Head Tracking with Ping Pong Ball in PS Move Service

Head Tracking with Ping Pong Ball in PS Move Service - Setup Guide

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Virtual Controller support has now been added for the PS Move Service, and VR just became much cheaper! This guide will show you how to get everything setup and you can now get that PS Move controller off of your head!
This is a followup to my video series "Quest for Best Possible Head Tracking".
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@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Update - You can now calibrate with the virtual HMD so you no longer need a PS move controller to do the pose calibration! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gs-JnqeJ2piUhnU.html

@andrewmccobb3026 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech where's the link to the build?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pq2AZNSp3LiVfJc.html

@andrewmccobb3026 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech yea I literally just found it. im going to buy a controller though as the less I have arnt bright and my phones gyro isn't too good and they are only €20 here thanks though

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Just a heads up.. the controller can't substitute for your phone gyro. So I hope that isn't the tipping point for your decision.

@andrewmccobb3026 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech no I'm just too lazy

@OldGamerNoob 7 жыл бұрын

love the new intro

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@lfox02 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Daley, you've been very helpful! I was a bit distressed because I couldn't get my controllers to track once inside SteamVR but I realized that I just had to calibrate the tracker as well, and it worked surprisingly well with a single camera on top of my monitor. What I really wanted to play was VTOL VR, so I thought that all I'd need was the controllers. However, when using Trinus, my headset seems to be far below my controllers, so I can't push them even into the start button. When I eventually get my VR headset (I'm getting one of the VR-Tek ones pretty soon), I think I'll have the same issue since that one is also only 3DoF. Do you know a way I could "slew" headset upwards so that the controllers won't always be above my head? PSMoveService has turned out to be an absolute bargain thus far, so I'm pretty onboard with the idea of building this tracker, but I was wondering if you knew a workaround for the meantime.

@symbolizeofk622 7 жыл бұрын

Can you show me the setting of riftcat for best performance?

@if3ijoomboosick799 5 жыл бұрын

Best content bro))0)

@TooManyProjectsWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

Can you setup all 3 controllers like this? For example if I used a seperate 3dof controller could I attach a lit pingpong ball to the top to do the rest of the tracking?

@ghostfront769 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, do you know if you can use a ping pong ball to capture the movement of your hands in space, and at the same time use a joycon as controller?

@IlyesD 6 жыл бұрын

can i use one i the two controllers that i already own instead of getting another one ?

@wotkgz 7 жыл бұрын

Great tutorials thank you! Every day waiting for new videos:)! Btw what phone are you using for vr? And do you have any overheating problem?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying them! I try to put them out when I can, but this is a side project for me so I can't quite keep up to a daily upload. But I'm using a galaxy S6 edge+. I have gotten overheating before, but to be honest, it was almost avoidable or expected in all cases. Like.. using it outside in 28 degree weather! Ventilated headsets, or forgetting to turn screen brightness down. So really, user error any time it overheated. But it is touchy.

@wotkgz 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech Thank you for reply! wow i have same phone and Gear VR Innovator Edition purchased them 2 years ago. I thought it would be too old for VR for PC. But now I will give it a try. btw is it any differences between ps3 and ps4 move controllers will it work as expected? Looks like only 10$ differences for pair of controllers.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

No problem at all! Keep in mind, all the phone is doing is decoding the H.264 or H.265 video feed from the computer and relaying sensor data back to the PC. The PC is still the one rendering the game, and doing everything that a normal Vive or Oculus rift ran PC would do. In regards to the PS Move Controllers, the older PS3 ones are the best. if you can find used ones online that is ideal. Not only cause it's much cheaper, but also because they use an older firmware that still allows the PC to read the magnetometer. The new PS4 use a newer firmware that you can't calibrate the magnetometer with. Strangely enough!

