The History of Turf Wars in Monster Hunter

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@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed this video! It took a lot of effort to make! Thank you again to MonsterSlayerSquad for letting me use their Iceborne Turf War compilation! Remember to like, subscribe and share with your friends!

@Rekeses 3 ай бұрын

Love u bro, keep up with the good work

@Tyranid_Hive_Mind 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact: the reason why damage numbers were added in 5th gen is so that players would know how much damage monsters dealt each other in turf wars

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

That 20th anniversary video was so good

@Tyranid_Hive_Mind 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings agreed, I find it fitting that bazelgeuse was in 52nd place

@magnabueno5360 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings never been so focused on an interview before lmao.

@samakiraroyjanssen6326 2 ай бұрын

It’s also 10% of their max hp, which is great.

@charyan2878 2 ай бұрын

Turf wars indirectly lead to a shittier multiplayer experience🥲🥲🥲🥲.

@ArtDumbster 3 ай бұрын

I love that the tzitzi just flashbangs and then leaves

@radiogobrrrrrrr1949 3 ай бұрын

First time I witnessed that I just went: “Motherfucker, don’t leave me with a blinded Odogaron!”

@ArtDumbster 3 ай бұрын

@@radiogobrrrrrrr1949 i remember fighting a paolumu, tzitzi appeared when the paolumu was angry (flying with the inflated neck), flashbangs and the paolumu falls to the ground

@31thieves 2 ай бұрын

@@ArtDumbsterBro just flashes and dips without elaborating. He just says “Shut up!”

@LegendaryDarkKnight602 2 ай бұрын

@@31thievesWhen it flashes Odogaron, Odog bites it and screams at it.

@31thieves 2 ай бұрын

@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 I just saw the turf war and you’re right. I do apologize for my earlier oversight.

@SirGigster 3 ай бұрын

The fact that Pukei didn't have a base World turf war but got one with Rajang in IB will never not be funny to me

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

They made sure to carry it over for Rise too lmao

@heyimurchin6575 3 ай бұрын

I can almost see Pukei's face light up in excitement since it got a turf war only for it to fade away as soon as it realize it was with a Rajang lmao

@alderwield9636 3 ай бұрын

Pukei : I finally got a turf war 😄 Its against rajang 😟

@LegendaryDarkKnight602 2 ай бұрын

Pukei: Why did it have to be Rajang?

@Kurominos1 Ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings i mean technically the Pukei vs Rajang turfwar makes sense lore wiese lore says that Pukei flees from larger dangers but loves to bully smaller monsters then him and if im not wronge Rajang is actually size wise smalelr then Pukei so in the turfwar Pukei thinks he can bully Rajang away then gets his ass kicked

@yangdragon1850 3 ай бұрын

I truly loved the concept of turf wars when I first saw them and felt like it gave the games a lot more of that real life feel with the ecology

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah they're pretty good!

@moneymoneymoney6777 3 ай бұрын

It's neat that Rajang can actually bypass the restriction where Kirin's horn can only break at 32% HP or lower, and that it has another slightly different turf war animation if the horn is already broken

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

That's something I should have mentioned, yeah

@andreamassari7954 3 ай бұрын

Bishaten vs Almudron goes so hard for no reasons but I love it

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

It's a really underrated turf war!

@thecardgame_mercenary 3 ай бұрын

Actually Great Girros sometimes "fights" Odogaron. When the Player hunts Odogaron and Girros is there and spots them it charges towards the Odogaron and bites it, leaving Odo paralyzed and then Girros focuses on the Player.

@LegendaryDarkKnight602 2 ай бұрын

Odogaron has a fight with every large monster living in theValentine's, even Vaal Hazak but sometimes he can get carried away in his work. Like when Deviljho appears.

@Zyckro 3 ай бұрын

I hope they use the turf wars like in base World in Wilds. Learning the pecking order that way was awesome!

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

I hope so too!

@spookyfrogs1874 3 ай бұрын

"the standard anjanath we all know and.... know" NOOO LEAVE HIM ALONE

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

NEVER!

@duwanglover3424 2 ай бұрын

Leave my baby boy go. Anjanath my baby boy

@dumpstergasfire 3 ай бұрын

I’m convinced that if capcom made a fighting game with monsters it would sell like crazy

@Tavishburn 3 ай бұрын

nah, i want 'The Isle' but monster hunter monsters.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Rajang would be the most powerful fighter and the game would die within weeks, sadly :(

@MichaelNTL 3 ай бұрын

Never played monster hunter rise?

