Helen Clark: Israel-Iran tension, China, and why I worry about AUKUS | Q+A 2024

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Q+A with Jack Tame

Q+A with Jack Tame

2 ай бұрын

Former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark on the news Iran has sent drones to Israel, Gaza, the influence of China, and why she worries about New Zealand joining AUKUS Pillar Two
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@stephenlennon7369
@stephenlennon7369 2 ай бұрын
To be an enemy of the US can be dangerous but to being a friend is fatal Henry Kissinger
@markreynolds1112
@markreynolds1112 Ай бұрын
not if your a capitalist democracy by default u fukin dork.....u have completely misunderstood the premises of tht kissinger quote.
@TheFalconerNZ
@TheFalconerNZ 2 ай бұрын
Taking a more neutral standpoint in the China/America tension is a very good & potentially powerful position. If we signed into AUKUS we would loss our right to question AUKUS actions & loss /weaken our relationship with China to talk the situation down. As a neutral voice we have the position to take a negotiationary roll in the conflict being able to talk equally to both sides in desecualtion rather than being forced to support AUKUS by agreement (remember there are always hidden strings in these agreements the public are not allowed to know). NZ is too small & can't afford to run a military as many people want & it should be run as a support/rebuilding roll, NOT a combat roll. Finally, I can't remember where I heard it but; You can't have peace talks if you keep poking guy on the other side with a stick, you can only talk peace if you offer your empty hand across the table in friendship.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
Well put. Nailed it. AUKUS is an aggressor alliance that New Zealand has no business being part of.
@HenriHattar
@HenriHattar Ай бұрын
You don't have to worry, N Z wont be invited. Clarke needs to realise that yes diplomatic premises may not be the best target in the world, but to say IF THAT diplomatic premises provide succor to genuine terroist orgnisations that they are NOT a genuine target is absurd.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@HenriHattar Your comments on AUKUS are completely wrong. The US is actively attempting to coerce New Zealand to join. You're also wrong about the Zionist bombing of Iran's consulate. Under International Law, it is never permitted to attack diplomatic premises. I've read your other comments here, and every single one is factually incorrect. Put bluntly: you don't know what you are talking about.
@TheFalconerNZ
@TheFalconerNZ Ай бұрын
@@HenriHattar International law decrees that embassies are 'inviolable'. With terrorist exceptions & during civil wars Embassies have been free from attacks since the law was introduced in 1963. All Nations know that if they attack an embassy their own embassies can come under attack & even America has refrained from attacking embassies they suspect are holding wanted terrorists for fear their embassies & thereby their diplomates could be endangered. Embassies providing shelter to terrorist can be surrounded & effectively put under siege until the wanted person moves outside the embassies protection.
@TheFalconerNZ
@TheFalconerNZ Ай бұрын
@@HenriHattar Oh & I know NZ will not be invaded as we have nothing worth the cost of attacking.
@rogerbrand6214
@rogerbrand6214 2 ай бұрын
"This is very high tech military equipment" For a country that can't afford to provide lunch for school kids 😢
@markreynolds1112
@markreynolds1112 Ай бұрын
the the role of a parent
@MaoriMan76
@MaoriMan76 Ай бұрын
​@@markreynolds1112Norway feeds their kids, its the right of every child to have a free lunch at school, whether rich or poor. It also contributes to better attendance and grades, its a shame the government here chooses to ignore that fact. And wonder why kifs do so poorly at school, now they're having attendance problems. This government have their heads so far up their ass theyre blind 😊
@frederickmiles327
@frederickmiles327 Ай бұрын
Since the end of WW2 serious strategic experts, generals, air Marshalls and heads of the defence departments in both the UK and US know that only long range aircraft and air forces can provide serious conventional defence and deterrence for NZ and Australia. That was Douglas MacArthurs advice to the Australian government.Forget buying new aircraft carriers or cruisers from the UK the only defence for Australia and New Zealand is American airpower and the RAAF. Churchill and most US and UK MOD officials regarded the Navy as a sunset industry and aircraft carriers even in 1948 or 1950 as targets. Serious US and Pacific defence plans for the defence of Australia and NZ and containment of the Russia and China has been to counter Russia and China's 9 dash line and inner and outer defence lines occupying 88 percent of the Sth China Sea has since 1950; to develop Island chain perimeter lines as static land US aircraft carriers.So Fiji, Tonga, Solomon's and the North and South Island are US static aircraft carriers and ships and armies are secondary, local and support given the small numbers NZ and Australia can provide.
@rod-contracts1616
@rod-contracts1616 Ай бұрын
That's parents responsibility as it was ours, but no longer.
@owenpope353
@owenpope353 Ай бұрын
What can I say when my very own are doing an outstanding job providing the meals for school children while the children's errisponsible parents fail their responsibility to provide the most important and basic need for their children. Provide the food and make the parents pay for it.
@Theodisc
@Theodisc 2 ай бұрын
Ever pragmatic, I've always liked and respected Helen Clark's worldview and leadership stance. What I heard her saying here today made common sense. We don't need to be getting involved with AUKUS. I do agree that if we do go down into that rabbit hole we might end up biting into more than we can chew. We are part of the Anglo Five-Eyes intelligence agreement. We should maintain the neutrality of a Southern Pacific Switzerland and garner a reputation for following and advising others to take the path of peace. If we used more reason over reacting too soon to our emotional drives we might actually advance farther and sooner as an emerging humanity. And no, it is not weakness to shun being a party to a bellicose polity, either via our own, or someone elses.
