DCS: F-4E - Episode IV - RADAR Pt. 1

DCS: F-4E - Episode IV - RADAR Pt. 1 - Basics and Theory

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Ай бұрын

Welcome to the first part focusing on the mighty APQ-120 radar in the F-4E Phantom II!
Developing the technology behind our recreation of the radar has been a massive, multi-year endeavour - with a major focus on physical accuracy, hyper-realism and truly recreating the physical phenomena and effects driving an older Pulse-radar in all types of situations. Enjoy this deep-dive, and stay tuned for Part II which will focus on specific Employment, Radar guided weaponry and more!
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@alexolcese Ай бұрын

“The radar ‘may seem daunting and laborious’…” may be the biggest understatement ever. Absolutely amazing.

@Enigma89 Ай бұрын

Looking forward to interpreting the radar smudges 🙏

@RoamingAdhocrat Ай бұрын

🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔

@RoamingAdhocrat Ай бұрын

🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔🐸🔔

@CROW1-2 Ай бұрын

Cant wait to fly this thing on your server!

@RoamingAdhocrat Ай бұрын

can't wait to post a gif of a frog in a yellow conical hat endlessly ringing a bell

@jacobcarpenter5309 Ай бұрын

Was waiting to see ur comment lol hey enigma are you going to be adding this to a server its gonna be mig killin time

@greghorine4995 Ай бұрын

I worked on the AN/APQ-120 in the first half of my Air Force career. You guys have done an amazing job of recreating the look and feel! One thing I can comment on is that the pilot's display should be set back further inside of the HUD, since the AN/ASG-26 LCOSS mounted to the front of the radar display group. It was about a foot back inside, since the gunsight (LCOSS) contained a precision mirror, the reticle light and several servos and servo-potentiometers for moving the mirror, positioning the reticle in the combining glass. Overall, an amazing job, Heatblur!!!

@104thironmike4 Ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind comment, and thank you for your service! This is indeed known to us, however unfortunately not possible to implement in DCS, or a trade-off, if you will, as it would appear way too deep inside in game and inhibit proper use, especially on 2D monitors. To prevent this we unfortunately had to move it closer in. Thank you for your kind understanding.

@THESECONDCOMINGOFCAGGTRO Ай бұрын

Damn. Wish I had your smartness

@Destarn Ай бұрын

@@104thironmike4 Perhaps have it as a specials option if possible? I'm sure there will be some people who will want that in VR

@JNelson_ Ай бұрын

@@Destarn it's more relating to the inability to do the lens effect that would give it similar zoom to what we have by placing it nearer

@koocoocroc1235 Ай бұрын

HeatBlur, Listen to this man!

@kzrlgo Ай бұрын

Sales pitch as I heard it: The AN/APQ-120 radar in the F-4E is a masterpiece of frustration, a technological relic from the era of disco and bell-bottoms. Picture this: you're cruising at Mach 2, ready to take on the enemy, only to find out your radar can barely distinguish between a pigeon and a MiG-21. Its range is about as reliable as a fortune teller's crystal ball, leaving pilots guessing whether that blip on the screen is a bogey or just cosmic interference. Accuracy? Forget about it. Trying to lock onto a target with the AN/APQ-120 is like trying to thread a needle while riding a unicycle on a tightrope during an earthquake. You might as well close your eyes and hope for the best. But fear not, brave pilots! The AN/APQ-120 comes with a built-in game of Russian roulette, where every press of the button is a gamble between actually detecting an enemy aircraft or just lighting up the sky like a Fourth of July fireworks display. Can’t wait! 😂

@mihai2526 Ай бұрын

as a ex ship radar operator, gonna have to brush up on my radar theory. never thought id need it again.

@croskerk Ай бұрын

Man seems like you'll have fun with this haha

@irishviking167 21 күн бұрын

good ol x band and s band huh mate

@KernitTheFont Күн бұрын

Any good radar theory reading for us mere mortals out there? 😅

@JonathanLundkvist Ай бұрын

After this weekend, this is what we deserve; some video about a system I will never learn fully but just enough to use in a clinch.

@generic_luke Ай бұрын

What on earth do you expect HB to do about a Razbam issue? Edit: I misunderstood. My bad!

@JonathanLundkvist Ай бұрын

@@generic_luke I have never stated they will or should do anything, my point was that it was nice to get a break from it.

@generic_luke Ай бұрын

@@JonathanLundkvist Ah, that's my bad. So used to peoples negativity that I misunderstood. Apologies!

