kinda but they look nice

I think they would match perfectly if the NPCU was shorter in height

Glad you enjoyed!

@@spottingbythebay Where’s The Siemens Venture Cab Car?

@@spottingbythebay I Wonder If The Siemens Venture Cars Would Be Painted In the Paint Scheme Like The Siemens Charger SC44

Lol, come one, dude! I understand that you foamers like anything that is old, but the F40 is butt fugly. It's a brick with windows.

I hate them

Amfleet cars are ugly, glad to see the Venture coaches. I mean rolling stock that is 40+ years old is simply unacceptable. They're more obssessed with the locomotives than passenger comfort.

@@jtkm wrong! Anything that’s modern is ugly on trains like these! They need a retro style charm, which makes it feel more luxurious. Besides they need to care more about comfort if they want to have any chance of winning against airlines

@@jtkm Amfleet cars aren’t my favorite either, but at least they were built by Budd

@@amtrak_121 Hey man, I still enjoy my vintage rolling stock. Amtrak destroyed all the progress the private companies made. Don't get me wrong, I love them Budd and Pullman cars built for streamliners like the Super Chief, El Capitan, Broadway Limited, Congressional, East Coast Champion. That was in the day when companies had to compete because one person many choices. Amtrak is a state owned monolpoly, like they gave a damn, you've gotta operate like a business if you want people to ride the train. One train a day frequencies plus old worn out rolling stock just doesn't make the cut. But I agree with the retro charm, we need the good old streamliners back, I would so anything to ride on the Broadway Limited or Super Chief.

Not Rotem. Nippon Sharyo.

It wasn't Rotem. They have exited the North American Railcar business with the MBTA & SEPTA orders completed.

No, these Venture cars are ONLY specifically for use on the San Joaquin, as the name suggests on the top middle of the cars. The bilevel cars are not going anywhere

I think the Ventures are only going to the San Joquins for now. But the CC and the Surfliner will get the San Joaquin's newer bilevels. But eventually they might upgrade all the California state routes to them.

Thank you!!😍😁

@@spottingbythebay I am have lnstaram

Dominic Tauane gave ya a follow buddy🤟

Did you have the Comet Cars or the Superliners? I ask because yes the Comet cars are "old" but they were rebuilt several years ago at a cost of $2 million apiece. We've needed new equipment for a long time, that's for sure. I love the look of the Venture cars.

@@jreichel1 they were superliners.

@@alexpelsor6841 I sure wish we could get new Superliners.

@@jreichel1 Amtrak isn't sure what it will order for LD fleet but if its Bi levels the state may join them, or the state may order its own new design bi levels

Last date we had was the first sets in Service around January of 2023. with 5 or 6 in service by the end of 2023

Captain Jeau The scoop is a mod (modification) mainly for the California cars specifically on chargers for Amtrak Cal. Once they’re gone it’s an easy removal. Regarding the paint that’s a good question, the scheme on the chargers now are for the CC, so once CC gets their venture cars it should match but now with the SJ cars I’m not sure. All I know is that CC and SJ use a variety of different engines to operate so it’ll be a little while for everything to match. If you look up on google, search up Amtrak Capitol Corridor new train cars, you can see the concept/proposed on images and there are a few articles on it.

@@spottingbythebay Oh sheesh! I thought California is too broke to afford two different schemes

@@Jeragon186 Where did you get the idea that California was broke?

Thatguyontheinternet Aren’t we always broke?

@@spottingbythebay The California Cars will be staying for the Capitol Corridor. Some, if not all California Surfliners will leave for the Surfline.

It already does. It has looked ancient for over a decade. It's just that we didn't have too many modern trains to compare them to.

@@TohaBgood2 alright

That makes sense considering that they are actually train cars designed by a European company. They are not imported, but they are practically the same design used for cars in Europe.

@@robk7266 I agree there based off the Railjet coches, they are almost identical.

Rob K they shouldn’t be that way! They need to look more like American cars! This is not Europe and they shouldn’t try to make it like that

@@amtrak_121 why? You do realize that European trains are better in every way, right?

Rob K no I don’t! The reason American passenger trains aren’t so popular anymore is because nobody cared about keeping the speed and reliability. But I’m sure that looks are important to! These cars are too modern and violate everything about American rail heritage

@Chris Hoffman-Echandy wow, pretty interesting...and also dangerous.

Too expensive to move them. Plain and simple.

There are lots of tracks like this in America

Because it’s super-cool that way.

@@mplsmike4023 it’s super primitive

I’m not sure but they always do that for some reason, from the California Cars to the PHIs

@@spottingbythebay Oh! I never knew that! Must be some new SOP?

@@Jeragon186 its so its brighter, apparently many drivers can't see the marker lights

@@GamingRailfanner That makes sense too

Yes, this is temporary till the California cars retire

@octa 5501 No, the Siemens Ventures are all going to the San Joaquins. The San Joquins will retire all of its Horizon cars and their Bilevel California cars will go to the Capitol Corridor and the Surfliner. Some bilevels might stay on the San Joaquins but it will eventually be a Railjet-like intercity service with all Siemens rolling stock.

Yes

Don't believe anything WTDX 1402 puts up.

No, they just haven't built any Venture Cab Cars yet. 7 will be coming.

As I've heard the Venture Cab car units are basically SC-44s in the form of a Cabcar I think it's quite unique, and really cool!

@@AVeryRandomPerson are those 7 all for Caltran? I know they are getting them when this ventures replace the Amfleet Is

@@MrWill1985 Amfleet I operated the NEC, and they’re also going to be replaced along with the Metroliner Cab Cars. The Siemens Venture rail cars with the cab car (ALC-42 Styled Cab)

Thank you! And the chargers are in the Capitol Corridor livery while the new cars are in the San Joaquins livery, meaning they’re both different. The Capitol Corridor cars will match the current Charger livery but it’s unknown how the SJ will match with the engines.

@@spottingbythebay I see, thx

Interesting how the foamers always find something to hate about the Venture cars. It's almost like you are all biased against any new rail equipment you see. Interesting...

Yeah