Fellas, from a time and production standpoint, this was no doubt, a time consuming and pricey experiment. From a payoff standpoint, this may be one of your best videos yet. Y'all went full on BILL NYE on us! This was such an important video in your guys' lineup...I think it'll be a milestone video in your arsenal. Great job at isolating all the variables and trying each solution. I friggin love the work you guys do!

I am a DIY homeowner who had this problem on 2 inch ABS and I thank you for this invaluable video. If your Reed reaming cutter would have shown up on time, I am confident it would have been the winner on your 4 inch competition. I ended up buying the Reed Clean Ream Extreme Plastic Pipe Fitting Reamer for my 2 inch ABS problem. This tool cut 2 inch like butter, leaving a perfectly smooth and tight fit on the existing flange. On 2 inch ABS I could use my 18v drill one-handed with the Reed Clean Ream Extreme.

I should mention that using the cement and fire method took me three times to get the pipe out but it came out and left the surface very smooth. I did also get the benefit of almost setting my son's beard on fire since he was holding the fitting while I set it on fire the FIRST time. He would not hold it for the last two tries out of fear. My wife thought we were both nuts but it worked. I now have a heat gun and a torch. Great video guys.

This channel is so wholesome. Just 2 guys, getting the job DONE. I love it!

This video saved me a MASSIVE headache. I'm so glad I watched it as it provided a different perspective for my problem. I had a concrete pad poured for a garage and I asked the concrete guys to put some PVC in so that I could run some things in later (wires, cat6, etc.). I also had insulation around the pad for radiant heat (sides and bottom). Well, when they put the PVC in they simply set the PVC pipe (about 2') on top of the insulation, therefore when they poured the concrete, I was left with a fully encased pipe that it is impossible to put a fitting on (BECAUSE IT'S ENCASED IN CONCRETE!). I thought I was screwed but then remembered this video! I went out with my heat gun and was able to pry the entire pipe out of the hole. In my case, I didn't need to save an outer pipe, because my outer pipe was concrete :D This allowed me to put a new pipe in that extended beyond the pad (under the pad) that I could then attach a fitting to. THANKS GUYS!

This video is one the most valuable you guys have ever produced!! For the second time I removed a broken piece of pipe from a fitting using heat and a pair of needle nose pliers. The first was for a shower drain and the second was a cracked fitting a foot underground that would have taken me hours to repair if this technique had not worked… Lots of digging! Thanks so much and keep on producing this great content for real problems that DIYERs like myself face everyday. Great work!

This is why I watch your channel diligently. You guys put on not only a show but a productive way of doing things right! Keep on doing what you do,and thank you very much for showing the world a good father and son teamwork and relationship 😎

One thing to consider on the flame methods. Pvc gives of some pretty poisonous fumes when lit on fire so use caution. I've used both the heat gun and flame. I like the heat gun alot better.

I am a new apprentice to plumbing and we had this problem the other day and my lead tried the sawing the inner pipe in several spots and chipping out and broke the hub. Thanks to you guys I now have a heat gun on my truck and will do what you taught me! Thank you for taking the time to make such a helpful video! 👍

Great job guys. A tip that I learned sort of by accident with regard to the hole saw. When I was doing custom doors and door hardware, I had a situation arise where I needed to convert a 1 1/2 inch deadbolt to a 2 1/8 inch one. I discovered that my 1 1/2" hole saw conveniently screws down to the mandrel with the 2 1/8" already mounted. Since they were the same height while loose, the smaller one protrudes enough when attached this way to work as a pilot bit. Saved me from having to make a plug to fit the 1/4" bit in. Works on some mandrels, but not on some of the others. Works great if you have to oversize a knockout on an electrical box too. It works so well, it sort of makes me feel like the manufacturer meant it to work this way. Anyway, it might work for this pipe work instead of the block you guys used, maybe not as it may create even more friction and thus heat.

Great idea and a lot of fun to watch. I would love to see more of these tests as you encounter more scenarios where viewers have different recommendations/suggestions.

Much appreciated seeing all these methods. Turns out the heat gun is best option without flame. Without a doubt your vid was so much fun to watch. 26 minutes well spent. Not only that but the time you and your son spend together learning these things from scratch is inspiring. Keep up the good works guys!

I just wanted to thank you for this. I watched this way back when it came out. Recently i found that one of my toilets flange was cracked and needed to be replaced. I didn't pull this up but i remembered heat/fire removed it pretty easily. I used a plumbing torch I had and vented the fumes best I could. With pliers the thing came out with the twist/roll method so easy. Thanks so much. Saved me so much time.