@budderball29 Ай бұрын

@@generic_luke lol I feel ya there

@SA80TAGE Ай бұрын

@@generic_luke aye the internet does that to ya lol.

@Osean_Kitty Ай бұрын

This HAS to be the most detailed recreation of any radar in any flight game/simulator out there.

@CaptPickguard Ай бұрын

F-15E and Mirage 2000 DCS modules do the same things. It's great that Heatblur has opted to go this route too. :)

@southernbear736 Ай бұрын

@@CaptPickguard they literally don't though unfortunately....I can't believe I'm saying this but Gaijin has literally made a more realistic radar then most DCS modules, this F-4 should be the gold standard for what DCS SHOULD be.

@tropicthndr Ай бұрын

Uh no. Search “DCS players after the F-4E Phantom is released” much better picture of this thing.

@BobbyDerBraumeister Ай бұрын

⁠@@southernbear736nope gaijin do not have more realistic radars. The radars in DCS are way more complicated and simulated way better…

@sandwich5344 Ай бұрын

@@tropicthndr i love that video. I baited all the MFD fly by bogus bitches out there. And to no-ones suprise they actually fell for it.

@alexanderherrmann743 Ай бұрын

Can't wait for the A-6 with the TRAM radar!

@lotnylotny671 Ай бұрын

The King is dead (F-14), long live the King (F4). You are in a class of your own. Unrivaled. I found out that you are from Poland. Great news that a group from my country creates such amazing things.

@104thironmike4 Ай бұрын

Our team is international, but we are indeed based in Poland, and many of our developers are from Poland. 🙂

@davidmuir6849 Ай бұрын

Fantastic . I worked on the f4 at Raf leuchars in Scotland in the 80s you’ve done a superb job and I’m really looking forward to taking this bird for a jolly . Regards Dave Ex raf Caa licensed aircraft engineer Private pilot

@animatek6171 Ай бұрын

You can feel the pride in his voice for such an achievement.

@wannaloginnow Ай бұрын

I hope Heatblur is giving me a competent Jester as RIO, because I’m sure I’m too dumb to work the radar properly! 😄

@aitor47 Ай бұрын

You're not alone, mate. I just have not clue about any of what they said on the video 😂

@arguy3297 Ай бұрын

@@aitor47me- oh fuck and Im supposed to know what to tell jester to do?

@iwyrilja Ай бұрын

I made a promise that I would be RIO 99% of the time to convince my friend to buy it

@getsideways7257 Ай бұрын

@@iwyrilja Not a very hard promise to keep, I'd say. Doubt it's all that interesting in the front seat anyway...

@DessertUnicorn Ай бұрын

Looks amazing!!!! i can see why it’s taking so long now… jester being able to constantly adjust the radar by himself must be insane to program

@Spooky_32 Ай бұрын

You guys do incredible work. I never thought I'd see the day where I get to fly an F-4 in a simulator to such a high level of fidelity and attention to detail. We are truly blssed ❤

@Owenwolfx4876 Ай бұрын

Wake up honey, new DCS F-4E video just dropped!

@Jwalker21NC Ай бұрын

haha this was me! not even lying lmao 😅 she loves me what can i say 🤷‍♂

@tropicthndr Ай бұрын

Show her the Joe Pesci version, makes a ton more sense. “DCS players after the F-4E phantom is released”

@xSP3CTREx Ай бұрын

I may never understand it all, but I appreciate how much work went into this. Great job!

@tenToesUp747 11 сағат бұрын

I case no one has said it, THANK YOU!!! Money well spent. GREAT LAUNCH!!!

@loneirregular1280 Ай бұрын

Heatblur yet again exceeding expectations. This is what they mean by "study level" sim. Well done 👏 and keep up the great work!

@Legalizeasbestos Ай бұрын

Its a game and always will be a video game. Its only a sim if you have an actual simulator cockpit to sit in. Otherwise you aint simulating nothing, just playing vidya. Thats said really impressive radar.

@christerjackson9589 Ай бұрын

@@Legalizeasbestos It's not a sim unless you're sitting inside a real F-4E and playing while in the air. Jez.

@Legalizeasbestos Ай бұрын

@@christerjackson9589 it’s just misleading cause it’s not a simulator and I don’t know why the community is so focused on calling it a sim. The Air Force doing this with Minecraft graphics a sim because they’re actually simulating something, DCS beautiful but it’s just a video game. You gotta have all the other stuff before it becomes a sim. My point is I don’t know why it’s ever been called a sim or why anyone wants to call it a sim.

