How about these three words. "He Saves Us."

Why spend millions of dollars to do Pre-evangelism? If you’re gonna spend that much money, why not go straight to the point? We don’t need to sneak in anything. Preach it boldly and see the mighty work of God. ”So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.“ ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55‬:‭11

I agree with the critiques coming from people like: Natasha Crain, Melissa Dougherty., Allie Beth Stuckey, Matt Walsh, Robert Gagnon, Nate Fischer, Samuel Sey, etc. Your guest said something like you can't get the Christian message of creation, fall, redemption in a 30 sec. ad. What? He said that in less than 3 seconds. I"m sure those who are creative could do that Christiian message an ad. Regarding pre-evangelism, do you pre-evagelism with false (or potentially) information? Let me answer that, "no!"

Guys, I am looking at the website now (I don't watch the Superbowl); let's be honest, you guys are all supposed to be theologians here. Is there anything in the "HeGetUs" campaign that is anything more than the old "social gospel." Jesus was a nice guy, he loved people, he did good things, he wants you to be a good person. Is that what Talbot is teaching now?

About a yr ago, I did some pretty deep research on the "He Gets Us" campaign. I went to their website and read and printed off all of their articles. I was not and am not at all impressed with their campaign. Where is the call to repent of sin and turn to Christ? That Jesus is God the Son and He died on the cross for our sins? All I see is Jesus being portrayed as a social justice warrior who hung out with the outcast. Yes, there is truth in that but they leave the most important part of the gospel out! We are sinners who need to turn from our sins and make Jesus the Lord of our lives! Satan is fine with the social justice warrior Jesus who doesn't call for repentance and humility towards God and IMO, that is exactly the Jesus that the "He Gets Us" campaign is promoting. I will be watching the Super Bowl tomorrow night (GO CHIEFS!) and will be looking for these "he gets us" commercials and hope they do a much better job of portraying Jesus as God the Savior and Lord instead of just a good man who did good deeds that we should emulate. Not holding my breath...

I have mixed feelings about this campaign. The website seems to misrepresent the character of Christ with progressive ideology. I'm not sure that's the best way to initiate a conversation. However, I also know that God can use anything for His purposes.

Just finished Melissa Dohertys commentary on this campaign. If you listen to it, Sean....can you give your thoughts? It was very powerful.

“How do you address Jesus’ divinity in a 30 sec. ad?” In stead of “He gets us” how about “He is God”

Calling Jesus a refugee seemed targeted about the border crisis and conservatives' stance on the restriction of immigration.

I have to admit, I figured those ads were Mormon. They are just so truth light with quite a bit of artistic license on how Christ would be counter culture. It also rings a bit "social justice." Those involved in social justice will likely see it as an affirmation that they are trekking with God. I do hope God uses it, but fear that too many have a false sense of security from a watered down gospel message. They got their golden ticket to Heaven by saying a prayer but were never taught to "examine themselves to see if they truly be in the faith. I hope I am way off base on this and this is an effective campaign.

I watched this podcast, and now that the commercials have aired I have a lot of questions. What is Sean’s take on this campaign now? To me, it gives no message of the need to repent and is not based on Scripture, but a twisting of Scripture. Very disappointing that Sean would put this up as something to support. I hope he comes out and clarifies his stance.

I thought the ads were evangelism from a watered-down, Progressive perspective. Knowing that they’re intended as “pre-evangelism” makes a big difference.

The commercial they aired during the Super Bowl last night definitely represented a leftist social justice Jesus and not the one of the Bible.

Natasha Crain recently did a very thoughtfully analysis of He Gets Us.

I think the danger, which I saw in this year's Super bowl ads, were an oversimplified portrayal of Jesus. Which I think can be misleading for someone who's a skeptic or new believer. I love the heart of the ad campaign, but I also think there's an important line that probably needs to be followed.

I see some people saying they get a “bad” or “uneasy” feeling when they see these ads and I honestly get that as well. However, I then see the conclusion from others that it’s because the ads “are bad” and that you or I “should feel that way” but I disagree. I want to conclude that but if I’m honest with myself I think I get that feeling because I’m being convicted by the Holy Spirit that I’m not doing the things that Jesus would be doing if he were here. Interacting with the least of these and instead I find myself frequently repelled by them for many reasons (smell, look, fear of judgment, etc.). Lord use this to move me and other Christians towards those that don’t look like me but need you the most! In Jesus mighty name! Amen!

