Dismisses warmer color anyways because it doesn’t feel true to what my eyes see in nature.

As a designer I always found the default settings to be too cool. Sadly, I’ve met too many designers who don’t get this concept

What I like doing is watching a little bit at settings a slightly more exaggerated than the recommended . Ex: After about 5 mins of watching TV at WARM 3, i would switch to warm 2/1 and all the accuracy becomes completely satisfactory !

Nope. On my previous Samsung TV I had it on warm for 2 years and then I visited my neighbout and saw his beautiful NORMAL color temperature and instantly had to revert this option. I NEVER could get used to the piss filter. Also why are you all always comparing warm to cold and saying cold looks too blueish? Why not compare to normal temperature setting. I don't like either cold nor warm, normal is always the best and most realistic looking.

True, cant stand either the blue or yellow tint in the before and after. White should be white If you take a picture of something, the TV and the thing should look the same

Lol legend

You mean like, my "HDMI 2.1 port is ready for your high bandwidth cable, master... Oh yes, I'm fully certified with ALL specifications... Plug it in!"?

Oh no...

LMFAO

Lol

Thanks

I don’t have filmmaker mode on my Samsung. There’s dynamic, standard, natural, and movie.

@@WalterMelons i don't know what modell and year your tv is from but have you ever updated the tv's software?

@@thedutchfisherman7078 I intentionally have not ever connected it to the internet. Maybe that’s why lol.

thanks G

What's more sad is the number of people who want it on when I show them the difference.

Same thing with interpolation. Still there, for whatever reason.

so should i leave fit to screen on “on” or “off”

@@adriantrinidad1296 Yes

@@adriantrinidad1296 "On" if you have a Samsung. Just whatever setting that makes the picture look smaller, because that means your TV is not zooming in and killing the borders.

I turned off sharpness and now everything looks disgusting Thanks alot asian police man

@@arkham_miami I personally don't put the sharpness all the way down, I put it on 10/100, sometimes a little bit of sharpening helps crisp up the image a little.

Well, it would be except that he is objectively wrong on a couple of counts. Motion smoothing can do nasty things with certain shots, but it's better than the "purist" view of watching what feels like stop motion. Similarly, film grain isn't "artistic", it's still just unnecessary noise. In some of these cases, he's not busting myths, he's spreading them.

@@bevanfindlay 24fps doesn't feel like stop motion. It's been filmed at that rate for years and the only reason why you feel its unbearable is because you think "more is better". Film grain may not be to your artistic tastes (and thats fine), but though it is 'noisier', the image is actually clearer because denoising generally makes an image less detailed.

@@normietwiceremoved No, that frame rate was chosen as being the bare minimum that usually looks passable for most scenes. Try playing a first person game at 24 frames and at 60 and tell me which you prefer and if you can tell the difference (spoiler: we can; vision alone can pick up changes to around 90 Hz under many circumstances, higher in certain unusual ones). Pro gamers can perform differently at as much as 200 fps, though some of that has to do with more than just vision (input lag etc). Noise is the same - even a basic denoise algorithm isn't going to affect detail much, and film grain is still just garbage optical noise - it's the "purists" who are ignoring visual science. It's people saying they prefer something broken over something better. The Hobbit movies were the first time I didn't feel like a movie was horrible and jittery (pity that they made some other mistakes that some blame on the frame rate when they're unrelated).

That’s not true. Most RAW files are under sharpened.

Sharpened images always look better, have more accurate lighting, better contrast and 10x more detail. I think 88% of the population are just visually impaired without even knowing it.

​@@joshuakyle9494Agreed. I'm looking at snow far whiter than what this video claims is possible to even see and I live in a dirty city.

​@@godzilla2k26I live in a clean city. And the snow doesn't look bluish like the cold and standard temperature on the Television. Same with clouds. The sunlight have a natural yellow tint

@@sonyx4500 Sunlight is natural white light. This is why people need to get out of the cities sometimes.

here i was thinking it was just Blu-ray remastering messing with LOTR when the newer tv's were also to blame.

You are a LOOSER. What are you doing here in the Philippines? Whats wrong with Allan and Steve? Why are they stealing our packages? Are those people fake?

By the way, BLUE doesnt live in the Philippines anymore! Those who remains here are loosers stealing packages!!!

