American Indigenous are Animists.

@@danyellerobinson5940 Yep

A "pagan" is generally anyone who is non-Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) and/or polytheistic in their religious/spiritual/cultural path, like Hindus and Buddhists, just to name the most well known. "Heathen" is specifically referring to those practitioners of pre-Christian Germanic Tribal religion, be it historical reconstructionism or any of the New Age groups (Asatru, AFA, Troth, TAC, etc.). And of course, both "pagan" AND "heathen" (lower-case H) have evolved over centuries to be derogatory terms used as a means to remind/reinforce the supposed inferiority of anyone who is not a follower of "the BIG three" Abrahamic faiths mentioned above. Hope this helps to clear things up for everyone reading this. Added for Kristin: there is a common connection between most ancient tribal religions, and that is ancestor veneration. It's what connects us to our path. I have much respect for the Natives here in the USA for their pow wows and cultural education, as they are connected to their ancestors. I have always appreciated Native American culture from boyhood on (the old "cowboys and Indians" game), and while serving in the US Air Force, I was the committee president/member for our local National American Indian Heritage Month each year in VA and ID. I have zero Native blood, but 100% Native respect.

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger sending you lots of love. Thank you xx

Respect to our indigenous natives in North America , May you thrive and bless us With your wisdom and teachings . Your rich culture is our savior.

We can shorten that to 'Piner'. Voila, new word.

@@behemitch8287 that's what i was about to say lmao

"P.I.N.E.R. if you will"

@@behemitch8287 Sure, why not?

Love this! 🤣🥰

It is a common saying and has been for many years.

Croeso! Dw i mwynhau dysgu Cymraeg.

Mos Maiorvm 😉

I like it. It sounds pleasant.

Among some Native American Tribes that's the way things have always been described.

Man of the cloth ? You would have to of made an appearance in church for this to have to be true so you are a heathen for lying is what has made you honest for sharing.

And then everyone clapped

A man of the cloth usually means that he's a Catholic

@@epic6434 read my update and decide for yourself

@@epic6434 a person needs not ever step foot inside a church to know that a "man of the cloth" is a phrase that refers to a Christian, whatever flavour they may be.

A "pagan" is generally anyone who is non-Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) and/or polytheistic in their religious/spiritual/cultural path, like Hindus and Buddhists, just to name the most well known. "Heathen" is specifically referring to those practitioners of pre-Christian Germanic/Norse Tribal religion, be it historical reconstructionism or any of the New Age groups (Asatru, AFA, Troth, TAC, etc.). And of course, both "pagan" AND "heathen" (lower-case H) have evolved over centuries to be derogatory terms used as a means to remind/reinforce the supposed inferiority of anyone who is not a follower of "the BIG three" Abrahamic faiths mentioned above. Hope this helps to clear things up for everyone reading this.

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger I don't think Buddhists or Hindus consider themselves Pagan. After all, their purpose is to transcend the world and their physical selves in order to graduate to another dimension and ultimately become a God.

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger you didn't comprehend this video, did you?

@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger I think you got that backwards my friend

@@wolfmauler I'm saying to a Christian, if you are not a believer in their Abrahamic faiths, you are considered a pagan (and sometimes a heathen with a little "h"). I don't call people pagan. I could care less. All I care about is my Heathen (big "H") path of the Germanic and Nordic tribes.

The Abrahamic Faiths are *NOT* truly monotheistic. The Commandments of Moses do not say "There are no other gods," but rather "Thou shalt have no other gods *before me."*

​@@frankmueller2781 Sure, that's the original Jewish. Tell that the Christians and Muslims. ;) Severity increased as Abrahamism evolved. Islam is the natural consequence of supernatural Abrahamism just as marxism, communism, socialism, neo-marxism, pomo, pc-woke, hbd-denial, crtical race theory, anti-whiteness, are the natural consequence of pseudoscientific abrahamism. Both the first montheistic religions of the zoroastrians and the fully monotheistic religions of the abrahamic old world and finally the new world are the same: They are rebellions against evolution by the indo european peoples, and their success at discovery, adaptation to, and application of the laws of the universe, especially the 'gentle' genetic pacification and domestication of less evolved peoples by continuing natural selection using market meritocracy in every aspect of life. Sophistry, philosophy, and theology ask us to believe a thing is what it claims, rather than the results of its claims. A thing is not what it claims any more than an individual behaves as he claims, or even believes as he claims. A thing is what it does.

@@TheNaturalLawInstitute “the consequence of supernatural Abrahamism just as Marxism, communism, socialism...” Yes! I’ve been thinking about that for a while now. It seems so obvious, yet so close under our noses that many wouldn’t see. I didn’t know others thought the same. Is this a well researched area? Is there a term for it?

*God Jul

I do the same thing, but personally I've no issue with the term 'Pagan.' I think some Heathens like Arith just don't want to be lumped in w/ the term 'Neo-Pagan' (another term I'm fine with) because it brings up stereotypes of supposedly clueless, new-agey, wiccan-wannabes, which is unfortunate. People have to start somewhere.

In my younger days I definitely was a heathen with or without a capital H, more notably in my time in the army.

