My 1986 Nissan Stanza Wagon is Impossible to Fix
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After I've poured tons of love and money into this neglected, obscure car from the 1980s, it has decided that it wants to stall in the middle of busy intersections. My '86 Stanza Wagon is likely one of only a handful of Nissan Stanza Wagons left in the US, and certainly one of the lowest mile examples in existence. But being a low mile car certainly doesn't mean it's free from problems. Today we try to solve the stalling issue on this weird 1980s box on wheels. And if we don't succeed, I'll be searching for the nearest cliff to push this thing off of.
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Table of contents:
0:00 My History with this Stanza
1:17 What's Wrong Now?
3:54 Can I Fix It?
4:34 Fuel Pump Install
7:37 Will It Run?
8:09 Will it Stall?
10:10 Wrap Up
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Music used in this episode:
- Selected tracks by Kia Orion ( • Video )
- Selected tracks from the KZfaq music library
@obsoletegeek 2 жыл бұрын
Failed capacitors in the ECU can cause strange gremlins like this, and will stump most mechanics. Glad you fixed it!
@starquestman1544 2 жыл бұрын
Early 90s cars were very problematic with bad capacitors, they would leak and eat traces off the circuit board. It seems like the ECUs from the 80s had better caps in them than those later ones. Although my experience is from Mitsubishi vehicles of the era. If Nissan used Panasonic caps of that era I would replace them all! I have worked on electronics from the mid 80s with them and they caused tones of issues!
@a-aron5691 2 жыл бұрын
You’re alive?!
@geoffreyreuther5260 2 жыл бұрын
"Laughing maniacally because my car isn't stalling. Ah, I need new hobbies." Aaand now my lemonade is in my sinuses.. thanks!
@jrit2865 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having a realistic fleet of hoopties. So refreshing! And thanks for dealing with the overload of vehicles for our sake 😆
@toronado455 2 жыл бұрын
Funny that the mechanic didn't try the fuel pump fix. Glad you got it running better!
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
They said they tested it! Apparently didn't test it enough! :)
@starquestman1544 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloRoad sounds like it was marginal where it would provide just enough pressure to run but not enough flow to maintain acceleration. Some parts can test ok but fail under load.
@OdykKayne 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! Glad your little Stanza is back on the road again! I love seeing rare quirky beasts like this staying on the road :) Sad that you're selling it though! :( Maybe somebody from the Radwood community that can give it a new loving home?
@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын
I was basically yelling fuel pump at my screen from the start of the video. Especially when you said replacing the fuel filter made the problem worse. Glad you figured it out!
@kelemenkaban2505 2 жыл бұрын
One golden rule for owning any youngtimer / oldtimer car: Do not buy the last one... it will be a nightmare to maintain. You need a reliable community to support you. Happy to see the car is now running properly again. If you sell it, what will be the replacement? :D
@Ottoplemeniti 2 жыл бұрын
Damn it. The first video for this car was my introduction to your channel, I saw blown away by how well it was done - the VHS look, the fantastic music paired with it, etc. I'm very sad to see the Satanza go, it was by far my favorite car of yours. I love those weird, boxy stumpy proportions. I hope the new owner takes good care of it. Godspeed.
@beetleboys 2 жыл бұрын
Take it to radwood or local shows if it's alright to drive its definitely one of the coolest cars you got
@kimhjalmarsson8886 2 жыл бұрын
I would honk because I love your channel and the Stanza Wagon. 😅🚙❤️
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssssss
@ujpo32 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan preria 1982 ! Good! 7 seats, twins sparc! Thanks 4 video, wish you success!
@RudyPants 2 жыл бұрын
I love how I always get auto parts ads when I watch Ethan’s videos. It just makes perfect sense to advertise them here …
@rosskramer5296 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of many older Alfas and Fiats over the years, boy do I know the feeling! The desperation and the exhilaration. Mostly the desperation.
@johnl3230 2 жыл бұрын
Your Stanza runs great man! I'd love to have one haha, love weird vehicles too! Your fleet is amazing imho.
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
Ethan, this is going to sound weird, but a past time of mine is making words from plates. Yours is 1PUN655 If you add the 6 and 5 you get 11 which is the K so your plate is 1PUNK5
@Jb74W 2 жыл бұрын
The legacy next, please.