@LegendaryDarkKnight602 2 ай бұрын

Monster Hunter: The Pokémon Edition.

@glowdonk Ай бұрын

I'd main Glavenus 100%

@Nelland 3 ай бұрын

I really hope in the future Queen Seltas returns with a turf war where she throws a Seltas at a Deviljho only for it get instantly devoured that would be hilarious

@magnabueno5360 3 ай бұрын

There are minor details about Aknosom vs Somnacanth turf war I'd like to point out: When Somnacanth spreads the sleep gas, your hunter can fall asleep too, and while Aknosom just sleeps there (with a new sleeping animation lmao) Somnacanth just runs away. Also, with Auroracanth, instead of spreading the sleep gas, it just makes Aknosom fall over. That turf war is so underrated!

@JustZen53122 3 ай бұрын

Auroracanth smacking Aknosom out of the sky and then to the side just because will never not be funny to me

@magnabueno5360 3 ай бұрын

@@JustZen53122 pure disrespect

@willglorian 3 ай бұрын

I loved how you possibly made us discover new turf wars as I didn't know the late sunbreak fights. A turf war I would have loved to see is Tigrex vs Diablos where the desert tyrant charge into Tigrex only to get repelled by a 360. Diablos follows with an attempted ambush like Rathian but get countered by Tigrex's roar. Tigrex finishes with either a charge breaking Diablos' horn or throws a boulder to stun him. Black Diablos would spin the fight by going further than regular Diablos to launch a jumping attack throwing Tigrex to the ground then finishes the fight with a tail slam. The winner leaves to eat since the fight is tiring. I think it would be a cool representation of both monsters' strengths and weaknesses and would change from the recycled turf wars.

@omega13whitelucario95 3 ай бұрын

I didn't know there was a Turf War Between Alm and Bishitan but that might just be because I didn't encounter the two often on the same quest

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah Tigrex vs Diablos is one of those turf wars I'm surprised doesn't exist, considering they're both in the desert a lot. Same with Zinogre vs Nargacuga; also doesn't.

@nothing-of5yc 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWingsIt would be cool if weirder monsters like Kezu or the crabs to get a turf war that why I would like old monsters to come back

@apgdanielricardo8196 3 ай бұрын

I only saw the turf war between Lunastra and Velkhana once, and it was exactly in the same spot in the guiding lands, and they were also clipping through the rocks lol

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah that turf war was definitely built for the open air lmao.

@mrsgarden4380 3 ай бұрын

If i remember correctly, one of the first FIRST interactions bewteen monsters is how Velociprey will attack Rathian/Rathalos in the first generation, but my memory is a but fuzzy about it

@Tavishburn 3 ай бұрын

TECHNICALLY the first turf war was in MH2/MHP2nd/MHF2 the velociprey in the jungle nest area would directly attack rathian (and possibly other monsters?) when you topple them specifically in that area, this was a running theme whenever that map appeared in the franchise, i think they may even possibly do it in sunbreak though im not sure on that one.

@dragobot999 3 ай бұрын

Honestly, this might be the coolest History/Evolution video you've done. I love the thoroughness and analysis of each of the turf wars, especially since they're relatively tricky to make happen in Rise/Sunbreak. And damn are those unique Rise/Sunbreak turf wars sweet. I love Malzeno and Primordial so much, plus Velkhana's new unique fights are stunning.

@Mirawaru 3 ай бұрын

Unironically Rathalos' copy and pasted turf wars in Rise are unironically really good imo Cuz they allow you to see what large monsters it preys upon with little to no resource cost. I think that territorial turf wars should be less and unique, but giving apex carnivores a copy and pasted hunting turf war where it smashes a bunch of medium sized monsters... maybe give them a chance to instakill that monster if it is not a target too!

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah not all recycled turf wars are bad, those Rathalos ones still work well because there's not much his opponents can do against him.

