Half the community sees the world only in melodrama

@@Shadow-sword it seems like it, doesn't it? There are more then 5 days to go, with the weekend ahead...

@@riggsngrimworkshop Good one! Had a laugh reading through your pathetic commentary. Please do us ALL a favor and gtfo now!

@@riggsngrimworkshopChud reported to democracy officer for dissent.

​@@riggsngrimworkshopwhy do you think its dying there are more than 30k active players all time on the game which is quite a lot. If you think its because 'theres 90% less players than on launch day' then ill break it down for ya. Every single game will start with a large amount of players at launch and then drop in player count. Its always the case. Hd2 is nowhere near extinction.

Kinda off topic here. This popped up in my head when I read "feels like nothing is happening". Someone recommended that it be nice to actually see the SEAF Team on the planets (alive or not) to kinda get the feeling that your making a difference.

It’s not bugged, Aesir Pass has a higher decay rate that Matar Bay, so it’ll be harder to liberate.

@@GlitchUnlimited Not see just see them maybe do something i dont wana see things that does not help

@@turboturkey7236 And currently, its resistance is -1.5% and we are over it with the 3.871%. Taking time, but we are STILL starting.

As I recall, this is more or less by design. The devs stated that the galactic war as a whole will go a lot slower compared to HD1

Yeah, they need to bring some armor perks that reduce that. Bots on helldive is a rag doll simulator. It can be both funny and frustrating at the same time. With bugs, it's a cleaner gameplay and more consistent.

Currently around 62% of Helldivers are at the Automaton front, 35% on Terminid front. Hmm... I think we have enough.

@@breldredtheemperorThe problem is when there’s a bug MO, we only have 10% of people still on bots.

@@FriesGuyy That be true, but the resistance of planets is a thing. Currently, we're focusing on taking Aesir Pass as it's resistance is -1.5%, and we have pushed with 4%, and it will take, potentially less, a day to liberate. And we got like five days. If that's the case on what I am seeing with the companion app, I have no doubts about this one as long we continue to push, and it will drastically change in the weekend coming. We got enough on the bot side anyways. Now there's 63% of Helldivers at their front.

@@breldredtheemperorYeah I get that. It’s just that I’m annoyed about the huge difference in numbers depending on the faction for the MO.

@@FriesGuyy Yea, but I get how the ones focused on just doing the bug front feel, bots can be a pain... They can't adapt if they get into situations that are just outright ridiculous as I have experienced enough bot bs. I would've been bug main, but I'm the one who adapts quite well, so I am doing my part to ensure that we will win this.

wish we were able to "donate" supplies to other divers. Before the new upgrades, i was maxed out on samples for like a month.

You don’t need all of just half the big divers

yeah, because you don't get beamed across the map by a devastator, nor ragdolled around by an off screen rocket when fighting bugs. The only thing that "could" be annoying is bile spewers random artillery

​@@GameFuMasterif you're getting hit by rockets and beams, you're not using cover like you should be, and fighting bugs doesn't teach you to use cover like fighting bots does

I agree with the first comment. They are very different. Close range vs long range and close with their speed and jet packs. I do always fight whatever the major order is. Try using the scorcher against bots, would be my advice...

Yes, because playing against cockroaches doesn't require much use of the brain... run and shoot, run and shoot!

i mean i can do it its just a lot more fun to play against the bugs the autos are really predictable and boring

Thats a brilliant idea, i just hope if done, no ones piloting pelican 1, or eagle 1. We dont need that to be EXTRA unpredictable lol. Great idea though i hope something like this added in future.

@zealtqwerty3083 nah, I was thinking more along the lines of air support or recon drones, perhaps once the team activates AA someone could assume control. That kinda thing.

He's making "predictions", despite previous MOs on the Automaton front, two of them were predicted to fail... but we won. He's saying it right off the bat, even though, we're just starting.

It's almost as if participating in game's event should give bonuses... Totally weird concept for arrowhead, yeah😂🤣

Not the best idea since sometimes it's better to not go for the MO planet directly, like for X-45 for example could've been taken effortlessly if brainless actually took the planets they were attacking from, we also wouldn't have lost so much ground

@@hayrotheguye7511 this game is peak humanity You either follow what crowd thinks good and win/fail with it or go alone and make zero impact to common goal 🤣

or use the throwing technique

you dont have to help its not a job but a game

​@@GameFuMasteryou can throw it?

