Given his tools and the location of research by the state.. An egotistical genius.. and Creator of Priscilla, Lordran's weapon of mass destruction. This is Seath's story.. Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/user?u=3372968 May grace guide us all.. ✨ Hawkshaw

I never actively noticed the detail in the intro, that the scale of the ancient dragon in Seath's hand crumbles into sand. That adds some creepiness to the beautiful sand in Ash Lake.

I always assumed that Seath was crushing the scale in the opening scene like an assert of dominance onto his fallen brothers, now I finally understand that he was screaming of deception when he realised the precious scales he wanted so desperately were crumbling in his hands. Thanks dude!!!

Everybody talks about the lore, but I just like Seath because “dragon mad scientist ” is a character archetype that goes harder than diamonds.

Now I am become Seathe, the scaleless

Seath: Guys I'm worried I might die one day without scales. Other Dragons: Wait... you might what?

I just realised something. Seath cannot be older than fire like the Everlasting Dragons; to have an albino dragon, a crippled and mortal dragon, would require disparity. Depending on the time lag between the advent of disparity and the war against the dragons, Seath might actually be very young for a dragon.

Ah man can't wait to learn how Seath did nothing wrong and that not only were his actions justified but they lead to a better world.

So in a way, Aldia succeeded (sort of) where Seath failed, creating an ancient dragon that whilst technically an imposter, might very well have served his research purposes

Its a golden age of knowledge and lore. Praise the lore.

id honestly love to see a primordial serpent video in the future, such integral characters who we know so little about

I wonder if Seath was ever a professor at the Vinheim Dragon School. I'd like to imagine a giant dragon teaching sorcery XD

Who was more cruel to humans - Seath or the Gods? Let us know what you think!

Did dude just change the thumbnail just to catch the Oppenheimer train?

The Golems being there to guard / watch dragon-like creatures because he wants to become like his old brethren makes so much sense!

I just like how basically Seath was just a bullied dragon nerd. Pale, frail, outcast and studious.

That's insane! I also came to the conclusion that Priscilla is the Daughter of Seath in that way, that he accidentaly modified a pregnant woman instead of a virgin maiden. However, I believe the 'other' father of Priscilla to be Havel the Rock directly. In just the same way it's brought up here, the archbishop of law and caste had an affair with a - presumed - maiden. That maiden got abducted and somehow modified by Seath. I believe, that Seath knew or guessed from the very beginning of his experiments with human women that a pregnant women could lead to complications and therefore requested maidens from the getgo. Noone could have foreseen, that one presumed maiden actually had an affair and was pregnant, right? Therefore I believe Priscilla to be the Daughter of Havel, that Maiden and Seath. It would explain that deep-seated hatred of Havel for all things sorcery and Seath a smudge better that just him killing his lover - which also is a pretty good reason to hate someone in the first place ofc. I don't really know what evidence brought you to conclude the birth of Priscilla and the abduction of Havels lover to be seperate events - but I guess I also don't have that much clear evidence for my idea either... except a nice little parabola with Berserk which just rhymes so well to me that I chose to accept this as the more elegant and simpler story: In Berserk there is also a Child with three Parents, just like Priscilla. It's the child Guts and Kjaskar made, which was somehow aborted and livingly modified by Femto-Griffiths Demon-Seed. This happened willingly by Femto-Griffith, instead of presumably unknowingly by Seath, but the parallels just ring something for me. And I stumbled over quite a lot lore references pairing exactly these characters - Guts and Havel, Seath and Griffith... perhaps Myazaki chose to take that connection and this Hommage to Berserk just a little bit further? Anyway, the abduction, perhaps rape of his loved one plus the corruption and ousting of his to-be-daughter would be enough to drive an archbishop of law and caste to a rebellion against the very gods, the stashing of occult weapons in hidden places of Anor Londo and mobilising an army of magic-resistantly armored knights against the very gods he once prayed for. It's even enough to turn him against an old friend - or be locked away by him through betrayal, for his own good, of course. Anway, felt like sharing this. I love your work. It's the most compelling and interesting insights we get in the lore of these wonderful games, I think. And it's so delishious food to fuel the little story ideas and theories of so many others by their own - it's awesome in any meaning of this word. Praise the Lore

What happened in the Duke's Archives stay in the Duke's Archives.