@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_
@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_ 2 ай бұрын
Always amuses me when some advocates NZ become the Switzerland of the South Pacific. So are we going to have full mandatory military conscription and ongoing training afterwards. Also, have those citizens armed and ready like they are in Switzerland. Switzerland also has a highly elaborate defense system constructed into it's borders, including underground tunnels and military bases. It also has highly advanced ground and air defense services, with missiles and fighter aircraft. We have virtually none of that. That is why Switzerland can afford to have a neutral defense policy. We can't, because we never invested in an independent defense strategy.
@thehoundGOT
@thehoundGOT 2 ай бұрын
Sense is sometimes not very common
@Theodisc
@Theodisc 2 ай бұрын
@@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_ No. I think not. We are not landlocked and hemmed in by five historically potential invaders. Instead we are lucky to be surrounded by an ocean and a sea, the former of which we call Pacific. We are very lucky to live on these islands. If you have done your OE you will know what I mean.
@aljoslin1527
@aljoslin1527 2 ай бұрын
She's a ccp mouth peice and the bad part of the WHO
@TJHofNZ
@TJHofNZ Ай бұрын
Military technology has moved on from the 16th century and the Spanish Armada. We cannot rely upon a few storms to defend us.
@evonzz
@evonzz Ай бұрын
Amazing Helen Clark is not privy to NZ security info that would have revealed that it wasn't the embassy that was bombed but rather a house next door. The embassy still stands - has anyone checked that?
@markpyke1230
@markpyke1230 2 ай бұрын
She needs to tell what happened in 2005 when Israel tried the 2 state solution, tell the truth
@user-kc9pn7df8o
@user-kc9pn7df8o 2 ай бұрын
What is the truth anymore..War raging all over the world..garrantee the US have a big part to play..
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Israel never ever ever accepted the 2 state solution. Ever. Helen deported israelinspies stealing dead nzers identities. Always a criminal.cpuntru.
@brianwheeldon4643
@brianwheeldon4643 Ай бұрын
Helen Clark is head and shoulders above any 'so -called' parlementarian at the Beehive today. They're out of control and understand little of geopolitik. I guess if you don't read history you can be treated as if you were born yesterday. That's the quality of our representatives in Parliament in 2024. It's not only sad, it's downright dangerous. Getting the Atlas organisation out of New Zealand would be an important first step. And stepping away from Tier 2 Auckus, another. Well said Helen Clark.
@kalibrokenshire3418
@kalibrokenshire3418 2 ай бұрын
Better to stay a neutral country as she says. Why is everyone pretending that Israel isn't committing a genocide in Palestine and what did Israel expect bombing the Iranian embassy ? Stupid men starting stupid wars.
@NA-sj9jy
@NA-sj9jy 2 ай бұрын
Oh god...a genocide? There's 2.3 MILLION citizens in Gaza. 40,000 killed out of 2.3 million is Not a Genocide. They are casualty's of war, with a gutless Hamas Terrorist group, using citizens as human shields, by establishing themselves under Hospitals, schools and homes. Hamas. is not a country, or a race of people, they are a terrorist organisation. By getting rid of them, Palestinian People will be FREE. A genocide would be if only 40,000 people were alive out of 2.3 million. Get smarter, and stop jumping on the narratives and agendas. Think, observe, for yourself.
@Karlandra
@Karlandra Ай бұрын
Maybe do a little research? Israel never started it, they've just decided that it is time to finish it after many, many decades of offering huge concessions in search of peace.
@TJHofNZ
@TJHofNZ Ай бұрын
What is your evidence of a genocide? Even a cursory look at demographics would tell you that there are many Palestinians living inside Israel's borders. If there was genocide why would they start in Gaza???
@dancelover558
@dancelover558 Ай бұрын
The highest Court on Earth , the International Court of Justice decided that Israel is plausibly committing Genocide in Gaza & Israel is now under investigation for that Crime of Crimes. I followed the case presented at ICJ by South Africa. The evidence offered was compelling. Clearly the ICJ simply did not accept what Israel presented to the Court. There have now been two separate statements on provisional measures required of Israel which they apparently have ignored.
@einroboter1301
@einroboter1301 Ай бұрын
@@Karlandra wonder whether your are idiot american or crazy isreali
@waynehawtin6413
@waynehawtin6413 2 ай бұрын
Remember this Mr Peters and Mr Luxon, look at Ukraine today? "To be an enemy of America maybe dangerous, to be a friend is fatal" New Zealanders never signed up for this!
@markreynolds1112
@markreynolds1112 Ай бұрын
not if your a capitalist democracy by default u fukin dork.....u have completely misunderstood the premises of tht kissinger quote. Reply
@sg305
@sg305 2 ай бұрын
I wonder who got rid of our strike airforce ......mmmmmm
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
Our air force was nothing anyway 😂
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't think the general public has missed them, anorak wearing plane spotters aside..
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
@@user-bg7yb5nl6ywe still need to be seen to at least try and do what we can even if we only have half a dozen fighter jets.
@zaksol7022
@zaksol7022 Ай бұрын
Why is this old bag still relevant she had her dash tvone hardup for ideas
@yhamilajojo8847
@yhamilajojo8847 Ай бұрын
Thank you Helen Clark for your profound knowledge on laws and humanism
@chicm88
@chicm88 2 ай бұрын
A good interview.
@indodom1141
@indodom1141 Ай бұрын
New Zealand should remain neutral and we should protect our soveignty at all costs,
@ianfisher6561
@ianfisher6561 2 ай бұрын
I've lost all trust and respect for the current form of the USA.
@markreynolds1112
@markreynolds1112 Ай бұрын
y?