One person plants the seed, one person waters, but God gives the increase.

So the ad was so quick, I didn't really get to digest it, also I'm already a Christian and didn't see myself as the target audience anyway. However, seeing Justin Giboney vs Samuel Sey (both black Christians) disagree on what the ad represented made we think more deeply. The feet washing was one directional. Jesus was criticized for sitting with “sinners”, but also said to love our enemies. The ad made it seem only one side had a pride pill to swallow (eg preppy girl washing the feet of the goth girl), but actually those who have been wronged/bullied/oppressed in the past may have the pill of unforgiveness and think it’s above them to do such a thing (like showing the goth girl doing the gesture towards the preppy girl). Your campaign ads show the “come as you are” brilliantly, but it doesn’t inform the audience that there is an expectation “not to stay as you are”.

Jesus would not have washed feet in front of an abortuary. Based on what He fid in Scripture, He would have rither loudly called for repentance or overturned the operating tables. God HATES sin and did not minimize it by 'being nice" to sinners, but calling them to repentance. Wr don't get to keep our sin (abortion, LGBTQ identities) and have Jesus, too.

No. I don't like it. And the partnerships they made are less than... discerning. I love how the Bible tells us not to put our trust in men. I am grateful for Sean McDowell's ministry and think he is an excellent teacher, but I just can't get on board with this campaign. I get an uneasy feeling about it.

I had a small role in the "I Found It" campaign in CA. Part of the campaign was working with local churches and volunteers would go door-to-door or call people up on the phone to talk to them cold-turkey.

I don’t like the words “ He gets Us” We need to to get HIM!

Now I know because I started from the beginning. Interesting. God can use this if we pray, so let's do that!

This interview was very helpful. I have been seeing these ads and have been concerned about where they’re going. The Superbowl ad was well done, but my mind went to the cost of the ad and was that the best use of resources in a broken world. This makes so much sense now and I feel good about getting behind them.

As Babylon Bee stated, "Satan: He Gets Us" - Satan wants us to keep sinning. How is this any different from the "He Gets Us" ad?

I think this is a wonderful use of Christian resources. Pre-evangelism makes perfect sense to me. The goal is to get people to read the Bible. That’s as good as it gets.

I get that "somethings wrong" feeling whenever the name of this group is spoken. I can't explain it.

“He gets us” does not present the Gospel. Plain and simple. If people see a sin friendly Jesus who is all kind and all love they miss the real Jesus. This is such a gross misrepresentation of Christ it is despicable.

If this gets people seeking the Jesus of scripture and only scripture. Not the Jesus of someone's mind, we all should be 100% for it.

I can see both sides . And I keep going back to Philippians 1:15-18 Where Paul explains how some preach the gospel with false motives and he could care less. Because Jesus is being talked about. If one of the most influential humans in the Bible said that, while imprisoned .. we can agree that God can do anything through any form of exposure to His Word. Paul said he rejoices because of this! So I will too 🙏🏼 God is big enough to convict, correct and rebuke ..

I invited my whole neighborhood and more people that don’t know Christ to watch the Super Bowl and they will leave with a track and an announcement that my church is being mentioned in the add since we teamed up with He Gets Us. It’s not about us it’s about Christ!

I was hoping that this conversation would help shed light on the Ads but I only have more questions. I think the ads are thought provoking just not in the ways that I think actually point to the truths of who Jesus actually is. Further, it’s not if he gets us, it’s if we get him.

I think the premise of the campaign is that Jesus “getting us” is a good thing. The problem is it’s not exclusively good. Because Gof is all holy and all knowing Jesus “getting us” means he gets how sinful we are. Some days I wish Jesus didn’t get me.

I get what he is saying about the pre-evangelism, but there is no call to repentance. Once you do get to that won’t it feel like a bait and switch or if you never do bring them around to repentance you’ve done nothing.