“The child who grows up without the love of the village, will burn it down to feel it’s warmth”

I'm surprised there is no mention here about how Seath also abducted Manus's lover. I really expected to see the connection between Seath and the fall of Oolacile.

Absolutely bends my brain when you mentioned the Ash Lake ancient dragon as possibly being the firekeeper for its bonfire. It's like Seath's not only trying to make stone dragons, but create a being that can survive an age of Dark, Light, or whatever comes... Fantastic lore series.

For some reason, I've only just realized how utterly futile Seath quest for immortality was, and in the same way the quest of the god to make the age of fire eternal a fool errand, with the crystal itself being a hint so obvious we only sought to interpret it metaphorically as part of some greater scheme rather than literally, as in, the literal crystal can be interpreted as a metaphor for how dragons came to be, if we look into how crystalline structures like quartz come to be in real life. They grow over time due to favorable conditions, albeit extremely slowly, its a natural process like any others, they never were ''eternal'' in the way that they cannot die, but more than they're part of the natural processes of the world that can become manifest. Seath could never have gotten the immortality he sought, and became mad when he realized it was impossible, the same way that holding the crystal and all its qualities simply does not make its a part of your self, a part of your soul. That last line just gave me an epiphany about the nature of his crystalline beings and experiments... He tried to literally fuse lord/flame soul to the soul of the crystal, but when that failed horribly in the form of Priscilla (not that she is a living failure, as she breathe and is healthy as far as we can see, but more than she wasn't the expected outcome, rather than an eternally living crystalline soul whose inner flame grew ever more, she was a creature of want, whose soul could sap the ones of others with a single glance, leaving nothing after, not even ashes. He wanted an exponential and he got pure vacuum instead. ), he started to test on humans and their dark souls, perhaps hoping our dark souls could provide us something he lacked as to find a solution to his dilemma. I suspect those experiments never gave him closure, seeing how things went afterward. He wanted to hold in his bosom the inherent eternal growth of crystals, so he could grow his own scales, yet in the end all he had was a feeble phylactery, a pale, artificial, rushed simulacrum of the real thing, a frail eggshell which crumbling end truly exemplify how mad Seath endeavor had become, a god reduced to a glass house he can never leave, for fear that his so cherished ''immortality'' be lost to anything from a falling rock to a hefty gust of wind.

I assume Seath made the Moonlight Butterfly to show how refined his taste in mecha anime is.

I wonder if Seath would’ve become fully crystallized given enough time, and maybe then he would’ve become truly immortal without the need of the Crystal

Love that you played Yarghul’s theme when you started talking about a surrogate. Well done.

I summoned to help with this fight literal hundreds of times, for his fight back in the PS3 days. I had my lvl 140 dragon slayer build with the dragon slayer spear +5 and the great sunlight spear. I memorized every step and map detail in the invisible crystal caverns down to his boss fight. In the ps4 times it was different but still there. The number of sunlight medals I have on ps3 and ps4 is unbelievable.

There is never enough Hawkshaw. Every time a video comes out I have to watch the back log after.

The way you Describe how Seath plans to bring back the dragons reminds me of how scientists in our universe think we could theoretically bring back dinosaurs by messing with the genetics of birds. I also like that you are able to explain his motives for his actions while not sugarcoating the fact that his actions were cruel and insane. Seath was a monster, but he was a monster born of circumstance and bad luck. Very good video here pal, one of your better ones.