@christerjackson9589 Ай бұрын

@@Legalizeasbestos Why do you care so much about what people call a 'game'?

@lars9267 Ай бұрын

@@Legalizeasbestos So DCS is a sim if you have a cockpit to sit in otherwise it´s a game? The term sim is just used for software trying to replicate the real thing but there is no exact definition of it. When it is marketed as a sim that say something about what you can expect from the product. In the end games or sims are just software anyways.

@cowansimstudio Ай бұрын

Well done HB! Continuing to prove every module you produce is worth its weight in gold

@jaromirandel543 Ай бұрын

That level of detail. I love it.

@thetristians Ай бұрын

Outstanding!! Thank to the whole HB team. What a time to be alive as a flight sim nerd ❤

@wilbuzllf5057 Ай бұрын

Holy smoke! I expected high detail and realism but listening to your description and recognizing pretty much everything from my own radar training many years ago I can't help be even more impressed than I thought I would, amazing! Keep up the good work HB!

@jamesyoungquist6923 Ай бұрын

I've never been more excited for a module release! Heatblur, you guys rock

@aaronfriedlander4184 Ай бұрын

This is so interesting to learn how these systems work! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

@RIPTIDE66 Ай бұрын

Thanks for all the hard work you Heatblur, we're very excited!!

@RobertBrusOfficial Ай бұрын

I was a radar operator in the RAN for a long time and can't wait to get my hands on this. It looks like a learning curve but once you've got it, man it can be fun! Well done on recreating this in such detail. Super excited for the launch.

@DartzIRL Ай бұрын

This is so much easier to watch than 90% of youtube videos.

@kornykidd0 Ай бұрын

The model and cockpit detail is incredible. Can’t believe how good it looks😮

@evstachip89 Ай бұрын

Holy crap. I feel dumb after watching this lol. Can't wait to try and learn the radar.

@brandong2040 Ай бұрын

This looks great! Looking forward to the added complexity.

@RockOarSomething 14 күн бұрын

That's a lot of information to learn, hopefully Jester took notes.

@Hypersteff89 Ай бұрын

Absolutely incredible. Phantastic job!

@Michelsen77 Ай бұрын

I'm super hyped! Thanks guys for everything❤

@keithbuddrige5064 Ай бұрын

Love this! Looks very similar to reading the Viggen's radar. Can't wait.

@PredatorFly Ай бұрын

Absolutely exceptional!

@colinkelly990 Ай бұрын

Awesome!! And the timing of the video was good, a good pick me up from the other drama!

@jumper684 Ай бұрын

damn everything in this video looks really well implemented and simulated; Jester also has very nice callouts. Excited to fly this bird

@Phantom24425 Ай бұрын

We're getting closer

@freedom1544 Ай бұрын

All of this is incredibly impressive, though I must say, one that surprised me early on is that you NAILED the look and texture of the paint on the black nose cone at 0:53! Just by looking at it, I knew exactly how the paint would feel to the touch. It's the little stuff! Well done!

@moiluck Ай бұрын

The F4 will be a challenging aircraft. Tons of hours of fun ahead. Awesome work guys. Keep it up!

@asphelite Ай бұрын

Looks incredible! Cant wait to get my hands on it as well!

@user-ml9mn5wh2f Ай бұрын

This presentation is brilliant.

@user-uv1fp9ho1j 5 күн бұрын

I sent this to my dad. He was nav in RF-4C in Vietnam and a techie. He has the highest number of hours flying night recce missions of the entire war. He would snap up night missions from crews that typically didn't want them. He felt safer at night flying down in the valleys of the route packs. Used the radar in modes that were available but which the Air Force never trained, and other crews never used. Something about circular polarization, for instance, allowed him to see through the rain better. But only he used it. The RF had TFR so not the same as the E, but he came out of ADC (F-89D/H/J, F-101B) and was able to use the RF's radar for air-to-air to some degree. He retired O-6 after flying F-111A at Takhli and F's at Mt. Home. He loved his job; a true Scope Wizard. Great work on the model! Even I could see the scope follows the terrain realistically.

@jg3nius135 49 минут бұрын

If you can, you should get him to have a go on the F-4 now it is released

@GabryelHdPerformance Ай бұрын

amazing hardcore stuff! Incredible work 🤘🤘🤘

@DannyP159 Ай бұрын

Well this just looks truly amazing. Take a bow HB

@Bergie_78 Ай бұрын

Unbelievable! I probably won’t fly this plane but I’ll buy it to support the devs’ incredible work! Well done 👏🏻

@A2Moonclaw Ай бұрын

Im not interested in the phantom (I’m a tomcat lover) but I am always excited to see more updates on the phantom. As I say on each of these videos, this is truly a work of art and I love seeing the work put into this. Gold standard Heatblur, you should be proud!!