@thepiratefox6349 5 ай бұрын

When I download freepie service, I haven't shortcut 'freepie' and can't run the script. And when I run exe file (fp bridge), it runs and then closes. And can't open any scripts there

@adonwise7580 7 жыл бұрын

I am having and issue with Riftcat. Seems like it may be a driver issue because im not getting a stream to my phone. riftcat attempts to stream but then it goes back into the app awaiting game

@amdboii3600 2 жыл бұрын

Can I combine two of dot lights for full tracking of the head without using phone`s gyroscope? I have bought Redmi 9 and there are no physical gyro

@TheUltimateBluemac 7 жыл бұрын

I know you get alot of suggestions, but you've got to make a video on the Pimax 4K headset and using it with NOLO/psmove service, since your channel is focused on budget vr I think it'd be right up your alley.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Bluemac, I always like to hear suggestions for sure! The Pimax 4k would be awesome and I agree with you entirely. But I unfortunately just don't own one! But I wish I did :)

@TheUltimateBluemac 7 жыл бұрын

consider getting one, theyre around 300 bucks.

@shieriker4392 6 жыл бұрын

Hello, im new and i this week in gonna buy everything i need to get started (4 ps eyes and 2 ps moves) i need to buy the third controller if im going to do my custom head tracking?

@DaleyTech 6 жыл бұрын

nope, no need to get a 3rd controller if you're going to use this tutorial.

@user-sx7du4lz3b 7 жыл бұрын

wow!Do you have Plugin for using in Unity?

@TechManPat 6 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why the video was familiar I use EDM Detection Mode in my videos to haha :)

@omransalmani9488 7 жыл бұрын

please make a video about nolo vs ps move im really exited

@hotboyphil 7 жыл бұрын

ya i , wana see a vive vs a nolo! he's the only one who's releasing vids regularly on nolo

@user-lq3op9gy4o 7 жыл бұрын

Daley seems to be the only one covering Nolo and Riftcat extensively. Every other channels tends to be one and done.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I can see why, it's not hugely popular just yet, but I really enjoy it so I continue to do it for the fun of it and help others out who are in this small community. Also, as an update, I'm just starting to work on the nolo vs ps move compare. Hopefully it turns out well since I think a lot of people are looking forward to it. Thanks everyone!

@MadmanEpic 7 жыл бұрын

So without having any part of either of these systems, would you recommend NOLO or PSMove? NOLO seems like it'll work better for me since I only have two walls near my PC and I really hate drift, but I'd like to be sure.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

If you have no parts at all, and you prefer to have something just plug and play, then nolo may be the best bet. PS Move Service does require some troubleshooting and a fair bit of setup to get working.

@sahkopingviini1383 5 жыл бұрын

can you do it wired version cuz i dont have bluethoot

@gentamatsui 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone help me? My PC cant run FreePIE for some reason and i have contacted the Dev of FreePIE and he cant seem to find a solution so if anyone here on youtube can help me id appreciate it.

@juvi427 7 жыл бұрын

Nice. Even though I got the nolo setup, I might give the PS move service a shot now that I only need to get my hands on 1-3 more cheaply had PS eye cameras. How different is the setup if you are setting things up from scratch? I've watched your other PS move service setup video, but just wanted to make sure.. Can't wait to check out more content.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

You will need 2-3 cameras :) 1 camera just doesn't work very well at all. But things are somewhat different in the main setup now compared to my setup guide. It's still close enough to get through, but I really should get a new one up soon. It is just painfully long to put those together.

@juvi427 7 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that i already have one PS eye. How well does the head tracking work if the PS eyes can't see the entire ball of light? Does it need to see the entire sphere, or can it get by seeing part of it?

@BoomBrush 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, glad you made this video in regards to that reddit thread. I've asked a lot of friends and they don't have any PS3 Move controllers. :(((. Is there any way to do this without any Ps3 Move controller and ONLY a pingpong ball? Thanks.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

It's something that has been addressed over there, and last I read it's not really possible just yet. If I find some way, I'll be sure to update! But I'm sure somebody over at the PSMS community will get something worked out as well.

@teyehree 6 жыл бұрын

The ps move folder inside of the appdata folder had nothing in it for me. Anyone know how to fix this?

@KowOneOhTwo 4 жыл бұрын

So my question is, if I duck down with this setup will I duck in the game? Can I walk around a room?

