Thanks mate, I appreciate that. I can say after touring the 'top end' for a few months now in some rough and rugged terrains and temps, it is still performing well 👍

That's great to hear and I've heard other stories like this too. No product is perfect but to have a company that responds like that is very reassuring 👍

Thanks 🙏 Your products have provided me with opportunities that otherwise wouldn't have been possible and I've pushed them hard. Very impressed and looking forward to seeing what you continue to create moving forward 👍

I agree with the the fact that it is uncessary to spend 1500 or more on a 100ah lithium battery however I am yet to see a convincing long term review on a sub $700 battery. As with most products or services, I believe there's an optimal price point which isn't at the bottom or the top of the range. Cheers

Thanks for you input mate, that sounds spot on. Although the cells may vary I believe it's a law of diminishing returns when spending that much money. It's just about finding the right compromise and in my case a company that supports the mounting location 👍

Awesome, good to hear mate 👍 We have had good experiences with ours now even after touring the 'top end' for a couple of months in some hot temps 🥵

Thanks mate, I'll learn up on this 👍 Good to hear your's is still going strong as well 👍

Correct, it’s not 30 amps in and 15 amps out, it’s just 15 amps in.

That's awesome to hear!

Awesome, that's great mate and I'm so glad to hear that's its working well. No doubt you'll be like me now and never look back from lithium 👍

Thanks mate, I agree. For me personally, they've performed very well. For sure, something I'll look to do, probably towards the end or at the end of my trip 👍

Thanks mate, I appreciate that 🙏 It has been holding up well for us even after a few hot months up north 👍

Thanks mate, I actually picked up on that myself upon editing this episode! Lucky not to have caused any dramas myself here 😬

Thanks mate, it has been good to us, here's hoping you have the same experience 🙏

Awesome, that's great to hear mate 👍 I'll see if this is something they are considering in their models moving forward. Here's hoping many more years of trouble free use 🤞

Thanks Ian, always appreciated. Here's hoping it continues well into there future 🤞 (Don't really want to use that 'failed' thumbnail haha)

Thanks Jim, appreciate that 🙏 I'll get back to your message shortly 👍

Thanks mate, appreciate it 👍

Go get an autograph mate, get him to sign ur boob 😂😂👍

Nice! They certainly do well for the value! What a great park right! 😆

Thanks mate appreciate that. Here's hoping that this information can assist others 👍

🤣 Yes, it was hard, little bit of marker to cover up the existing logo 😆 Thanks mate 👍

Thanks mate, I appreciate that 🙏 I can genuinely say that this battery has been good for my setup. I will try and get another 12 month review out in February this year on the same unit 👍

Thanks mate 👍

Thanks mate, appreciate it 👍

Haha, yes there are many doubters out there claiming they don't last, but even if they don't last 10 years, the other benefits far outweigh this! I agree though, I will never go back to a traditional chemistry 👍

Haha, knew you would 😉 Time to wait... 🍿

Thanks mate, yeah I understand that nothing is perfect and all products have their limitations, but these are doing well for me in my application. I have heard mixed reviews about after sales service, however given the volume they sell and the fact that those who aren't happy are often much more vocal, I'd say it's good overall. 👍

Thanks mate, glad this could be helpful. In my setup, I'm using the Victron BMV712 module. So far it's performed well, however the shunt (measurement device) needs to be mounted away from the elements. I had issues with my first shunt under the bonnet. Would recommend and would do the same again if I had my time over 👍

It is a little longer, however I trimmed the battery tray to be flat so that it would fit. An installation video is in my first 120X budget battery video 👍

I also had an itech under bonnet cranking battery It suffered the same issue of being drained by the auxiliary battery I did install the victron voltage regulator under the bonnet to prevent this constant drain Unfortunately the victron units are not rated at high temps 50degrees plus I ended up getting a Century lead acid cranking battery as I’ve had flat batteries in the bush b4 and never again I put the lithium starter battery in a battery box and is now my camp power source and spare starter battery

Redarc RK1260 relay should fix levelling problem.