@brianwheeldon4643
@brianwheeldon4643 Ай бұрын
@ianfisher6561 Agree totally. Having said that, they've been on the downward track since Bretton Woods. It's gotten worse since 9/11. The Maidan Coup in 2014 was an unreported war crime in 5 eyes countries. But we knew the CIA were involved. Our mainstream media has much to answer for.
@katong1953
@katong1953 Ай бұрын
The reunification of Taiwan with China (termed, contrary to fact and principle, as "re-absorption") has always been painted as a bloody affair in western propaganda. This is so only because the west would make it bloody.
@katong1953
@katong1953 Ай бұрын
My post on US empire propaganda with regard to the reunification of Taiwan with China was swiftly censored by UT. I wonder why people shouldn't know. Freedom of speech my foot.
@user-yd6sj3pe4j
@user-yd6sj3pe4j 8 күн бұрын
Helena Clark very fair lady & neutral
@user-rf9ws7hp3e
@user-rf9ws7hp3e 2 ай бұрын
I have never been a fan of Ms Clark …BUT this is some of the wisest words I have heard coming from any politician in recent times. Being neutral and a peace maker is a great strategic position to be in especially now.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Well it shows how blinkered you were to her fantastic governance as 9 years PM AND head of the UN development agency.
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
A great leader who actually knows how to lead, and is a great original thinker. Sadly, like the rest of Western democracy our political stocks have been on the decline for decades. The current govt bought and paid for by corporate NZ
@user-br9rj5hc8n
@user-br9rj5hc8n 2 ай бұрын
Those who talk of the loss of NZ strike force need to look at Ukraine Russia conflict, Russia has cut back it's use of it's air force.
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
The stupidity in their argument is that even if we wasted the money on a modern strike wing, it would be blown out of the sky in days by any sizeable aggressor. We can't afford to have modern attack aircraft in significant numbers. It is an absolutely pointless pipedream by plane spotters and 10 y/o in grown men bodies 🤣🤣🤣
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
We can not expect every other country to come to our aide if the shit hits the fan if we don’t at least have some sort of strike force, eg drones or jet fighters, these NZ female leaders love to stick there heads in the sand.
@markdev4796
@markdev4796 2 ай бұрын
Big question with any relationship with the US is do we want to be there if Trump returns.
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
When .
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
Hell be alot better than the brain dead twit that's in the white house now 😂
@kenmckay5578
@kenmckay5578 Ай бұрын
Be where ? The USA is currently making a hash of many things , so a change should be imminent!
@tpaine1815
@tpaine1815 2 ай бұрын
Ms Clark - there is nothing about a lack of transparency about the recent election. You should know - you are educated in political science - foreign affairs is never an election issue (only exception was the one caused by Labour in the mid-80s). AUKUS does not require us to buy any military equipment. It means that NZ is aware of the types of developments that are occurring in the great powers, and that includes China. The reality is that we are totally in a bind - yes China is our largest trading partner. Yes, our national values accord with the Western world. We are no different to any other Western country who is hedging with China and the US. Blurring ambiguity????
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
Policy departing from a long standing convention which has bipartisan consensus is something that should have been debated at the election. Same like Nact sneaking through the change to smoking ban (and god know what else they haven’t told us).
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
AUKUS will absolutely require New Zealand to buy military equipment, and it will include US designed systems intended to integrate their military into New Zealand's. That's exactly what Australia has signed up for, and at significant cost.
@DrakeBuilders
@DrakeBuilders Ай бұрын
#DameHelenClark #AuntieHelen ... #TooManyIgnored #KiwiLegend #NZRolemodel
@steveleong1389
@steveleong1389 Ай бұрын
NZ Govt should know that there is no such thing as bitting the hand that feeds you !
@feesullivan3439
@feesullivan3439 Ай бұрын
Or maybe the world is starting to say NO to the bully.
@dan8317
@dan8317 Ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of what Helen Clark says & I've always respected her world view. She's an incredibly accomplished politician and a genuine leader. However, given New Zealands position in the world, our hard power (or lack thereof), it's imperative that New Zealand has friends who at least loosely align with our world view & ideals. New Zealand already has ANZUS and we are allied with Australia. If the soft benefit of admission to AUKUS is a further strengthening of New Zealands relationships with like-minded countries & a quiet message to those who may be potential adversaries in the future, then I think AUKUS is the way to go.
@geeunit831
@geeunit831 Ай бұрын
Clarke is very smart and sensible. She was a great leader for NZ.
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
What.
@geeunit831
@geeunit831 Ай бұрын
@@olliemoose2020 Your mom, thats what.
@kennyjohnson2771
@kennyjohnson2771 2 ай бұрын
Wow, Helen Clark is a breath of fresh air. I wish there was more of Helen Clark in the West instead of promoting war.
@TJHofNZ
@TJHofNZ Ай бұрын
You assume she is for the West, that is your mistake. Once a communism sympathiser, always a communist sympathiser. as the Chinese no-less would say...
@markreynolds1112
@markreynolds1112 Ай бұрын
wow how culd u compare trump to Xi Jinping ? this woman is a woke a technocrat .....china is ther model Reply
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
A breath of fresh air you must be joking mate, she is just like her mate they love the camera and the lime light, who care’ what she has got to say, who dose she think she is.
@johnpugh920
@johnpugh920 Ай бұрын
Pity Helen Clark wouldn't mine her own business she is not the PM of nz she is a has been but can't butt out
@Kiwiadventurerandoverlander
@Kiwiadventurerandoverlander 2 ай бұрын
Iran has a right to defend itself after the consulate strike by Israel. You cannot have double standards
@NA-sj9jy
@NA-sj9jy 2 ай бұрын
Yup. Now they have. That should be the end of it. But watch the USA, and it's NATO...have far too much to say over this. I bet they attack Iran now...and escalate everything. It's what they do, it's what the UN and WEF do.