@@theswampus670 I hate that so many people have ended up making that mistake. I remember back when Blu-Ray and HDTVs were first becoming a big thing, and motion smoothing was coming out around the same time. I saw a lot of people saying things like "HD/Blu-Ray makes it look too real, like I'm watching behind the scenes footage or something." I remember I saw a comment once where someone said, "I saw them playing the new Die Hard movie on Blu-ray in the store, and it looked like I was watching Bruce Willis film the movie, instead of watching the movie. I prefer DVD, where it looks like a movie." I had to tell him that he was probably watching a tv with motion smoothing turned on, and that Blu-ray actually looks more filmic with the right settings. It is very frustrating that so many people don't notice it, or if they do, don't know it can be turned off. I'd say about half of my friends and family, when I go over to their house, I ask if we can turn the motion smoothing off, and they're like "What's that? I don't know how." and then I turn it off and they're like, "Oh wow, you got rid of the soap opera effect!"

Haha yeah thank God, I thought I was the only one who noticed this

Thankyou 👍

color space Auto (if u not calibrate)

You'd be surprised how many people prefer motion smoothness. I for one prefer it.

Fuck warm. Neutral only(maybe slightly warm with manual calibration, if the TV's "neutral" is too cool) Not yellow not blue. Just right.

It pissed me off beyond comprehension that HD tvs come with that setting on. If I go to a friend's house and they have that on, I will always insist on changing it. I don't get out anyone is able to watch shit with that awful awful f@cking setting on.

I liked it because it made things look kind of 3D to me. I think the first time I saw it was when I was watching a demo for one of the Transformers movies. Hyper-realism does have its place with some content. But the "some" is the key word here. If I was watching 12 Angry Men with motion smoothing on it would just be annoying as shit.

I’ve never had a motion smoothing tv until I bought a Samsung on Black Friday. When I watched my first movie I was like, something feels really off. So I sat through the movie then immediately messed with the settings to see if I could fix it. Sure enough I could and I turned it off. If I was watching KZfaq then maybe it would be good, but it’s a hard no when it comes to using it

I’m guessing you mean motion smoothing? Motion blur is what filming at 24 fps naturally produces (the so called “cinematic” feel) Personally, I hate artificial motion smoothing, but if it’s content natively intended to be high framerate, I prefer that

Fuck motion blur. It makes me sick and is the first thing I always disable. My gf thought I was crazy until I showed her why

Always felt like there was a yellow smear. It’s hard for my eyes to accept something like clouds or snow with a tinge of yellow. But this would explain why skin tones can sometimes go very pink or magenta. I will readjust my settings and try it out for a while like you recommended.

@@bigmoviefreak skin is pretty pink in reality. Shifting in some green and amber into the white balance makes white people look more pleasingly beige, but everyone else looks more green.

I did the same on my phone. Whenever I look at someone else's phone, I always forget how blue the white is.

Im still like you and prefer medium one day I'll have to try warm 2

Human eye whitebalances automaticly. Ambient light usually 3200k (yellow) and background of your screen can shift your perception of colors. For this reason I would recommend watching movies in dark room.

Thats True. I was try 3 Times and now i cant look blue anymore xD i must my Phone change settings to warm xd

Yes this can go for any setting... 'once you adjust' it looks fine. If I believe the 'experts' I need to put my LG tv on max warmth, but it screws up the picture, it's yellow and way to green. Warm 30 or somewhere is where it makes much more sense to me. In the end, it's your own preference, sure you want it as close as filmmakers intended, but I doubt it's warm 50 on LG OLED tv's, because white isn't white at all. Nope, you surely don't want it all cold and blue neither. The truth is something in the middle. If I follow all the so called expert suggestions I'm left with a pretty dull picture. Maybe they've been watching on there own perfect settings for so long anything else seems off to them. But that's the same for someone that's used to a very cold setting. By all means, play with the settings and don't just do what people tell you to do. By the way, this is coming from someone that has his phone on warm eye care 24/7 and uses yellow anti blue light glasses all day. But I can still tell the difference between yellow/green and white 😉

I did the opposite lol finally got use to blue and I like it a lot more. It’s more vivid and I’m not a fan of the muted yellow look. Even in this video the yellow setting makes everyone’s skin tone looks like they have a fake tan instead of looking white lol Made everything look like it was shot in a desert or post apocalyptic not to mention the warm 2 setting looks bad on games imo

