Helios 44m-7 buying tutorial. How to avoid SCAM!

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Detailed explanation how to distinguish genuine helios 44m-7 from a fake one.
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@Dravde 3 жыл бұрын

One should also check the year of production. Genuine 44M-7 will have the production number that starts with 91 or a bigger number, referencing the year of production.

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

yes, exactly thanks for your input

@jonlouis2582 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I will just avoid fakes by continuing to buy from your ebay store.

@jpcalamaro961 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful material. Concise and to the point. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Ni5ei Жыл бұрын

You say they started production in 1991 and I have seen lenses with serial numbers starting with 96 so that would mean 5 years of production, not just 1 or 2 years. Also, the lenses from 94 and later have a plastic name ring that's clipped in instead of a metal ring with 2 holes that's screwed in.

@Von_McKnelly 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great info sir.

@ZisDimitris4444 Жыл бұрын

Again a very informative presentation,thank you again,i appreciate it 👍📷📢!

@stevocem 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video, thank you.

@stefanjr 3 жыл бұрын

Great! Thx! I also noticed another difference: On 44m-7 the barrel around the rear optics has no grooves (only the fitting ring for the rear optics has). On for example 44m both barrel AND fitting ring has grooves.

@miriammoriarty8588 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou, this is very helpful.

@sebsyoutubechannel4252 3 жыл бұрын

YES you made the video thank you! :)

@d30gaijin 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Very informative.

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@messylaura 3 жыл бұрын

excellent video.

@cheesepoorger 3 жыл бұрын

thank you comrade

@TheSuphan 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You

@akbunny5221 3 жыл бұрын

thank you .......

@arboldechorizos 4 ай бұрын

is it possible for the front ring to NOT have the unscrewing holes? i see in your video both genuine lenses with and without the holes

@chicobraz4335 2 жыл бұрын

Great video ! Do all the Helios 44-2 to 44-7 have same optical design and glass sizes and parts ? Also which version has least swirls ( I heard 6 and 7 have best image and least swirls )

@himangshumahanta5398 Жыл бұрын

There is no difference in swirls between the Helios 44 range.

@liscvideo Жыл бұрын

@@himangshumahanta5398yes there is

@timelesstimekeeper4444 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, first of all thank you for great quality videos, have learned a lot. I have bought Helios 44m-7 year 94. I guess its a fake one. Still I want to use it and fix it. It seems that spring that moves aperture blades in their position is not strong enough to close aperture (it works with a bit of help) - so it would be good to clean and lubricate it first. Also focusing ring is hard to turn. The problem is that front ring does not have those 2 holes to put something in(like caliper) and turn it. I can rotate it with fingers about 30degrees, then it does not rotate anymore. I tried to turn with rubber gasket around front ring, but still does not turn more than 30 degrees. Now thinking about drilling 2 holes in front ring for caliper as the last resort. Your advice would be much appreciated.

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

i think there aare pair of clips that hold that plastic ring onto it's place

@chesiq_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@RetroFotoHouse I have an exact same lens, is the plastic front ring a giveaway that it's a fake lens?

@Ni5ei Жыл бұрын

If the serial number starts with 94, how can it be fake? There were no other 44M-x lenses produced in 94. Also, the later production models have a plastic front ring without holes. This was done to cut costs.

@kris.krustev 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Would it be possible make a buying guide for the different versions/types of the 44m modification?

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8qbp6R6ptuwd2g.html

@menelaospolitis1226 2 жыл бұрын

THX! I hope I have a legit one. Are there different focus rings? My focus ring is like the one on 1:42 min.

@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын

i think yes, though this kind of focus ring is not very common

@loltraders9452 22 күн бұрын

My one does not have the small holes in the front ..rest all I checked is alright….is it genuine?

@kaneda8625 8 ай бұрын

In your opinion what version is the best? 44-2, 44-3 etc or? I read the best is the 44-2 for its magic

@markashworth983 2 жыл бұрын

Good video! What is a reliable place where I could buy an authentic copy of this lens?

@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын

well, you can seek on ebay, using my video as manual

@xXBlackHawk1912Xx 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, i have an early version of the Helios 44 in silver and with an m39 mount. But instead of the usual 13 blades for this model, it has 8. Can you tell my what this could mean?

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

it is normal. Both versions exist. 13 blades and 8 blades.

@dopexmc7901 2 ай бұрын

is there something going on with the 44-2 as well? and if so how can you be sure you have a authentic one?

@TheXxPSYCHO 2 жыл бұрын

Love how his intos are loud af then he's whisper quiet with random loud mic plosives

@sneakingelephant 2 жыл бұрын

Is buying from the Helios lens site get legitimate copies?

@razbiton173 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I found 44 m7 that doesn’t have those 2 holes before the HELIOS font and factory symbol marking. Is it fake?

@jianchenglu6584 Жыл бұрын

i found the similar ones too

@federicomuciaccia9191 3 жыл бұрын

I have the right font height, but the front plate is missing the two little holes to unscrew it. is it normal?

@federicomuciaccia9191 3 жыл бұрын

and another strange thing is this: the front plate turns completely, but cannot exit in any way. it's endlessly unscrewing...

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

yes, this is normal. You have the latest version, to make production costs lower, they decided to make plastic front ring with a clips instead of thread

@federicomuciaccia9191 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for the reply :) and where are the clips located? how can I remove the from plate?

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

with plate screwdriver you need to pick it up from below

@federicomuciaccia9191 3 жыл бұрын

thank you! I'll try it soon ;)

@alexblaze8878 Жыл бұрын

This implies the 44m-4 is bad? I have that version and I love it! Can anyone tell me why the implication that the 44m-4 isn’t good?

@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын

It is not bad, but you're buying 44m-7 wich is more expensive than 44m-4, isn't it?

@tunaelbas3441 3 жыл бұрын

Hello RFH Can you make a video about lubrication of INDUSTAR 61 L/Z? Mine is getting sticky :( and Aperture is oily I found some russian articles about how to do it but I don't speak Russian and translation is not good. Also it's hard to understand

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

Will come in the future for sure

@vincenzotarantini8161 3 жыл бұрын

So, if I get well, the main difference in the front is the shape of “O”, the original one has a “O” with square angles; correct?!

@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын

yes, one of the main differencies

@robfontenot6439 2 жыл бұрын

Look closely at the number "2" on the front ring... The difference is subtle, but once you recognize it, it's one of the easiest ways to spot if the forgery is based on a non-original front ring swap.

@steven1811 2 жыл бұрын

I picked up a 44-7 the other day from a yard sale. The serial number starts with 82. I hope this isn't a fake.

@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын

you need to watch attentively my video to understand which one is a fake

@yuriythebest 5 ай бұрын

-What is the advantage of converting 44m's to 44m-7s and selling them? They cost around the same and the image quality is according to taste. I've been able to get beautiful images from my 44m -The easiest way to avoid a scam I think is to buy a helios+zenit combo

@RetroFotoHouse 5 ай бұрын

No, helios 44m-7 is more rare and therefore more expensive one