Wait till u see Ep 4

@@jojosparkels6962I was going to say the same thing

It gets really bad in episode 4 in episode 2 he was toned down 10 fold

Yeah, let's just say he was on demon timing

Sounds like Stan and Homelander

I don’t get it

Sorry?

​@@alexbennet4195 Its a joke on people who are born British

Yeah aren't british people just the amish of europe?

can confirm, my accent is shit

i didnt really notice it much, what i noticed most was that he seemed to constantly flip between being sickly sweet and violently angry

You have a point there, I didn't think that it might even hit a little too close to home for the dudes out there to feel comforable with the character. 😄 I absolutely loved Alex Brightman's Adam. I only recognized his voice when he sang, his speaking voice sounded so unfamiliar! And I say it right now: Adam gives off huge Trump-vibes in regards to his ego (and his self-delusion).

@@DrDeadsy42 That was Alex?! Oh heck, you're right! I hope we get to see Adam again, and see some of the nuance he does when voicing Fizzarolli. :O

yeah like i don’t think that adam was a “rewrite of chaz” simply because i actually liked his character and i hated chaz. i think adam swearing is supposed to be seen as ironic as he’s from heaven yet he talks like he’s from hell. it also symbolizes that heaven isn’t what it seems and that it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. adams an egotistical prick because he was the “first man” which explains why he behaves this way. he is also in charge of the extermination and since he’s in hell so often, i feel like he sees it as having free will to behave how he’d like. i can’t wait to see him later in the show and i hope he gets another song because i really like “hell is forever”

I mean, I generally don't like the overuse of curse words that Viv uses, but at the same time it seems to me that she's one of those people who kind of just never grew out of the '90s-00s goth punk phase, and that was a common thing for that crowd so I take it in stride. (I know because I was one of them myself when I was younger).

​@@Snow-Willowthat somehow sums Vivziepop in a nutshell 😆 but you know I do sometimes miss that 1990s 2000s style of humor.

Maybe it is justnme but i didn't notice as much curse words compared to helluva boss.

@@itsblitz4437 I do too somewhat. Mostly what I miss is how people actually could take a joke back then without crying and getting all offended. I look back at me in that stage of my life and cringe so hard now, but I do miss that part of those decades.

@@kingkingo1841 I think it's gonna depend on the episode. Like Adam's one scene had more cursing than an entire episode of a lot of Helluva Boss.

Yeah for most of the voices I think it's just a matter of getting used to it because we've known these characters for so long without hearing their voices we've set up our own expectations.

Ikr she feels so pompous and full of herself and it's perfect

i just dont get why lilli cooper went british with her voice tho. shes an american actress🤷🏼‍♀️i still like her voice dont get me wrong but its an interesting choice.

@@mikedebakker5820I 100% agree with this. I am a casual watcher of Vivzie’s work and I barely knew much abt Velvette or Vox prior to the show apart from their designs so I never held an expectation for them. Thus, I didn’t get whiplash hearing Velvette have a British accent and the whole accent thing with Valentino seems to be intentional so I don’t mind it either. It’s almost like he’s trying to put on this act for people to get what he wants which is where he has the accent while his true nature is a piece of shit, I think it’s cool conveying that through his voice since tone of voice does play a big role in how people perceive each other. Overall, as a casual fan, I quite like the voice cast personally!

​@@koldkutgirl because her being british was in Vivs pitch book. Velvet was described as "a business woman with a British accent. Confident, authoritative, and playful. Black woman; youthful age. In her early to mid 30s"

I heard she's going to get more villainous, so maybe she'll take over as exterminator leader and dethrone Adam. If that does happen I hope they don't make Adam seem sympathetic, but they probably will

@@aaunyea4799 I can definitely see her becoming more villainous. Because she’s an exorcist who’s sole purpose is to kill sinners, the Hazbin Hotel would potentially prove to be a danger to her job.

To be honest as I don't know much about the surrounding lore i was just thinking that it's a misunderstanding and he is more like the rep for the people in hell, but idk

Well I think god prolly does most of the work. I thought it was Adam led the extermination.