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
They sponsor terrorists . They have no rights .
@TJHofNZ
@TJHofNZ Ай бұрын
Seems you fail to recognise Iran's patronage of Hamas and the fact that they are responsible for attacks on Western ships by their proxies in Yemen.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@@TJHofNZ By that logic, Iran is also entitled to retaliate against the United States, because they sponsor the country responsible for bombing Iran's consulate building.
@Kiwiadventurerandoverlander
@Kiwiadventurerandoverlander Ай бұрын
@@TJHofNZ seem you fail to recognise that US and its proxies have been at this game for decades and the vail is now unraveling
@owenpope353
@owenpope353 2 ай бұрын
Helen I resigned from the public service after you sent you education advisers through the public services telling us how you were going to turn New Zealand society into what it is today. New Zealand made it quite clear at the last election that your actions were not acceptable in New Zealand. Leave us alone, to live in peace and harmony.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
What a lot of nonsense. She's an outstanding leader.
@aljoslin1527
@aljoslin1527 2 ай бұрын
She's a nasty peice of work ..she's complicit with China and the who
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
Exactly right, and as for her being a good leader that’s rubbish.
@yvonnecharsley297
@yvonnecharsley297 2 ай бұрын
Mr Peters has everything under control. You can step back now Helen.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
He doesn't.
@rossliggins6057
@rossliggins6057 2 ай бұрын
Mr Peters uses bullying and arrogance as his main tools Time to retire and go fishing Winnie
@paulgrimmer8501
@paulgrimmer8501 Ай бұрын
Maybe, Jack should interview you next. Your opinion wasn't asked for yet. She answered the questions she was asked. Never mentioned, let alone rubbished Winston. So, Shush.
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 Ай бұрын
winnie has been part of every failed govt in new zealand has had , including mulldoon
@brett7989
@brett7989 2 ай бұрын
I like helen clark , very intelligent and talks clearly, so many lie and twist their words
@CyberMoth_
@CyberMoth_ 2 ай бұрын
good old aunty Helen :)
@pauldenisMcdonald
@pauldenisMcdonald 2 ай бұрын
With America, as a friend, we don't need enemies. look how America treats its allies, Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc etc.. This is the national government's first step to beating our nuclear-free policy.
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
New Zealanders would be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for America .
@Didyouthinktopray
@Didyouthinktopray 2 ай бұрын
Under Trump leadership these types of wars wouldn't have escalated
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@@stewatparkpark2933 The Soviet Union played a key part in Japan's surrender as well.
@DDDrumpf
@DDDrumpf Ай бұрын
​@@stewatparkpark2933hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha.. Yes, sure!! Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha..
@randelmatt
@randelmatt 2 ай бұрын
Jack. Can you elevate the current government and opposition to talk at this intellectual level please. I felt like I actually got something out of this! At this point I cannot see vision or strategy differentiated from old models of government and cannot access view of international pressure in discussions with this new coalition government or opposition yet
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Labour has always elevated the discourse. Nats are ignorant buffoons and always have been.
@debbieclifford3693
@debbieclifford3693 Ай бұрын
Good luck with that. All this lot is doing is following America.
@jasonpoihegatama1347
@jasonpoihegatama1347 2 ай бұрын
NZ acts like its a democracy but its not in my view.
@nzSTYXnz
@nzSTYXnz 2 ай бұрын
how is it not?
@user-FUCKYOU18
@user-FUCKYOU18 2 ай бұрын
It NOT democracy country, it NEVER was
@Didyouthinktopray
@Didyouthinktopray 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-FUCKYOU18 is democracy country a free country? Would you say new zealand is or kind of is a conservative country?
@user-FUCKYOU18
@user-FUCKYOU18 2 ай бұрын
@@Didyouthinktopray it NOT free country & NOT conservative shit either. It still Royalist (commonwealth country) It still constitutional monarchy of UK It has NOT changed & we still pay royality to crown of royal family in UK
@jasonpoihegatama1347
@jasonpoihegatama1347 2 ай бұрын
@@nzSTYXnz Its the matrix's
@frederickmiles327
@frederickmiles327 2 ай бұрын
The truth is that the Arden government returned NZ to something close to an ANZUS strategic defence relationship with the US, Australia and Japan in going ahead with the P8 MPA purchase which provides considerable surveillance capability and is easily upgraded to provide powerful conventional anti ship and anti submarine deterence along with the security partnership signed with Japan which intergrates NZ with US Pacific wide cover. Aukus is a secondary agreement relating to filling gaps in USN manning of CVN and SSN and internal security and intelligence.
@greggiles7309
@greggiles7309 2 ай бұрын
What, are you suggesting we use the old planes until they Fkn crash, right, until they crash.