@notme9916 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! Yet i have a issue running freepie v14 when ps service is running. Freepie crashes after a few seconds of opening it. Can you help me on this???? Thanks

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Actual Freepie crashes? Seems odd, have you tried to re-install freepie? And just make sure it's running the vanilla example script.

@superslashers3555 6 жыл бұрын

In Australia it’s au$4 for the camera

@LwNickV 5 жыл бұрын

This will also work for Beat Saber or something right? it will detect you stepping to the left or right?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

That's correct. That's the exact point of doing this.

@gh0stcrab360 6 жыл бұрын

hey dude, i have a problem. my virtual HMD is tracking when i test it in the psmoveconfig but when i load steamvr it doesnt track. i confirmed all my files were up and running and the psmovefreepiebridge did "connect" to the hmd. idk whats not working. by the way im using a program called iVRy for streaming not riftcat because i have an iphone, dont know if that has anything to do with it

@pillow2364 6 жыл бұрын

The 3D Printing Dude Same problem , i am using Trinus Vr because when i tried to use Riftcat it crashed . In the Psmoveconfig everything is good but when i start steam vr , it doesn't work , but the controller works.

@williamwhite6645 6 жыл бұрын

You should try driver4vr

@TheBrules 5 жыл бұрын

Did u solve it?

@Manobrodas 5 жыл бұрын

Same problem, any solution?

@kalvarezrojas 6 жыл бұрын

Hello, Daley Thank you for the video, have a oculus DK2 and two psmove and have 2 pseye, seems my computer cant get 4 cameras at time, the question is, can I use this to head tracking with my DK2 to get more free movement than Oculus sensor?

@DaleyTech 6 жыл бұрын

Yes you can. You need to use Driver4VR though. Check this video out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMyPiqR33t3NYaM.html

@kalvarezrojas 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Daley , awesome... I follow all your videos to set up my cheap VR gear, great job. Im From Costa Rica... !pura Vida!!! ... Gracias...

@sticks_stuff 7 жыл бұрын

Hey, Daley Tech I have a problem with Superhot and PS Move controllers. When I launch superhot my hands aren't tracked to my controllers. All I see is some floating hands that should be tracked to my hands. These hands do not move at all and I can look right into them. Note that my controllers track in every other game I've tried. user-images.githubusercontent.com/4157860/27505053-5d5244d0-58ea-11e7-9885-c9660354a89a.png Can you help me with this?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I have not tried Superhot with my PS move controllers yet, only Nolo. That's really strange that it work in every game other than Superhot though.

@sticks_stuff 7 жыл бұрын

Ah well, thank you for replying though.

@Diego-ok3zy 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! Does anyone knows if I can replace the PS move controller with a sixaxis ps3 controller? Tks!

@illuc_ 4 жыл бұрын

Hello from 2020 Sadly you can't replace ps move with ps3 controller

@TheMeganano 7 жыл бұрын

If I had a daddy like this teach me how to do stuff in school I would have been half as dumb as I am now. xD

@gonekrazy3000 7 жыл бұрын

Hey. looking at your excellent videos I actually made my own PS move room using 4 cameras. but I'm facing a problem. while I got the tracking working well in psmove service including using a pinpong ball for my headset in steamVr it seems to completely ignore my headsets position. already activated multiple hmd and did everything else in the guide. including putting rift cats tracking to phone sensors + opentrack. please help. I'm guessing I've messed up with stream vr settings somewhere...

@Coldshade 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. I've the same problem now. Have you solved it?

@gonekrazy3000 4 жыл бұрын

@@Coldshade I did get it working eventually but that was years ago. I've actually moved into buying an Oculus rift and a quest since then.... As amazing as using psmoveservice is it's better to just get a dedicated VR hmd. The quality difference is night and day.

@Coldshade 4 жыл бұрын

@@gonekrazy3000 Oh thanks...

@agusseq 2 ай бұрын

@@gonekrazy3000 Man, how did you get it to work? I'm a lil late

@gonekrazy3000 Ай бұрын

@@agusseq just get a quest 2 cheap. much better and easier.