I got the impression that he's not the leader of all of the angels, just the legion that routinely goes to hell for the exterminations. I could be wrong, I don't follow the Twitter lore very closely, just going based off of the show that's the impression I got.

all i keep thinking about is that zavla got his ghost crushed and was cursed to hell for all the war crimes we commited against the fallen

@@bigbean69699I just keep thinking about the Arbiter if he died during Halo 2

hard to go wrong with Keith David, he kills every role

Spawns va…say less

The latest episode convinced me Kieth is perfect for this role

Oh my gosh the brutality and character development that takes place in episode 4 was so good. So far of all the ones released it's definitely ranking up there in one of my favorites. I didn't like the song Poison at first either, but seeing it in context of the show made me like it a lot more. The animation that accompanies it improved it so much.

Honestly, Husks and Angels song “Loser, Baby” was amazing. Favourite song from the series thus far

Husk is growing on me but the wild change from the original threw me off (possibly because I really latched to the original voice). Personally not really a fan of Angel’s VA but in all honesty I’m just glad the show exists. Bits and pieces here irk me and threw me off I’d say it’s below what I expected but still decent. Definitely improved with 3 and 4. I’m hooked with Vestial, Husk and Carmilla. Especially the overlords. Loved Respectless.

SAME OMG I LOVE HUSK AND ANGELS DYNAMIC they better end up together istg

@@k1llyrs3lfX3 They're gonna.

Yeah lmao. Like do you think there are no British bratty influencers??😂

⁠@@gwenchapman5068 honestly I think he genuinely forgot the term “valley girl” which sounds bratty influencer-y to me

Probably. I had no expectations so I didn’t think much of Velvette’s voice. I have to watch more of her to form an opinion.

I really like her voice. I think the bratty, valley girl influencer whatever kind of voice is overused and an easy default voice for characters like her.

BRITISH 😱😱😭😭😭

Charlie is too self insecure yet to use her powers or at least her princess status to influence others. Episode four says it all. But her main power - yep - it's her freaking kind heart so I would like her to be redeemed herself actually. She's really too good for hell. I think everybody knows it)❤

Oh and yeah I forgot one more thing. Lucifer and Adam can't reunite. Because this show isn't biblically accurate. Lucifer hated ppl. He was jealous. So he started an uprising against God asking others to join him. And so he was kicked out of heaven by Angel's army guided by Michael and it's said that when the end of the world will happen Michael will kill Lucifer and the funniest thing is that Lucifer and Michael are both well aware that this is an unavoidable future cause their fates were written by God. Lucifer in reality was a piece of sht. This is just a cartoon)

I'm definitely excited to see what other powers Charlie has, and to see how powerful she is.

@@moonshelter3448 I wanna see her getting pushed further and further and potentially kicking the asses of others after they hurt her friends or something. Cause she’s clearly keeping her more demonic side under lock and key

Thank you! You took the words right out of my mouth. Hopefully at least Sera will be more nuanced.

I hope it’s just an act he put in front of Charlie. We see at the end of episode 1 where he is a lot more serious and strategic. I don’t mind the swear and given he is the first man I could see him being egotistical. But I hope it’s not overdone and make heaven bad just because. But tackle moral issues like redemption/change, what is good and evil, etc.

@@Salza02 It's possible that it could've been an act, but I wouldn't count on it. Of course Adam is gonna be cocky and egotistical, but that can be expressed without excessive swearing. And I'm also hoping that Heaven won't be bad just because they're the opposite of Hell, if that makes sense? I want them to show that just like how not everyone in Hell is the same, not everyone in Heaven is the same either. I want to see the 'bad' people in Heaven be not explicitly bad, but more along the lines of being judgy and pious, with a holier-than-thou attitude, since that would honestly be more accurate, if being raised Christian is anything to go by. But we still have 4 more episodes to potentially show that, so there's hope.