@@jairesemccoy9779 it's similar to the technique show in the video. Basically you grab the shell while moving away from it, and before it reaches your hands, you equip your gun and it'll continue flying

@@GameFuMaster or hit weapon swap right as you are dropping the shell will fling it also

Yeah why they just don't fire 1 or 2 rockets Wtf they fire entire salvo at you

The rocket salvo is really really simple to dodge unless you have 3 or more gunships on you.

spear one shots gunships

they have to play the story out, and if they just randomly add/lose territory, it removes player interaction with main plot points. So I get you feel like it might be slow with liberation, but it's part of the overall narrative and can't be skipped. "This is part of the story" isn't what I'd consider "No good reason" :)

@@PantheonContent”play the story out” is complete bullshit at this point. keep coping.

@@paparoach3071 someone doesn't like narrative driven gaming and it shows 🤣

@@PantheonContent amazing rebuttal kid. really helped your case.

Just....just no that is literally the entire gimmick of the bots it goes like this bugs = superior numbers and melee superiority bots = superior ranged firepower and heavy armour illuminate = superior individual skill and tactics

And help build settlements And use mechs in agricultutal activities Waaaait That's too much fun to think of. Let's get back to our boring game loop

If you think about it, then none of what we are doing is making sense. Between the territories of Super-Earth and Cyberstan is just one planet. We can use Zosma to liberate Merga IV and then already drop on Cyberstan, hitting them right in the heart, but no

​@@LaserTractor Hellfarmers simulator 2025

⁠@@LaserTractoryea because they can just add that whenever lets turn helldivers into a farming idle game

@@calaxsis8059 monster hunter perfectly mixes calm farming and gathering simulator and intense monster fights

Too bad but we need to meet players threshold first or planet liberation won't even start. (Yes, if you are not helping majority of players on certain planet and just play where you want - you are actually doing NOTHING at all😂) Your actions are nullified each hour when planet resistance is applied. Seen those "less than a percent" liberated planets? Yeah, these ones. You are doing absolutely nothing if you are holding them😂

@@LaserTractorNot everybody plays to move numbers. Some are just playing on preferred planets with friends. The numbers are often a non-factor when the only goal is fun.

@@WisdomThumbs well yes I was just saying that in terms of planet progression these people are doing zero work

Yeah visually it's hard to see sometimes.

Brother. As a bot diver... chill. It's a game. If people enjoy fighting bugs more than bots, that's their perogative. They bought the game, they should be able to play it how they want. Would it be nice to get some help on the bot front? Yeah. But telling people how they should enjoy a game they bought is crazy. At the end of the day, it's a video game, we aren't really at war 😂

​@mackyo8869 it's just a game is a cop out.

@BreachMePlz when it comes to telling others how to enjoy what they payed for, no, no it is not. That means you are taking this too seriously

Imagine getting irl mad about people wanting to shoot bugs rather than bots.

@@sethkappaccilli9509 that's what I'm saying. If you are spreading democracy, you're doing it correctly. Regardless of front or difficulty

While undemocratic that’s fair, bugs are fun (especially with a flamethrower) but I wouldn’t say bots are a chore just a switch in playstyle, still fight on whichever front you feel like fighting on

As someone who used to feel the same way. It genuinely does take a different approach and even a degree of stealth/strategy. I’m not going to say skill issue, bots are definitely unfair in regards to rocket ragdolling I agree, but it’s entirely doable and fun when you get the hang of it

I have to agree with the others above me. I wouldn’t say bots are a chore, they are more like an actual army you have to fight against and use a different playstyle. I prefer bot’s, so when there is no active major order I am always fighting them. I honestly don’t enjoy fighting the bugs as much mainly because of hunters and the bile spewing shitheads. But I’ll fight them for the major order. I just wish Joel would make progress on both major orders a little easier because of the lack of man power on the bot front.

The bug major order went by remarkably fast lol some were asleep when it happened.

I run autocannon on both fronts and it’s great Spear still has its uses and makes stuff go boom faster, especially those godforsaken gunsh!ts I can only shoot down o many of the things at once, so a teammate with a spear is always welcome to make them go down faster

@@asakayosapro I take it back, I discovered that the Commando / Spear combo is actually so unbelievably good it makes you unstoppable on bots and bases fall hard...

If you don't want to have to fight over all the goddamn planets all over again then fucking defend it I don't get it I don't get you people please tell me this is a joke

@@therandomcommenter6629 I'd rather the fookin planet stayed liberated rather than having to fight for it every time we get a bots major order. Idk why you call me out when everyone else is focused on a major order too. We might've been able to keep designated planets before when the game had 80k players online, but now with such a little player count, and with literally every planet from a past major order needing a defense campaign all at the same time, it's just not possible. The impact divers have is thinning out, and for some ungodly reason there's a factor that helps the enemy factions take a planet faster. How about we go sideways to new planets instead of repeatedly needing to play the same planet, then defend it for no reward, lose it, and get it back again until the game master decides "nah, that'd be a good idea. Let's just have them fight on the planet of no lore critical stance on the game." Maybe I'd actually play shitty defense campaigns, if they were on a cool planet, nudge nudge- cyberstan, malevalon creek, etc.

