The bible is not really about morality or 'Good and Evil' how we understand it. It is just a manual to practice detachement. Only through detachment you will be able to 'see the Light'. (and real concentration of course!) The 'Light' has been called God, Hell, whatever... all these 'definitions' were put on it AFTER these searchers came back and could THINK about it. DURING their 'stay' in the Light there is no Good, there is no Evil, there are no thoughts or feelings, there are no angels or demons,... there is only Light. This is the lesson: "YOU are there to see it. Even though you saw 'yourself' be 'destroyed' moments ago." When you 'return' to the world, YOU see 'yourself' be created again. That is the lesson. You are not what you think you are. YOU are free from good and evil, guilt and shame,... those are the illusions put unto you.

Upon death, we turn to Shades. It’s our id/ego, good or bad don’t matter. We forget everything over a span of time determined by random factors not yet understood. Shades are forgetful, selfishly-driven, uninterested, and uninteresting to the living. They’re fascinating, but not worth spending too much of LIFE bothering to interact with. And you’ll learn very very little from them ever.

I’ll take the big Mac meal

Telling children they could get hit by a bus is child abuse.

​@@andrewferg8737One is an accident. And the other is an inescapable eternal punishment for a flawed and finite life.

@@adrianaslund8605 "inescapable eternal punishment" --- God is existence in and of Himself. To be without God is to not exist. That is inescapable and eternal. Are you suggesting an alternative to existence in and of itself by which you could exist? "in Him we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17) "those who war against You shall be as nothing, as a nonexistent thing” (Isaiah 41) "Let them be blotted out of the book of the living" (Psalm 69) "behold, he was no more; Indeed I sought him, but he could not be found” (Psalm 27) "the wicked shall see and be grieved; he will gnash his teeth and waste away" (Psalm 112)

@@adrianaslund8605 "inescapable eternal" --- God is existence in and of Himself. To be without God is to not exist. That is inescapable and eternal. There is no alternative. "in him we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17) "let them be blotted out of the book of the living" (Psalm 69) "they shall be as nothing, as a nonexistent thing” (Isaiah 41) "the wicked shall see and be grieved; he will gnash his teeth and waste away" (Psalm 112) "they will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8) "this state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called hell... The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God" (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

@@adrianaslund8605 "inescapable eternal" --- God is existence in and of Himself. To be without God is to not exist. That is inescapable and eternal. There is no alternative. "in him we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17) "let them be blotted out of the book of the living" (Psalm 69) "they shall be as nothing, as a nonexistent thing” (Isaiah 41) "the wicked shall see and be grieved; he will gnash his teeth and waste away" (Psalm 112) "they will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8) "this state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called hell... The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God" (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

@@mai7201x Honestly South Park just had two of the best jokes about hell I have seen The silver medal being comparing Limbo to a plane stuck on a runaway, and then when it finally takes off, it immediately lands at the gates of Hell, which is a Towing Gate.

The Bible speaks of hell as a real / actual place of final torment for those who reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You might want to read every word before you make silly comments

The myth of heroin addiction was developed to use the "Carrot and stick" technique.

Bible says immortality is a gift given by Jesus Christ to believers. How do unbelievers become immortality?​@@acsberean4092

And it still works despite the fact that the second coming is a no show for over two thousand years.

@@acsberean4092you must not have listened to the video

^vaxxed

It's really telling how apologists arguments typically come down to them not wanting to go to hell more(in some cases I've seen at least) than wanting to go to heaven.

In my former childhood cult, United Pentecostals, many of us weren't living for Jesus. We were living to avoid hell. What a miserable way to live!

@@jeffreyp1855 you live for Jesus now?

@@MrGreekBlade , nope! I am an agnostic / atheist.

I feel the same

That’s because the god of the Old Testament sounds a lot like the devil, so maybe that was hell

@@MrFireman164 .... This goes a bit more deeper....in the beginning.... There was nothing and only one God was roaming around aimlessly..... He then created things.... Among these, he also created evil..... Since evil existed before humans (as per the shit story). This means God created evil!