@Kurominos1 Ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings i mean Kulu who is famous for using tools (rocks) coudl at least try to smack him out with a rock throw i mean the whole Gimmick of Kulu was more or less that theyr quite smart for monster Standards cause they can use "tools" and know how to use a rock to block attacks ( it understands that a rock can block stuff) so giving them some turfwars showing that off would have been great imo it would also have been unique and funny if these turfwars would not end in a clear winner or a tie when kulu "wins" a : kulu gets his butt kicked cause the oponent is to strong b : kulu hits the oposing Monster with the rock dealing minimal dmg but knocking it down and kulu then runs away some i would have come up with Barroth vs Kulu Barroth charges Kulu throws the rock hitting Barroth on the head mid charge bringing him slightly off balance and making him stumble and crash but the whole speed/momentum makes barroth still slide towards kulu knocking them down too Kulu vs Rajang Kulu throws the rock ..but Rajang catches it looking at the rock while Kulu is kinda "mind blown" then Rajang throws the rock back knocking Kulu down with it (kinda like the ,,well this didnt worked out as planed situation) Kulu vs Bishaten where bishaten bombs Kulu with fruits Kulu trys to dodghe then digs up a rock and blocks some fruits with it making bishaten realeise ,,ok ,,,i should leave and when bishaten turns aroudn Kulu slam dunks the rock on bishaten i could also see this other where after kulu has the rock bishaten thinks its ok then kulu throwes the rock at bishaten and bishaten throws the furit the fruit gets knocked away by the rock and the rock hititng bishaten right in the face these stuff could have been altered quite well with stronger Monsters where kulu trys to block but the attacks are to strong or stuff like Kulu throws the rock at like a charging tigrex geting it stuck in its mouth making the tigrex flail around trying to get rid off the rock giving the kulu time to run away these would also imo give the impressen that kulu themself dont wants to do much with other Monsters but gets attacked/huntet and then shows that hes not as an easy meal as some Monsters think

@RustyhairedAlp9575 3 ай бұрын

Would be cool if they started off with some recycled turf wars in order to have every possible large monster interaction potentially result in a turf war, but then change the recycled ones post-release to make them more unique from each-other. That way, the team could have more turf wars and the community can deliver feedback on the recycled ones on how to make them unique (like having great wroggy spray poison at a brute wyvern grabbing it).

@darkerm76 3 ай бұрын

This is by far one of the best video from you. I love long detailed video. Keep it up. Hope to see more from older titles and new one too.🏅

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@makotoplush9776 3 ай бұрын

I think the monsters in Rise having to move to a certain area before having a turf war is unintentionally funny. It's like they're both saying "I'm gonna beat you to death but first let's move to a desirable area"

@temphy 5 күн бұрын

It's crazy that someone has a positive mindset about this bc it's incredibly tilting to me. Monsters already run away a shit ton in rise, then the maps are gigantic, and on top of all that they'll randomly decide, "yea I'm gonna go beef with this monster I detected across the map for no reason at all".

@makotoplush9776 5 күн бұрын

@@temphy you must be fun at parties lol

@lleprechaunn5449 15 сағат бұрын

8:10 very sad you didn't mention that Tzitzi does have unmarked turf wars, where the little bastard shows up, flashbangs your target, and leaves. Tzitzi is my favorite CoD player

@dr.calibrations7984 Ай бұрын

Fun fact about Odogaron. He's actually pretty competent against Vaal. One time, I was hunting Vaal and Odo showed up, lost the turf war, and ran off. A little while later, he came back, and the turf war didn't proc, and he proceeded to body Vaal. His speed and power statistically counter Vaal. It was pretty amazing, especially for me as someone who loves Odo. He's tied with Nargacuga as my favorite non Elder dragon. I like to think since I was in full Odogaron gear that he was backing me up!

@MyCoolHistory 26 күн бұрын

I feel like they wouldn’t back up a person wearing armor made from parts of other odogaron lol. Maybe seeing that made them mad and they took it out on Vaal.

@OtakuJuanma2 5 күн бұрын

I'd like to point out that the Seregios and Magala fight makes so much sense, as Seregios the first Apex of 4U. The Turf war of Rise implies that Seregios got infected but was strong enough to fight Magala, and through it overcome the virus.

@TheCobraKing209 3 ай бұрын

49:08 If you could catch it at the end, Apex Zinogre tries to make a final stand but ultimately succumbs and becomes rideable.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

It's awesome lol, he breaks out like the other Apexes do, so Amatsu smacks him again.

@S.I.L. 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings Also you and Utsushi ride him together instead of just you.

@rundasthehunter5736 3 ай бұрын

LET THEM FIGHT !!