@longonthomas Жыл бұрын
I had one and loved it. Mine was a four speed manual…..2wd. Had good success with mine.
@nickwindt3881 2 жыл бұрын
my mom had one of these, got it when I was 14 and it got totaled when I was in college. I think hers was an 87', and it was a standard trans, I loved this car! I drove it a bunch. thing was crazy reliable right to the end. I always remember looking it up on Consumer Reports, the auto trans got terrible reviews, the standard got great reviews, so she bought it, in 1990. thanks for the nostalgia!
@carinapowered995 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 79 toyota that would stall behind red lights, and it was because of pluged up carburetor passages, your car is fuel injected I think, but sometimes a stuck open egr valve leads to hesitation and stalls, newer cars don't have egr any more, great job fixing your car ethan.
@puppygadget3189 Жыл бұрын
Awesome it’s running great and fixed. Shops should have known and checked if it was the fuel pump
@andnee3 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep making content. I love it
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
@vg33280zx 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was the fuel pressure regulator. It’s very common for the vacuum diaphragm to go bad and then fuel will bypass into the vacuum line and flood the engine out or cause a bad miss at idle. I’m glad you got it running. I just finished replacing the head gasket on one of mine. They are kind of a pain to work on with all the brackets and vacuum lines.
@megatronstoner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it's running again! But we need more probe videos!
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooooooooon!!!!
@mbach2826 2 жыл бұрын
It's good that you're at least willing to work on your own vehicles. You actually have a decent idea of what you're doing :) That's also one good thing about having older vehicles
@btrdangerdan2010 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when a 80s car comes back again
@unstablebobgable 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you got George CoStanza running better
@hullinger 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on getter her running again. Dare I even say reliably?!? Every single time I see the license plate on the Stanza I want to badly to come up with a witty and crafty pun on the name Stanza, but I think you've already done that with your reoccurring pattern of love and hate for this car!
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yeah when I see the license plate, I realize that the joke's on me!
@michaelolsen2348 6 ай бұрын
Dang i wish i watched this 2 years ago. I desperately need a car. I woulda bought that Stanza up.
@Mystery07988 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you though I have a 1989 Nissan Sentra sedan and parts are hard to find as well
@mitsubishikid1187 2 жыл бұрын
look into the egr system for stalling, could be a blocked or partially blocked port on the head or intake, a set of bristle tube brushes from harbor freight and a can of carb cleaner to help remove the buildup. Also throttle body shaft seals could be leaking and might need cleaning, could also be idle air control valve if equipped, but the shop likely would have caught these items or thought about them, also a compression test won't hurt just to see what the overall engine health is but carb cleaner will help remove any gummed up ports/parts and tube brushes are cheap, also might be unrelated but i hear lifter tick so might have to adjust the valve lash if possible.
@petescarport 2 жыл бұрын
My god I feel you completely. I have 11 cars and so many broken ones. I want to sell some but I don’t. When something works I sell it snd if it doesn’t work I drive myself nuts.
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we should trade. I'll give you some of my problems, I'll take some of yours 😆
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloRoad Ethan, you should stop trying to discourage people from buying a lot of cars. The more cars they buy the less cars go to junk yards. Also, you don't have enough. if you don't have mid 2 digits, you need more. I would say low 3 digits, but that would be too many for you and your neighbors.
@RetroCarsForever 2 жыл бұрын
Phew, what a great and satisfying fix! Wonder why the mechanic didn't figure that one out?
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for watching! I'm not sure. They actually did check the fuel pressure. Apparently their measurements were within spec, though I don't know under what conditions they tested.
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Yep, that's what I was wondering!
@Mystery07988 2 жыл бұрын
have you consider checking out the fuel injectors 🤔
@kevinkyser1274 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is so satisfying to fix your own car!
@coloradotrader7202 Жыл бұрын
Cool ride
@HelloRoad Жыл бұрын
Thx!!
@Edward.Mucklow 2 жыл бұрын
love it!