@@schnellster1 I know so many people who are terrified of hell, i was told at 13 years old that I would go to hell If I wasn’t saved… save from whom ? The devil? Nope from god.

@@MrFireman164 😂😂😂...the era where the Soviets stoked feminism as a propaganda...in comparision to all such things...this God and hell narration is so top notch that ...even logically inclined minds in this scientifically advanced world are strangely dumbed down to accept this narrative...hats of to the guy who did this mumbo jumbo!

Zooarastarianism

Absolutely.

Big problems in Japan over this, Prime Minister got shot!

I would hope that such a person would say, “Given that the first principle of justice when sentencing any guilty party is that the punishment must fit the crime, the idea of anyone enduring cruel, sadistic, and eternal torments as recompense for temporal offenses is without question the most outrageous moral perversion ever perpetrated on the masses.

@@BrianForTheWin That seems like exactly what he would have said when applying to law school, and it's as perfectly _textbook_ as it is theo-rhetorically sound. On the actual topic of his statements regarding "A Thousand Hells...", however, this was spoken at the end of his life after decades of practice. Imagine being the person who knows the difference between pledging and ordaining knowledge on such a complex topic. (Unless your heart sinks, you don't get it.) Our conversation at the time began under a more esoteric context, and it's not actually "his" unique conclusion. He was paraphrasing a Buddhist parable that also serves as testament to the inherent suffering that results from fearing eternal damnation for temporal or circumstantial offences.

One More Paraphrasing of His Brilliance: _"The world is always warning about the ongoing war between "Good" and "Evil", but know also that a victory for either will be nothing more or less than a murder/suicide for both"_ . (Isaiah 45:7)

@@BrianForTheWin …. You have the opportunity to accept eternal life as a GIFT, for free no matter what you did. This is what God offers you.. YOUR CHOICE!!

​@@DA-yd2ny I'm not convinced any god(s) exist. I am convinced the god of the bible doesn't exist tho. But I'll take that "free" eternal life as long as I can renege anytime I see fit. Eternity might get boring or depressing.

The law of attraction is nonsensical 😂

"hyper-conservative Roman Catholic" --- That is a contradiction, of course. “one who despairs despises My mercy, making his sin to be greater than mercy and goodness… See, therefore, that this sin alone leads him to hell… for at death when the worm of conscience sleeps no longer, but is gnawing at you, while the devils shout and render to you the reward which they are accustomed to give their servants, that is to say, confusion and condemnation, it is because they wish to bring you to despair” (St. Catherine of Siena “Dialogue: 31. Of the death of sinners” c.1370 AD) "Jesus spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and never lose heart" (Luke 18) "we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe" (1 Timothy 4) "who against all hope, believed in hope" (Romans 4) “we are saved by hope” (Romans 8) "In hope, the Church prays for all men to be saved" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1821) Peace be with you.

A demon accessed and implanted an illusion.

WTF@@migtvill

​@@buzzwordy9951Try to understand that demons are outside the time illusion. A burn is an illusion. They are being playful. A burn is heavy depending on time. But it's a hack to impose an insurance of deep through from a higher dimension. Don't get it? Then stay shortform. Both ways work but I promise you, you will see it

​@@buzzwordy9951Sorry, i was sleepy when I wrote it. A concept of the matrix is physical trauma is induced by demonic entities as reality is in the clutches of evil beings. I am of the mind that we are in a sub reality to a higher civilization which has an evil side casting this illusion of life, which is very painful and real enough. But there are other more real places out there. I am sorry about the story of this child. It's just when I step back far enough, I can see a lot at work and the day that family will wake up, on the other side, and where this nightmare with those scars, will have faded.

Screw your empy threats of hell empty promises of heaven. There is no god and all religions are no more than sick iron age tales. Also there is no magic so how can practitioners be sent to hell - another of many mistakes in the bible.

But many people believed in hell before the greeks the cat predates the greeks.