@TrisTrisgames 7 жыл бұрын

i get the error when i try to do the setup for the hmd: FreepieMoveClient - failed to acquire HMD

@TrisTrisgames 7 жыл бұрын

any thoughts??

@SilverNightshade74 7 жыл бұрын

What happened to the build video of the ping pong ball head marker?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I do it in this video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pq2AZNSp3LiVfJc.html

@phant0m739 6 жыл бұрын

Cool

@kawa9882 7 жыл бұрын

PsMoveService 1.3.0、PSMoveFreePieBridge Release13. Does riftcat work with this version?

@albundi2985 7 жыл бұрын

Yes. You don't even have to change your freepie script.

@kawa9882 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@jeroengijselhart3567 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Daley. Props for you very clear and helpful videos. After a windows reboot I can't get SteamVR to recognize the headtracking. It's tracking just fine in Test Tracking Pose in the PSMoveconfig tool, just not in Steam. The two controllers are also working in SteamVR. Any ideas on what I missed? Maybe something I have to add or remove in steamvr.settings file? Thanks in advance

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

For head tracking to work, you need to make sure you have FreePie running the script, and you need to select what your tracking with PS Move Freepie Bridge, then in Riftcat, you need to make sure you have the tracking set to Phone orientation and Freetrack position. With all of those in place, it should work. Your steamvr.vrsettings file seems to be fine if the controllers work as they should.

@jeroengijselhart3567 7 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks for the reply. However: FreePie is running the script. In PS Move Freepie Bridge I select: 1) HMD 2) Controllers Which device type do you want to track: 1 Enter the ID of the device you wish to use: 0 I don't run Rifftcat since I'm not using a phone. It also worked previously without Rifftcat. Any ideas left?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

What program are you using to relay the freetrack data from Freepie to SteamVR? Riftcat takes care of it for mobile phones, so whatever headset you have, you would need to use some sort of bridge. It sounds like the problem lies there.

@jeroengijselhart3567 7 жыл бұрын

The issue turned out to be that the FreePie Input for Steam was unchecked in Trinus. Thanks for the help!

@dfctor1086 7 жыл бұрын

which psmoveservice releass do you have?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I try to always use the latest

@danw3456 7 жыл бұрын

Can you use more than just one ping pong ball on the HMD to increase tracking accuracy? Like put one on top and one on each side of your head? If so, would you need different colors?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

As of right now, only 1 is really supported, but once you have your trackers setup right, you should see it stabilize much more.

@danw3456 7 жыл бұрын

Cool. I'll get that dialed in then. Does it matter if I'm using the 2015 Gear VR (white) instead of the 2016 Gear VR (black)? I know the fov is larger in the 2016. But are there enough features to warrant buying the newer model for $35? Or is there a better headset to get instead?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I bought the 2016 when I already had the 2015, and I do notice a decent amount of different. The FOV is a TINY bit bigger, but most importantly, I find it doesn't fog up as much and the inside is black. So I found a cheap used one online and got it. But I've heard from many people that it's not worth the upgrade, but I thought it was. What I don't like though, is that you need a USB-C adapter to use the external port. That part is a pain, but it does come with the gear.

@iamapie13 7 жыл бұрын

if I already have a 3rd controller from the past, can I use the gyro for head tracking? my phone gyro has a massive drift

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I believe you can, but it's not all that great from what I hear. I have not really tried it myself since rarely does anyone have anything good to say about it. Wish I had better news!

@iamapie13 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech I've tried it in the past, aparently from my experience the "Yaw" orientation works the best (and that's exactly the axis with drift on my phone's gyro) trying to use all orientation at the same time makes a GIGANT mess, unfortunately I can't find a way to mix together the PSMove gyro with the Phone gyro, I haven't used my VR Set up in a while because of this (and school wich is about to finish in one week) and I just wanted to see if anyone has come up with a solution

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Mixing together may be tricky! Even making sure one or the other is working correctly is challenge enough.

@StasisTV 7 жыл бұрын

what mic do you use?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I just use an AT2020. It's a decent mic, but it's just the USB attached version.