@frederickmiles327
@frederickmiles327 Ай бұрын
@@greggiles7309 I was always was a strong supporter of the P3 squadron and P8 acquisition. I offered myself to the RNZAF to assist in ensuring the purchase NZs most significant acquisition went ahead under the Arden Peters government. I played a role in cooperating with the RNZAF officers, journalists and Americans in making it go ahead against all odds. The P8s, their base facility and support facilities are a serious addition to ANZUS forces in the Pacific. The RNZN tanker and support ship HMNZS Aotearoa which Don McKinnon and the RNZN accepted USN advice as the most useful ship contribution NZ could make to the US and Western defence and of more than symbolic value as it equipped to refuel USN Guided missile destroyers a demanding role. I have never actually met Helen Clark deliberately missing several opportunities to meet her in the early 1980s as her left wing position would have compromised my position as a commentator and feature writer I did however discuss some issues with her on the phone and in a sense advise her and anyone else against participation in the RAN Collins sub programme which Muldoon had signed memos of understanding about. I was opposed to nuclear power not nuclear weapons at the time and it was obvious Clark was both dishonest and only interested in destroying both NZ and Australia's ANZUS relationship in 1983-84.Anzus was signed in 1951 during the Korean war by which time the US and USSR already had hundreds of nuclear weapons and the presumption of the ANZUS treaty as spelt out by Dulles in discussions about the treaty in Wellington and Canberra in 1951 was that direct physical defence provisions for NZ were not required in the age of nuclear deterrence and ANZUS and the associated and linked Radford Collins are therefore primarily about maritime surveillance zones and defence of Pacific seaplanes, airlanes and communication cables from NZ and Australia to the US and Japan and maintaining backup sea lanes south of Australia. As JF Dulles explained to the US Senate ANZUS was essentially an idealigical joint commitment to containing the 'common danger' of Russian and Chinese communism with US defence policy centred on protecting West Germany and Japan by in the Pacific developing island chain defences. ANZUS in Dulles view was the realisation of Theodore Roosevelt's plan and all US Naval planning in the first half of the twentieth century to incorporate NZ and Australia within the US Sphere of influence and under the Monroe Doctrine. And in reality in 1941,1951 and 2024 NZ and Australia are so small and defenceless we have no choice.
@greggiles7309
@greggiles7309 Ай бұрын
@@frederickmiles327 awesome. Biden needs to join TPPA for any new military alliance. NZ has been backburned for any FTA. I was in 4thG in early 1980's,
@JohanThiart
@JohanThiart 2 ай бұрын
Great interview Jack. Your guest had some great insights to share but should have stuck to geopolitics and kept her nose out of local politics. Granted, she has the right to engage with local politics. You and your guest did a good enough job. Keep up the good work.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
He asked her opinion. She's more than entitled to have a view. Pity she still isn't our pm
@JohanThiart
@JohanThiart 2 ай бұрын
@@user-sc5ol1fn6o and ex prime minister criticising the government is different from sharing an opinion of policy. Not sure why anyone who lived through the Clarke government would hanker back to a Clarke type government.
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
She was asked to comment 🤷‍♂️
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@@JohanThiart That was some of the most gentle "criticism" of the government I've ever heard. "I'm not seeing much communication between the parties" is too harsh for you?
@sleepyjoe4529
@sleepyjoe4529 Ай бұрын
Smart lady. Not another Anglo warmonger.
@jasonpoihegatama1347
@jasonpoihegatama1347 2 ай бұрын
NZ needs to vote a party to a roll with a set budget,
@DaParty3473
@DaParty3473 2 ай бұрын
Auntay makes sense
@randelmatt
@randelmatt 2 ай бұрын
Legendary
@blubidiblupp
@blubidiblupp Ай бұрын
She is so rilliant. i wish she was the German chancellor
@PrawnAddiction
@PrawnAddiction Ай бұрын
I hope her perspectives on China don't age like Merkel's did with Russia.
@arjalanarayan
@arjalanarayan 2 ай бұрын
I ,okay
@maidwairy3663
@maidwairy3663 2 ай бұрын
We need you Helen Clark, back into politics, to save NZ🙏
@user-ob8bk3ld9q
@user-ob8bk3ld9q 2 ай бұрын
Overall, very good interview. Good questions and fairly diplomatic and sage answers from Helen Clark. At the end of the day, though, we have a military in crisis and not fit for purpose in a world that is looking increasingly unstable and hostile. That is the reality, and to pretend nothing is happening and not picking an alliance, I don't think is a smart decision. Alliances like NATO or AUKCUS (Australia, United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States) is a no-brainer. Without an alliance, New Zealand is incredibly vulnerable. And why should we not contribute in a more significant way for security in our region? And exactly how are we supposed to help the Pacific if we have no workable military? To think that China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea are the alternative, which we do not align with in any shape or form - and these are the aggressors looking for greater expansion through takeover and weakness. All of which have sizeable militaries in the hundreds of thousands and produce weapons/ammunition in large quantities, etc. North Korea's population is approximately 16 million, with a military of around 1.4 million, while New Zealand has a population of 5 million and a military of around 8,000. What a joke we have become. The money it costs to set up a military could be offset by using the same force for disaster relief. The money can come from, instead obsessing on inflation, but by reducing interest rates from 8% to 3.5%. allowing the economy to recover. Billions of dollars could be used instead of lining commercial bankers' profits.
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
Does it make us vulnerable? Or does it take us out of the crosshairs pointed at the US and UK
@stephenlennon7369
@stephenlennon7369 2 ай бұрын
We're in the middle of nowhere far from rubbing up against anyone & you believe siding with the US makes us safe????
@user-ob8bk3ld9q
@user-ob8bk3ld9q 2 ай бұрын
@@jtonline99 I think you would be dreaming if you think that New Zealand can somehow avoid getting involved. A united front has more protection than a divided one. How much protection do you think the Pacific Islands will have if they do not join an alliance - do you think China will just look the other way. No, it will just take by force - like how it is now doing in the South China Sea.
@stephenbaker-lemay479
@stephenbaker-lemay479 2 ай бұрын
@@jtonline99 it’s naive to think that China only views the US and UK as their opponents, China makes deals today with the view of where they will be in 50 years, they are an old civilisation with a long term plan, NZ may wish to be neutral and if their lucky may remain so, but remaining neutral is reliant on the aggressor agreeing, if the World moves towards another Cold War, or worse, a real one, NZ may need to choose a side and that could be reliant on who will trust us, either way NZ needs to be better able to at least show a potential enemy that there will be a cost to invasion even if it’s low.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Totally naiive comment. NZcannot afford to cosy up to.the USA fights.
