This sounds amazing

whats comming out? a game a new film? show?

What's the soundtrack used in this video?

I want it and I want them to spend 100 million dollars on it. Let marvel do hell raiser

@@sillyguy9828 How about directed by Todd Phillips who directed, Joker?

Like he would actually stop someone from crying 😫

"Your suffering will be legendary, even in hell" Easily the best quote.

I personally like.. "Pain has a face, allow me to show it to you"

If ever there was mythos that needs to be fleshed out. (Pun absolutely intended ) Mr.H you've got my vote for the next High Priest of Hell. !¡ fhtagn' !¡

" We are the Cenobites, the lords of the order of the gash, to some we are angels, to others demons, we are explorers of the outer boundaries of experience"

I agree. You could see stories of how the changes in hell happened, which was hinted about when Angelic (not sure her name) came in an was the first summoned by the box. Or even showing how the Leviathan went from the statue we hear about in this idea, to being a larger version of the box in later version.

Can you imagine If they twighlighted the shit out of the Hellraiser series lol

Netflix or other service no holds barred limited series! Is; not so manyeps to make it shit. Make like Chernobyl, 3 to max 8 ep single season only!

Donnie Darko exactly man this seems like it would do really well just from how different it is compared to the other films with it actually taking place in Hell. It would most likely also introduce even more Cenobites and demons that may have never even been seen before or made their way into the movies yet on screen with where its taking place. Really wish this would’ve actually went through

MonkeyZorr well Pinhead is a mantel. It would most likely not be the Pinhead of the first 2

Yeah, it looks pretty amazing very Hellraiser, meets Lovecraft, meets OG realms of chaos.

MonkeyZorr doug bradley will never do another hellraiser. Your franchise is dead. You wont get that back. Out with the old in with the new.

Because nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

If you've never seen Judgment, I thought it was really good.

Yeah, the films did embark on the fanciful and borderline ridiculous after HR2, then seemed to remember 'their' roots with the Wire Twin episode and the most recent film. Just seems like so much wasted celluloid in between. The entire series, imo, could be likened to humans as one goes from prepubescent (parts 1 & 2) to and through the 'awkward stage' of young adulthood (everything from 3 to the Wire Twin iteration, the Box in Space being the most awkward growing pains) culminating in a newly formed adult that still resembles the youngster we all knew and loved yet having a mind of its own and making decisions us 'parents' don't necessarily approve of, but can appreciate as part of its search for knowledge and being which is unfortunate as we (the fans and the films) don't really communicate or see much of each other anymore.

True I would have rather had a Good Hellraiser than all those saw movies

I've generally lost faith in Hollywood and it's writers and storytellers. Basically they've lost any sense of adventure in bold storytelling. Pushing the boundaries of what's possible. They play it safe and movies suffer and so does the movie.

Do I look like someone who cares what God thinks?

You would think if they were in a biblical world so to speak that the entities of heaven would be represented but barker is silent on that.

@@charlessanders In the books he touches on both sides.

Then watch the newest Hellraiser. There is a Angel involved.

I think that Barker purposely left the heavenly aspects out of the original film to keep it more on the bleak side as well as to not define The Hell Priest and the Cenobites as specifically evil.

Daniel Smith No that would ruin it . Only bloody gore is good . You don't need to go the other way at all. That is a thought crime

Right. I like the ides and love the pictures. My concern is how to build a story around it. What are the stakes? What conflict? How do we as a audience relate? So far Hellraiser works best as a subtle force. The consequence of terrible and dumb humans who seek something mind-raping that they will never be ready for, and a punishment for all their deeds of getting there. That's why none of the sequels work because they tried to make it into a slasher like Freddy. I think as a story the world of Hellraiser works best as like a spider hidden in the shadows who which the characters are unaware as they dance ever closer to the web through their misdeeds, animal impulses, & ignorance. Also there still needs to be mystery and haveing everything spelled out and put up on screen leaves little to the imagination.

I mean if you have read the Scarlet Gospels you see that the Cenobites are indeed in Hell, religious hell. But done so wonderfully, i loved that book.

Scarlett gospel came after books of blood In which there were no religious ties. After this last book I'd really want to say it's a ghost writer as it was so bad.

Hell is another dimension, and it's much scarier.

Exactly I always imagined the cube to be a fresh portal into a fresh new pocket dimension when it was created by the Toy-maker. And once those evil masochistic aristocrats were the first to venture in, they turned it into a place of pain based misery and pleasure. Similar to the way Narnia was created by the two children and the evil queen in The Magician's Nephew.