Ive heard it said that what we draw nonbelievers with, we draw them to. So if we are drawing them with a "nice", "innocuous" "tolerant" Jesus, will they ever honor Him as Lord? I think the reason Christians are so hated right now is not their hypocrisy it's that the culture can't stand any standard other than what is right in their own eyes. This ad further alienates the church from its Leader in the eyes of the world. That's not necessarily the best move right now. And as far as feet washing? In as far as it is a symbol for caring for the needs of others? The Christian church does more for others in the Name of Christ than any other entity on the planet. My daughter spent a year raising money so that she could move to an area that houses refugees and come alongside them in every way possible. She had spent months there previously being trained and is now a permanent "employee" living off the generosity of the church. She is one tiny example of all the beautiful ways the church brings the kingdom of God to earth.

I look forward to watching your sermon at Bayside Saturday night. Apologetics always excite me with regards to the Christian faith.

I noticed a lot of critics commenting here about this campaign. They seem to be mostly against spending so much money on it, or that it is misleading or misrepresenting Jesus, or not sharing the gospel. Those are all noteworthy concerns. But do they understand what pre-evangelism is about? Do you walk up to a total stranger who may not know anything about Jesus and start telling him about some guy dying to save him from his sins? Does it not make sense to start wherever a person is and go from there? I have a suspicion some of the critics never actually do any evangelism themselves, or they would recognize the most secular people are clueless about what you're talking about if you don't start where they are. Yes, people need to hear the whole gospel, but how effective can you compress that into 30 seconds? Seriously? There are literally millions today who have heard little or nothing about Jesus, he's not even on their radar in life. At least this group is trying to get those people to think about Jesus and hopefully raise some curiosity to learn more. Yes, the ads can be misused by various groups for their own agenda. Yes, the various cults will jump on the opportunity to lead people to their version of Jesus (e.g. Mormons, Jehovah’s witnesses, prosperity gospel, Progressive christians, etc.), and that will be true just by mentioning the word god or jesus without any context. Is this ad campaign imperfect? Sure. Will some misunderstand it? Of course. Might God use these opportunities to lead people to Christ? I believe quite possibly so. I remember as a teenager living in a secular home being influenced by a ‘Try God’ campaign in the 70s it pointed me during a very tumultuous time in my life to the Lord, though I later learned there were many, many critics of that campaign slogan. For me it was something God used in a critical time of my life to point me to the gospel. I was even moved hearing the words “Jesus loves me” in a secular country song before I was saved that strangely drew my attention back then to Christ. Looking back I can see several unrelated events like these let me straight to the gospel of Christ. I understand what they're trying to do with this ad campaign, I would prefer to see something more substantial, but I at least give them credit for trying something, rather than nothing (which I suspect some of the critics are themselves guilty of). Perhaps next year's campaign should say something like, ‘he gets us… but do you get him?’ if they want to provoke people to think more about what's behind the subject of Jesus? I know people who know all about Jesus and the gospel and they still don't “get it”. I’ve also come to recognize there is not a one-size-fits-all presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And wherever you start is not as important as where you end up. I'm not saying all criticism is wrong, and we can all learn from our critics, and perhaps this campaign will take to heart some of the constructive criticism and critiques that they have encountered. But let's at least not be so quick to throw each other to the Lions (sorry Super bowl fans, I wasn't referring to Detroit, maybe next year 😉).

My head hurts. This is so convoluted

My question is this add downplaying sin? I want to know what the intention of the add was. Do you feel their is need for repentance or does Jesus meet us on our terms?

Thank you for the video. Very helpful.

The idea that these commercials have to explain everything about "the Gospel" is like saying that a tract needs to explain everything on just the cover. Silly.

Putting a pebble or a grain of sand in the shoes of non believers. God will do the rest. This is an act of faith.

You should have waited until these most recent ads aired before having this conversation. They’re presenting a very different Christ than the true Christ found in scripture. They don’t vet any of the churches that they send people to once they sign up on the website. So many red flags with these people. Not at all surprised that Stetzer is on board…I’m a little surprised that Sean seems to be supportive.