@BigGhost420 3 ай бұрын

Absolute disrespect from maggie with that turf war. When i first saw magnamalo's turf war, i was just watching the fireworks until i got 2 giant wyverns to the face. I'd be lying if i said it didn't make me jump a little bit 😂😂

@dima_keller 3 ай бұрын

I think you're putting a bit too much focus on stalemates. It's amazing to see the hierarchy in the World's ancient forest, but it also makes total sense for someone like Nargacuga not fit into it and be a much tougher match up for Rathalos. Also there shouldn't be a 100% clear "this monster is tier x so it beats all of these monsters, but loses to all of these" as it diminishes their strong and weak sides

@victory8928 Ай бұрын

Yep, it is why I wish Bazel and jho had two turf wars one with Bazel as the aggressor and one with jho as the aggressor to show this

@KaijuAkai Ай бұрын

Deviljoh: uses its immensely powerful jaws to lift prey off the ground. Rajang: HERE COMES A GIANT FIST!!!!.

@kyogrecrown5869 3 ай бұрын

Lunagaron vs zinogre has a cool build up, but when the action starts they both move in slow motion. Seregios gets a mid turf with gore, and doesnt get to fight rathalos? Magnamalo out maneuvering flying wyverns and elders in the feels like plot armor.

@boomer4044 3 ай бұрын

It was a huge missed opportunity to not see Seregios and Astalos battle Rathalos and Rathian in Sunbreak

@orange0666 Ай бұрын

Magnamalo should not have tied against elders

@joseignaciodepierola2855 3 ай бұрын

Anjanath against Kulu Ya Ku or Great Wroggi feel less like turf wars, and more like beatdowns, imagine if Fulgur was in Sunbreak, and had a turf war with Great Baggi

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

God it really feels like their poor necks are about to snap, the way their bodies flop around

@7thAlchemist_0174 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been replaying world iceborne recently, and I realized just how cool turf wars are. I hope we get more wilds info soon. We’ve basically had nothing since that reveal trailer.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Let them cook. I reckon we'll see the next trailer at Summer Game Fest.

@SirCactus__ 2 ай бұрын

9:16 Bazelgeuse: let my introduce myself

@SarcasticShinyZoroark 3 ай бұрын

Malzeno and Velkhana’s turf war gives off real divorced energy ngl

@danielpichardo7749 3 ай бұрын

I literally only knew of magnalamo turfwars in Rise Without this vid i would've never seen any other rise turfwar

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah it's mad, there's quite a few!

@JaxDaHax1 3 ай бұрын

While not part of the turf wars, at the very least Brachy can put slime on other monsters, which later explodes. Such wasted potential

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

I know that can happen but have never seen it in-person. It's so interesting how they coded that but never implemented in his turf wars. Maybe at one point they wanted to.

@JaxDaHax1 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings i know right

@lolialf 3 ай бұрын

Sunbreak goes really hard with its turf wars

@Bones_MaIone 3 ай бұрын

If I had a nickel for every time you uploaded a video while we were playing Helldivers together, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

@cloverring 17 сағат бұрын

Even after 3 years my friends and I are still surprised by who wins in turf wars!

@jommunar002 3 ай бұрын

Black Diablos and Diablos also have a random chance for either to win and not just Glavenus and Rathalos, I have thought Black Diablos always wins but I saw it in a quest and I was surprised I guess. I didn't even break off his horns! Diablos vs. Diablos has always been my favorite, Velkhana and Malzeno will be my 2nd, I remember seing it in the ecology videos and then I see it in-game.

@0uttaS1TE 9 күн бұрын

The constant ties in IB's turf wars make me think that Capcom was scared of making someone's fav monster definitively weaker than another, especially when they're tussling with previous flagships. It reminds me of the Fast and Furious movies, where due to contracts and egos, there can never be a definitive winner in any of the fist fights in those films. Even the number of strikes have to be equal.

@Don-ds3dy 8 күн бұрын

I didnt know there were turf wars in rise till the Magmamalo hunt, the ground slam was a 2nd surprise.

@andreworders7305 5 күн бұрын

7:41 Diablos can’t be an Apex predator though, he’s not a predator

@miiverseisdead4942 3 ай бұрын

Turf Wars in Rise don't always end in Wyvern Riding. They can still sometimes war and then get back up to fight a little bit afterwards when they're cooling down from Wyvern Riding.

@lachlanwu2838 3 ай бұрын

I want to see variants of the same turf wars, like for Rathalos has alot of recycled animations, maybe one is he picks up the other monster, but other times he just goes for a claw swipe, or sweeping fire. Additionally, I think it was in IB, but sone turf wars had a random chance for either side to win, it'd be cool to see that in Wilds too. If Garangolm and Lunagaron come back, maybe during the ice breath part, sometimes Garangolm can power through and smack Lunagaron.

