length was around the same. I’ve yet to try the mini driver but plan too soon.
@aronlamb97264 ай бұрын
I got the first sldr while battling a slice with driver. I then got a driver and struggled, then got the Original one mini and I got to my lowest handicap. Fixed my swing and got a Sim2. I missed out on the 300 series mini and the first brnr release. Just got the copper brnr re release. I played my best golf with a mini driver and went backwards everytime I went to a full driver. Ego is a game killer
@ageshart45234 ай бұрын
Great video and excellent explanation of the pros and cons of both
@liamdobson66244 ай бұрын
Just got hands on my new Mini. It’s absolutely unreal, both visually and on the course. Do it, buy into the hype 🔥
@craigbailey26284 ай бұрын
very interesting comparison James. and yes I would like to see a head to head over 18 holes.
@klaymoon14 ай бұрын
Great review! Can you try to knock down a couple more degrees on the mini driver to make the loft similar and compare to your Q10 again?
@christopherchavez61552 ай бұрын
I have the old one I’m gonna change the shaft, it’s stiff. Bet it will be better
@larrylarry92784 ай бұрын
Rory has mini driver at RBC this week .
@troyrambo68044 ай бұрын
He's using it because Harbor town at his length off the tee he hits into trouble areas with his Qi10. Mini driver keeps him 25 yards short of that. At least that's what was said.
I carry the 23 mini BRNR and tbh I like it off the tee more than my LTDx.
@GONADSable4 ай бұрын
Yes I agree more golfers would play better with a mini driver ,more loft 13.5 degrees and shorter shaft love it
@ryansylvester3034 ай бұрын
I've got both. got the QI10 Max in a 9'" and then the Brnr in the 11.5" which I can turn to when im not confident or worried it's a narrow fairway, im a high handicapper and enjoying it so far as tee shots on par 4/5 are my weakness at this point.
@ronmullard57184 ай бұрын
I have 2 TM mini drivers ...SLDR and 300 series ....like them both and on a good day hit them further than full driver...
@derbananenliebendepavian87214 ай бұрын
I think a "normal" big headed driver with more loft would help a lot of people. 12 to 15 degrees, depending on swing speed. Might not maximize distance, but much easier to keep the ball in play...
@matth81454 ай бұрын
Just crank up the loft on the sleeve, that also closes the face which helps if you’re a slicer (like me!)
@NETracksAndTrails4 ай бұрын
I’ve been using a Sim Max 3 wood with almost a driver length shaft off the tee recently and it’s honestly been pretty good. I like hitting 3 wood off the tee way more than driver just way more consistent with it. I’d be all in for trying a mini driver they seem electric!
@Paul-viking4 ай бұрын
I liked to see 2 balls off the tee test! I have SLDR mini and "The Original One" mini but neither made it in my bag for any length of time.
@aedobrews38874 ай бұрын
Have my mini 13.5 degree in the bag as my course is tight. Loving it so far. More fairways for sure
@tomsanger55484 ай бұрын
It's a 2 wood in reality so of course is more accurate than a normal driver.
@jamielahugh83164 ай бұрын
I look at the mini more as a 3 wood replacement than a driver replacement. I hit very few 3 woods into greens. Mostly hitting it when my driver is trash. So why not go with the mini? 5wood/hybrid/apex uw is more for hitting into greens for me personally. Talked my self into a mini driver that I probably don’t need
@kevintee74374 ай бұрын
its all about being on the fairway for me James,. Also good marketing as TM don't release them at the same time and wait a few months!
@atamagashock4 ай бұрын
Got mine 2-3 hrs after they released. Been messing with different shafts and lofts, and I think I got it pretty dialed. Probably gonna keep it as my only driver for now, with my 3,5,7 woods
@adupuy4 ай бұрын
Thanks, James. I was fitted into a Qi10 (12-degree with the Speeder shaft-lightweight stiff). I would love to try the Mini Driver, but I don't think it would work for me because of the heavier shaft. Nonetheless, I am still very much in the honeymoon period with the driver. It's a tad longer than my previous gamer but much more consistent with a normal ball flight of a baby fade. I love this comparison. Do that 18-hole comparison.
@thomastruscott40644 ай бұрын
James I love that you are reviewing to help golfers ..not just product...thanks
@suringhelani52184 ай бұрын
Love to get one of these mini drivers. Yes please do a round with both to see if you score better with one over the other. My stealth 2 plus isn’t behaving at the moment and I’m considering an upgrade.