@@Salza02 it's very likely an Act because of end of the episode. For an egotistical and very stupid show he puts on, he isn't impulsive with Lute who is so calm and collective is far more impulsive and emotion driven than him. It also makes sense the guy probably doesn't know the politics of hell very well and likely assumes Charlie you know Lucifer's daughter and the Princess of hell has some political pull and could create a defense or start a second rebellion against heaven. I could be wrong on this but how he acted in front of Charlie isn't the same when he acted without her in the room.

@@Salza02it’s definitely an act. He did most of the stuff during the meeting just to waste time so he doesn’t have to hear Charlie’s idea.

I think Adam is an example of self-righteous people in power who deem themselves literally holier-than-though whilst in reality being worse than those they look down at.

​@@DrDeadsy42 Exactly, well said

@@DrDeadsy42 So in general, radical Christians.

Right, I was surprised when he said that. Why shouldn't she be British? It's Hell, where every "sinner" on Earth goes. It actually makes less sense that everyone in the show speaks English at all.

@@Laura-iu8spI guess all British people go to heaven or they have no soul?

Yeah, that's how I feel about people criticizing if Vivzie got her characters "right" when she damn well knows her characters better than we do.

I also got the vibe that they all think of themselves as "the leader" which will be fun to see more interactions between them

I like the "hidden threat" concept - you don't know much about a character but get easter eggs as to their true motives and power throughout the series. I get where a lot of fans are coming from with the Valentino criticism - older fans were familiar with Paranoid DJ's voice which is more raspy, suave and intimidating and lends itself well to his character and lore as someone who could both captivate and dominate you. However the voice and performance we got in the episode was not that at all - it didn't give a vibe of someone that you needed to be careful of OR really would be drawn to. That might change in later episodes as his character is developed, but it was a bit of a letdown. I wanted to be afraid of Valentino, instead I was wondering how he managed to be an overlord at all.

i think maybe husk's huskier voice just felt more right than mr president- i mean husk's current smoother voice. That's just a theory. a film theory.

That's exactly the point. Keith's voice is very iconic and recognizable that anyone who isn't invested in the character will hear Keith and not Husk. Mick Lauer was the original voice actor, and I find his voice a better fit for the character. It may be a stetotypical gruff voice, but it's unique. Keith does a good job, but it's not the voice I prefer.

100% Agree! I’m a pretty chill person in terms of getting emotional towards fictional media but let me tell you my mouth was agape watching him beat up Angel. Episode 4 is by far my favorite so far for how well they characterized everyone!

Their relationship is not complex; Valentino is the abuser, Angel is the survivor. Stop romanticizing abuse, it’s disgusting.

@@karinaasvolinsque5239 Yeah thats not what I was on about. In the Poison song, we see that Val and Angel have, in the past, had sex consensually. Which a lot of abusive relationships start off as, consent first, then revoke it later. Maybe don't be such a dick with your assumptions that I'm romanticising it, instead when I'm admiring that the show allows it to have layers. If Val had always been abusive, Angel never would've stuck around. That's how real abusive relationships sink their claws in. They act nice first, then the violence comes later.

I can't help but compare how they handle this abusive relation vs how they handle the fizarolli-mammon stuff in HB. Both are very clear abusive examples of employers, but I think they handle it better in HH, mainly because of two things: First is that they make totally serious this situation, and second is that, unlike Fizz, Angel didn't get inmeditaly out in the episode we are presented the problem, so it acknowledges that healing and getting out of abusive relationships is a hard and long journey, which makes feel more believable

@@arturouribebertolotti1169 Well when both are made by the same person, comparison is pretty much warranted. And both do stem from the inherent power dynamic of a boss and their employee. Just Fizz and Mamms isn't sexual which I'm thankful for, Fizz already went through enough. But I do enjoy also that Angel isn't "free" yet too. I've seen endless comments of people critiquing Angel for "getting in the situation" in the first place. Just the endless victim blaming and dehumanizing is depressing and horrible. So far in my opinion both represent different yet similar abusive relationships very well. However the same could be said for Blitz and Moxxie but they're main characters so somehow Blitz beating Moxxie is for laughs and calling him fat is funny while Mamm doing the same is wrong. I feel like in HB the distinction between villain and good guy isn't clear at all.