@starfury9708 3 ай бұрын

Fun Fact everyone Chaotic Gore Magala can Turf War with Seregios bc of a later patch :)

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Video or it never happened.

@starfury9708 3 ай бұрын

@HeavyWings much like the Malzeno VS Velkhana Turf War, expedition or Anomaly Investigations.

@michaeljoshua726 19 күн бұрын

I'm still shocked that Rajang and Garangolm didn't have a turf war We literally have two monke in the new game And they didn't even bother staring at it

@Safi-jiiva 3 ай бұрын

This was really well done, I hope there is a history of final bosses in the future.

@kalijahdaley7866 3 ай бұрын

I’m still pissed brachy doesn’t absolutely beat the shit outta the raths with his fist.

@connorspillman9437 6 күн бұрын

I like to think that the constant ties in turf wars for iceborne represents invasive species and how they change environments

@joshuagreenough1954 Ай бұрын

Great video, I think it's worth mentioning the disparity of turf wars that include Tigrex, Nargacuga and Barioth. Although they are flying wyverns, I do think it is important to note that they exclusively have a different skeleton compared to to other flying wyverns like the raths and all the way to something like Legiana. In my head I always classified Tigrex and the other two as "Gen 2 flying wyverns" as opposed to The much more standardised Gen 1 flying wyvern skeleton. I always thought this to be the reason why any turf wars including them were heavily recycled.

@andreworders7305 5 күн бұрын

2:25 interesting that the 3DS can apparently handle something the Wii couldn’t considering their similar specs

@monstercekyt6090 3 ай бұрын

Here are 3 turf wars I want to see in the future. 1.Gravios vs Rajang 2.Magnamalo vs Zinogre 3.Goss Harag vs Rajang

@alderwield9636 3 ай бұрын

Man gravios vs akantor turf war but in real gameplay and not just in ecology cinematic video would be so damn awesome

@Ze-splattingmain 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact: if glavunus and rathalos fight is the upper levels of the ancient forest and elders recces rathalos is the victor. I’m also decently not a fan of magnamalo’s base turf wars. For one they are all copy and pastes and for two he absolutely breaks my immersion with how this huge fanged wyvern could literally fly thanks to hell fire. Also what a way to disrespect bazelgeuse by ignoring his blast prof carapace and his own bombs not to mention they can hold own against a nergiangte and had the strangth to escape jhos jaws. It’s just utter Garbo to me. It’s just one of the reasons that magnalmo is my least favoured fanged wyvern. Scored is pretty cool for how edgy he looks.

@ChakChakGuy 19 күн бұрын

I think one additional reason for the many ties in Iceborne might also just be the health totals of the monsters. Since IB monsters have very inflated HP due to the clutchclaw/tenderizing being introduced. adding more ways for free damage helps balance that out for people who haven't gotten as confident with those mechanics or overlooked them. also it's just kinda sad if a Turf War happens and the monster you are actually hunting doesn't get any damage. in rise since the turf war always triggers wyvern riding and therefore will always give you a good damage opportunity ties don't feel as punishing. Regular monster attacks triggering wyvern rides is also another reason why they didn't need as many turfwars in the game. You already have a different mechanic that provides the spectacle of two monsters fighting

@thatacepanda 2 күн бұрын

Enjoying this and then I noticed the palico called Darquesse and I'm like...a Skulduggery Pleasant fan? 😂 I hope so but maybe it's a reference to something else

@verdanteridium 3 ай бұрын

I do have a question. Why is the 'power tiers' not being clean an issue again? Like the whole segement around the time stamp 55:23 to 56:00. Why is is this an issue? These aren't Dragonball characters we are comparing. The 'X monster is MORE POWERFUL than Y monster. Y monster beats Z monster and X monster loses to Z.' isn't a problem, a square version of it happened with the Fated 4 no? Just without turf wars. To me its sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining about something. I'd appreciate an explanation of the problem rather than glossing over it like its undisputed truth. "Its just seems like a mess to me." Isn't exactly a stunning explanation.