Thanks guys! I just used the same heat to remove a 2" pvc pipe from a shower p-trap. I'm in the middle of doing my first shower renovation; your videos have been tremendously helpful throughout the entire process.

It's obvious you guys had a ton of fun with your science project! What a great way to spend a day (or two). I'm glad you're getting so much love on this vid!

I like how you guys continue to adapt and come up with new ways to keep us entertained while teaching us something new every time. Nice job boys!

You two are such likable people! Thanks for going through all this for our sakes!

Dude, that is the cleanest concrete finishing for a demo that I have EVER seen! Even cleaner than a real job for many! Clean work guys! :)

I did the heat gun and a slice with oscillating saw both after cutting the fitting off at the edge of the bell. It worked awesome. From now on I will leave some distance in between my fittings so I don’t have to do all that work to save one and a half inches. But with the heat gun in the chisel tapping on it, it came unglued. It literally saved me over $100 because I was going to have to cut out a bunch of stuff if that didn’t work. Thank you.

I love that you guys set up a whole PETR and ran experiments. This one was fun and informative, thanks stud pack!

Used the heat gun trick for the second time and actually showed it to a plumber I use and he was thrilled. Nice work !

I only just discovered your channel. Love the down-to-earth approach you take. Also love the interaction between father and son. As a Canadian (and this is really high praise) I see Mike Holmes here. Keep it up!

Thanks for going to all the trouble to set up this project. I enjoyed it throughly. Wish I knew about this years ago. Very Helpful.

Another great video guys. Now, I know exactly what's needed if I encounter either PVC, or ABS pipe hubs. No wasted time trying to figure out how to get the needed result. Thank you!

science in action. excellent. made me wonder about the difference in melting point. ABS is about 392°F. PVC is about 500°F. you needed to run the ABS test cooler. maybe put a wet rag around the outside. ABS softening point is about 220°F so maybe the hairdryer or light bulb could work.

best info out there for removing glued joints. This is the only place I could find that gave actual examples. Great work guys.

Stud Pack. This is why you are the guys to watch. This is exactly the question that many of us out here have. What is the best method? I had this issue a while back and needed to reuse a fitting that I could not find locally and I had already glued in a piece of pipe. I ended up finding a video that used the cement and set the fitting inside on fire and was able to pull it out and reuse the other fitting BUT I had heard a heat gun is better but I don't have one. Man, I don't envy this testing because I worked on my single fitting for quite a while before I went to KZfaq and fire to get it out. It was some hot work and my son said he picked up, at least, 4 new curse words from me that day. Great, great video. I have not watched fully yet so my bets are on the heat gun method.

This video made my day! -Stoked that you ordered the Reed version-it’s a night and day difference over the hub saver. Again, I waited all summer to finally get mine. Also happy to see the flame method did the trick!

Thanks for taking the time to do this! Ran into a similar problem earlier this year, had to do my own research! Used heat gun.... I was able to get one fitting out but the second one I melted the hub as well haha... Ended up having to go back further and cut it all out. Almost had it tho!

Schmear! That was me! It takes days to make the paste. Make some and keep it in a glass jar for the future.

Enjoy the dual commentary. Very fun to watch. Helps me in the pool industry. Thanks

Great video and demonstration Paul and Jordan. I didn't think the heat gun would be the best alternative, but you proved me wrong. You guys remain safe out there and keep the great video's coming! :)

Wow! Loved the demonstration, I've used the hole saw method before and now I'll be using my heat gun, I have the Harbor Freight version. Got to say I absolutely love the father son connection in the production, you two work great together. I'm in California and my son is in Washington and I with we could work together as we're both tradesmen but it just isn't gonna happen. Thumbs up guys!

"This has turned into a hole saw recovery" ROFL! 🤣🤣

Those custom shelves in the background. Still looking good guys. 💪😎 320lbs is what many guys self-report as their Peter's weight.

There is something satisfying watching the pipe roll off slowly on the pliers.

I wanted to let you guys know, as a contractor myself: i think y'all are the best show on KZfaq & it puts a smile on my face when your videos pop up in my feed

I like all your vids, but this is one of you best gents. Great experiment. Nice to see you listening to all the comments. Love to see more like this in the future. Andrew

For anyone watching this who's interested in using a hub saver... I used to apply heavy pressure when I first started using them too... set the drill for slow but steady, and let the bit do the work... light steady pressure and it will chew right through fast smooth & easy without ruining the pipe socket. He gets a pass b/c experience with something comes with time unless you're lucky enough to find the comments where folks save you from having to learn the hard way. 💪

I love how you guys bring us through your thoughts and attempts while staying humble. Subscribed!