@@therealjome one the amount of players means nothing the system works off the percentage of the player base that is on said planet to calculate it two The enemies can take back the planets because if they couldn't there would be no point the games whole gimmick is the dynamic war which means yes the player base will lose it if they don't defend it in fact arrowhead is perfectly fine with us losing the war entirely it doesn't matter to them, go look at Helldivers one if you don't believe me if we were just endlessly pushing them back it would be far too easy and the lore significant planets wouldn't mean shit for example the reason why meridia was notable was not because it had a retextured biome it was the 10% enemy resistance rate cyberstan is literally the bots capital unless we as a community all lock in we are not going to be seeing that planet for months "why haven't we taken cyberstan already" I don't know probably the same reason why the French didn't just take Berlin in the first few weeks of world war II, "we're fighting over the same planets over and over again" welcome to war you fight over the same 2 miles of land for weeks only for there to be the occasional tactical victory or loss that actually changes the situation "that isn't fun" well then helldivers was never going to be fun ever because this was what was intended from the very beginning

@@therandomcommenter6629 I want new fuckin content. That's what I'm shitting about. These major orders of capturing planets are useless in the current state of the game. No one is going to go out of the major order's way to fight on a planet that was already liberated, mainly because they already spent so much time there, that the only thing worse than feeling burnt out in making pennies worth of impact on the planet's ownership, is having to play defense campaign missions. Seriously those defense campaigns need more operation missions than "kill enemies- then enemy spawners- then wait 10 minutes while being bombarded by waves of enemies again." I'm sure I'm the only one not having fun doing that every single operation. If it wasn't for meridia canonically being destroyed, the planet would've become captured again and go back to normal with zero traces of the super colony. "Congrats on the destruction of the supercolony helldiver! Now protect the planet again, just with less excitement." What a great war dynamic. Morale is just through the roof. I definitely want to waste time on defending a planet no one else wants to. Hence, why 8k players in defense campaigns make it to halfway just to see the bar deplete slowly on the planet they've hated playing on goes back down to 0.00000% liberated. No one was playing it for the war aspect. That's why the player count dipped, it's why the planets get captured after being liberated, it's why people would rather fight bugs thans bots because people do not have most of their fun in contributing to the war. No fucking war is fun. The only fun part you could take away from it ways to kill your enemies, which is what people are wanting new ways of doing with new stratagems and warbonds. Arrowhead is doing an alright job with the weapons and story, but dripfeeding content is like dripfeeding someone who needs more than what the dripfeed is giving. If we're going to be liberating the same planet, I'd want new ways of doing it. If the excuse to redundant gameplay is "you signed up for this" no shit people are going to just leave. I read somewhere that in Helldivers 1, planets would actually change in ownership overnight, meaning the war was really on a tightrope. In Helldivers 2, the rope is a thick rock. Liberation and capturing of planets takes days. You play on the same planets, the same ways, the same forever. Then once in a blue-moon, the gamemaster actually sends you to do something cool and progress the story. Then you go back to laying in trenches for seemingly months. At least give the excuse of something like the supercolony to keep other unattainable planets out of the picture, as well as making it make sense as to why when we spread our offense all over a planet, the next day a supply line from a nearby planet shows up out of nowhere to capture it several times. You'd think that we would make such a strategic decision in a war, but I guess it's up to the helldivers alone to make that decision and until the gamemaster sees that we defended a planet for once so that we can start liberating the supplying planet. These new factions better be able to actually make a dent in the game's progression without needing the gamemaster's approval.

@@therealjome "no one was playing it for the war aspect" see that's the problem the war aspect is the whole point if your not in it for that then you you're not going to like the game period pass the initial "oh cool I can blow shit up" the majority don't like it, it's a niche fucking game and it just got propelled to stardom by the internet randomly as for the speed of the war arrowhead said that the galactic war for helldivers II was going to be slower since the beginning and finally if you're looking for the 'content' you're just going to be disappointed over and over again because arrowhead is not that big at all and as for the game the biggest 'content' drop is going to be the arrival of the illuminate and that's it this is the game play it or don't it doesn't matter

Do you want low gas and oil prices super citizen because this is how you get low gas prices it seems morally ethical to me

He actually said "wait until he stops spewing"

Fixed :)

@@GlitchUnlimited good