@ZahraIsMyDog4 ай бұрын
Answer is normal driver and lessons.
@Ibizassini4 ай бұрын
James why not go mini in the 11.5 loft model? Did you compare numbers between 13.5 and 11.5 ones would love to see that to figure out which one to try buying… wonder if the 11.5 is still manageable off the deck
@tonyjburns054 ай бұрын
18 holes test of mini vs normal driver would be good. It would be great to record (even roughly) the distance of each drive with both, then get an average drive length for each. Mini should hit more Fairways but the difference in average distance could actually be close if you factor in any bad mishits with the big driver. Maybe. Obviously main driver will hit the longest one off drives
@JoeCothern-lv8zx4 ай бұрын
Definitely mini driver, great video keep them coming. Cheers
@DeonHansen-rb4lo4 ай бұрын
I’d like to see you compare a mini driver to a 3 wood.
@tomsanger55484 ай бұрын
3 wood smaller head & a little more loft generally. All this is is a 2 wood. Nothing revolutionary about it.
@geecars88874 ай бұрын
Great video I would love for you to compare this mini burner with the last one that came out. See if there’s any difference besides the color.
@CarlZ170074 ай бұрын
Just picked up the mini driver, absolutely love it. I only had a range session with it so far but I love the results. I sold my Stealth driver and 3 wood. In my bag I have the mini driver, 5 wood, 3 hybrid, 4 hybrid, 6-Sand wedge (all stealth), hi-toe 58 and Jailbird putter. I have one spot left, do I game 13 or maybe look at a Sim 2 max driver? I just can’t get on with the carbon from the Stealth and I don’t have the money for a Qi10. Thanks.
@IverKnackerov4 ай бұрын
So a slightly shorter, slightly more lofted club is slightly more accurate and slightly less long ……who knew 🤷♂️
@commonman3174 ай бұрын
Both are great clubs. But, I would like to try the mini. James seems to favor it too.
@abstractavltd.95714 ай бұрын
Id love a vid with a 15-18 handicap guy doing a 18 hole test with driver vs mini driver??? No one else has done that! Would be awesome
@smilingeyes724 ай бұрын
I grew up playing a mini-driver - but we called it a 2 wood.
@robbaldock31934 ай бұрын
would love to see you do a full review of both. I am interested in the mini driver
@terrylucas86884 ай бұрын
James, why did BRNR mini catch fire vs the TM Original One and TM 300 minis? Stigma from previous gen minis?
@user-ev8hx8ch2l4 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video comparing both for a full round
@Erictheking664 ай бұрын
Bring out a 460cc burner with the same forward and back weight, and I'll have one. It would be similar to the cally ai td
@thego-o-dstuff10363 ай бұрын
Surely it has to be as easy as using a shorter shafted driver.
@WIB0814 ай бұрын
Keep last years mini driver in the bag for the days when my LTDx decides that we aren’t friends and it saved me numerous times last year and probably will this year also
@fretless054 ай бұрын
I did test a mini driver, but sadly, the shop was busy and I didn't get any help with it. I tried the 11.5 and the 13 in both regular and stiff and just couldn't find a swing with any of them to get good launch and spin data. I suspect if anyone in the store could have given me the time to make adjustments to the clubs, I might have been able to figure it out, but it was not to be. I saw the potential, but couldn't get distance numbers that really beat my 3W- again, maybe I would have if I could have gotten it fitted. Sadly, everyone is sold out since TM made so few of these.
@LoreTunderin4 ай бұрын
It makes sense intuitively why a mini would be a good option. Unless you're smashing perfect fairway shots every time, chances are you're giving back some shots to recover from your imperfect tee shots. Golf is all about consistency and, all else being equal, a shorter club will give you more control. 20 more yards won't help if it's straight into the woods next to the course. 😂
@unclejim23304 ай бұрын
I used to hit the old bubble burner off the deck all the time. 🤷♀️
@JamesRobinsonGolf4 ай бұрын
Baller
@jeffreyjarmusz5942 ай бұрын
I would love to see the mini vs regular driver
@blazecan18944 ай бұрын
Yes to the 18 hole 2 ball test please. 😊
@Sidmi5utc4 ай бұрын
Yes the Qi10k. Nelly Korda likes it so much that she currently has a Titleist driver in the bag...🤔
@davidcooper33174 ай бұрын
I hope you have GIVEN that skied BRNR to mid handicap Dave.. you have the NEW one James....