I received my M.A. Theology from Talbot in 2021 and noticed the school (like seemingly everyone else) allowing culture to creep into the university. During 2020 and 2021 there were things like articles written in the Talbot magazine on Social Justice or the Division of Diversity and Inclusion being created within the university. I reserved comments but sadly believed where the school was heading. When Stetzer was chosen to be the Dean at Talbot, it affirmed my worries for such a good school. His culture bridging and CEO approach is a dangerously slippery slope, especially for a School of Theology. This is a battles between Christians while unbelievers are watching carefully so we must be mindful with how we react to these things. When "He Gets Us" started, it was pretty clear that the "bridge to culture" as Ed mentioned was important. The obvious clickbait tactics get Christians talking about the commercials and unbelievers chomping at the bit to see Christians unknowningly how to discuss the commericals. My worries, and like many (dare I so most) Christians, are to be hesistant in bridging to culture that is so perverse, hating of the Gospel, and so joyously anti-Christian. Rosaria Butterfield brilliantly talks about the Post-Obergefell culture that we live in currently. After the Supreme Court legalized gay mirage, the culture loudly proclaimed itself to not be neutral towards Christians and therefore Christians must not be neutral either. When we try to walk the thin line and bridge the gap with culture in ways like the He Gets Us campaign, we really are bending and even breaking to the culture. The Gospel is meant to confront sin (not through affirming it) and proclaiming a new life in Jesus (not one continuing in the sins). Christ dying for our sins is much more than a talking point for "pre-evangelism" like Stetzer says. The death and resurrection by our Savior should be revered to the point of tears that He would even dare wash our feet. The Creator of the universe certainly gets us, but do we as Christians really get what He has done for us?

Ed is the man! He was serving as a teaching pastor at CF Miami when u first discovered him. Amazing teacher!!!

As if you need one more comment, especially from a nobody like me with no theology background. First the positives: getting people into the Bible to discover Jesus. Grabbing their attention and sneaking past the "dragons/gatekeepers". Showing Jesus as someone they can relate to and who can relate to them. The grasp of the whole gospel message of creation, fall, redemption, restoration is solid in what was said in this interview although that does not come across in the ad. I volunteer with on online evangelism organization loosely associated with CRU at one time, so I have seen ads that do present the one minute version of the gospel and I know it can be done. Everything doesn't have to be a full gospel presentation. It can be a (Greg Koukl) "pebble in the shoe" to get people to think about a certain aspect. HOWEVER, this campaign could backfire as such people as Natasha Crane and Melissa Daugherty have stated. The negatives threaten to outdo the positives. The ads seem to portray a woke, culturally acceptable Jesus who endorses sin especially to those of us on the more historical Christian position who have had to deal with a different gospel (Alisa Childers) and a "Jesus in my image" ideology. My fear is people getting people to think that they are OK without turning away from doing life their way (I-dolatry), and to Jesus. It could mean people thinking that they have discovered the "real Jesus" from a wrong impression and use it to beat Bible believing Christians over the head for being too "narrow, judgemental, noninclusive, phobic...etc." (Been there far too often) Jesus met people where they were, but He never left them there. He said, "Follow Me."

”What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice. Yes, and I will rejoice,“ ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“If you disagree with the ad but have the conversation and share the Gospel then the creators would be profoundly happy.” That says it all to me.

There was an ad for Jesus during the Super Bowl, Halelujah!!!

Thanks Sean for doing this conversation. I've sat under Ed's teaching in a room with a bunch of other church planters so I trust his theology and his heart. If he reads these comments at all, I have a couple of suggestions that might help to bring together other Christian groups that saw these ads simply in line with current cultural values. What if you'd had a nicely dressed black pastor coming out of his church building and washing the feet of a white homeless vet? What if you had the Mexican abuela washing the feet of her unwed poor young white neighbor girl with her infant in her lap? There's a ton of people in my neighborhood, rural Midwest, who have left the church and who feel excluded not only from the church but from society as a whole. And that commercial would have been seen by them and they would have known they were also included in the He Gets Us.

EXCELLENT persepctive. much much appreciate you

I also disagree with the ad on multiple counts but thank you for the conversation. I would highly recommend Alisa Childers analysis on the recent “Unshaken Faith” podcast. It’s concise and gets to the heart of why this ad is so problematic, particularly the scene from the “Family Planning” clinic.

Hey, this is a question. How did someone create a better presentation of the Gospel that showed Jesus's love for us, than the feet washing ad? They put former [fill in the blank] sin and said Jesus doesn't just get us, he saves us. Transforms, heals, redeems and a couple more. The He Gets Us campaign, feels super squishy. Maybe it's because the creative team wants to bash conservative Christians so hard. But wow. I will not be taking the excuse of proto-evangelism anymore.