I’m with Mike Marino on this one...this was a well thought out experiment , covering most options. KUDOS to you guys!! Really good practical info on what works and what works best. Would love to see that tool you ordered in operation (if you ever get it in). Thanks for the video guys! Love your work! 👍👍👍

I just watched the "Moving a toilet 5 inches" video and I SO needed this video! My toilet drain pipe is a wye, at an angle, with tees right on both sides, so I just can't cut it off and replace. I cut the flange off, now I have to separate the pipes. I bought the socket saver and a heat gun. Gonna try the heat gun first.

Thank you for sharing your experience with everyone!

For a DIY, like me, this video is invaluable! I've done this different ways, yeah the hard ways, and now I'll do it the best way for the particular situation. I'm not sure if this is the best video on Stud Pack's channel (because I haven't seen them all) but likely this will be a top 5 for me!

You guys create the best unscripted and informative videos on KZfaq. You have great communication skills and stay on the subject. I value scripted videos too, because they too stay on the subject. We all have clicked on the videos on a specific subject and they spend more time talking what they had for breakfast, etc. than what the video was even about. Great Job!

Great idea. I read those comments, so cool you put them to the test!

You guys put a lot of time, effort and expense in this video, definitely appreciate you guys !!!! Thanks

You saved me hours and a lot of money. FYI, a kitchen creme brulee torch worked on a 3/4 inch pipe in my underground sprinkler pipe.

Great video guys! Way to pull out all the stops to make sure your viewers are well informed and entertained....... Who doesn't love fire? Incidentally I have that same heat gun and I use it all the time in electrical work and heating up parts to fit over hubs! It is an essential for your tool chest brother!

Just awesome, that will be in my back pocket, and I look forward to pulling that out and saving the day. Thank you Stud Pack!

You don't have to waste energy on explaining yourself to the haters. Love your channel!

this is awesome. Its really nice you looked at the comments and tried all the ideas. great job

Awesome job guys. Above and beyond on this one!

This was awesome Stud Pack!! Thanks for going through so much for this demonstration.

Truly excellent experiment guys. Thank you for making this, you've made us all a little bit smarter.

I really hope you do more videos like this. Something stuck and wont come out, show what tools and tips work to actually get things in a workable condition again.

GREAT vid STUDZ! This is something I’ve struggled with many times with a torch…but was too dumb to grab a heat gun. Well now I know. No more open flame You guys ROCK kudos to such a great team!

Thank you! Respect! You gave me inspiration and made all my doubts go away. In my case it was pre existing 2" abs cleanout half way in the slab,facing against the stud, thus failed inspection. I got a hole saw ready, but ended up using sawzall, a piece of broken hacksaw blade and a screw driver to chisel out pieces.

Science in action. Was not expecting some of the results you guys got. Really enjoyed this one Stud Pack! Thanks!

What is it about Louisiana? My dad was born and raised in Metairie and had the same sense of humor and devotion to quality and craftsmanship that Paul and Jason display in all their work. His favorite slogan (with a wry smile) was always , “You can do it right, or you can do it over… do you really want to do it twice“? He was an electrician for 47 years and learned all the other construction and finish trades by observation and asking lots of questions. He and I worked together (just like Paul and Jason) for several years in the late 70’s and early 80’s, so watching your videos is like stepping into a Time Machine and paying a visit to my much-loved and sorely-missed dad. (Crap! Now I’m tearing up and can’t see the keyboard…) Thanks for the wonderful videos guys.

Excellent video and love the attention to detail on ALL of your videos! You guys do great work…if you’re not going to do it right, don’t do it at all mentally. I’m a diy that loves to learn new techniques and tricks of the trades. The videos are great with a Dads Dad and enthusiastic son doing it right. Yes on PODcast! Continue the good work and see you on the next one!

Best video yet...I would like to see more videos in this format...keep going with other test methods that relate to situations that arise during remods

That was a video I needed. I do a lot of irrigation pipe in PVC and sometimes have to reuse a fitting on a Sunday night to get it working. Hope you are all ok after all those fumes from the heat as they can be really bad. The hole saw idea was my favorite.

Thanks for putting in the time and effort for this video, VERY well done!!

Good info. I work for a rental company in West Virginia. Most of their properties are 100+ year-old "two week miracles" thrown together in a hurry so a miner and his family had somewhere to live, and then added to or modified (by hacks) over the last century. This means that finding something square, level, or (like a toilet) in the right place for human use is a rarity. We're always under a time-crunch, the info provided by this video is very valuable.