@haturoki5109 7 жыл бұрын

I am going to save up for the nolo vr I hope they don't bump up the price to like $300 or $700 because it is comparable to the vive.... and also did nolo vr sponsor you?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

It definitely won't go that high. They took enough flack for going to $200. And no, I'm not sponsored by Nolo. They sent me a sample unit to test, but outside of that, I'm just doing this cause I have a lot of fun with it. Besides, I'm a real backer as well cause I believe in it so my 2nd unit actually just showed up a couple days ago. lol

@haturoki5109 7 жыл бұрын

wait was the sample unit free or was it the early bird?

@jackarock6425 6 жыл бұрын

Can i make a foot tracker with this? Like the trackers for the vive full body tracker?

@DaleyTech 6 жыл бұрын

If you're looking for full body tracking, you may want to try something like an xbox one kinect and Driver4VR. That would probably be your best bet since that will actually track your full body and not just some points on your body.

@jackarock6425 6 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech i dont want to buy a kinect Some points of the body is fine I want to keep it as cheap as posible Also trinuspsvr can track the headset itself I can use ps move to so 2 cameras wil be good enough

@Ludiks 5 жыл бұрын

Ok I have everything running great, I figured out my pseye issues came from usb cable. BUT now I've build a nice bulb for tracking, it work great in PsMoveService but not at all in SteamVR. Is there another way to get it work without Driver4VR ? Iam using all this with a Pimax 4k (8k will be there soon).

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

not as far as I know unless you're using an xbox kinect.

@Ludiks 5 жыл бұрын

Ok thank you. Iam on it but cant figure out how to make it work. Tried with and without freepie and psmovefreepie. Nothing better, still no tracking under steam. 3 days Iam on this now the last thing that was supposed to be easy is another pain :( Iam setting this up for my kids with the 4k so we might be able to play together when the 8k arrives (early backer).

@Ludiks 5 жыл бұрын

I can use bulb on hmd with psmovesteamvrbridge and driver4vr without a kinect right? Pseye should get the tracking for the virtual hmd from PsMoveService to Driver4vr? When searching for my issue I see everyone talking about the kinect so far :( .

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

You need software to send the data from freepie to SteamVR. If you're using a phone, then Riftcat is doing it. So Piplay doesn't have a way of sending freepie data to SteamVR as head positional data. That is what Driver4VR does. There is an alternative similar but it's dedicated for Kinect. PS move service only does hand controllers since those are tracked very differently than head position.

@Ludiks 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, yes I just purchased Driver4vR since I got it working, I reinstalled everything again, like all camera, BT adapter, config etc etc. And it works now ! Thank you for your work !

@scotty777scotty 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Daley Tech. I'm not really interested in VR as much as I am simply interested in 'VR for Elite: Dangerous'. So my question is, for E:D ONLY, if you had the choice on either a Pimax with your positioning setup, or an Oculus Rift, (pretend price isnt an issue) and pretend both headsets are stuck in their current state, which would you choose? Is the head tracking you've designed here as flawless as an Oculus CV1? does the loss of SDE far outweigh any tracking issues? Thanks for your time.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