I believe the commercial gives ammunition to counter the gospel presentation at around 23:50: “receive Him? He receives ME.” Then we get back at the core of the issue: who are the sheep? Do they hear His voice? Has His Spirit quickened them to receive Christ as Lord? This commercial affirms the mainstream view on how Jesus “loves”. I pray that I see what I’m missing here.

Matt Walsh probably best sums up this ad: "the problem wt modern christianity is that it offers the invitation, but it forgets what the invitation is for"

Thank you for this conversation. Praying for all who were triggered by those ads, one way or another.

The Super Bowl ad was a disgrace.

I remember the “I found it” bumper stickers, still don’t know what it means, one misconception about Jesus in my opinion is that everything is ok with him no matter the lifestyle, when in actuality he is pretty strict, go and sin no more, they tend to forget or leave that part out, don’t have a tv but blessings for your campaign, thank you everyone

Great discussion thanks Sean and team!

This video makes me feel like even Sean was dooped by this campaign. He Saves Us, ,not he gets us. The Truth will set you free

Also, can we dispense with this notion that "no one in America knows who Jesus is," as if we are all living in North Korea or something. I really doubt that is the case. Minimally it is an exaggeration. We still have a whole heck of a lot of churches round these parts; even if attendance if dropping. I have this creeping suspicion that people know what, and who, they are rejecting.

He's making one big consequntialist argument: if it gets people talking about Jesus, it's good. That's a load of nonsense. Especially coming from a leader at a Christian university.

I’m surprised Sean and Scott are seemingly supportive of this campaign given the message many feel it portrays reflective in many of the comments here.

Talbot school is among the best reformed schools. DTS is also great. Biblical inerrancy is maintained, kept and applied. Pastor John

Some stuff I read on their website I think actually misrepresents who Jesus was/is. The idea that Jesus didn't feel welcomed by "religious" people or "church". Well, actually he was religious himself. He was called Rabbi. He was a Jew. He taught in synagogues. He taught his disciples. The word "religion" is bandied about as a rebuttal to the legalistic "fundamentalist" or something, but I think it's taken out of its first century context. Jesus ministered to people in need, people who reached out to him and recognised their need for God, for forgiveness, for healing, and so on. Zacchaeus made an effort to see Jesus by climbing a tree. The woman who anointed Jesus' feet with expensive perfume had experienced great forgiveness. But yes, there is the other side of it that people have a poor image of Jesus or a false image of Jesus, probably a politicised image of Jesus. I don't know about making Jesus into a modern day person that some might identify with though. It would seem more faithful to represent the Jesus of the gospels. I feel like in some ways the Jesus they are presenting is a half-baked Jesus, not the full Jesus of the gospels.

I would like to see what portion of people think Jesus is anti woman, and also what portion of people think Christians are anti woman. I honestly think most people have a very high moral view of Jesus. What they don’t have is a repentance based view of Jesus. I think their issue is with “religious people” or Christians who say repent and believe as Jesus Himself said.

No mixed emotions here ... This is the most dangerous thing going on in the world today.

greetings from the Netherlands😊

Where in Scripture is “pre-evangelism”?

Thanks for this interview Josh, it did help me understand the ad and it’s intent. Unfortunately, in many American churches, you never actually hear clear preaching of the gospel. It’s usually more therapeutic, moralistic preaching.

All praise be to God 🙌🙌🙌

Thank you for explaining , (without a de fensive posture ) the intent of the campaign. ... I have heard criticism about the wokeness of the content, but I get that, it is for a purpose. This is the *language of our culture. If it ignites an interest in Christ...and the bridge is crossed and on the other side of the bridge is the True Jesus and one comes to repentant faith in Him..... Awesome! I just compare it somewhat to a prolife billboard. It may say in 5 weeks you detect a heartbeat... Seed planted and maybe the one seeing it will be impacted.

So, I magine that there won't be a serious critique of the Super Bowl ad on this channel......

I get that you can't put the entire gospel story in a 30 second ad, but you certainly can put it on a website. The website articles and FAQs are extremely vague and do not share the hope of the gospel at all. The last thing Jesus told his disciples was "teach the nations to obey what I have commanded you". Your message seems to be that Jesus doesn't want everyone to obey Him but wants everyone to know that He loves them, which is true but I'm afraid it's misleading to many.