I can't watch warm. No way

@@Logical Just because you set it to Warm doesn't mean it's correct already. The greyscale out of the box is never perfect and visibly affects white the most ... Dull picture just needs to up the Brightness/backlight, not changing the colour temperature or other colour/contrast settings ... Check out some older reviews on HDTV Polska and see the difference between out of the box Warm and a calibrated picture on the Warm setting

Also a Canadian and I also was like “uuhh what this guy talking about, the one on the left looks much better to me”

Yes they also made it warmer on film but your right but also him in away but truth it the way it's film yah I hate way directors tweak colors like that there no point.. but also Linus tech tips said don't trust the filmmaker mode because it's up user because some tv may differ only way is if you cal it through expert via pc but still... If you think you can I look up I think spider x data color and use calman it really fix the tv yah it made it warm but I push it back my lg was set to warm 1 but I push it to medium...

A filmmaker dude made the Hateful Eight look warm and it looks like crap too.

I'm not even Canadian. I grew up in Ohio U.S. and the snow definitely strikes me as being white. Ffs what happened to the phrase "don't eat the yellow snow"?

@@josiahferrell5022 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! The fucking movies are COLOR GRADED!!!! If you want to see the fucking snow in it's natural color look out the fucking window. The movies are color graded to the desire of the director and colorist. WTF?!!

Agreed I prefer Warm1 on my LG OLED as well.

Thanks I'm about to purchase a C1 I'll keep this in mind.

I prefer cool

@@Csal92 Warm1 user as well. It's the best way to go.

@@majorastorm Cool is to blue-ish for my taste

that's exactly.. neither cold nor warm. Totally neutral!

Exactly the same for me

I agree

I agree.

💯 watched a video where some guy said to set my brightness at 8...the picture looked like it was night time the entire movie and I couldn't see stuff that was going on if the films setting was night on top of that

@@rickycardenas5154 Set for color accuracy and then just go through a few scenes and adjust the brightness until you're happy with it. I find the star wars prequels to be very dark in dolby vision mode but when I tested a dark scene while paused turning up the brightness didn't reveal any more details just raised the shadow from black to grey.

some t.v have additional camera sensor that cancel the ambient lighting by readjusting the color temp.

I own a lesser-known brand of TV that has a faux filmmaker mode. At first I thought it was because it wasn’t true filmmaker mode that’s why it was too dark, but your comments here now confirms that it is the same for legit filmmaker mode too.

easily the best AV guy imo. Him and CNET are all i look for to reviews.

Watching this cold vs warm i swear that on my screen the cold displays snow as white and the warm displayed snow with slight pee in it?

This is where people get hung up. You can have a set calibrated to D65 and still have it appear "cooler" if that's what the director intends.

@@lemsdk17 LOL nice 1

@@lemsdk17 This is the problem I have with warmer temperatures. Cold always makes whites look WHITE, whereas warm, makes whites look slightly yellow.

This is a lie that the TV manufactures have to keep going because of all the horrible things they started doing since the dawn of HDTVs. Flat panels were crap and expensive back then so they had to cheat to make them seem decent. Everything was way too cool to make them seem brighter and they turned up the contrast and saturation to make it pop. Unfortunately they conditioned the public into believing that this is what looks good

Exactly, this is super eye-opening.

Ya my tv settings were total crap and I never knew it lol. My eyes feel so much better now.

@Swami What is ‘proper’ calibration? Proper calibration is what is most appealing for the viewer … regardless what anybody else says. Smoothing on looks much better to me when watching UHD than turning it off, same with a good level of sharpness. Got mine professionally calibrated from one of our leading companies … looked absolutely shit. Same with those best settings. Locally they even stopped doing calibration services as the viewer’s individual taste usually massively conflicted with best calibrations. Best is what the viewer enjoys most.

@@GanymedeXD smoothing on feels like fast forward to me. Like you said, every individual has their taste. If you see RTINGS, they have pre-calibration settings review and post calibration settings review points.

I’m the opposite lol I love when they are high frames. Makes it feel so much more real same with games

@@swami5073feels the same to me just more real

Yeah, this. On the cx and c9 LGs too. Probably all LG OLEDs.

@@MILADINY0 it's the same with game optimazer mode. It's great as long as the game is 60fps but there are no motion settings in this mode so as soon as you playba 30fps game it's hard to even Look at it

@@oddcabbage yep, good point. Unplayable - and the issue with switching to another mode in gaming is the input latency.