It is difficult to determine how Greek myths functioned in its earlier periods because we have few records. What we have a lot of records of are philosophers challenging Greek myths in various ways. But even Thales who is often considered „the first scientist“ put forth the idea that „the Gods live in material“ and give it its properties. Such as Magnetic stones, or various metals like Mercury etc. Thales explanation is written by Aristotle and is where we get the word Animism from „de Anima“ the title of the book. But it is a mistake to think that these philosopher „scientists“ were somehow atheistic, not in the least. They developed more and more abstract notions of God, or the forces ar play in the universe. Aristotle for example wrote extensively about daimons. But there appears to have been similar trends in Judaism, for example Isaiah had a very abstract transcendent notion of God, and in that narrative he ridicules idol worshippers in a similar way that the Greek philosophers did. Heraclitus proposal an invisible central order or truth of the universe, the Logos. What happens in Christianity, is Jesus is then designated as the full embodiment of the Logos, and is the Logos. But early Christians also believed Socrates and Heraclitus also spoke the Logos but were not the embodiment of the full Logos. The Greek philosophies would seem like a religion to modern people, not science, a very abstract religion, but that is why a strand of it naturally merged and evolved into Christianity and becomes very idolatrous within a few hundred years.

@TupacMakaveli1996 yes that's the one. And the book is by the same guy, Chris Date.

The Bible clearly teaches that there is a place of eternal torment for those who reject Jesus as Lord and Savior.

​@@acsberean4092 and you're going there yourself

​@@matheusmuylart2597 Sorry, but I repented of my sin 56 years ago and received Jesus as my Lord and Savior. He promised to never leave or forsake me.

@@acsberean4092 wrong church, buddy

This is exactly the kind for thinking I do. I am a Good Witch who believes in a creator and not just because of being a Christian in the past. But I don't believe in a creator who is willing to let his children suffer for all eternity because that's like giving his children a toy which the world is our toy in this sense then rips it away from us then goes over board and sends us to torture. Religious people always think me horrible for thinking this way and even if I can't always answer them properly I'm honestly glad now not to because frankly a lot of them only want to hear one word and that's Jesus is the way even though most of them don't even follow his teachings either. I have many atheist in my group of friends and family but it doesn't scare me any longer where they are going because they are good people and that to me is enough. Death is the great impossible we all will reach one day but no matter where it takes me next or doesn't I am so grateful to live this life. It's so hard right now too yet I can still say I'd still never give this life up for anything.

After long enough time in hell you get used to it

One never gets used to burning in hell. It's torment for eternity.

@@aaronhicks6019 that isn't what I'm saying at all. One would not be the same one that first went to Hell after only about a few hundred years

What are your thoughts about the after life and evil people now? Not debating just asking. I don't have an answer. It's problematic. If everything presumably happens within Gods will then what could God do with the evil despots. Secondly, despots vs those who lived decent in terms of reward No after life solves it of course but I think it exists. Nothing means there's no point to even trying. I've heard that countered with it matters in terms of what we leave. That has a wide margin of error though person by person. ​And ghosts do exist so that's another detail. @@leafe-lu3jd

Vicar of Dibley

You were never a Born-Again Christian.

​@@acsberean4092 Oh my goodness, the most horrible cliché judgment that there is. You sound like you're God himself, who was totally involved in my painful process over the past years. Apparently you know it all. But I will tell you one thing: If I was never a truly born-again Christian, then I think nobody can be a Christian at all, because Jesus was my whole life.

@@ReligieVrij Actually, Jesus is the one who said it. You were maybe a believer, just like the demons in hell and Judas (James 2:19), but not a receiver. You called yourself a Christian, but you were not Born-Again, for if you were, you would have continued as one. You turned your back on the Creator of all things, who is Love, and gave Himself as a ransom and the final sacrifice for your sin. (Matt 20:28; 1 John 2:19,4:10) “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I NEVER knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Matt 7:21-23) It is clear that your heart has become hardened, your ears cannot hear, and you have closed your eyes-so your eyes cannot see, your ears cannot hear, your heart cannot understand, and you cannot turn to Jesus and let Him heal you (Matt 14:15). There is a way back through repentance because "if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).