@igorkratka Ай бұрын

Words can`t describe how exciting this is.

@RFXCasey Ай бұрын

Haven't been studying up enough on this awesome looking module yet but I'm really looking forward to it.

@FlintMcgee Ай бұрын

Amazing work

@Mightymoose02 Ай бұрын

Looks awesome. Glad Jester will be helping me out.

@ga9633 Ай бұрын

On the radar set control (first seen at 2:49), the correct setting for the TRACK switch should say AOJ OUT, not AOU OUT. Worked on the APQ120 for 11 years--

@denneledoe873 Ай бұрын

Could you think of a reason HB made this mistake? Or inversely; could you think of a reason HB thought it should say AOU OUT based on different documents?

@ga9633 Ай бұрын

@@denneledoe873 Maybe the radar set control they were photographing had a scratch where the J looked like a U? But it is AOJ, for Angle On Jam, so AOU makes no sense

@denneledoe873 Ай бұрын

@@ga9633 Heatblur released the F-4 manual ahead of release, and in the manual it's indeed referenced as AOJ OUT, not AOU OUT. So yeah it's a texture error. great catch! but then again, when you work with something for 11 years you get an eye for these things ;)

@rocketpunchgo1 Ай бұрын

I asked for 30 minute videos.... and I received! Thanks Heatblur!

@soroushahmadivala2405 Ай бұрын

WELL DONE HB!

@imellor711 Ай бұрын

Wow, looking, I'm looking forward to playing with the radar. The HB F4 Phantom is really looking great in this nicely explained video.

@adrew31043 Ай бұрын

Ive got my tshirt in hand, now we just need the module! These teaser videos make me want it so much more.

@DOGosaurus_rex Ай бұрын

holy cow I am actually scared of how hard this is going end up being 😱😨

@colinterry7261 Ай бұрын

Yeah buddy! This was awesome!

@rmp5s Ай бұрын

Absolutely incredible. Can't wait to start interpreting smudges and smears!

@guilhermebechtinger Ай бұрын

Amazing work, thanks!

@ivaniuk123 Ай бұрын

This is incredibly impressive.

@hanibelsoun9370 Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for sharing this video. Looking forward to get the F-4E!!!!

@chaosbuilder1531 Ай бұрын

I so can't wait for release!

@samsmith6791 Ай бұрын

Looks like this module will both test and push my radar knowledge. Can't wait to study the manual!

@realQuiGon Ай бұрын

Why wait? The manual has already been released.

@SA80TAGE Ай бұрын

"Can't wait to study the manual!" - pretty sure this is only game anyone has ever said that sentence about lol.

@RailgunCyclops Ай бұрын

can't wait for this amazing module to be released! got a friend that wants to be a dedicated WSO, so hope he can keep up with all the radar intricacies

@nathanwells4809 Ай бұрын

A great job for Jester

@dunbar555 Ай бұрын

very well done video. cant wait though

@Coolhand101e Ай бұрын

Well... this is going to be a fun learning experience!! 😎👍

@fightertales Ай бұрын

This is why the WSO/RIO was necessary. It's a full time job.

@0FMCDCS 14 күн бұрын

We got a lot to learn. This back seat may be the most challenging I’ll learn

@March-man Ай бұрын

I left the cinema to go to the bathroom, to watched this. ⚡💪

@tijmenvanhierden6870 Ай бұрын

What movie was playing?

@March-man Ай бұрын

@@tijmenvanhierden6870 Dune (I haven't had time to look at it yet. But the Phantom is more important. 😆

@coldclaws2479 Ай бұрын

I had the option of watching dune with my family but we decided to watch kung fu panda 4 instead

@VenomCinematic Ай бұрын

@@March-man damn bro lmao

@myyoutube_6516 Ай бұрын

Cool, looks like jester will have fun using that.

@puu808 Ай бұрын

And this is only part one, well done HB! Looking forward to the next preview videos!

@htc5699 Ай бұрын

May seem daunting ? I AM FRICKIN SCARED ALREADY !

@hmleao Ай бұрын

da fuq, almost didn't recognize graywolf's voide xD. very cool.