@@MILADINY0 they should have some motion settings available in game mode. My Samsung Q80 has it so it's not hard to implement

@@oddcabbage That’s why we need to get rid of 30fps games. It will always look and feel like dogshit.

I was spoilt. When digital first arrived it was for sources, not displays. My Panasonic PL12 CRT showed smooth motion from both DVD and digital satellite. And its by my memory of that by which I judge things. Even when I had a Panasonic Plasma.

Natural skintones ! It's a joke ! So you think a pinkish skintone is natural at sunlight (5500 K) where it's obvious that the skin will be beige or brown with this color temperature.

you pose a valid point. personally i find it difficult to watch 24fps content on a monitor (projection in cinema is fine) so I use SVP on my pc to play everything back at 60/72fps with frame interpolation. i definitely notice the artifacts, but to me they are the lesser evil to the headache inducing stutter that is inherent to such a low frame rate of 24, especially in panning scenes. the ideal scenario is films like the hobbit or gemini man that are actually filmed at higher frame rate, so the benefits are there without the artifacting. one would assume it is possible to film at say 48fps and then playback at 24 for those that prefer it, though i have no idea as to the extra cost this would add to production. all the other settings mentioned in this video i agree with though. i prefer to keep the image as close to original as possible. the noise reduction one is a massive pet peeve of mine as it gives this dream like ghosting quality.

I agree but 24p looks awful to me. I still have to find one person IRL that doesn't like smoothing.

I can totally agree that artificial smoothing creates problems. However, I hate that cinema is still 24fps. In fast fighting scenes, it's impossible to actually see the choreography (it's just blurred limbs) and when I see a stuttery or blurry camera pan, I often get slightly dizzy. I think people only view smooth framerates as "cheap" because they're so used to only cheaper TV productions using them. Doubling or quadrupling the framerate would be a much more meaningful improvement to image quality (and require less resources) than bumping up the resolution from 4k to 8k, imo. It just doesn't make any sense to me that a smoother framerate would make a camerafilmed movie look less realistic/immersive. We don't see the real world in just 24fps either! I understand that for animated movies, the timing of the animations are more important than the framerate and that higher framerate might make poor animations look less realistic (though I don't know of any PC game that has this problem, so...), but with camerafilmed movies, the only small problems I could see with having higher framerate are that they don't mask bad fighting choreographies and that CGI is gonna be a bit more difficult to make look realistic, because more frames need to be rendered for it. But both of those are probably we should expect the movie industry to be able to easily overcome.

@@LRM12o8 The best solution that is well known and successfully used in the animation industry for many decades (and recently famously in the Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse) is hybrid framerates. For live action we would need to have camera motion at 48 FPS or more (for prefect panning without judder) and leave most of other things at 24 FPS (but not necessarily everything) to keep the dreamy look that allows the brain to fill in the gaps in a pleasing way. However this is technically non-trivial to achieve with live action and requires costly post processing work. I think Cameron even talked about this concept years ago when discussing Avatar 2.

@@JavierYunes Found one here. Motion smoothing is of the devil. I surreptitiously turn it off on extended family's tvs. No one has noticed.

Same, I usually set it to 1 or 2 on my Sony. Can't stand judder.

Usually default is about 20

Can anyone confirm if TCL's neutral is a 50 (like Sony) or a 0 on its Android TVs?

@@PotentChr0nic I have my sharpness on 20 on my TCL Roku tvs. I have the temperature setting on warm which I just recently changed from normal. Warm 50 must be a default setting. Adjust it to suit your taste that's all I can think of.

Why for the love of God would you think setting everything to maximum would the the best option? What was the logic behind it?! Depressing really...

You are like going all in or all out

Seriously, thank you! I feel seen! Like the idea that warm is “natural” like no somethings wrong with your eyes dude, go to a doctor. Snow even here in the middle of US, is white as white can be… Some of these settings are just too extra, and gross elitism.

I use black frame insertion on my C1 as well. I'm dialing the djutter and the motion smoothing seperately or use a preset. I use 8 and 8 on each out of 10. Definite sweet spot for my eyes. To get some hands on time with a newer Sony to compare.

Smooth 2 is in fact already Motion Interpolation 😏

Smooth 2 already adds a little bit of soap opera effect, I prefer Smooth 1

@@anguineus_vir unfortunately, you can't use BFI with HDR because of the brightness reduction it causes.