@themeekkat 3 ай бұрын

I agree. It's probably from his mindset of a linear pecking order, most of the time, and for their to be a power scaling thing. This is an issue with the MH community and others in general. It's kinda childish tbh as it's a middle school like thinking. Not even real life ecosystems always have a straight hierarchy. The food chain mindset is a very simple one. It's more of a food web. It's not really survival of the fittest but survival of who survives. (Which is funny when you consider heavy wings showed that while Bazel is strong, he is not a good match up against Magmamalo due to him being an explosive type of monster himself. ) One day a pride of lions take down an elephant. The next day quite a few lions get crushed by same Elephant. Same with a crocodiles, Buffalo Snake vs mongoose, Mongoose vs eagle Eagle vs snake Spider vs wasp (Sometimes wasps lay eggs in spiders. Specifically the tarantula wasp) Wasps vs frogs Spider vs frogs (Some spiders will have frogs as "pets" while others prey on them. And frogs can eat spiders.) I'm mostly speaking of kinds of animals here as there are a lot of species within a kind with many different dynamics. There's so much more to animals than the basic thinking of predator - prey or MUI Goku beats x characters, X characters beats y, why beats z therefore z can't beat MUI Goku. (I dare not add more names for a reason)

@BRGamingz 3 ай бұрын

nice vid bro

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ShukakuTheCrazy1 3 ай бұрын

I never even noticed the recycling of turf wars. They all looked so cool to me. Monke vs elder dragons makes me wonder how it would fair vs fatalis.

@SunnyC.D.A221 3 ай бұрын

Sunbreak basically said "Power Levels are bullshit "

@ReedBariumfox 3 ай бұрын

kushala is the definition of hydrogen baby when something so powerful yet so weak to poisoning is thrown around by a venomous durian, which makes it quite realistic how it ends up as a tie.

@victory8928 Ай бұрын

It also makes lore sense since espinas has been known to attack and drive off Kushala in the past

@Gomeshiro 3 ай бұрын

I hope in Wilds to "similar power" turf wars, to have 2 different outcomes decided by the monster HP% It would makes sense if the Monster you're fighting and shipping away their strength to lose a fight they would Tie and in case both monster are on equal HP% maybe their Size, the one closer to searching Silver/Gold crown wins overall Ties are kinda boring

@XNDL44 3 ай бұрын

Still waiting on a unique turf war between Rajang and Brachydios

@Fryingpan-zl9it 3 ай бұрын

9:14. average bazelgeuse molment

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Was so annoyed when that happened, had to record the turf war again

@mysticstrikeforce5957 3 ай бұрын

i wish in the next anniversary or just a huge update of the series we would get like a long hour of monsters just fighting each other and see who is at the top but we know the company would choose the rathians

@NamesJustE 5 күн бұрын

You say that stalemates and re-used turf wars deminsh the hierarchy establish by the trur wars in base World but you fail to realize, thats the point. The new monsters introduced in Iceborne are either displaced, caused by the ecological changes taking place, or are invading species altogether. The hierarchy would literally be a mess and naturally monsters would fight eachother based on what they know and have encountered before

@andreworders7305 4 күн бұрын

46:06 weren’t the Anjanath ones originally exclusive?

@themuffinprincesa21 Ай бұрын

We do see Rajang turn into his Variant of Furious Rajang in MHW Iceborne. So that would actuslly be the first time seeing a monster become a variant in real time

@theupperking 3 ай бұрын

Love your videos and appreciate your work in making them but this did NOT have to be over an hour long bro. Most of the time you were just talking in circles, repeating your points with slightly different wording. You could have cut the length to half if not for the redundant script

@Expresso52 3 ай бұрын

Agreed, there is also a lot of "monster starts with a tail spin, then the other does a bite, then the other jumps, then..." that bloats the video

@Fioriole Ай бұрын

I get wanting less draws for the sake of more details on the ranking of monsters in the local food chain, but it feels like a waste of time when a monster trots into the area, gets in a turf war with your target, and the target monster wins, leaving zero reward for the hunter in a circumstance that really couldn't have been avoided.

@TheLastOutlaw289 Ай бұрын

Rajang vs Deviljho....WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!🤣

@ShinKamaitachi Ай бұрын

Awesome if capcom had a monster hunter fighting game.