@tamamakamaka5102
@tamamakamaka5102 Ай бұрын
Does New Zealand need to be apart of the five eyes ? If so why
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
The data gathered by Five Eyes is unlikely to be useful to New Zealand. The point is that the US and the UK can use the data to aid with their imperialist projects. If New Zealand attempted to leave the partnership, a "regime change" operation would be carried out by the CIA, as happened in Australia in 1975.
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
Imagine John Key articulating a point of view on geopolitical issues like this, he wouldn’t even know where to begin.
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
Actually I do know how he’d begin, “ordinary kiwis are not concerned about…” blah blah blah some way to excuse the Deputy PM’s actions
@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_
@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_ 2 ай бұрын
Too right he would. Just keep flogging everything not bolted down to his Chinese overlords.
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
No doubt he'd start with.. "Aw look"
@riffraffbass
@riffraffbass Ай бұрын
So level headed. Loved this
@louisehewson7413
@louisehewson7413 Ай бұрын
The Israeli strike was on a building NEXT to the embassy, not on the embassy, and it was a targeted attack . It killed senior military of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps who were key players in planning and coordinating Iran's terror proxies in Syria and Lebanon ,who have been consistently carrying out attacks against Israel since the October massacre . Even if it had been a diplomatic building , apparently if it is being used for military purposes against a country, it loses its protection and is a lawful and legitimate target for self defense .
@debbieclifford3693
@debbieclifford3693 Ай бұрын
They bombed the consulate which legally has the same protection as an embassy, so you are talking absolute nonsense.
@user-mrwikohika
@user-mrwikohika 2 ай бұрын
Go Helen, yeahhh. Stick it to the new Govt Helen by showing your people how a proper prime minister addresses the public, political conduct with addressing international issues, and holding NZ interest on local/national/ and international progress. Helen has given a homegrown grassroots kiwi-ana number-8 wired reality check for Kiwis of the new Govt bodies vision for NZ. After hearing Helen Clark, NZ is in for a while new world of hurt. ❤ you Helen 😁
@aktraining3747
@aktraining3747 2 ай бұрын
6. NZ territory is under British Crown of powers of Sovereignty : Article 1 . The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England [sic] absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty which the said Confederation or Individual Chiefs respectively exercise or possess, or may be supposed to exercise or to possess over their respective Territories as the sole sovereigns thereof. Article 2. In consideration thereof Her Majesty the Queen of England [sic] extends to the Natives of New Zealand Her royal protection and imparts to them all the Rights and Privileges of British Subjects.
@arjalanarayan
@arjalanarayan 2 ай бұрын
Night,Coolge
@shaynalancaster1400
@shaynalancaster1400 2 ай бұрын
Great interview Jack, as usual! 😁 Helen is an inspiration of mine. She knows the know and holds it with dignity. Very greatful to have caught this one✌ Thank you both!
@RollingDeathStar
@RollingDeathStar 2 ай бұрын
Isn’t she the fool that thought it was a good idea to deprive the NZAF of its combat capability, leaving it now little more than a cargo service? Yea… she’s one to listen to about war.
@greggiles7309
@greggiles7309 2 ай бұрын
F16s are even cheaper now, lets see how they work in Ukraine, then you can make a complaint.
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
Yea America has proven what a hypocrite joke there military is ,they can't even win a war they start 😂 and us idiot kiwis get sucked into there bullshit
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
A very pragmatic decision. I wouldn't categorize it as foolish.
@RollingDeathStar
@RollingDeathStar Ай бұрын
@@tonybolstad9514 but when the Chinese come prowling around NZ waters and the Defense ministry has to go back and beg the Australians and Americans for help because they don’t have ANY air combat capability… then we decide how “pragmatic” it is.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@@RollingDeathStar Ludicrous suggestion. If China wanted to hurt New Zealand, it could just cut off trade. Why would they bother sending ships? Waste of effort.
@opww888
@opww888 2 ай бұрын
Bring back Halen
@RonKen-gk9yj
@RonKen-gk9yj 2 ай бұрын
Helen certainly a relic of a bygone era in this country, take a note out of John keys book & keep your opinions to yourself
@jame2433
@jame2433 2 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity what was it you disagreed with in this interview?
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
John Key’s opinions were well out on display during the election, but tbf I’m not surprised he doesn’t care about anything other than tax breaks and kick backs
@NA-sj9jy
@NA-sj9jy 2 ай бұрын
​@@jame2433Shes UN...she's the enemy of Humanity. She's anti-humanity. WEF, UN, WHO supporter.
@suphraphonic
@suphraphonic 2 ай бұрын
good reply she is a total closet hidden person of every angle you cant believe anything she says , after all she trained Adern !!! say no more.
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
She is currently ten times more relevant than any current nz politician. Do you have a clue about her current life? She chairs internstiinal.forums daily all around the world. She changed the WHO pandemic review. She is in anew country every day and her work is eagerly sought after.
@g_r_e_e_b_o
@g_r_e_e_b_o 2 ай бұрын
Aunty Helen would rather we were a vassal of china.
@Kiwiskirt
@Kiwiskirt 2 ай бұрын
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@JerryAlves-bd2tv
@JerryAlves-bd2tv Ай бұрын
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@DeanWhite-ng5hb Ай бұрын
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@DW_Kiwi
@DW_Kiwi 2 ай бұрын
Do you detect Helen's bias to the Left!!
@kathleencain4727
@kathleencain4727 2 ай бұрын
Were you expecting a right-wing perspective from a former Labour PM?