@dewikle2 7 ай бұрын
We sold ours in 2000. It was the most utilitarian car we ever had. However…. support from Nissan was not very good. The Nissan mechanics just weren’t very good at fixing problems when they would develop. So I wound up tending to it. Quickly I learned to take failed parts with me whenever I needed to buy replacements because the counter men at the parts retailers (dealer or aftermarket) would NEVER get the right part on the first try. Also…. The muffler would only last about 4 years and was hard to find and unusually expensive. Interesting that it had one hot and one cold spark plug in each of the4 cylinders. The 4WD was awesome. Even with all season radials it would just plow through the snow. I really regretted it when the time came to sell it but the herd needed to be culled…….
@Franjgeo78871 9 ай бұрын
Back in the early 90’s my parents said they going to go get a newer car, used but better than what we had from a Mercury Lynx. When they drove up over the hill and we saw this min space shuttle my brother and I, being in our early teens, looked at each other and realized we were never going to get laid…
@btrdangerdan2010 2 жыл бұрын
Nooo not the Stanza Wagon it was the car that led me to sub to your channel.
@antoniof7479 2 жыл бұрын
A little polish, fresh hubcaps and it’ll look mint ready for sale👌
@loualiberti4781 2 жыл бұрын
Oh what a Beauty !!
@btrdangerdan2010 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what the scenery will be when I park my 1989 Nissan Sentra next to your Stanza Wagon. 🤗🤭
@gregorymalchuk272 19 күн бұрын
Did you not have an OBD1 scanner capable of talking to the computer? Sometimes you can dump codes with a paperclip or by cycling the key 3 times. A failing fuel pump might have set a code for an unexpected lean condition.
@terbennett 2 жыл бұрын
I'm floored. The Z24 engine should be easy to work on. Most mechanics don't even realize they have 2 spark plugs per cylinder. Have the mechanics found any trouble codes? Have they checked? I know it's not OBD-II, but there is a way of getting trouble codes.
@red58fury 2 жыл бұрын
The shop should have definitely tested the fuel pressure while driving. For that concern with it stalling after driving around I’d test the fuel pump first. See it a lot where I work where the car cold starts ok and runs ok till it gets warm and while driving it will stall. I must have done 10 or more fuel pumps for that concern.
@michaelelliott3456 2 жыл бұрын
These are called a Nissan prairie in japan. Some are AWD. you could swap in a CA18DET or a NA CA16DE or CA18DE. you can add a jumper to the secondary coil to get a lil more power. no much. you could boost this CA20E with CA18ET parts.
@bigdane87 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Test the o2 sensor. Edit.. Terrible habits of commenting before the vid is over and spew random suggestions lol.
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
It still might be. We don't know it stopped hesitating for good.
@luccerio Жыл бұрын
Awesome ride
@georgenicoloff 2 жыл бұрын
I will miss the Stanza for sure
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Me too 😢
@tonysdiecastcustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to recommend a new fuel pump glad you fixed it, how much would you sell it for?
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up listing it for auction here, if you're interested! bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-nissan-stanza-2/
@steverado87 2 жыл бұрын
I think putting on some miles would help a bit!
@ruthlessuk6313 2 жыл бұрын
3 day old comment and video is 6 minutes old???🤔🤔🤔
@steverado87 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruthlessuk6313 yup, I saw this on patreon 3 days ago 😆
@ruthlessuk6313 2 жыл бұрын
Oh😂
@tz8025 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of boxy cars, how's the xB? When is the next video on it??
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooooon! At paint shop now!!!
@bobberndt9744 2 жыл бұрын
XB XB XB. YEAH !!
@quickford 2 жыл бұрын
"Please, please do not buy a fleet of mostly broken cars..." uhh, oops! hahaha. I have a 6th broken car on the way to provide parts for the 5th broken car...only two of the cars are currently usable...my only regret is not having space for MORE cars. (well, and not having the money to properly fix all of them at once!) :D
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
What controls the fuel injection? Is there a computer? I came across a Stanza at a dealers auction back in the '90s, which was around the same year as yours, and it wouldn't start unless you connected a box of some kind to stimulate the injectors. That was the last Stanza I ever considered.
@patryk_gra 2 жыл бұрын
Mój tata ma takiego nissana, od dwudziestu lat nie zmieniał oleju, tone płyt do bagażnika a dwie tony na przyczepę i daje radę. Nie do zajebania. Polecam
@randymcfarland6250 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 1986 Nissan Multi (The Canadian Version) 2 days ago, running and driving. I'm excited to fix it up and make it more reliable! I cant find a replacement windshield in Canada for it though... Any suggestions?
