Having Trouble Instant Double Jumping? It's Easier Than You Think

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2 жыл бұрын

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@tuzicomet 2 жыл бұрын

Frame perfect idj with seph uair actually doesn't autocancel, so it's better to do it this way

@Tonjit41 2 жыл бұрын

@TheSouthernStocking 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know. Thanks you!

@stephaniecurry45 2 жыл бұрын

I mean it still might if you don’t fast fall it

@postboy2242 11 ай бұрын

Damn so you're not allowed to be too good

@BLamb 2 жыл бұрын

I also just press the jump button twice really fast. By far the easiest method for me.

@infiltrate6807 2 жыл бұрын

I just start mashing jump until I see the circle thing

@20quidd 2 жыл бұрын

I have my 2nd jump as Z button lol

@stephaniecurry45 2 жыл бұрын

I like double jumping just yo evade stuff so frame perfect is helpfil

@matthewcabagelover9993 2 жыл бұрын

probably not instant tho

@chadadams2338 2 жыл бұрын

depending on your character this method is not good for tight combos, but it can work

@kilojayfalcon 2 жыл бұрын

i really do think this option opens up potential for new stuff for characters. coming from a falcon main who uses it in more way than one when the occasion comes, its a good thing to have in the arsenal

@Nate3417 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually super useful Especially the information on all the variations of up air you can auto cancel That's a whole lot of range you can cover!

@mrperry3361 2 жыл бұрын

Set your left bumper to jump and press it right before you press x or y or whatever normal jump button you normally use. If you practice you can actually get frame perfect idjs consistently. Smarter not harder.

@xenov4480 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nairo and team for this upload this is very helpful lol

@CaptainG-zero 2 жыл бұрын

This helps me a lot, thanks Nairo. 🙏

@wesleyem3 2 жыл бұрын

Personally I use tap jump, so I first flick my stick up then press X. Then just direct the aireal in whatever direction I want.

@su9cp 2 жыл бұрын

Cringe

@Extreme11 2 жыл бұрын

Fuck tap jump man

@Xxblade17 2 жыл бұрын

I guess?

@pierreaoun9600 2 жыл бұрын

mfs when they bash on you for your controls for absolutely no reason

@su9cp 2 жыл бұрын

@@pierreaoun9600 another tap jump cringe lord?

@transformerssurprise7563 Жыл бұрын

This is a great explanation. A lot of other content I saw on the topic went for some mystifying explanation of using two different jump buttons and there stuff. I'm sure those people were getting the jump closer the ground, but the reality is that this is good enough.

@tashi32_ 2 жыл бұрын

something that also makes it easier is if you buffer the first jump at the end of a move like a throw and do the aerial right before you buffer the 2nd jump during the move. raw idj is harder for sure

@Meow-hj4td 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a tap jump player, and I have been for years. It is actually INCREDIBLY easy for tap jumpers to do frame perfect idj's, Just up on the analog stick and press jump, you can ever buffer an idj short hop aerial frame perfectly

@MrGameguyC 2 жыл бұрын

Nairo makes a great teacher.

@adilfhortler1398 2 жыл бұрын

I use four jump buttons. One on left trigger, one on right bumper, then x and y. I use the shoulder button along with x to do idjs and I've been consistent with them since day one cause of it. All those jump bottoms just allow me to use jump while simultaneously doing other things more comfortably. Like being able to use c stick while jumping and holding a direction all at the same time, and things like attack cancels are way easier

@mastamelon 2 жыл бұрын

What I do for an IDJ is that, with stick jump enabled, I flick the stick up and press the X button at the same time. Not the best way but its what I do....