@DanielleA2023
@DanielleA2023 2 ай бұрын
It's clear as mud she's a leftie: intelligent informed engaged professional progressive and kind
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
@@DanielleA2023 With zero idea how to create wealth for the country .
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Nz was in a fantastic position under the Clark Cullen govt. It was booming. Nats destroy, labour booms the economy and wages.
@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj 2 ай бұрын
Nothing new
@joshdonn1606
@joshdonn1606 2 ай бұрын
Helen Clarke presided over a NZ in a totally different security environment where a global rules based order (enforced by the US) was respected by every major nation. NZ is sleep walking into a time of great global uncertainty and we need to take steps to make sure we can protect ourselves and our allies and neighbours
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Peace should always be the objective, and she she still heads has huge global influence. She chairs forums across the world constantly.
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you believe all the lies and crap America is spinning about other countries, America should f off back to America, they are the problem, America is a lying parasite who can't handle being second best 😂😂
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
There is no such thing as the "rules-based order." There is only International Law, which the "rules-based" community routinely breaks.
@MrMoony233
@MrMoony233 2 ай бұрын
A touch ironic "Aunty Helen" given the atrocities committed by the NZ SAS under your watch...
@mistersmacky
@mistersmacky 2 күн бұрын
What does NZ have to offer AUKUS? Tiny little token navy? Tiny little token army? "Air force" with no combat aircraft?
@HenriHattar
@HenriHattar Ай бұрын
NO BODY has asked N Z...they can't OFFER any thing!
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
Wrong.
@HenriHattar
@HenriHattar Ай бұрын
@@KlausBahnhof RIGHT !
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@HenriHattar US Secretary of Defence Anthony Blinken has been attempting to strike a deal with the coalition government. He met with Winston Peters on the 11th of April, and one of the subjects they discussed was AUKUS. This fact can easily be verified by reading any NZ news source. You're wrong.
@greggiles7309
@greggiles7309 2 ай бұрын
Taiwan is more useful to China as a trade poker chip.
@rod-contracts1616
@rod-contracts1616 Ай бұрын
Helen, get off to the old folks home, lecture them, they might listen. Otherwise, hush up!
@aktraining3747
@aktraining3747 2 ай бұрын
5. There are some millions of Mohammedans Arabs who are Citizens of Israel and fight for Israel
@aktraining3747
@aktraining3747 2 ай бұрын
3. Gaza is Israel , Crimea is Ukraine, Tskhinvali is Georgia, Tiraspol is Moldova.
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
Gaza is palestine, Crimea is Russia 🇷🇺 Stop believing those Yankee losers 😂
@tonygee3284
@tonygee3284 Ай бұрын
Shes on her death bed
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
Just go away . Far far away .
@HenriHattar
@HenriHattar Ай бұрын
This lady is naive. She is also dangerous because of that.
@kerrywhite4974
@kerrywhite4974 2 ай бұрын
Who cares what she thinks
@melodymacken9788
@melodymacken9788 2 ай бұрын
Her opinion is sought from all over the world.
@IvelLeCog
@IvelLeCog 2 ай бұрын
Who cares what you think, Kerry?
@dancelover558
@dancelover558 Ай бұрын
Helen Clark has long experience both as PM of NZ & as Head of UN Development role. She's a breath of fresh air who can look at implications of ditching our independent foreign policy & its implications. We desperately need such clarity right now as our Coalition of Chaos are hell bent on destruction of policies which made NZ a great place to bring up kids. Now we're being sold down the river to agendas of the Atlas Network, about which we knew nothing prior to election 23.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
Intelligent people.
@milleniumfalcon8654
@milleniumfalcon8654 2 ай бұрын
Helen's right! we 🇳🇿being led down the garden path by 🇺🇸 USUKA
@louisebrown2836
@louisebrown2836 Ай бұрын
Helen should just retire and leave us alone. She was voted out.
@peterkemp4235
@peterkemp4235 2 ай бұрын
Well done Helen.....clearly more mature than the media....!!!
@martinsamuels2897
@martinsamuels2897 Ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you Helen
@Keir2013
@Keir2013 Ай бұрын
13.15 lol 😂
@MrEtseagar
@MrEtseagar 2 ай бұрын
Imo Helen Clark as the most anti military PM we've had in recent times and has a very misleading view
@jtonline99
@jtonline99 2 ай бұрын
If only there were more world leaders like her. These territorial skirmishes have no place in 2024
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Absolute rubbish. Since when did war ever solve a thing.
@kenmckay5578
@kenmckay5578 Ай бұрын
Clark is asserting way too much about our current relationships in regard to trade and security. But what's the real purpose of interviewing HER anyway ?
@arjalanarayan
@arjalanarayan 2 ай бұрын
PhD
@georgelim3651
@georgelim3651 Ай бұрын
Jack Tame’s view of China highly tainted. He just keeps asking Helen Clark about China’s dictatorship. Yes, China is a one party government but the government has delivered a much better livelihood to its people than many countries and has the support of a big majority of its people.
@feesullivan3439
@feesullivan3439 Ай бұрын
From listening to this rather pointless dated interview. I can see why that lady got voted out. Her first point was how can the new govt do something they didn’t campaign on… lol. What the hell did labour try to push through for the last 6 years lol😅
@astroayumi1752
@astroayumi1752 Ай бұрын
Dictatorship ????? vs western barbarianism which one is more dangerous ? stop being hypocrite !