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice!!! Sorry, no idea on the windshield. I have to imagine they’re hard to come by everywhere…
@toothferrin 2 жыл бұрын
YAY!
@nutandboltguy3720 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of getting a matching set of hubcaps for that gem?
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately one fell off recently, I think the shop didn’t put it on tight enough. 😫 Impossible to find original hub caps so I’ll probably go with some aftermarket ones…
@almikelipscomb 2 жыл бұрын
We had one from 1991-2001. Was in the Air Force then and went back and forth from Baltimore to Vegas a couple of times. Would love to have another. My wife loved it too. You still have it?
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
I just sold it a month ago!
@taunusv4power 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how california works but where I'm from we just swap a carburetor and kill all the efi system if it gets too difficult to get parts. We actually have some stanzas in peru
@badlarrys Жыл бұрын
Do you still have this? We had one and my wife Loved it, but we hit a deer and totaled it. I’d love to get another one 😊
@HelloRoad Жыл бұрын
Sorry no, I sold it last year!
@mbach2826 2 жыл бұрын
I had an older, low mileage Ford car that always stalled when the rpms got below a certain point. It was a free car, so I didn't really look into the cause. I just gave it enough gas to stay on. I got it for Christmas one year in high School and it lasted to the following summer before enough was wrong with it where I just gave up and sold it for scrap
@trabertgraneau3323 2 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, at least you’re able to fix most of the mechanical issues on the Stanza wagon before selling it
@joshlay4507 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1986 Stanza Wagon and it is failing smog with really high NOx. Any tips for passing CA smog?
@kyliandc9276 2 жыл бұрын
You should restore the Stanza exterior plastics with the heatgun method too, it would transform the car. I've done it on my Volvo it looks like new since 2 years
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I did this on a Jeep WJ. It came out great.
@gman8578 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to buy this car.... can't believe your selling it.
@mariovsquez 2 жыл бұрын
My very first car was a Tan Stanza Wagon, I got it around 1997. It had the same stalling problem. After a year of trying to figure it out, I sold it. If I knew then what I know now...
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Ah bummer!!
@andrewanderson9896 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame your getting rid of it, I love Nissans, especially older quirky ones.
@racingfortheson 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, been a mechanic for most of my life (I’m 40). You need to find a new shop. If they can diagnose a pump when it’s making noise, they don’t care about your business or they are a terrible shop. 5 min pressure test could have saved you so much time and money.
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
They did a pressure test, the results were fine. But maybe they did not test while driving? Not sure
@michaelolsen2348 6 ай бұрын
Thats funny cuz i kept a huge fire extinguisher in my old 75 Fury. And theyre making parts hard to find to force people to junk these cars and spend buttloads of money on something new.
@vp5228 2 жыл бұрын
Given the weather in california, I would suspect vapor lock.
@Blue_Neptune13 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my father bought a brand new tan Stanza wagon back in the 80's. Us kids were so amazed on how the side doors were both opened like a van but it wasn't considered van. That damn thing lasted forever and been everywhere. The older I got, the more I realized how ugly it really was 🤣
@longonthomas Жыл бұрын
Did you get the codes from the computer?
@meissnerflux 2 жыл бұрын
HOLD ME CLOSER, TINY STANZA
@andrewhopkins1010 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like what was happening with my old 95 Ford F-150. It would hesitate and die all the time. I took it all over and had multiple mechanics look for issues and no one could ever figure it out. Ended up trading it due to that and the gas mileage.
@BrandonAustinMcDowellFL 2 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1989 nissan stanza sedan it was awesome but I couldnt find parts for it at all in junkyards or online so I ended up selling it
@pgilb70 2 жыл бұрын
Time to change mechanics bro-they shoudve been able to diagnose the pump. Noisy for a start....
@shehzaadcaunhye5299 2 жыл бұрын
Bro , box on wheels was the term used by Mr K to Porsche when developing the Datsun 510. 150000 miles for a 35 year old car isn’t enough. Too much carbon.
@triumphtr779 2 жыл бұрын
You may want to find new mechanics if yours didn't bother to check for good fuel pressure
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
They actually did check. Apparently their measurements were within spec, though I don't know under what conditions they tested.