@stormerjc9493 3 ай бұрын

I absolutely love turf wars but it's clear there's a few problems, iceborne quantity over quality issue I think stems from 1. Dev short cuts 2. Iceborne Invader problem which results in a lot of copy pasting 3. Feelings like they need to have all the apex level monsters fight, I'd rather have a handful of really good turf wars to show off ecology and rivalry and acutaly take into account each monsters strengths then have a mountain of copy paste, I also don't like how they are very iron clad in power between monsters, it's a very strict higher rank beats lower rank unless your magnamalo in which case you get to be a spoilt child, or 2 monsters that are 5 star must draw even tho there's a huge disparity in power between monsters at every level, some punching well above thier weight and others acutaly being a lot weaker, like mizutsune and Gravious are not in the same weight class of power what so ever yet they are still considered 5 star monsters They have also left a lot of rivalrys without turf wars like the raths vs astalos and Seregios or rathian vs glavenus

@Daisythepage 29 күн бұрын

20:28 granted in reality food chains aren’t as clear cut as they make it seem in school and are borderline faulty In reality it’s a lot more like iceborne and also very circumstantial

@thecardgame_mercenary 3 ай бұрын

Tzitzi: Approach. Flash. Leave. Repeat.

@vengeflyking2722 3 ай бұрын

In World it sometimes occurred to me that the 2 monsters met again in the same area for a 2v1, just to later remember that their turf war cooldown is up again. It's really strange, and kinda annoying to deal with, so I hope they make the loser be scared of the winner in the next game. In Rise that kind of happened because any monster that can't be wyvern ridden will just try to get away no matter what.

@BoosterGoldy Ай бұрын

i have like 3k hours in world i had no clue diablos gets fckn tombstoned by Joe

@Nathan24634 Ай бұрын

Just getting into the mh series but something that would be interesting because i don't think i have seen this brought up is the damage we do to a monster affec the turf war

@EXstormDragon 3 ай бұрын

A few things Pretty sure mizu ties with Zinogre. I've always thought of a win as the monster falling over for an extended period, trying to get up, like world, but Mizu doesn't fall over. I suppose the counter argument to this is that by that logic, Primordial Malzeno ties with Velkhana but I feel like the context is different for the conclusion of each fight. Primodial straight up folds Velkhana with a three piece combo definitively winning the fight but Mizu bubbles blasts zinogre, forcing it away. Pretty sure Standard Magnamalo has a the same turf war as Scarred, with Malzeno. I feel like there's a Mandela effect going on right now. I coulda sworn the turf war message popped up between Amatsu and Apex Zinogre but looking up KZfaq videos, not a single one showcased that. I wanna go by technicality on this one. Valstrax has one "Turf War" in Sunbreak with Amatsu because it's the only one monster that actually responds to the ambush. It's always called an ambush but to me, it's always been a turf war.

@andreworders7305 4 күн бұрын

15:22 crazy guess after those two: he has one with Narcacuga doesn’t he EDIT: yep

@robgoins3672 Ай бұрын

Let me help you out. Raging Brachadios is the apex predator. A disgusting specimen he is.

@anton6495 2 ай бұрын

Did you guys know that there were sort of turf wars in all monster hunter? They are still hitting each other so it is sort of turf war but with cheaper damage

@thematt4328 3 ай бұрын

I put 1,200 hours into rise/sunbreak and the only turf war I saw outside of magnamalo vs.... was tetranadon vs arzuros

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Man that sucks

@stormwyvernsorna9491 3 ай бұрын

I have an idea for a brand new exclusive turf wars for monster hunter wilds since wild is teorized to be open world theres could be a posibility for more than 3 monster in one locale so i propose a unique feature calling -Rathian vs seregios if a seregios and rathian is this the same locale and both monster saw each other they would have a turf wars BUT if rathian is above 50% heatlh the turf wars would shown as seregios getting the upper hand but rathian manage to escape at the end but if rathian is below 50% heatlh seregios would proceed to beat rathian with no second chance for her but rathian manage to break free and fire a single weak fireball that only pushes seregios away as she proceed to let out a special roar that once finish are followed with a rathalos roar and a dive toward the seregios knocking it down and rathalos came down and proceed to check on rathian before telling her to fly away turn toward seregios and become enraged as a result of seregios hurting his mate that bring to the second one -rathalos vs seregios If a rathalos and a seregios is in the same locale or rathalos was called in by rathian and they saw each other they will have a turf wars it will started with seregios firing some sharp scale at rathalos only for rathalos to swat them off with a tailspin after that rathalos going in with a talon strike only for seregios to dodge it as both flying wyvern take to the sky and having an aerial war fair with each other before rathalos manage to grab seregios and slam hin to the ground dealing some damage and pin hin but gets kick off and seregios fire a couple off sharp scale at rathalos pushing him back before flying away in defeat

@andreworders7305 4 күн бұрын

45:47 Magnamalo is a dragon?