@pauljohnston36844 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a full match between you and Gaz where one of you uses the mini driver and the other uses the Q10
@peariejones62534 ай бұрын
Yes James. You okay the mini have Chris play the QI 10 let see how many fairways each of you hit!
@chrisbobbitt57064 ай бұрын
I would love to see the 2 ball test
@nickw77534 ай бұрын
If you're going to compare the mini to it's big brother why don't you show dispersion of the two rather than distance? Especially since the driver is going to be longer and one of the selling points of the mini is that you hit more fairways. Note - I have the 2023 mini in the bag along with driver and use it where I'd use a 3 wood off the tee. Great club! 👍
@tommiethatcher72654 ай бұрын
Great head to head James
@El_Oso773734 ай бұрын
You know they used to say. A well struck 3 wood could be as good as driver off the tee. Maybe that’s why the mini driver is just as good.
@tomsanger55484 ай бұрын
Call it what it is...a larger face lower loft 3 wood. Thus a 2 wood. I used to have one in the 1960's along with my driver so I could burn it off the fairways & hit tighter fairways with less distance than driver As I recall I didn't use a 3 wood but instead had a 4 wood that replaced a 3 iron. That arrangement was not socially acceptable in manly golfing circles but now the pros are even going to 7 woods.
@DH-tp9ns4 ай бұрын
Yes, do the 2-ball challenge.
@DH-tp9ns4 ай бұрын
Mini-driver all the way.
@matthewsmith-bz5vx4 ай бұрын
im so confussed with the mini driver, is the mini driver supossed to replace the driver or the 3 wood?
@discr17094 ай бұрын
For me, neither. I use it off the tee on shorter par 4’s and holes with tight fairways. I use my driver for longer and more open holes. Off the fairway I use a 17 degree Callaway UW.
@Nate-yl8kl4 ай бұрын
18 holes with the mini driver !!! James 😎
@markryan28964 ай бұрын
Sshhhh🤫 well played Bobby. 🤘🏻🇦🇺
@MyAbedul4 ай бұрын
Both in the bag => QI10 9º && BRNR 13,5º
@earlydaysseaangling0074 ай бұрын
Yes i be up for seeing and using a mini driver and founding out if it suits me
@DonAl91144 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😊🇩🇪
@kellycoates50274 ай бұрын
Lets see you play driver and mini driver to see what would happen.
@user-ev8hx8ch2l4 ай бұрын
Have you ever tested the Teton hybrid drivers? I would love to see a video on the 12 degree Teton hybrid driver against the mini driver!
@starks19744 ай бұрын
We need some Mid-handicap Mark to do some proper testing with the Mini-Driver...or Foxxy.
@Goonertopcat4 ай бұрын
Sorry James but I only use my mini driver from last year, I’ve never been able to hit a normal driver for some reason but my mini is so consistent for me which is strange, but I fancy swapping it for this years
@DMKFACTOR4 ай бұрын
I demoed the Qi10, and it was terrible! Too spiny, and I lost yardage vs my PXG Gen 5! The Gen 5 0311 was almost 10 yards longer! If you struggle to get the ball in the air then it may help you. If you struggle with too much spin like most amateurs do, then this is probably NOT the driver for you!
@brianmcpeake25094 ай бұрын
I would like to see a mid handicapper play 9 holes with both drivers. Maybe Foxy, Dave or Mark? It's the distance vs accuracy for the average golfer that is intriguing to me. A pro will hit the mini 20+ yards longer than we will with our driver.
@DannyBoy-jy1kq4 ай бұрын
Yeah got last years mini. Love it.
@philiphautzenroeder57074 ай бұрын
I wanted to buy a mini driver and went to the Taylormade website to order one. Being a senior I wanted the lightest shaft they offered. They had the shaft listed but the shaft was unavailable until September. I don’t get it!
@illskillz054 ай бұрын
How do you think the mini driver would compare to something like the m2 with a shorter shaft? Also, I would be interested to see you play an entire round with just the mini driver and see how you do. As somone who misses a lot of fairways with a driver, I use my hybrids a lot off the tee. I get a similar distance about 230yards and was thinking about getting the mini driver to see if it helps.
@davemarshall27564 ай бұрын
I have huge issues hitting a shorter driver shaft. Tried the PXG 0211 which comes with a shorter shaft. Have huge problems hitting up on the ball. End up with low shots which means I am at the mercy of the turf.