@Phantom24425 Ай бұрын

He does all of the narrating for the videos

@Elysian_Angel_ Ай бұрын

HeatBlur: above and beyond! 🥳

@thomasfreimuller4470 Ай бұрын

Very interesting and nice made video 👏🏻👏🏻

@jayphi4095 Ай бұрын

Very good explanations, knowledge and simulation of the APQ-120 radar with its CW illuminator. I made extensive jamming live trials against the F4-E. Hopefully the jamming is badly implemented on DCS because the APQ-120 as a pulse radar is very sensitive both to noise jamming and to angle amplitude modulation swept jamming due to its CONSCAN and not Monopulse angle measurement. CW illu is also sensitive to Doppler coherent noise and VGPO…..Don’t forget warning people being locked on by this radar never try to make defensive 90 degrees maneuvers as used in DCS against all radars even pulse ones like the SA-8……I hope your simulated lock on would stay good and even better in this case….

@jawjaboy58 Ай бұрын

Now how in the WORLD do y'all expect an old man to learn all THIS?? Holy cow, maybe I'll just let the guy in back worry about it...This stuff is just crazy, how y'all design and implement these systems is truly mind-blowing.FORGET the rest of my modules, I'll be spending months and months with this beast!!

@aaronwhite1786 Ай бұрын

Respect for all of this detail. It's got to make bug finding a nightmare, but damn does it make it look like a blast to do what can seem so simple in the newer planes.

@stepstv4466 Ай бұрын

Now thats a video good job

@VIKING31_ Ай бұрын

In the current DCS world of darkness…. This is the light I think we all needed! Thanks HB! We’re glad to have you with us! 🙏🏼🤘🏼

@robihobby9490 Ай бұрын

😄👍 I'm getting more and more excited.

@xXE4GLEyEXx Ай бұрын

Hearblur, blazing the trail on how modules should be in DCS. Looking forward to flying the F4 ^^

@Kifter1983 Ай бұрын

Amazing stuff 👍👍👍

@Viper81 Ай бұрын

This is good. This is really good. I was curious how you guys would be simulating that good old craptastic APQ-120…you really nailed it! This is pure awesomeness. 🤙

@Cessna152ful Ай бұрын

Super looking forward to this guys!!

@nrosko Ай бұрын

Amazing thank you.

@mastergshotgun Ай бұрын

Fantastic!

@nero995 Ай бұрын

I love heatblur bro

@TheGobin Ай бұрын

Video was a banger holy

@Triplication Ай бұрын

I cant wait to get my hands on this monster.

@Andrew-13579 Ай бұрын

This is awesome!! With all this fascinating radar simulation authenticity, I hope one day we’ll be able to have an F-105D Thud…as well as an F-101B Voodoo and F-106A Delta Dart, in DCS. …and just maybe the F-102A Delta Dagger, F-89J Scorpion and F-86L Sabre Dog, too.

@ninegravity2275 Ай бұрын

It was worth the waiting！

@agniteyt Ай бұрын

Me: DAMN THIS IS SO AWESOME Brain: *please... stop this madness...*

@DanScott213 Ай бұрын

lol at the look on the face of that radar operator dealing with the challenges of unfiltered radar images

@AdmiralQuality Ай бұрын

Definitely the best pilot animation we've seen yet. But will it move chunky in multi-player like all animations do?

@_Am0N_ Ай бұрын

@@AdmiralQuality i guess the whole phantom will be a chunky mess for my pc. Sat yesterday in the f14 with stuttering every 3-5 seconds. I can play every other module on high graphics and on full servers without any big trouble but if the F14 is even lagging that hard on everything low and they already said the phantom will have worse performance than the F14.. makes me wanna cry😢😂

@AdmiralQuality Ай бұрын

@@_Am0N_ I'm worried about how it will perform as well. But the issue I'm describing isn't due to local machine performance, it's a multiplayer thing. For some reason DCS doesn't smooth motion of animated objects (like pilots, gear and flaps) for aircraft in multiplayer. I get that they don't want to send 120 updates a second for their positions, but still that's no excuse not to smooth the motion. And it will make these rather excellent animations look very low frame rate in MP (unless HB have found a way around it).

@_Am0N_ Ай бұрын

@@AdmiralQuality yea i know. It just triggered my dcs performance ptsd😂

@Zabuzard Ай бұрын

@@AdmiralQuality (HB dev) This is actually up to the coders and we did it "proper". The animations are smooth in multicrew. They are stuttering if you sync the current pos. Instead, you have to sync the target position and compute the actual movement to that target position locally on each machine. That way animations play smooth :)