I’m sorry, but I strongly disagree with this conversation. I always appreciate you and the guests you have on, but I expect better from those who actually teach theology. “Jesus was a nice guy” is not The Gospel. The Lord can certainly use this for His good, but He can also use it for His glory if we all go punch someone as hard as possible and say, “Jesus loves you!” That doesn’t make it right, Biblically.

I have to admit that I never heard of the He Gets Us campaign until I saw this video.

Sean, Scott: please ask Talbot Dean Ed Stetzer about why he scrubbed his July 29, 2020 Christianity Today article "Pro All Life: Why I Protest and Encourage You To Do So Too" from the internet?

Without a call to repentance, the message of this "campaign" is watered down and has no power to truly save. It might make people feel good and accepted, but lacks a critical step in authentic salvation.

I do appreciate the Green family though. They've done some amazing work.

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make pre evangelistic commercials of me to get the conversation started. There’s no rush.”

"I have become all things to all people, so that by all means I might save some"

Never heard of those but it is an interesting idea.

Timely conversation. The foot washing advertisement has been on my mind all evening and morning. Very thought provoking.

Are you going to call them out, or will you simply ignore it?

Where’s the interview where a strong Christian actually pushes the issues with what they’re doing and how their website is not fundamentally/ biblically sound?

Why do they never show the need for repentance of sin? Jesus wasn’t just some hippie guy who “hung out with sinners.”

Melissa Dougherty YT does an amazing commentary on why the He gets us campaign is inadequate.

I understand by using this campaign that they want to lead people to Jesus and spread the gospel message. I completely get why they are doing this. However, I disagree though with how they are promoting it. These ads are promoting a false gospel and a false Christ by using a Left political agenda based off of false notions that don’t actually come from the Bible. I personally believe that If you want to lead people to Jesus, promote the truth of the gospel. That’s love the truth of who Jesus really is. I think there are other ways to promote these ads by speaking the truth. I will be praying for the folks who work for this organization to change their narrative to the truth. 🙏✝️❤

Wow, I have loved every Sean McDowell video I've seen until now. The HeGetsUs campaign is not an introduction to the Gospel as is said here. It teaches a false gospel altogether. I'm shocked at the promotion of this campaign on this channel.

I actually thought it was an LGBTQ ad! lol

"Insanely creative" key word Insane! Yeah, these people don't sound to me, interested in sharing God's word as it is, but would rather try and come up something they thought of to their own shame.

Most people watching Super Bowl dont pay attention to commercials. They mute them and go to the bathroom or to the kitchen for a drink or food.

I think what it is often missed in the pro woman point (aside from from Mother Mary) is that these women turned from their sin and followed Christ. Christ was never about social reform but repentance.

I'm actually kind of disappointed in Shaun. He normally does such a good job of asking probing questions and it feels like there was a missed opportunity to address the elephant in the room: repentance. The ad campaign didn't fail in regards to the whole washing feet thing, it failed in an articulate presentation of the call. I know he says "you can't get it all in there" but there's literally a recut someone put together that does a tremendous job of showing the kind of life altering experience He offers

Im just glad ads about Jesus are in the mainstream. ❤

Ed, if 600k people have signed up for your bible reading plan, you're not connecting with them very well. Or you've attracted people who don't want to read the Bible. You have ~10k people completing part 1 of the reading plan, 7.5k completing part 2, and part 3 and later aren't registering completion, presumably not hitting the first watermark. This is after a year of the campaign?!

We ARE trying to talk about Jesus but this campaign doesn't help it hurts us. We are talking about a Jesus who loves us so much that he gave his life for us so that we can be in an eternal relationship with God. He Gets Us is further dividing us by implying that if we teach that God came to save us and take us out of our sin then we are teaching h ate but if we affirm them in their sin we are loving. I would love to see you have him come back and answer some really good questions that push back on this campaign and also now that the super bowl is over what does he think about some of the alternate ads that people have put out.

My problem is that there are mistruths. Example: People fleeing from war. They weren't.

Never heard the term "pre-evangelism" in my life. That's silly. I loved Sean's question asking why they aren't emphasizing the divine side of Jesus. We already have another wishy washy, very human portrayal of Jesus in The Chosen. Why are He Gets Us and The Chosen trying to make it look like Jesus is just like us?

If you love someone and want them to get into heaven and want them to have peace with God, you need to tell them the truth, even if it hurts.