I like the part where Seath said,'Let's get scaleless', then kidnapped a bunch of maidens and stuck octopi on their heads

It seems that even though Seath had sight problems, he was able to visualise a future for his world, and make it reality.

So glad you’ve been back lately old friend. Looking forward to hearing all your discoveries and analysis once more! PS the fact that Seath is very likely NOT insane makes his actions even more reprehensible imo, although the fact that his mission allows him to retain some sort of sanity in the entropy filled Lordran is still rather impressive. He seems to be the last major force left at least ‘mostly intact’ (for lack of a better term) in the world, aside from perhaps Gwyndolin. He proves to be much more hardy than many of his brethren after all, ironically BECAUSE of his mortality or more precisely his **obsession with** his mortality makes him functionally immortal. Such a dichotomous character, the many contradictions make Seath incredibly intriguing. He arguably is more successful in reinventing the flame than the Witch is.

The ancient dragon is sitting ON the nest. She’s not young. Not newly created. She’s the lone, hidden survivor of her kind, leading her hidden covenant. This is why Seath is still trying, not some unsupported claim that he succeeded in making one, hid it, then kept trying to make one as if he hadn’t

Seath is literally Death the Destroyer of Worlds

think christopher nolan will ever make a movie about seath?

Seathenheimer, pioneer of crystal magic.

Wonder if Crows and Dragons are directly related. After all, scales and feathers both evolved at around the same time and featherless reptiles IRL have a hormone that suppresses feather growth during development.

I like to believe that the everlasting dragon in Ash Lake simply survived the culling of the Ancient Dragons and hatched long after their passing in a forgotten place far beneath the surface of the known world- a secret even Seath cannot know. Proof of the resilience of life despite the best efforts of its enemies. A miracle of a species reemerging from the brink of extinction to carry on a legacy older than time itself.

What about Gwyndolin and Seath? Im pretty convinced that Seath experimented with his mother while he was in the womb too. Maybe Gwyndolin and Priscilla share the same mother as they r both 'gods' Further explaining the emotional attachment of Gwyndolin and Yorshka in DS3, he looked after her as a brother.

‘Seeth, perhaps the most important character in Dark Souls’. Yep I’d say so. The Age of Fire wouldn’t have happened without Seeth’s help. Seeth’s lore is incredible and all he ever wanted was to be equal like his brethren.

I cannot wait to see what you've uncovered this time. Really makes the Elden ring wait so much easier, thank you for the lovely surprises.

Really looking forward to what you've dug up this time.

hmmm i believe Seath's betrayal was far worse... the dragons had immortality through scales and invulnerability through the primordial crystal, as seen in Seath's fight. He is immune to harm until the crystal is destroyed. He betrayed his brethren, fulfilling part of his agenda and gaining immunity to violence by stealing the primordial crystal, leaving the ancient dragons vulnerable to attack. Scaleless, he is still tied to time as he is yet not immortal. Through Gwyn's support as gratitude in his help in the war against the dragon he thought to gain the resources to continue his study of the dragons scales. The crystal outbreak and magic are results of Seath's experiments with the primordial crystal. I do agree that he was desperately trying to find dragons to study their scales more closely as the remains of the war were unusable by now. The gaping dragon didn't wield any results, but he had discovered a way to contact another time, as the entrance into the past is directly tied to his archives and the crystal golems he controls... What if the rift for the dlc wasn't intended for the chosen undead to face the abyss, but for Seath to find and study or maybe even use the last recorded ancient dragon that was slain. By the time the chosen undead ravages Lordran, moes through his channelers and destroys his objects of study, he is left to micromanage his his latest work and is ultimately left offguard when the undead arrives at his doorstep, defying his traps, guards and even guaranteed lethal attacks, proving impossible to stop. Ironically his study only accomplished to send the chosen undead back in time to kill the dragon he was so keen on studying.

This title aged well

The Duke’s Archives is my favorite area post Annor Londo

I'm always impressed by the level of detail, love and dedication with every video of yours. It is truly magnificent to watching everything else, from other videos, coming together now. Good job Hawkshaw!!