@@acsberean4092 I used the exact same bible verses and kind of reasoning to other people, so I can’t blame you. I forgive you and I don’t need the love of Jesus for that. That said, know that there are debates about this topic once saved always saved. Your view is just one view. Every camp has their bible verses to point to.

@@ReligieVrij When a person becomes Born-Again, their spirit, mind, and Body become the Temple of God, the Holy of Holies. Jesus promised to NEVER leave or forsake them. That means if they could somehow walk away from Jesus after becoming Born-Again, He would remain with them for all eternity.

Psychologically that's true.

Reads pretty much like revenge fantasy p*rn, especially since he included contemporaries and historical figures he didn't like all getting tortured.

Did you ever play the PS3 game? I thought it was really cool. It even has the full poem with cool music and maybe it was narrated but i could be misremembering that

​@GameTimeWhy I played a little of the 360 I believe version it was pretty good. The game developers did excellent in recreating Dantes Inferno.

😂

In a comment above, I describe how I went through a very traumatic struggle to leave Christianity in the early 1980's. What drove me into this very traumatic struggle is because of how Christians say you have free will. But, then with such insane, blatant hypocrisy, Christians say you either have to serve their angry god or serve satan and then be tortured forever in a fiery burning hell, with no second chance to be "saved" after death or taking the 666 mark of the beast! As if that is not bad enough, Christians also say if you do not worship their angry god, then you have to worship someone or something else as your "gods". It is absolutely impossible to get Christians to see and understand these insane, crazy contradictions! Even though I have been a member of the Freedom from Religion Foundation since 1983, and the leader of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, Dan Barker is a former preacher who is today one of the most famous atheists today, I still often have these very traumatic feelings of the Christian hell being real and how the angry Christian god is going to judge me and eternally punish me, and because of how I was not born into a Christian family, this angry Christian god is going blame me and hold me responsible for I could not convert my family and friends to what was my "born again" Christian fundamentalist insanity, during the years of when I was a Christian! These traumatic feelings often still come down upon me, especially when I read about people who claim to have visited the Christian hell in near-death experiences! It often angers me how Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union are not doing anything about eternal torture in a fiery burning hell, and also how according to the Christian fundamentalists, we have to either serve their angry god or serve satan, and you have to worship! If I sound like a crazy crackpot, then I have to admit being an ex-Christian is just as much a hard struggle as being a recovered alcoholic! Throw the golden calf in the garbage can, because I don't want to worship any 'gods"! Since you are a former Baptist Fundamentalist preacher, I admit I sent you this reply for someone for whom I can relate to about religious trauma.

Christ is Lord! He is Risen! All Glory to God! Yeshua my Lord!

I can relate to what you wrote. Thank you for sharing

@kthalma999 "that still small voice" I remember hearing that phrase from the pulpit time and time again and I remember using it from the pulpit time and time again. 😆 It is interesting how much of the Christian belief system is just passed on catch phrases like that.

Upon death, we turn to Shades. It’s our id/ego, good or bad don’t matter. We forget everything over a span of time determined by random factors not yet understood. Shades are forgetful, selfishly-driven, uninterested, and uninteresting to the living. They’re fascinating, but not worth spending too much of LIFE bothering to interact with. And you’ll learn very very little from them ever.

There is. They are going to Hell.

Your first mistake was in believing any book written by a person who dreamed the contents. Not unlike another better-known volume where prophets made their proclamations after hearing inner voices, or experiencing visions and those pesky dreams... a book that has dominated untold millions since it was first cobbled together.

@@gregoryboyd7176 Well, being 13 years old with no critical thinking skills because of growing up in a pentecostal home, it's not that easy. I also truly believed in hell even before I read the book. It just confirmed what I thought to be true, and expanded on it.

@@notanemoprog😂😂😂😂😂

@@ring-tone278 I'm so scared. Go rant in a corner instead.