@victory8928 Ай бұрын

36:50 I don’t like the idea of turf wars being inherent to strength alone and not other factors

@chito2701 3 ай бұрын

i always treat TURF WARS as environmental traps but more random. overall they're awesome audition in the series.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Environmental traps were pretty cool, but I can only remember them happening in the Ancient Forest

@andreworders7305 5 күн бұрын

14:32 Capcom gonna Capcom

@Pitto1414 3 ай бұрын

too bad most of the time when two rise/sunbreak monsters intrect with each other the things go: One hits the other with the most pathetic attack ever existed and makes it rideable then leave

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Yeah it sucks, especially if it's someone like Arzuros smacking Teostra lmao

@andreworders7305 4 күн бұрын

Do the animations still work the same in that scenario in Rise?

@Mirawaru 3 ай бұрын

40:57 Tbf Crimson Gliw valstrax doesn't even get idle animations (like Rathalos scratching rovks or wood to mark territory or Royal Ludroth hydrating the smaller ones) so it probably didn't get any for developement reason. Its introduction feels very rushed, also cuz the normal version didn't make the cut.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

I didn't know that about Valstrax in Rise

@ScanovatheCarnotaurus 3 ай бұрын

I personally don't care for recycled turf wars. World's turf wars were something special because of how unique they were. They communicated to you about the world you were in hunting. Iceborne onwards, it's just "animations" at this point. They don't feel that special when basically every monster has at least 1 recycled turf war. In my opinion, they should stay unique, even if that means there isn't a lot of them. Turf wars aren't NEEDED for every monster when they already fight and do damage to each other with basic attacks (Yes this is a thing, even if you don't see the damage numbers except for Rajang and Jho for some reason).

@farhanmuzaki6364 Ай бұрын

okay so i was distracted by your hunter name hahaha

@andreworders7305 4 күн бұрын

Des kirin lose lightning attacks after their rajang turf war?

@Roobere207 3 ай бұрын

What did he do to you😭 10:53

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

HE'S IN THE WAY!

@Roobere207 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWingspoor jyura always getting shitted on (ik lol)

@gurburgandr 3 ай бұрын

Imo I like the variability of turf wars with the likes of magna and velk and magna and kush/teo Because it properly illustrates why each of them win or lose Scorned and regular magna tie with velk because instead of making her flee immediately, velk actually attacks, however due to her weakness to fire, she would realistically tie with magna whereas teo is the elder dragon of fire and kush is resistant to fire HOWEVER weak to dragon mean that scorned wins whereas regular magna loses

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

Nobody really knows why Scorned has dragon element but imo one Magnamalo got really lucky and managed to kill an elder. Makes sense why Scorned is regularly able to

@ES-dp6tw 3 ай бұрын

Chaotic Gore Magala does have a turf war but it's the same animation as the base form against Seregios.

@HeavyWings 3 ай бұрын

I don't think that's true.

@ES-dp6tw 3 ай бұрын

@@HeavyWings kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8uKrLpmyeDemn0.html

@BanchoYumeno 3 ай бұрын

For me it makes sense Chameleos has NO Turf War especially with other Elders. If you analyse Chameleos, you can figure out that Chameleos is not a Predator, his abilities are evolved to avoid fights. Clearly you can use invicebility and heavy toxins for offence behaviors, but thats not the deal of it. like a venomous Snake, who bites his prey and let it run away to die. On top speaking the facts, he has no carapace, his skin isn't build to resist damage, i don't know if Capcom ever said what Chameleos is eating, but i would say he lives up to his Chamelon paragon and eats Bnahambras, Vespoids and other Stuff like that and bullies smaller Creatures like Pukei Pukei does if he can. The only Turf Wars i think he would have would be Nergigante and maybe Malzeno in Fact of Nergi can shut down his invincebility and Malzo could find him with the curios who are maybe able to sence him by his Blood. Espinas stands on the oposite side of the Board. He is a Predator and has a highly evolved Carapace to resists heavy damage. Yes his Elemental/Status-abilities aren't that strong like Chameleos, but all over more build for fighting a Kushala than Chameleos, which his Turf War showcases perfectly. I hope you understand what i want to say, my english isn't really good at all ^^"

@andreworders7305 5 күн бұрын

14:49 what do you have against Anjanath?