A "pagan" is generally anyone who is non-Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) and/or polytheistic in their religious/spiritual/cultural path, like Hindus and Buddhists, just to name the most well known. "Heathen" is specifically referring to those practitioners of pre-Christian Germanic/Norse Tribal religion, be it historical reconstructionism or any of the New Age groups (Asatru, AFA, Troth, TAC, etc.). And of course, both "pagan" AND "heathen" (lower-case H) have evolved over centuries to be derogatory terms used as a means to remind/reinforce the supposed inferiority of anyone who is not a follower of "the BIG three" Abrahamic faiths mentioned above. Hope this helps to clear things up for everyone reading this.

(Old people think it means rowdy) (Bikers think it means in a gang)

People usually think it means one who is "Godless"

@@wolfmauler yes, I've heard most people use it in this context. Christians have stripped the meaning from the words in a way.

@@steakslapn9724 in Russian language, pagan means very bad. I am sure Christian did this change of meaning.

Mind to explain your beliefs?

@@libertylovin2359 it's a it tricky to txt it. I try follow the ideas/concepts christ taught, I do consider the Christian God as the lead god. I do acknowledge other gods, whole also thinking they're all the same 1 god just differed by culture/language. I like the idea of referring to earth as "the goddess" though I don't necessarily think it's alive in the sense that you, me, or a deer are. But we were born of the earth as pagans believe. And technically Christians kinda do too, just not with the same understanding. And it makes sense why people use the phrase "mother earth." It is a pagan idea, just modified. That's just a more basic idea of what I follow. I do prefer to acknowledge yhwh and odin specifically.

hahahahahahah

LoL 😂

Pagan is easier to type.

@@colinp2238 how so? Old ways has one more letter and new age has the same :) but we are also talking about in video

@@BlazeLeeDragon I like Old Ways too, though I'm perfectly fine with Pagan. Arith seems more concerned with Heathen not being lumped in w/ Neo-Pagan.

@@celestepalm6949 indeed

@@BlazeLeeDragon How about Animism? I always figured it meant the same thing: a big umbrella /root term for all other spiritual paths. I prefer Animist myself.

*stares in Native* you claiming to speak for us? cause um...no.

True. There is no designated "Native" who can speak for all 567+ tribal nations and to say there are random "Natives in North America who..." is contributing to pan-Indigenism. As a Hunkpapa Lakota, I can only speak for myself and what I've personally seen and experienced. Nobody should be speaking about anything ceremonial online because there are enough people trying to self-Indigenize and mine data infor their own purposes.

I am Molungeon I speak from my elders who are mixed of different this is how it was told to me

I think he might be saying, "Tak for i dag" or something like that. I'm not sure.

I have to agree specifically when it comes to Buddhism. It's such an ancient belief system, and varies in the way it's understood from place to place. Its syncretic nature makes it difficult to pigeonhole it so easily. Merely dumping it into one of two boxes and calling it done is a little lazy. But let's do some basic examination to see why. Mahayana Buddhism is definitely not a world-denying form, as it's specifically a way to travel through this world without being at odds with this world, a "great vehicle" you ride, until you get to where you're going - a philosophy for a good life, but not a crutch to be relied upon. It's also used to carry others, in oversimplified terms. The practises are very practical and focused on relieving suffering in the world we live in. Sure, there have been many additional beliefs and folk traditions attached to it, but at it's core, it's main function is acceptance of this world and relief from suffering here. Theravadan Buddhism which (as it's practised) is more about rebirth and achieving salvation in the next life. You could make a case for it being a world-denying religion. In all cases, Buddhism lacks gods. There are aspects of our nature we may see used in temples, but most of these (Guanyin for example) are local folk beliefs that have found their way into the cannon, but have no relation to the base texts or reported teachings of Buddha. Any supernatural abilities or occurrences in the texts have clearly been added later. This is also an over simplified explanation, but serves the purpose of arguing against throwing Buddhism in the same bucket as Abrahamic and pagan religions.

@@MiaogisTeas The same is also true for Hinduism, and I personally have connections to Śākta/Śaiva Tantra and Tibetan Buddhism. I would actually argue that the majority of Buddhists across history have been polytheists. Bodhisattvas take on deity-like qualities in many forms of Mahāyāna and Vajrayāna Buddhism, and there are many examples of indigenous religions being integrated with Buddhism - e.g. the historical interaction of Shinto and Zen in Japan. There is no reason to assume that these kinds of indigenous beliefs are incompatible with or contradictory to Buddhism. Early narratives about Gautama Buddha's life often mention supernatural events and even Buddha's interaction with Hindu deities such as Brahmā. Theravāda practitioners in places such as Thailand are also known to honor Buddhas and arhats, nature spirits, ancestors and spirits of the dead. The interpretation of Buddhism as non-theistic is largely a Western one.

They don't realize, don't see that they've done anything wrong as they're "saving souls"

Having been raised in the Deep South, I would classify it as a sort of religious ecstasy in some cases. The overwhelming “joy” and pride in “saving souls.” Having had my brush with organized religion before turning back to the more spiritual beliefs of my mother... It feels...Distasteful. Gleefully recounting the erasure of entire cultures and beliefs.

I think they see it as a good thing since their God is the one true God. They have no shame of erasing cultures on their path because they view that they have saved these people by showing them the "truth"

Definitely pride. they still want to do it, annihilate anything not Christian in our current (US) society. Talking about it in public means huge applause

I like it real not pagan or religious Religion is Satanic