Yep. If you're not at approved locations at approved times, & stay there for an hour once a week the Sky Wizzard gets so angry he tortures you in a lake of fire FOREVER!! 😂 I think God needs a girlfriend. He's got way too much time on his hands. And, he needs to work on his forgiveness issues. Imagine caring that much about what other's do & think. 😂

​@danmurray1143 I can imagine it and it would drive me crazy.

Part of the problem with what you have just written, is you apparently believe that eternity has to do with time. You have conflated eternity with everlasting, as have many, but the words have too different meanings and this was understood by early Christians. Eternity has nothing to do with time, as it is transcendent of time. When the Greeks used the word eternity, (Aeon) they meant “the fullness of time.” That is to say, Eternity is the past, present and future all being experienced at once. And as Joseph Campbell explained: „Eternity isn't some later time. Eternity isn't even a long time. Eternity has nothing to do with time. Eternity is that dimension of here and now that all thinking in temporal terms cuts off. The experience of eternity right here and now, in all things, whether thought of as good or as evil, is the function of life.“ But to get the point across as far as early Christians, St. Augustine explained, something is eternal if it exists in a timeless, unchanging state. So eternal truths are unchanging and are not in, or influenced by, time. This is a strand of Platonist thought in Christianity. The ideal is not the real. The ideal is transcendent of the real, and yet is the kernel of which the real is derived from. So with this change of definition is there „eternal damnation“. I would say allegorically yes. I am writing this in a hotel room in Hamburg. A severely depressed friend was suppose to arrive. He never showed up and talked to him over the phone for 3 hours. He said he had a panic attack on the train platform, because he was afraid that he would arrive in Hamburg and when he gets here I would reject him and he would loose our friendship and he was afraid of being abandoned and facing rejection one more time. But in this neurosis he is going through he himself is abandoning his friendships, and he is abandoning himself, and rejecting himself. He is traveling through hell, repeating the same pattern. And the hell feels eternal, where the past, the present and future are conflated and conceived of in a very negative way. But what is the source and origin of this? In scientific terms perhaps his amygdala is irritated so he repeats a trauma, but this material reductionist view tells us next to nothing of the experience. We talked on issues and he felt a little better. But the point is we often experience various hells and Heavens while we are alive. Did Dante understand this. Of course he did. IMO there is some evidence that in the modern period there has been an increase religious literalism not a decrease. Part of the issue are reactionary groups, but part of the issue is the fact that fewer people understand how allegory and poetry functions.

@matthewkopp2391 We all know what the word eternity means. And it's not what you just said. 😆 The Bible has been translated hundreds of times. The word eternity keeps being selected because that is precisely what the ancient authors meant to convey. Eternal Hell was used to scare people into compliance & it worked. You're in a cult Matt. They have terrified you into believing in a Sky Wizzard. You have been brainwashed into believing in silly ancient myths.

does anyone get out of hell? if not then it's a never ending punishment. Call it eternity or everlasting. it is still never ending.@@matthewkopp2391

It really messed me up as a teen, like Derek said the attention to detail and creativity in the torture (it’s probably pretty ridiculous and poorly written if I read it as an adult not attached to Christian indoctrination) in that garbage book literally gave me nightmares, I’m sure her book was a best seller at the time

she's not the only one this is the first ive heard of Mary k Baxter..but i have read a lot of material those are just to instil fear

Don’t be deceived by the adversity. The scriptures don’t teach us hell is torture for all time. We fear the Lord not bc of hell but bc of his Goodness. His awesomeness

Bill Wiese's story also put me in a mental state of turmoil at that same time. @@mai7201x

I’m almost tempted to say that a person should be jailed for writing such filth. It’s so unjust for a person to have that kind of power with words - where they are destroying peoples minds with fear and nightmares.

Indeed. The "god of love"!!!!

You must’ve come to that conclusion after studying the bible thoroughly, I hope

@@DA-yd2ny I've studied the bible extensively and found it to be full of contradictions and inconsistencies.

@@mai7201x "So many people want to live on forever"... and in the name of that wishful thinking they carry out all sorts of vile actions here and now on OTHERS... humanity is really a turpitude.

Same here. Never really believed in it even when I was a Christian.