I personally prefer smoother videos/movies, it is definitely a contentious topic. The newer movies are shot on digital cameras anyways, so the genuine film argument falls flat. (Maybe for some old classics you should disable it, but for me 60 fps is way to go) Why would a 60fps camera look cheaper when compared to 24fps one?

Cretin.

Cool color is worse for the eyes in low light, because blue light doesn't trigger the pupillary reflex and can result in overly opened pupils harming the retina.

Correct color temperature is not about personal preferences. Its about "how its meant do be".

@@SaltCollecta No need for that

@@FFXIV_Story_Videos_Deutsch If the very vague "how it's meant to be" means "industry standard" then I agree with you. D65 is meant to provide consistency during the color correction process, not perfect realism. Not every movie uses D65, many use different whitepoints and D65 only represents the average daylight temperature at Noon. Further, most movies make use of color grading after the color correction process. The movie Twilight is far too blue to be realistic, but it was the director's signature color grading. Michael Bay similarly uses a strong color grading in the Transformers movies.

Same here. In fast pace scenes I also don't perceive the pictures as movement anymore, but as individual pictures, because they vary too much from one another in 24 fps.

It's not 'great advice'. The whole point of options/customisation is personal preference. If I want sharpening (essential for SD content), I'll sharpen. If I want smooth motion (which I do), then I'll not take advice from a 24fps diehard.

@@--legion I don't like 24fps, I much prefer smother motion even if it leaves visual artifacts, I didn't know where you got the "24fps diehard" from, even in my original message it says I get motion sick from it

@@KaelumKrispr I'm referring to the poster of this video and others like him. Those that refuse to accept 60fps is nearer human optics and therefore more natural, preferring instead to cling to the stuttering unnaturalness of 24fps. This 'advice' is defective.

​@@--legionstill only one point ( that is his personal preference that he says is controversial ) in a fine video

Smoothness is a joke not a must. It's the opposite if you turn in on everything turns into cheap amateurish piece of shit. No, thanks.

Same here 😀

I just adjust my friends' and family's TV sets without asking when they don't notice. Nobody has complained yet.

Just turn the colour to 0 and have a nice Black and White colour

The one that gets me is the "dynamic contrast". We were watching Daredevil on Netflix and couldn't see a thing so often we just criticised the maker. Finally I went into my TV settings, and stumbled across DC - suddenly we could see everything. I ended up turning most things off because I realise they were just artificially trying to tidy stuff up. Meanwhile one set of my parents are watching TV with blue skinned people, and the other is watching videos were white has a pink tint and I can't fix them without them complaining. Drives me insane.

i agree

Snowmobile enough back country and I have only seen yellow snow when I pee

How? It makes snow blue, you know snow isn't blue.

@@postboy2242 Snow actually does have a slightly blue hue, especially when you see light streaming through it from above. If you’ve ever build a snow cave on a sunny day, you’ll know that it’s certainly not clinically white.

Warmer settings are measurably more accurate.

Sony has a somewhat capable, specific, Digital Noise reduction feature. it looks for the cubic noise, not grain.

Yeah Netflix is especially bad for "visual snow" and you'd want some of those filters on when watching some streaming sites for certain.

@@90lancaster That's why I prefer physical media to get the best and highest picture quality but sometimes digital noise is apparent on some modern films which can look quite ugly because of the mosquito noisy picture it brings.

@@soylencer That's the thing you don't want to scrub any detail away of the image but want the mosquito digital noise removed not film grain.

@@BeginsWithTheEnd That's more to do with video compression, sharpening the picture won't bring out detail because the image is muddy looking to begin with by sharpening it you can't bring out more detail, resolution really gives you detail, which is why you don't sharpen on 1080p or 4K content on disc, streaming platforms compress their movies and shows even on the higher resolutions.

​@@Moody_Blues_ TLDR: "reasons" to by this years new model and scrap the one from last year aka marketing

It's because some idiots at the company who think slapping on unneeded filters is somehow better picture quality when they are actually hurting it. The average consumer is too dumb to realize.

The reason I've heard for most of these settings is because it enhances viewing live Sports. Which is what the majority of TV's are actually used for. Hence it being default.

@@cruxtymusic It absolutely does not enhance sports. It makes them worse, as it does with all content.

@@cruxtymusic The majority of TVs are definitely not used for just sport

I'm wondering about the sharpness level as well.