Yeah, it's not as profain as people were hyping it up to be. LS Mark has said that there was profanity ans sex words for the sake of it. There are moments, but not a lot to say it's vulgar for the sake of it.

perhaps profanity has little affect on where you end up?

I agree entirely. Vox gets poked fun at for "almost losing" but he also seems a lot more panicky for someone who actually won. i suspect something interesting happened that was mayhaps sneaky or caught alastor off guard and vox basically did lose, but got his ass saved somehow by sheer luck or some cunning little ploy. I really hope we get to see more of their history and more interactions like that as the season continues :D

I thought the same

On multiple rewatches I would chuckle at his jokes but that probably because my sense of humour is very childish

Same xD

same. I have a similar taste in comedy, and a bunch of scenes with adam made me laugh. I'm with you

Yea same, I just found it odd since hes the leader of the angels but acts like most of the characters in hell from what we’ve seen so far

all 4 episodes are alredy out on amazon

I feel like Sir pentious is either gonna be some sorta semi-sacrifice (meaning it would look like he’s gonna die due to him saving someone) or just a guy that would be the comedy boy

Frankly I agree with you. I love both of these and don't get the ratting on voices or writing

It’s so bizarre

To me he seems even younger like a collage frat boy

It came across to me more like the lead singer of a band who is only confident because he has groupies wanting to f*** him at every show and he made that his whole identity. I like the ego and the "poorly written confidence" actually. I'd like to see what happens when that confidence gets shaken or taken away, if there's an actual level of threat to the character as the first man and the leader of the exterminators.

I know right, first time I saw it it took me like a good 5 seconds to figure out that it wasn't Tom Trench speaking but Katie instead, that's how off it sounds, I love Brandon Rogers and all be he'd probably be the last person that I'd think of to cast as Katie Killjoy.

Which really does suck cuz everyone was hyping the idea of Brendon voicing Katie as Bryce which everyone me included thought woulda been a perfect fit. For some reason that I can’t put my finger on,…it doesn’t fit. It feels exactly like what you explained. for a sec when I heard Brendon’s voice I was wondering who was speaking even tho Katie was right in front of me. Idk if it’s just me being so used to the Katie from the pilot. I do feel like once everyone gets used to the idea that Brendon’s voicing them it’ll fit more ig. Either way I absolutely loved the episode definitely some issues with dialogue but every show has its small faults. I personally think the dialogue coulda been utilized more to say more. Sometimes I feel like they ramble too much for the sake of making things clear making it a little too repetitive or for a joke that doesn’t quite land. I was also wanting to see just more happen in terms of dialogue between the characters rather than just all jokes and small talk. Like with angel repeatedly just saying he’s a good porn star in 5 different ways. I was hoping he’d have more dimension in his dialogue. Then again it’s legit only the first eopisode so I’m definitely jumping the gun. I was looking for maybe Husk saying “can you cut it out with the horny shit”, angel in response then shrugs and basically leaves him alone for the rest of the episode which woulda been cute and funny and shows a little dimension to how these guys haven’t been living with each other forever so their dynamics keep changing. I just felt like all the dynamics were way too extreme all at once with the same emotions and tone throughout. Idkkk like moments when I was watching and they were talking I was thinking, they could’ve really been talking about something else here. Idkkk. But I genuinely do love it, it holds a special place in my heart and I love analyzing. So I analyze the good and the bad of any shoe I’m a fan of. Like emotions that I genuinely liked outa the characters were when Charlie came back upset and was cheered up by the commercial cuz it’s a break from her extreme happy personality and angels annoyed face when he asks if Vaggie even knows what “fix in post” means. Idk if what I’m saying even makes any sense. I just feel like there could’ve been more in some places and less in others.

I Think They Should Have Kept Katie's VA From The Pilot.