The Bible speaks of Hell as a real/actual place and not a concept.

"hell is preposterous"--- God is existence in and of Himself. To be without God is to not exist. That is inescapable and eternal. There is no alternative. "in him we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17) "let them be blotted out of the book of the living" (Psalm 69) "they shall be as nothing, as a nonexistent thing” (Isaiah 41) "the wicked shall see and be grieved; he will gnash his teeth and waste away" (Psalm 112) "they will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8) "this state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called hell... The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God" (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

@acsberean4092 yeah and the Lord of The Rings talks about Mordor and there's about the same level of evidence for both. Zero

@andrewferg8737 I'm without God and I exist. I presume you don't believe Hades and Valhalla exist? Why not?

Have you heard the story about heaven and hell and the 10 foot chopsticks?

God is love brother. The more you remind yourself of this the easier it is to dismiss and dispel all notions of eternal conscious torment for his children. Peace.

The notion of an eternal torture in Hell is immoral, illogical and infantile. As it's illogical, it is easily disproven (unless one believes in a Satanic god).

@@corbentaylor7825 if that's the case then what is love?

What does a belief in hell have to do with civil liberties? Everyone is allowed to believe what they want to believe in a free society. I don't believe in hell but if I were to tell someone else that they can't believe in hell I'd be infringing on their civil liberties. The job of civil liberties organizations is to protect people from government abuse, not tell them what to think.

I was JW too and hell is one thing they actually got right

No birthday parties and no birthday presents to celebrate your birthday and no December Holiday Season celebrations and Holiday Season presents? As an adult, do you now feel you were robbed of your childhood?

No birthday parties and no birthday presents, no December Holiday Season celebrations and no Holiday Season presents? As an adult today, do you feel you were robbed of your childhood?@@cygnustsp

@@rosskardon7195 Yes. Sitting in the school library during parties felt like a punishment. No holidays when all of the other family members (cousins, aunts, uncles) invited us to celebrate with them and we had to decline. That’s hard on a child. It’s now nice to have the freedom to do what I please.

I never heard of it. I'll have to read it sometime.

@@debrapaulino918 it’s an interesting book, it actually started my fascination with horror

Huzzah!

Very nice work done here

You nailed it

I agree with you but why do you think the descriptions of hell were made to be more vivid?

There’s also 100x more stories of people going to heaven then hell. And everyone’s hell story is not the same

I didn't know either and I was in stitches after the Lutheran one. MacDonald is a great storyteller