Most of the things that comes out of this man’s mouth are pure poetry

I love dark souls lore, just so many interactions that you’d never think about until you read item descriptions

I haven't seen anybody connect that maiden set and White Seance Ring to Havel. That's so sad and adds so much to Havel's story with Seath. Brilliant discovery to share!

This was a very insightful and eye-opening video, as usual. I had never really thought about Seath as being a helpful and widely respected scientist dragon for a time, but it all makes a lot of sense now.

In dark souls 2 his soul is in the spider and he uses the mining town to dig up the dragons corpse so he can move into it. Which is why you have to collect the soul which is next to the corpse instead of just obtaining it after defeating the boss like the others

After all this years see a new lore pieces is amazing, astonishing work! Thank you

The immortal dragon being a baby firekeeper is an idea I want to believe.

I’m so glad you’ve been back, I watched part of this during the premiere but was late, just finished it today at work. Amazing man. I hope you have more. I’ve been holding off on the Elden ring since I’m going 110% blind in it.

Food for thought: Seath was probably the first of the Dragonkind to have to worry about death and with no belief systems in place he would have had no one to turn to. And on top of that while he was born without immortality he is one of the last two dragons to die.

I can’t wait to hear this guy unpack Elden Ring’s lore. Hacksaw is right up there with Vaati in my book.

So glad y’all are back at the DS lore again. I’ve rewatched the old ones so many times that it’s refreshing to get a new dose

I instantly recognized that Rome total war soundtrack in the beginning, good taste.

Impressive as always. You don't have a ton of videos on your channel, but the few ones you can make are gold! Keep up the good work.

the nostalgia i get from this game is amazing

I absolutely love that you use the music from Shadow of the Colossus in the beginning of the video. Good on ya!

This channel always has such great insights to a game that's around a decade old!! It's so entertaining to hear a fresh perspective. I hope you keep making this content Hawkshaw! Love it

This was an amazing lore video into Seath.

So glad I rediscovered this channel

This was very interesting to listen to! Good work. Hearing about what the players have to say about lore is probably my favorite thing in Dark Souls.

The biggest shock of the vid was that Havel only had one Maiden head over heels for him

Dark Souls lore has become an integral part of my life.

I don’t think I have seen this mentioned before but I personally believe at least some of the inspiration for Seath the Scaless comes from a Russian/slavic?(not really sure) mythical character named Koschei the Deathless. He was a wizard who abducted the princess from some kingdom, and he could not be killed without destroying an object which contained his soul( i think its a babushka doll but again im not sure). Again, to my knowledge this has not been discussed by any of the main lore channels. With that being said it might just be incorrect, but i persnally believe the name(koschei the DEATHLESS/seath the SCALELESS) and the fact that they were both invincible until an external artefact is destroyed are both a little too specific to be nothing. I hope you read this as I think you could probably do the most with this info.

2:11 the fact that you are using fear ost from berserk 1997 while talking about seath's own fear is simply amazing

Insanely good video!! Great telling of this story so well rounded out! keep up the great work.

Great video man, good to see it improve compared to the last one Whether it's because this topic just had more content to cover, or you actually listened to feedback, or maybe I simply understand your intentions better now, I do not know, but I feel the videos really get better with every new release I understand now that this is not *that* kind of video, but still, it would be good to see item descriptions of things you are talking about, just like you do with dialogues already

Where in the world did you get the idea that Havel was in love with one of the maidens Seath kidnapped? And that the white seance ring originally belonged to Havel the rock? Normally I dig your stuff, even if I don't buy it. Your recent Lautrec video was amazing. But this Seath video feels like fan fiction.

2022 and suddenly ds lore videos start popping up that perfectly explain everything as if you guys have been doing a doctorate on the topic for 10 years. Someone give these guys a diploma.