TBH, go with Oculus Rift. The SDE may be more noticeable, but keep in mind, the Pimax uses HDMI 1.4 which has a max of 4K @ 30Hz. So the 4K bit is true.. but only kinda. So you would have to drop the resolution to increase frame rate. And keep in mind as well, your brain will start to ignore the SDE after a bit of use. It's not something you will notice long term. You will only notice it for the first few minutes. Plus the tracking on the CV1 is much better than this setup. This setup works well, but not as good as Oculus.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, you would get 60 when lower. That's correct. And believe me, the fact that there is little-no SDE doesn't cure motion sickness. Motion sickness is caused when your head makes a movement and your eyes see something else. So think like latency and sudden tracking loss will case it. In fact, this is precisely the reason why the DK2 screen fades to gray when tracking is lost. Most people wan to turn that off so they don't lose their display all together when the camera loses the headset. That normally doesn't last long cause vomit comes up if that tracking is suddenly lost and the screen stops all of the sudden while turning around. The quality of the display is something to be noted as well. Oculus rift will have much better color as well. Many sites will state that between the Vive and Rift, the Rift display is much better. And I've never heard really great things about the Pimax display. Plus the extra resources that the PS move service ads. It's also more difficult to setup than the rift and the number of benefits from the oculus outweigh the pimax. If you have a Note 4 and headset. Grab 2 ps eye cameras and try the setup before you buy one of the 2. Make sure you can get it working with Riftcat. Cameras are pretty cheap and to make that head tracking, it's super cheap as well. May be worth a try since it could be a deal breaker for the Pimax.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I did watch a bit of that video and it's an interesting perspective. Most of what I've seen on the pimax suggests otherwise, but driver updates can always help fix things too, so perhaps it's gotten better. I guess if you're looking at ED only, perhaps it may be the better go then! I have never tried the Pimax, and really wish I could.

@scotty777scotty 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech ohhhhhh. Flip, I coulda sworn you had a pimax 4k vid previously, thats why I asked. Sorry man, haha. Thanks for your time.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

no sweat. I'm just following what I've seen online and what others have told me.

@gearsofinspiration8528 7 жыл бұрын

hi please would you be able to end amazon links to the parts list I know that these parts can be found very affordable it just takes out some of the guess work with the wiring.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

The biggest concern is the LED to use. You need to use a decently bright LED. Here is the only one I could find that would be ideal. amzn.to/2rWYz7n I'll update the description with more parts

@gearsofinspiration8528 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech ok thanks also the tutorial is great and useful

@mungewell 7 жыл бұрын

Wonder if something like this would work... www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/50277133/ Great video BTW. Thanks.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And I bet that would work just fine if you put a ping pong ball on top of it. However it looks like it may be a bit heavy once you fill it with 4x AA batteries :(

@Psy-borg 5 жыл бұрын

Can you use 2 "normal" webcam for this?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

No, needs to be PS eye cams.

@toastedtaco55 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech, I am working on a system similar to yours but with wiimotes. I am wondering if I can use psmove tracking balls for headtracking and controller tracking.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Yep, you can map out virtual controllers and virtual HMDs

@toastedtaco55 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech thank you so much. I am also wondering if I can track literal vertical movement. so like standing to crouching with hmd headtracking

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Yep, that is done with Freepie. Most of my main setup guide would apply. Expcept for calibration the controllers, you would make virtual controllers and not have to worry about controller calibration since other software would take care of your wiimotes. You would also follow this virtual HMD guide as is.

@toastedtaco55 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech ok final question. Where do you buy the LEDs for the tracker?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

I normally get mine at a local electronics store, but aliexpress or amazon should have them as well. They just need to be something like a 1W LED and colored ones make it easier.

@storm722 7 жыл бұрын

Couldn't you do this with ps navigation controllers and save because ps navigation is way cheaper

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

unfortunately the navi controllers have no way of determining orientation. The virtual controllers will only compute the position in the room and not any type of rotation.

@the_unkilled2238 5 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have a problem with my ping pong ball i used for this project. I have actually tried 3 different balls, and each one has it's own problem. The most common one is the lines from the ball assembly(This is the picture if you don't understand me: imgur.com/a/olijJBT ), it blocks out the light and the cameras don't detect it very well. Any recomendations?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

That little line shouldn't matter all that much. When testing, you should see the blue box tracking it the entire time still. You can also right click a bit closer to that line and see if you can get it to fill up a little more, or turn up the gain a little bit as well.

@the_unkilled2238 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know if you looked at the image i linked,but when i calibrate it and then use it in pose testing, it is very shaky. So i looked at the video tracking test and saw it bouncing up and down(under and above the line.) Will try some more things.

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

Ahh.. I see. Here is another idea potentially. If you have a file or sandpaper, you can try to make that line a bit thinner to let some more light through. Don't take too much off though for obvious reasons. But try the gain adjustment if you haven't already. But remember that it will affect everything else when you change it. And yes, i did check the image and fully understand what you mean.