Great video, a must view. I don't believe there is another video like this out there anywhere. Thanks you guys.

Hahahaha 320 pound PETR, you got me crackin up on that one guys. Excellent demo and you spared no expense for us. Two thumbs up from me.

“Let’s find out”. Project Farm flashback. “Our viewers say we should use flame. We’re gonna test that!”

Excellent hub saving seminar !!!

Well that solves the debate on saving your hub! I have used the hub saver for years, never an issue. I think it would have worked better for you if you didn't force it through and built up the heat. I get smaller shavings and a smoother surface finish. I have not used the heat gun method yet and will give it a shot. Thanks for your time and effort to solve the mysteries of pipe removal...

Great video!! Thanks for showing us what really works!

We have a winner!! #1 Hole saw! #2 heat gun for sure on the pvc first attempt out with that holesaw seems the way forward....nice work on the test rig!!!

Thanks for the help boys. Used your advice today with a heat gun. You guys rock! Rich in Florida

Good video guys. I found this one the most educational yet. Cutting it all off and using a no-hub connector is too expensive...Nice job!

Nice job fellas. Quality is right up there with Project Farm. Very helpful info. We all appreciate it!

Killing it guys! EXCELLENT test!

Best pipe extraction methods compsrison video ever... 👍🏼👍🏼

Cool video guys.. good to see father and son hanging out. Learned allot too. I will use the heat gun lol.

Great video! Learned a lot! Appreciate both of you for taking the time to do the video!

Great video! I have had a heat gun for years! Used it early on building model airplanes. It's real handy if you need to break free red Loctite threads.

I had a similar problem with my pool plumbing in Houston after some freezing temperatures cracked some 1.5” pipes. I bought the Rheen fitting saver. IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. Turns out, when you have about 40psi going through a 1.5” PVC fitting, those ridges left by the mechanical tools can in fact create leaks. The fire/thermal method was by far the best. I wished I’d saved my money

You guys are awesome! As an electrician I've seen a lot of things over the years. You're the first master of all trades, jack of none that I've witnessed.

wish the people i worked with were as thorough as you guys are on the job

Fellas this was extremely helpful - the heat gin worked liked a charm for me - thank you and keep them videos coming

I was attempting to add a clean out plug to my drain pipe under the house and the old pipe cracked and broke off right at the connection to the sewer. You saved me from my dilemma! I used a heat gun and long nose pliers and what seemed impossible was actually easy! Thank you for this post!

Once I bought a heatgun, I started trying it on all kinds of stuff. It's been a life saver, also one of the few tools I think your safe buying from harbor freight. That's where I got mine and it has lasted for years and I use it a lot.

By far this is one of the best videos that I've seen

I've used the Reed tool that you were waiting for. It's my opinion, but that tool is the best option. Great video. I really enjoy all of your work, but I'm glad to watch whenever a new procedure or method is tried. Sometimes it's rewarding to take a step back and try something new.

You two are awesome. It's really cool to see father and son having such a great working relationship. Quality programming, guys! 🤜💥🤛

Fantastic job!! This is exactly how jobs go at times. Keep trying different methods until the job gets done!!

Thanks for this. Had to pull pipe from a hub today and thought of this video, and thought immediately to use a heat gun. 10 minutes later was done!

Nice tests and excellent preparation! Looks like in future videos viewers from now may see heatgun method more often! 👍

Thank you guys for this video! I wish I saw it when I remodeled our bathroom! I wasted so much time using a sawzall and chisel. For my daughter’s bathroom, I used the heat gun. It was out in less than 10 minutes. Our home was built in the 80s and all of our bathrooms had a super thick mortar bed under the tile. I removed it and installed Durock which left the toilet flange about 1/2” too high. The heat gun was much easier! Cheers fellas - beers on me next time.

Great video! I heard that you could remove glued pvc with a heat gun, & now you’ve proved it👍

Love you guys, very funny, personable, and knowledgeable. Have to say the numbers you quoted for the heat gun are probably wattages, not temperatures. Also. while most people won't encounter it, the Hub Saver is for Schedule 40 and won't work on 80 or others.

You guys are always fun to watch...i learn some weird, "in the field" tips and tricks from y'all

Awesome 👍. Thanks for your time and effort. Now I know how and what to do.

Yup, heat gun is the way to go! Love seeing you test out all the other recommendations. Always wanted to see the pvc primer fire bomb! Thanks again for great information and entertainment!

Learn something new today. I liked the heat gun.Thanks SP

Not that I'm a subject matter expert, but that concrete at the bottom is impervious to heat. I would definitely put a wet rag in the pipe to protect the elbow. Awesome video.