@masu5781 2 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely the best way as a stick player too. I play Byleth a lot and down throw into idj with stick up and x+a makes the combo true so often and sometimes will get kills. Super reliable imo

@peperlake9502 2 жыл бұрын

tap jump O.o

@epistarter1136 2 жыл бұрын

Nickc likes to use stick jump for his IDJs too

@orez_ssb 2 жыл бұрын

i have tap jump on so what i do is tap up and X/Y at the same time to get an idj easily

@innocentshine2778 2 жыл бұрын

I think characters that use IDJ for combos may want a consistent frame perfect method, because otherwise it delays the aerial a bit which could make the combo not true? Great advice for Seph (I didn't even know he could autocancel his uair like that) or if you just want to catch an higher up opponent quicker though.

@jmash3243 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re in lag from another move, like a throw or something, you can just mash jump and it’ll buffer frame perfect IDJ’s I think, so it’s more lenient during combos, it’s just doing raw IDJ’s that’s harder

@GING173 2 жыл бұрын

Sephiroth s in particular is almost better as the slightly delayed Idj so it perfectly matches the auto cancel window. Also so you can fast fall like he shows here. Some other ones are more frame perfect. I play Ike and up throw Idj upair only works at very tight windows if a character has a frame 2 airdodge/frame 1 option

@donovanmahan2901 2 жыл бұрын

i do a half circle over the upper face buttons, basically sliding over y, x, and a to do an IDJ aerial.

@bronywnm4742 2 жыл бұрын

Dude this huge. Thanks for sharing

@n00blord14 2 жыл бұрын

Tap jump makes it super easy, especially for Falcon.

@dougstatz1427 2 жыл бұрын

This is why Nairo is great

@yazerg2221 2 жыл бұрын

Nario, do you have a visual mod on your switch?

@6thsean12 2 жыл бұрын

more nairo advice lets gooo

@Tonjit41 2 жыл бұрын

I like my idjs to be frame perfect. Falcon's funkier combos need it. I press R (jump) and slide my finger from Y to A at the same time.

@pabloarambula4627 2 жыл бұрын

So you use 2 different jump bottons for an instant double jump? Is that better/easier than using one button?

@unison_moody 2 жыл бұрын

IDJCZ for Lucas needs to be frame perfect to combo

@Skelyos Жыл бұрын

ngl didn't even know this was a thing but glad I randomly clicked this expecting a meme

@citrusblast4372 2 жыл бұрын

The one thing im having trouble with is ledge trumping. He says to just go left right or right left but the character sticks to edge 😔

@supernova78_ 2 жыл бұрын

Step 1: hit x (or whatever jump button) Step 2: hit y immediately after Step 3: profit

@djstu10 2 жыл бұрын

problem is you have to release X before pressing Y so it's easier just to press X twice

@bidoofjesus1086 2 жыл бұрын

@@djstu10 problem is when you have a jank control setup, and you have z and b set as jump

@rxllyssb1263 2 жыл бұрын

What I do for me is (Y, Y+A) for a high jump one. A shorter one is (short jump Y, Y+A) but this one gotta be lil bit faster Edit: the Y+A means you gotta press both buttons at the same time

@GING173 2 жыл бұрын

Jump button go brr

@autonoma566 2 жыл бұрын

Meta knight need frame perfect idj to do resets on ps2 platforms off of a single jump 😔

@soulvynthis334 2 жыл бұрын

I have stick jump and bumper jump, I just press both. Easy peasy

@Re_Fr35h Жыл бұрын

All the sora mains...

@StrawHatPuffy 2 жыл бұрын

yoo the corpse party music!

@cade-o 2 жыл бұрын

bro just hit x twice

@jaygatsby3007 2 жыл бұрын

Im glad he's said something cuz nobody I've told how easy u can do have just ignore me

@disboundedx8038 2 жыл бұрын

I just use tap jump and x at the same time

@hxrmy 2 жыл бұрын

steve needs a perfect IDJ to do the up tilt block up tilt block up tilt up smash shenanigans

@tannerwixx Жыл бұрын

how is he autocancelling up air?