@the_unkilled2238 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, will try the sandpaper. And the gain adjustment actually worked... to a certain degree at least. I don't know if it's because of the lightning(btw what is the "optimal lighting" setup)but it is working better, only that it's still a little bit shaky. Will try different lightnings,exposures etc... But thanks for the help so far! If you get any more ideas please send them. Love your channel! And you always respond really fast, seriously, it's amazing. Cheers!

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

No problem! Glad I can help :) Optimal lighting is what you would consider as "dim". That way the colored orbs stand out but it's no so dark that they reflect off of everything. Keep in mind, the end goal result is that you get a playable experience. If you're going for perfection it won't happen. Even PSVR doens't feel perfect compared to the vive or oculus. So as long as it's working and not making you sick and you can dodge things in game, that's a win. You can always keep trying to tweak it further, but it really just depends on how much time you want to put into it.

@shiftednrifted 7 жыл бұрын

Did the video on how to make it go down? The corner card didn't take me there

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

It's the top video on the corner card. I actually built it quite some time ago knowing that the support was coming for it.

@shiftednrifted 7 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail is confusing, found it

@driftlizard9081 7 жыл бұрын

when i hold out my arms and turn in a circle my arms get longer on one side and shorter on the other, how can i fix this?

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

There is a way to do it in the freepie script, but I'm unsure. Sorry I can't help with that. But you can try moving the bulb between the middle of your head, and on the headset. For some odd reason, people get different results between the 2.

@driftlizard9081 7 жыл бұрын

ill cheak out the freepie script, thanks

@n1ckee798 7 жыл бұрын

When i have 4 cameras it does not work when i have 3 so it works pls help

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

It's most likely a USB bandwidth issue. Try putting that 4th camera into different ports, or drop your FPS of the cameras during the color calibration.

@2bmurders 7 жыл бұрын

When setting up the "Compute Tracker Poses Using Controller", I can't get past "location #1". Do you have any suggestions?

@2bmurders 7 жыл бұрын

Never mind, I got it to work now with the positional tracking for my HMD. But now I can't get SteamVR to recognize my PS Move controllers.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

You can click the button where it says Trust me, it's stable. It will just run through that point.

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry, didn't see this response right away. You will need to make sure you have the activate multiple drivers flag set to TRUE in your steamvr.vrsettings file.

@2bmurders 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the response. I have now set the SteamVR setting file to below but it still doesn't seem to work. I'm going to re-install SteamVR to see if that works. { "psmove" : { "circle" : "a", "cross" : "button_8", "move" : "touchpad", "ps" : "system", "select" : "button_9", "square" : "grip", "start" : "button_10", "triangle" : "application_menu", "trigger" : "trigger" }, "steamvr" : { "activateMultipleDrivers" : true } }

@2bmurders 7 жыл бұрын

FYI, my solution was to boot into Windows 10 safe mode, run "SteamVR_InitialSetupWin64" and then "SteamVR_ReinstallDriverWin64". Now it works just fine (must be some kind of permission issue regardless of Administrator access).

@clifftonicstudios7469 6 жыл бұрын

Ok i got diy hmd. It tracks fine but not in steam,

@LeroxTube 5 жыл бұрын

What was the solution? I have the same problem :/

@Napert 4 жыл бұрын

what if i can't get 3rd controller?

@RvNNvR 4 жыл бұрын

You don't need to have 3 controllers. You can make custom HMD tracker like he shown here

@artemiyzubarev7068 4 жыл бұрын

Can I use other cameras for this?