@@michaelhermans4753 What if... you had the itech for both main and auxilliary? Wouldn't that equalize things?

@@eaglen00b the problem is the itech dcdc charger is designed to isolate the starter battery at 12.7 volts which works for lead acid, but is flat for lithium. Itech know the problem but do not mention it on their website. This also applies to redarc dcdc chargers

Cheers mate 👍

No problems mate, glad it could help. Keep in mind the original 120X (not the PRO version) is now a whole lot smaller, so that might help space wise?

The new iTECH120X is 255mm wide by 170mm deep and 255mm in height if that helps?

Thanks mate. I purchased this from eBay. This is similar to what I used, however I can't find the exact same product anymore 👍 ebay.us/PruHf3

Thanks mate 👍

Wow, ok. Well certainly a little more 2c worth here, but I’ve got a few points for everyone who reads this to consider. 1. There are some very strong opinions from your end in regards to their warranty claim, particularly since it would appear that you haven’t actually experienced this yourself. You need to keep in mind that every product has vulnerabilities and can fail and given that iTechWorld sell thousands upon thousands of these units, there are going to be failures. 2. Why do you think I went lithium in the first place? Because the ’so called legendary’ AGM battery failed prior to this…. Twice! 3. You have inferred that I’m somewhat paid or incentivised for these reviews? I purchased my first lithium battery like everyone else at full price. I knock back affiliate marketing to remove my incentive for positive reviews (I mean, I was pretty clear in the video). I don’t get paid, nor am I required to conduct these follow up reviews. 4. I’ve never heard of WA Wanderers and can’t find the video you are talking about, but let’s keep a couple of things in mind. Firstly, we don’t know the full story. Sure we know what they are saying, but are you 100% certain there isn’t some other dialogue going on in the background and secondly, YTer’s like the drama. They get more views like this. The bigger and more dramatic a failure is, the more this is emphasised in their videos. 5. Have you been to the Kimberley, or the Gibb River Road? It isn’t remote by any means? You can drive the entire unsealed high speed road in a single sitting. You have Kununurra to the east and Broome to the west, both of which operate regular mail programs. I should know, I lived in the east Kimberley for several years. Regardless of whether it failed here or in the middle of the CSR, as mentioned earlier, anything can fail and my AGM did, so what if that happened? Should I start roasting my AGM supplier? 6. Lastly, I can’t and don’t comment on customer service. I am treated somewhat differently because of my videos and this wouldn’t be fair to comment. I have heard both good and bad reviews on their customer service, however without personal experience, it’s not fair to relay second hand info. I can evidently see that you are well and truely against iTechWorld batteries, maybe lithium in general, however I sincerely hope that this isn’t because of a single YT’ers opinion on the matter. Are iTechWorld batteries perfect, absolutely not. Do they offer great value for money for those seeking lithium, absolutely. I am due for a long term 12 month review in February ’24 for this unit and I’ll have some comments to make, however I can hand of heart say that these are genuine results. (PS. I have had some minor issues, all of which will be aired in Feb). I hope you find the solution you are looking for in your setup and don’t stress too much about other peoples situations. Not all of us are out here (YT’ers) are looking for a quick payday. Have a great New Year mate 👍

Good idea, this would give a better representation 👍

Hey mate, this is separated by that Redarc BCDC1240D charger which is triggered to charge from a 70A heavy duty relay 👍

I'll have a review coming out where I test the capacity amongst other specs in about 2 weeks. This will be a full 12 month review. Overall, yes, its performing well and I'm happy to keep it 👍

Don't you mean 3k? Or you got a y62?