These NDE people were taken too. NDE - LINDA S.: "The wrathful, vengeful God, as taught by my religion, instilled in me a deep fear of God, death, and the afterlife. The NDE transformed me, showing that God is only a loving God, WHO DOES NOT JUDGE AND PUNISH. THERE IS NO HELL or evil. I knew I was in the arms of a being who cherished me with PERFECT LOVE and carried me from the dark void into a new reality. There was no place that God did not exist and I was within God. I am an inseparable part of the light. THE TRUTH OF WHO I AM, INDEED, WHO WE ALL ARE, IS PERFECT LOVE as a creation of God. I had spent a lifetime of fear of judgment and now, standing with God, I HAD BEEN KNOWN COMPLETELY AND FOUND FAULTLESS. I KNEW GOD REGARDED ME AS PERFECT. Finally it all made sense. God could only love me because God is only love, nothing other than love. All is as it is supposed to be. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE IS OUR TRUE NATURE." Another Christian...and notice, again.... NDE - ROBYN C.: "I KNOW THERE IS NO JUDGEMENT OR HELL. I just know whatever form God takes, he loves us and welcomes us. I felt an overwhelming sense of complete bliss and contentment. I could see the light ahead of me and felt drawn to it, but I was moving slowly and enjoying the wondrous sensations I felt. Since my experience, I have been certain there is a God, but this is different to what I had believed as a Christian." Again, no "hell" and no judgement.... NDE - JASON H.: "I now know that there is a life after death. I NOW KNOW THAT THERE IS NO HELL. In that overwhelming radiating loving light, I met a glowingly beautiful, very loving being. His loving presence completely surrounded me, and together we went through my life and all that I had experienced, IN A LOVING WAY, NOT ANY JUDGING WAY." Very consistent... NDE - JASON J.: "After my NDE, I walked right out of the catholic church. Everything I was taught and told was a complete lie. THERE IS NO HELL, THERE IS NO SIN, THERE IS NO JUDGEMENT ON YOU WHATSOEVER. You are loved unconditionally. For all those still in the dark, they will have negative reactions to this." Yet again, no "hell" and can't be separated.... NDE - GORDON S.: "THERE IS NO 'heaven' and no 'HELL'. I am just now accepting that part of my purpose for coming back is to help other people awaken to the simple truth: WE ARE LOVE, we are part of God, and WE CANNOT EVER BE SEPARATED FROM GOD. The knowing that we are all inter-connected makes it easy for me to accept people, just as they are." Again, no "hell" and no reward.... NDE - STEVE L.: "THERE IS NO heaven or HELL. THERE IS NO "REWARD" FOR A "GOOD LIFE". Our careers, mistakes, money, etc., mean nothing. I soon realized I did not have my body, and that I was surrounded by consciousness. EVERYTHING IS JUST TOTAL LOVE. There was consciousness that came to me in the form of people I recognized. We join the pure consciousness at the time of leaving our body, and we are all one." Notice, he clearly understood.... NDE - DOUG F.: "IT WAS CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE IS NO heaven or HELL. Every part of the universe was part of me, and every part of me was part of the universe. THERE WAS COMPLETE INCLUSION AND ACCEPTANCE. This was so far beyond any expectation. Another realization came to me. Everything is known, and there is nothing to learn. Life on earth is not a school, there is nothing to learn. LIFE ON EARTH IS JUST AN EXPERIENCE. NOTHING MORE. As I was guided back, first into the 4th dimension, I could feel the expanded awareness shutting down. THIS LIFE IS ABOUT EXPERIENCE THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE TRULY ARE."

@@ros6111 exactly! When the stars have burned out I was left alone and the void with my resistance. As soon as I released it, then I passed through the veil and perceived that the void was not dark but completely filled with the brightest light imaginable. The light of unconditional love permeated everything, was everything, all things that ever were or will be. I can still feel it

The Catholics didn't invent the doctrine of hell, Jesus spoke of it himself! This is nothing more than another gospel to tickle the ears of those who have little faith which is exactly what the prophecy says

​@@onejohn2.26.Jesus and his father are burning 🔥 in hell for their sins against mankind.❤

Egyptians are the first Your heart gets weighed

@@RyanDavis-zg2bw did you know that you will be judged by every word that comes out of your mouth?

@@onejohn2.26. Judge jury executioner is here, g-d for nothing can be hidden from him, he knows everything you do before you do it, no lies can be hidden, everything manifest before him. The vatican never had me fooled once, you do not have be a rocket science to figure this all of this out.

As real as you want it to be, actually

Proof, please.

Sadly not. You see, our spirit is drawn from our bodies by the suns light, or gods light if you will. Unfortunately in this era there's something else in the heavens that falsely gives off the suns light (the moon) and this is where most people end up and it is not heaven. @@notanemoprog

None believers usually end up seeing it for themselves, I wont waste my time.@@gleanerman2195

Paul argues differently than James that salvation does not come from good works but from faith. He was not against good deeds but believed good deeds came out of faith. Where as James believed in good deeds whether you had faith or not. The difference is belief in a strict Mosaic law, where you obey the law, or faith were the law is natural obeyed because you are more spiritually evolved. But in Christianity, there are people who believe that salvation is entirely hinged on faith in Jesus alone. And this is a huge political thing because many liberal churches adopted the social gospel philosophy of good deeds, while many conservative “faith alone”philosophy. So Paul is in hell and realizes his philosophy was flawed it was good deeds after all.

@@matthewkopp2391 oooh, now it makes perfect sense, thank you a lot!

@@Viky.A.V. now tell us if you laughed or not

@@radscorpion8 of course I did =D