@DaleyTech 4 жыл бұрын

no, has to be ps eye

@artemiyzubarev7068 4 жыл бұрын

@@DaleyTech ok

@CanalDojogames 7 жыл бұрын

amazing! i have 2 questions: 1- If i setup hmd on psmove Will It recognize everytime as hmd? If yes them It can send directly without bug the hands because i need to configure on steam folds to ignore hmd Mac serial... and sometimes steam crashs and i need to redo and test If It works,If not i need to do again and restart all. a little thing: If i setup hmd on like you showed,i could not use the bulb light but the Psvr lights.... but them there is another problem...It cannot track all 7 lightbars.. i wish psmove service guys could do this track Works them i dont need another psmove on Head..because It sometimes lose track and falling down from my PSVR....kkkk. but its ok. thank you for the video

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, this way you don't have to enter in any serial and you're telling freepiebridge to track the virtual HMD instead of an assigned ID that could get mixed up (which it has for me in the past a few times). Some PSVR work has been done with PSMS, but there are a lot of complications and with so few developers the demand for it was pretty low so it has not really been looked at for some time now.

@CanalDojogames 7 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech thanks,thats amazing. i did found this hmd option early but couldnt find How enable...so i Will give a try on PSvR lightbars..maybe It helps... about devs: its sadly because we can get more cheap games that are the same as ps4(Psvr) on steam VR..but one day anyone Will solve it

@dieselaegean 5 жыл бұрын

can you give us the Auto Hot Key script please

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

I believe I have it posted in my main setup guide, but keep in mind you'll have to edit it to fit your folder locations

@shiftednrifted Жыл бұрын

Come back Daley

@jsncarrier 5 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to use just navigation controllers with ping-pong balls on top?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

No, there is no gyro or magnetometer in the navi controller

@jsncarrier 5 жыл бұрын

@@DaleyTech I'm planning on doing this setup, how accurate are the motion controllers able to be? Would it help to have a camera aiming down from above? Is the max 4?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

Having that camera wouldn't be needed. 3-4 cameras are ideal but you can go more if I recall correctly. I saw some custom versions of the software floating around and able to go beyond. I don't recommend it though since it adds far more complications than it's worth.

@jsncarrier 5 жыл бұрын

@@DaleyTech thanks for the advice! Quick reply too!

@user-ov6sc8xh5b 7 жыл бұрын

why my camera can't see the ball in the masked mode

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

You need to right click on it while in RGB mode first.

@cybrhckr 4 жыл бұрын

If you are a cardboard genre head mount's user and front is able to open like mine you can put a colored ping pong ball with a tape to the front and open the flashlight of the phone LOL

@NonsenseSystems 5 жыл бұрын

could i put that on a controller?

@DaleyTech 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that controller needs rotational sensors built in

@NonsenseSystems 5 жыл бұрын

Daley Tech thanks. I was thinking about putting them on wiimotes

@n1ckee798 7 жыл бұрын

When i click steam vr on riftcat then error psmoveservice comes

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

Can you give a bit more detail?

@n1ckee798 7 жыл бұрын

psmoveservice has stopped working in win32 When i click on steam vr

@omransalmani9488 7 жыл бұрын

Wow!! i only have to use 2 controllers now thank you but for me this video isn't helpful because my phone doesn't have gyroscope sensor if i get a new phone i will make sure that the phone have gyro and i will make sure to watch this video and again Thx Bro

@crisrose9707 6 жыл бұрын

any phone will work as a screen with TrinusVR. normally you use the phone as a head tracker too with the gyroscope but if your phone doesnt have one then you could use this or a move controller or a gyroscopic mouse for head tracking/movement instead :)

@toastedtaco55 7 жыл бұрын

PSMoveService.exe won't start

@ZooyZoborne 6 жыл бұрын

it's pretty sleezy to "borrow" from best buy. find a used game store and ask them if you can use one for a few hours.

@OldGamerNoob 7 жыл бұрын

now all they need to figure out is how to get a ping pong ball stuck to a cell phone or wiimote for a hand control ... totally DIY SteamVR

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

This is totally possible in this release as well! Wiimote would be ideal, and if I get my hands on a wiimote, I may give it a shot.

@hackingkiddycats2390 7 жыл бұрын

Wow ps move not nolo

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

You got it! As great as Nolo is, I still love my PS Move setup. It's still being developed, and it's an amazing project that I know will keep getting better.

@omransalmani9488 7 жыл бұрын

first

@hackingkiddycats2390 7 жыл бұрын

Semi-first

@DaleyTech 7 жыл бұрын

You both win!