For sure, these do appear to be great options, however as you mentioned, they are significantly more expensive, so I guess it depends on what kind of use you plan on getting out of them. Although I understand these need chargers, they make it perfect for many of us out there with systems setup with more traditional auxiliary AGM/Gel etc batteries. 👍

I’ve had issues with DCS batteries one had a cell that failed another the blue tooth doesn’t work It was an expensive exercise I’ve also noticed KZfaqrs with DCS batteries When they upgrade their 4 wheel drives some time later And install lithium it’s never a DCS

@@michaelhermans4753 Yeah I guess every product can have its issues. More importantly, how did DCS resolve your problem, how was their customer service? I very rarely take notice of youtubers and their product reviews, most of them have very limited knowledge, especially when it comes to electrical. They're also bias towards the products they're reviewing, even though they'll go blue in the face trying to convince you that they're not sponsored ect ect.

Disappointed to hear you say that and personally I think there is a lack of education in the 'social media influencer' business these days. Whether you believe me or not, that's up to you but apart from receiving the unit, I'm not influenced one way or the other in terms of my data or opinion. I don't get emails from iTech, so I don't know what the material was, but I'm assuming it was one of my videos? If so, it's on the internet, they can refer and link to any video on the platform they want, nothing I can do about it and I didn't even realise they did it. I get these comments on every video, all the time. I don't know how else to say it, I don't know what other 'challenges' I can issue like I have previously. If my iTech fails tomorrow, then you can guess my next video, but it seems to fall on deaf ears time and time again 😞 In the end I've given up trying to convince and educate people on my stance. Now I just put up my videos as they stand, with the data and experiences I have encountered. Take it or leave it, its your call...

And battery configuration, they’re running 275A out of chemistry designed for 2C max discharge for a typical set of cells, are they paralleling the cells?

Thanks Dave, appreciate it 👍 So yes, I'm still currently using and abusing the iTechWorld 1420CA PRO starter battery (slightly different lithium chemistry). This has been installed for over a year now and working well, including many winch applications. If you are looking at this, I would probably just look at the pros/cons of using Lithium Ion as opposed to LifePO4 chemistry first 👍

Would be interested to hear how you go with this 👍

Yeah, that’s a bit disappointing. I mean, we’ve done plenty of slow going rough terrain 4WD’ing, including the OTL at ambient temps of 30 + degrees. I’ll share this clip with you, although I will mention that this was with the older 120X unit. I really couldn’t of got the engine bay much warmer than this! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/leChY8eL1cebnHU.htmlsi=J-4VfG2IZosxvFUq

This is the type of heat shield material I'm using - ebay.us/rbDmxI

Thanks for that Nathan. I have ordered some of the heat shield product. We have upgraded the battery / Solar system on our van and I have a couple of 120x batteries surplus so thought I would run one of them under the hood of my Toyota for my 75 Litre fridge.

The figures aren't incorrect. I've tested every circuit in my vehicle and every single one of them calculates into the total usage per figures. All, except for the ARB air compressor. I appreciate your concern though.

Ahh, that's no good man. Did ItechWorld come to the party to help with the repairs though? Noted though, don't leave in rain 😆

@@XploringOz No. They do not have spare parts. So I was left to source a third party replacement BMS. Sadly they seem to be reluctant to help.

Yep, that was us 👍

@@XploringOz If you need any help or advice on what to see and do give me a yell.

@@Dennis-zr3fb Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙏

Absolutely, what a great example of another YT'er independently testing these. Everyone seems to think DCS is the 'best brand', but there was few results to back this up... until now 👍

For sure, I agree with you there. I charge the battery through a Redarc BCDC 1240D charger (under bonnet). I have done over 30000km with this battery from Victoria, up the East Coast, Cape York, Savannah Way, NT parks and now on the Gibb River Road as I travel the country full time Temperatures varying from 1 degree overnight to high 30's in the top end, with humidity. I did longer term testing with my previous 120X unit and this performed well given the scenarios over a longer period of time. Obviously as time passes, my testing and reporting will continue 👍

Can we confirm which model these batteries were? If they were the original 120X units it clearly stated in the specs that they were 100Ah batteries? If it was the 120X PRO units, then yes I see your problem. If the name 120X was misleading, then can I ask how all the other AGM manufactures get away with the same branding without complaint? eg. FullRiver AGM advertise as a 105Ah capacity, but only get about 75Ah?