@PWRLIFTER22 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you bro! #bestseph 💯💯💯

@badmana5768 2 жыл бұрын

How do you “get the auto cancel” what’s canceling the landing lag

@quarium5681 2 жыл бұрын

Auto cancels are a frame window at the start and end of aerials that let you cancel the landing lag if you time it right, different moves have different auto cancel windows, what Nairo is doing is falling at a specific time towards the end that the animation isnt done but you land without lag, that's it. If you want an easy one to try, try canceling the start of Ness or Diddy Kong Dair by fastfalling during the startup, that's an auto cancel window.

@badmana5768 2 жыл бұрын

@@quarium5681 ah I gotcha thanks!

@FerousFolly 2 жыл бұрын

if you have trigger jump on a pro controller you should be pressing jump with your middle finger (it's better for your hand) and if you do that you can kind of slip the finger off the bottom edge of the trigger and immediately press it again with your index finger. this might not be for everybody but it's by far the easiest method I've worked out as it's a single motion with two fingers of the same hand and you don't have to train yourself to have the right timing between multiple inputs, just the right speed for a single input

@anbusnipe197 2 жыл бұрын

I do a lot of idj with falcon going into it before hand because of the buffer system makes the timing less strict to get the double jump off fast enough so basically pressing it sooner than you think you can chances are it’s still going to come out as an idj because of ultimates buffer system doing it while another move is ending gives you more time to press it again this might help somebody it helped me

@tobynnaylor5061 2 жыл бұрын

Your comment was so hard to read without punctuation.

@futurfry 2 жыл бұрын

Punctuate. Please.

@anbusnipe197 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know this was an essay and no

@itsaname7448 2 жыл бұрын

Kazuya has that 7 frame jumpsquat, so timing a idj is super easy

@danielgz8497 2 жыл бұрын

What aerial is he using to cancel at 1:45?

@marklabs4612 2 жыл бұрын

I need to know this too. So after Nairo full hops and fast falls, what is he auto-cancelling with?

@danielgz8497 2 жыл бұрын

@@marklabs4612 I watched in 0.25 speed and there is no back air right at landing. I think he just jumps at the exact time he lands.

@marklabs4612 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielgz8497 got it, so press jump twice quickly, up air, fast fall, then press jump as soon as you hit the ground?

@danielgz8497 2 жыл бұрын

@@marklabs4612 yeah, but only fast fall when you done 2 full jumps and then up air. If you do instant doble jump and then fast fall idk if you can still land with another jump before lag landing happens. Maybe with the wing is possible.

@eanderson9599 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe I can’t just set 2 buttons to jump and press them right after each other. my peanut brain can’t handle the double press

@danielsmith5032 2 жыл бұрын

But you can

@nocturn333 2 жыл бұрын

you might end up getting short hops if you dont time it right though.

@Reconqu1sta2 2 жыл бұрын

You can trust me you just gotta get used to it

@Joey-om5xm 2 жыл бұрын

You can, the trick is to let go of the first button before pressing the other one. Otherwise you'll get a short hop

@theslizzlemeister5862 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why idj is so hard for people; I’ve been doing it since before it was even “discovered”. I guess most people don’t use stick jump, huh…

@hi-mx8xk 2 жыл бұрын

Its because stick jump is god awful for a lot of characters. It is way easier to misinput moves with stick jump on. Most if not all top players turn off stick jump.

@theslizzlemeister5862 2 жыл бұрын

@@hi-mx8xk for me, using the stick and then immediately using x or y is easiest for idj. I’ve never understood why stick jump is bad though; the only downside I have is that it’s harder to up-b without using a double jump but that doesn’t come up very often.

@Ridlay_ 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@novelgiani 2 жыл бұрын

I still have problems instant rar'ing, which I need for Wolf's fair > bair at mid percents lol

@meepster12345 2 жыл бұрын

It's just a training mode practice kinda thing. Just keep at it and if your playing online use the time in-between matches to practice too. Just like try doing short hops and turning around every hop