@JamesBarry-um8su
@JamesBarry-um8su Ай бұрын
Digging up Aunty Helen again 🤔 surely her views are counter productive to our needs in 2024.The Chinese are sneaking around the Pacific in nuclear subs,the aussies need our help and the 2nd pillar is New Zealands contribution.🇳🇿👍
@user-qd8yg1fp7i
@user-qd8yg1fp7i Ай бұрын
This is a real leader.
@justinpagelawrie
@justinpagelawrie 2 ай бұрын
Taiwan is part of China and has been for ~2700 years. Otherwise thank you Auntie Helen.
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
It was Japanese until 1945 . Learn a bit of history .
@justinpagelawrie
@justinpagelawrie Ай бұрын
@@stewatparkpark2933 😂
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
@@stewatparkpark2933 There you go again 😅
@dennis-qu7bs
@dennis-qu7bs 2 ай бұрын
Good to hear intelligence for a change
@wayneklenner1148
@wayneklenner1148 2 ай бұрын
But who went into Israel and slaughtered innocent babies and murdered, innocent people. Don’t forget that Helen or anybody else out there.
@user-FUCKYOU18
@user-FUCKYOU18 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@tonybolstad9514
@tonybolstad9514 Ай бұрын
Israel has just as much blood on its hands.
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
It's almost as if there might be consequences for stealing indigenous people's land and forcing them into an open-air prison. Who would have guessed?
@LordWalsallian
@LordWalsallian 2 ай бұрын
She was NZ’s PM?! She’s incredibly passive and weak. She gives me Vichy France vibes…
@pjlav6304
@pjlav6304 2 ай бұрын
Oh no no she was quite formidable. Smiling assassin's are the most deadly.
@maiap2232
@maiap2232 2 ай бұрын
How so?
@JohanThiart
@JohanThiart 2 ай бұрын
Luxon and his two deputy leaders will be fools not to consider her advice. Wise words spoken by an experienced leader!
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
One of our best ever. She is ine of our toughest and strongest.
@JGNZ616
@JGNZ616 2 ай бұрын
what a true leader Helen Clark is, unbiased, no spins, concise. NZ would be so much different if we had her being in charge.
@tonygee3284
@tonygee3284 2 ай бұрын
Looks like Clarke is the walking dead .
@ivanencinas9259
@ivanencinas9259 Ай бұрын
The unfortunate reality is that the only thing stopping a PRC invasion of Taiwan is the US military presence in the region. In addition, the possibility that Japanese and Australian forces could intervene as well complicates the feasibility of a military operation by the PRC. I understand Clark’s agreements against AUKUS, but military deterrence is what has kept the peace so far around Taiwan and the South China Sea. I agree that New Zealand shouldn’t join AUKUS. But at the same time it’s important to recognize that China does present legitimate security concerns.
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 2 ай бұрын
New Zealand needs to rearm Helen after you defanged our defence force.
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
As an ex serviceman, our military is a joke anyway 😂
@Kiwi_Dave
@Kiwi_Dave 2 ай бұрын
Time for Helen Clark to get a job and she'll have less time to whinge
@EagleEyeNZ
@EagleEyeNZ 2 ай бұрын
She's not whinging, she talking common sense. She is a very intelligent and probably one of NZ's best PMs. She looked after NZ and didn't bow down to the warmonger states of America.
@maiap2232
@maiap2232 2 ай бұрын
She’s trying to de-escalate geopolitical tensions to prevent war. Why is that considered whinging? Tax payers money and lives are at stake. Maybe you should get a job and an education
@melodymacken9788
@melodymacken9788 2 ай бұрын
I think your opinion is unfounded. Do the research then give an opinion.
@emlave7254
@emlave7254 2 ай бұрын
Anyone who worked for the UN helped this situation.
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 2 ай бұрын
She has no skills that would get her a job - apart from a taxpayer funded one of course .
@marctoleafoa5864
@marctoleafoa5864 2 ай бұрын
Bring back Buck and Helen! ❤
@tb7977
@tb7977 2 ай бұрын
you are an idiot
@odysseydesignandmarketing8091
@odysseydesignandmarketing8091 2 ай бұрын
What a surprise, a weak pacifist shares weak pacifist ideals. NZ is already seen as a joke on the world stage with regards to its 'independent foreign policy' and it is about time we started to pull our weight again. The geo-political environment in the Pacific has changed markedly and will continue to do so regardless of what NZ's desires are. But just like residential house insurance you have to be ready for the worst, so joining pillar 2 of AUKUS makes absolute sense at this point in time.
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
😂😂 and you believe what America says 😂😂😂 they can't even win a war ,so how the hell will they help us , 😂
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
Pull our weight = do exactly what the United States tells us to, just like Australia does. Independence is a strength, not a weakness.
@chrisdeason4904
@chrisdeason4904 Ай бұрын
Helen a committed WEFer, organised the parachuting in of Jacinda the horror ...
@mannix551
@mannix551 2 ай бұрын
Why doesn,t Helen Clark go the Platform she is not an elected politician anymore
@user-sc5ol1fn6o
@user-sc5ol1fn6o 2 ай бұрын
Why on earth would she give the time of day to hateful.Plunket.
@aktraining3747
@aktraining3747 2 ай бұрын
1. Israel did not attack dip[diplomatic facility
@user-bg7yb5nl6y
@user-bg7yb5nl6y 2 ай бұрын
Yes they did 😂, Jesus said beware of the false jews who come from Satan's synagogue, biggest deceivers along with America
@KlausBahnhof
@KlausBahnhof Ай бұрын
Who was responsible for the attack?
@Rosnoseros
@Rosnoseros Ай бұрын
Just keep talking about human rights, but don't smack your child or your state will get you.
@stevenbrown8157
@stevenbrown8157 Ай бұрын
Shut up Helen lol jack lame still being lame as usual
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