Just recently found this channel, just wanted to say that this video alone made me subscribe right away after I regained my awareness after the ending. 🐉🤘 That had me really immersed, thank you!

Amazing work, as always. How much of this is interpretation of stuff and how much is filling the holes? In any way, very interesting, very well done and your voice is a pleasure to listen to.

*"Everything is great. We got no time, no sun, no death. It is amazing."* (amazing) *"We got this crystal shit that even makes us DOUBLE IMMORTAL."* (Don't even. Need it.)

One of my most favorites characters in the whole series! Thank you!

I think Seath is controlling Ranni as his "fool's idol" We were all fooled by the ever guiding moonlight...

That Shadow of the Colossus intro song was perfectly placed, then you hit us with the Hollow Knight one. You voicing lore over video game OST's is a pleasure on the ears.

Ah the crossbreed experiments.

This video was awesome. Thank you so much for posting it.

I really love that you've came back. I missed your content.

Great video, Seath is the one part of the game I found most confusing all along. It’s rare that FS and Miyazaki make such an unsubtle and direct homage to King’s Field. While the series is full of little nods to the rpg series of old, Seath stands as the biggest and most blatant reference in the series. As a God and creator of the world of kings field, I expected you to at least mention it. If you do research in Japanese, I’m surprised if you don’t also play kings field, and study the lore surrounding Seath there as well.

Amazing presentation. Was not expecting that final line.

dang ive finsihed ds1 like 3 times and this is the first time i finally get what seeth is all about in a whole sense. Dang good work.

There are 2 ways to be immortal.1 to avoid death, 2 is by spreading you genes. Seath try both methods. That's why he kidnapped women using his crystal golem and thrusting his crystalhalberd to these women and even to godess (gwyns wife) We see his children from pris, yorshka (yorshka is probably just an old pris who got out of the painting), and gwyndolin. Yes gwyndolin is seath's son. That's why he's pale, has an affinity to the moon, has snakes leg, and has the same song as moonlight butterfly (seath's creation). And gwyndolin probably blind as well This is why gwyndolin said yorshka (whom he gave her name) that they are brother and sister.

Is it possible that the pregnant woman seath abducted that gave birth to Priscilla was actually the woman that Havel loved? We find havel's ring on her body. A ring that helps you to carry more weight. Perhaps he gave it to her in order to help her carry the weight of their unborn child? Maybe this could explain why we find her dead in a cell. Seath furious with the abomination that was born torturing the women and allowing her to die. Idk just a thought I had while rewatching this lolol

That white maiden and havel link i had either forgotten or never knew, thank for that, super cool info.

Amazing work as always, love your vids

I was under the impression that Seath originally had legs, and he lost them as part of his insane experimenting to attain immortality. I think you see him with hind legs in the intro or something.

Very good. I only have 1 question. Do we know for sure that the Primordial Crystal was born in the First Flame? I've done a lot of reading into it and I've never come across that info. What's the source for this proposition?

I really hope you do videos like this for all the Souls game, especially DS2. Subbed

I am loving these new videos! Keep 'em coming!

I rarely comment on KZfaq, but Hawkshaw is worthy. The digging and investigating work done is incredible. So glad we’re getting new content again.

Automatic watch! Incredible that a decade later, there's still more secrets and lore to uncover. Kudos to those willing to seek it out!

Been watching you for a while man, love the content truly feels like you're own interpretation. Not just taken from wikipedia

Couldn't help but notice that the music at the start is the Flaming Tree theme from the second Arabian chapter in Silkroad which was never even officially released beyond private servers. Now that is a very niche arrangement to find.

His insanely cool backstory is exactly the reason why he's the main badguy in my dark souls D&D campaign. Thank you mister Hawkshaw for these awesome insights!

cant wait

Great lore breakdown, great footage. Good job!

Yoooooo….. this is wicked cool… I never heard of most of this, and yet the theories on seath’s creation of dragons make so much sense.