@Blabus5 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb idea: it's injected, not carburetted? I'd recommend finding air mass flow sensor (probably somewhere between throtle and air filter) and clean it up.
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Yep we did that :)
@hoklo6571 7 ай бұрын
u hv just proved ow reliable fuel injection rly is
@vintagedude5905 2 жыл бұрын
if you replace the fuel lines it should run even better, after 30 years at least the rubber on the inside is in bad shape and the lines got full of muck clotting the line from running the fuel properly.
@SPEEDFREAK6988 2 жыл бұрын
Hesitation and you replaced everything but the fuel pump,check your injectors.You could have a dead one and it could cause it to hesitate and stall from lack of fuel.
@kyliandc9276 2 жыл бұрын
My Previa stalls too ... sadly it is because it has absolutely no compression in one cylinder :(
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh! 😢
@kyliandc9276 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloRoad Yeah :'( I will buy a new one at the beginning of september (if the granny succeed to put the title in her name) this time with no LPG Autogas aftermarket conversion that probably ruined the engine
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
It can't run on 3 cylinders without stalling?
@kyliandc9276 2 жыл бұрын
@@mexicanspec The other cylinders are probably half bad too. When it is finally hot after 30 minutes i can leave with it without stalling too often but it runs super rough
@andrewanderson9896 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like the injectors are plugged up. When you replaced the fuel filter it could have allowed more debris to get past and to the fuel rail.
@patrickmason6971 2 жыл бұрын
Get it to that detailer
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
The interior could really use a deep clean. The exterior won't likely look better without a repaint. Enjoy the patina!!!
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
Ethan, I believe the ancient philosopher Kenny Rogers said - You've got to know when to hold ' em, Know when to fold em', Know when to walk away And know when to run . Start running!!!!!!!!!
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah!
@olivervigilia6351 2 жыл бұрын
the fuel tank could also be rusty and dirty, contaminating the fuel
@CrossingRover 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting is so bad for cars, try to take it around the block every week or so to prevent things from gumming up
@johngoepel5263 2 жыл бұрын
Lol your fuel pump sounded horrible and you were losing power? Sorry to be captain hindsight, but dang dude, seems pretty obvious. A pump that makes unpleasant noises is either going bad or is ruined already. This is why it's so important to me to remove any unpleasant sounds in a car. If your car makes unpleasant noises, resolve that shit.
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
It was obvious to me as well, that's why the fuel pump was the first thing I had my mechanic check. They flow tested the pump and it came back fine. Apparently they didn't test it properly!
@johngoepel5263 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloRoad honestly that mechanic failed you. Any mechanic when informed you're having intermittent issues with your engines power while a fuel pump is audibly making unnatural sounds is dropping the ball extra hard. BTW I wish I had a shot at buying it. The Stanza Wagon was my family's vehicle when I was a kid. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for one.
@jrharryman32 2 жыл бұрын
I had an early integra with no check engine light but it bucked and hesitated. Put an Oxygen sensor in it. It should be not be too expensive.
@jrharryman32 2 жыл бұрын
It uses the Mass air flow and the primitive O2 sensor to set the fuel trim. Obd1 cars act crazy and are harder to diag than Obd2 cars
@rkelley8475 7 ай бұрын
It's never impossible !!!
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
That car needs a One Day Paint paint job.
@puppygadget3189 Жыл бұрын
Valves need adjustment really bad
@adamculbertson7850 2 жыл бұрын
Also just because you got a new part, doesn’t mean it will fix it. There is a rash of many bad “new parts”.
@mikeyveloster7615 2 жыл бұрын
It always annoyed me that the one wheel didn't have a hubcap on it
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
One of the shops I took it to lost it :/
@youtoobe169 2 жыл бұрын
So, my Plymouth TC3 had a weird problem like that. Something to do with an "apirator valve". Not sure if this car has anything like that. I made 2 videos on it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLyjgMSAqL_PgJ8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kN9orapls7jZlmQ.html
@MARC-FENIX 2 жыл бұрын
So Mimi Vandermolen did not work on the design of this one? :-)
@HelloRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha not this one!!
@ronkappe8994 2 жыл бұрын
Clean the Fuel Tank
@Hazdazos 2 жыл бұрын
Run some Seafoam through it.
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