@@jadee991 you make such good points I would love to talk to you more about the show I hope I don't come off as weird it's hard to find people who actually wanna have a good conversation about the show 😭😭

@@ziluz4914 nah nah your good not weird at all lol. I actually really appreciate you saying that especially since I felt like I was just full on rambling nonsense 😭. Thanks so much and I’d love to talk more. We can share instas if you want since I mainly use that. It’s hard to find fans of the show that genuinely love the show enough to criticize it and praise it at the same time. Lately it’s so black and white on twitter either your a psycho fan that doesn’t believe hazbin or helluva could do anything wrong or your such a hateful person that once you see one thing you dislike you go and harass anyone who defends the show. Why can’t we just chill and have fun discussing 😭🫶

Maybe they should have made Adam some type of entitled person who uses his title of being the first human on earth to get what he’s wants. They could give him high manipulation skills which makes Charlie think he’s a nice person, then Adam can use Charlie for the sake of it. I hated the way the portrayed Adam here. I would have been fine with him being a one time appearance but seeing how his character is so relevant it’s likely that we’ll see him more. I hope he gets more depth as a character instead a swearing bot.

@@Lunaileewe don’t know if that even the same Adam so who knows if that fits

@@Yami-mugoni613 although it would be cool if it were though.

I wouldn't call Paranoid DJ's voice for Val charming. Unsettling sure, but not charming

@@WaltDevil060 I kinda just meant charming as in he knows he’s able to wrap anyone around his finger (if that makes sense. Idk how to describe it 😅)

@CinfulArts Yeah, what you are describing is not charming. The words dominant or confident fit better, in my opinion

@@WaltDevil060 yeah that makes more sense

​@CinfulArts I'm sorry but I agree. I'm not really "attatched" to ParanoidDJ's version, but it does work better.

I agree 😭😭

It gets better in episode 4

If it was deep and flirty it would have kinda been a cliche tone to give him

I agree I thought they would give the spoiled childish behavior to velvet who is younger and is into social media 😂 . In my opinion I would've liked it if Valentino was able to manipulate angel into spying on alastor and Charlie setting up a great character arc instead of getting rid of that plotline in the same episode.

In episode 4 Valentino gets his chance to shine. Not going to spoil but he is actually a decent threat to angel, my theory is that Val is just more relaxed around Vox and Velvette. Whereas he is aggressive and manipulative with Angel

⁠​⁠@@osky529I wouldn’t have enjoyed Velvet if she was like that. Just feels like “young people and frequently go on social media are childish”

@@Salza02 they threw in the whole fashion thing too even doe her outfit is one of the worst and most childish fits and it would go perfectly with her did you not see her freaking out every little thing and calling vox to handle Valentino like a child would

@Quitz_MC Just saw it. It more than made up for his lackluster debut

Keith Davis is perfect and probably the best voice of the entire cast. Could not have asked for better

I said the same thing they don't come off as girlfriends at all like my friend didn't even believe me when I told her they was a couple until I showed her the trailer when Charlie introduced vaggie to her dad as her gf & i didn't like katie voice either i love brandon roger he just doesn't fit the role in my opinion

Vaggie reminds me of a lady in waiting

Yeah, idk what went wrong with the cast list, but it's like every character lost their personality when the voices were changed.

I'm gonna be honest, that's how a lot of healthy couples are LIKE I'm lesbian myself and though it was good, showed a perfectly healthy couple

Maybe not what it wants to be, rather what it could’ve been.

Helluva boss didn't really have prep time to be fair they needed to get Episodes out to make money to fund both shows

​@@ma.2089 Or maybe it's just a youtube series for those who don't have any money to spend the series (like myself). Either way, I hope more episodes come in other platforms like KZfaq for Hazbin Hotel.

The pacing in Hazbin feels very in your face fast.

Same.

Val having two different accents is intentional though. His Spanish voice is his persona and his American voice is his actual voice

Same but I wish I could say the same to the people who complain about the plot

It's intentional. Val has two accents that persistent his persona (Spanish accent) and his actual self (normal American accent)

I thought Vel was gonna be like Harley Quinn too

Though, I do agree about Adam.

as a bean myself i can turn it off and on and i dont even know spanish that well

I like it personally. Honestly with how much the culture mixes in hell it doesn’t shock me that his accent probably changed over time there