I like the fan theory that Event Horizon was an unofficial WH40K movie due to the nature of the dimension the ship passed through. And the physicality themes in Event Horizon weren't that far off from Hellraiser, so yeah, I think it all relates.

Yes

Eric Faith curious why yiu believe that. Assuming religion as fiction or otherwise, the source of the leviathan predates jeudo-christian beliefs, and... “Jewish sources describe Leviathan as a dragon who lives over the Sources of the Deep and who, along with the male land-monster Behemoth, will be served up to the righteous at the end of time. The Book of Enoch (60:7-9) describes Leviathan as a female monster dwelling in the watery abyss (as Tiamat), while Behemoth is a male monster living in the desert of Dunaydin ("east of Eden"). When the Jewish midrash (explanations of the Tanakh) were being composed, it was held that God originally produced a male and a female leviathan, but lest in multiplying the species should destroy the world, he slew the female, reserving her flesh for the banquet that will be given to the righteous on the advent of the Messiah”

I would have to be near death from alcohol poisoning from way too much vodka and not knowing where and who I was with.

Me too. Compelling music was totally missing in the HR Judgement.

@@pheresy1367 does some one knows the name of the music?

Im sure if someone creates this its going to suck ass 😣 just like most horror films. Hellrasier 1 & 2 were unique & actually quite terrifying

i am the True Highlander That’s the horrifying part. It’s ultimately Hell on Earth. It makes u wonder how tribes like the Skinned and the Traders existed and functioned, being so horrifically tortured. Pretty disturbing and horrifying to think about.

@@celestialspartan1176 Yes you right and my original statement STILL stands this earth has truly gone to HELL!! !😊🔥😈

i am the True Highlander now this really makes me wish that this film actually came to be. Just imagine the possibilities that this could’ve brought.

@@celestialspartan1176 i agree 💯 percent but it would expose this EVIL world for WHAT it is 😃 PEOPLE making packs with demons to fulfill their dreams!!!🔥😈

In the Boom Comics, Leviathan takes the form a a dairy delivery man. No joke. And he's just one of the many rulers of the many hells.

@@justwannabehappy6735 Leviathan is one of the prime entities in the realms of boundless pain and pleasure..it isn't per say a living conscious but a force of nature built by God to manage over the damned. The leviathan is really an advanced a.i. built by God to run that particular and specific realm of hell. When you see the spinning wooden posts with chains and body parts, that represents the leviathan. Symbolism of it. The dr. from the 2nd one understood this and understood the leviathan wasn't a being like pinhead. It didn't have a human spirit. It was apathetic and neutral and only had one purpose put forth for it. To manage and run that particular realm or level of hell. He hacked it. Becoming of the few mortals besides pinhead and a few others in the series to become a cenobite and he actually became more powerful than pinhead. This is where the "pleasure" comes in. Being a cenobite, living forever, doing all the mad experiments you want, no repercussions, God can't touch you, sin all you want, be evil...do whatever! Total freedom! And almost god like abilities to be as perverse and evil as you want. The dr gained the ultimate "pleasure" for a sinner. That wasn't it's design. Pinhead and that dr. becoming a cenobite was never meant to be. There are many levels to it. Each level has a "leviathan" or an "overlord". This particular leviathan created the cenobites in order to go out and get the damned. Like tentacles. In all reality, pinhead is just a lawnmower for God to cut down sinners. In the novella, it hints toward all this. Is he really evil? No, pinhead isn't "evil". Pinhead is just doing what he is programmed to do. Like an animal and his human spirit is actually a virus in his coding. The very existence of cenobites wasn't supposed to happen and pinhead and them are an anomaly. It was always just supposed to be the realms of hell and the "overlords" or in that particular realm of hell, the leviathan. This is where the series hints at a "lucifer" who controls the "leviathan" even thought it was God who built it. Hence, why were getting cenobites to reach out like tentacles. That was never it's intended purpose.

It would have to be someone with presence. Like Idris Elba, or Cumberbach. I would still definitely stick with a British actor.

Doug Bradley is perfect as Pinhead. couldn’t really watch the other Hellraisers bc it didn’t feel right

Well it actually makes perfect sense you get a different guy to play the same character. Just like that shitty british show Dr. Who gives a turkey.

In the comics, Kirsty eventually gives in and becomes the next Pinhead.

@@bradames320 If I only had listened to that voice... they were painful, like siting at a childs play for 6 hours painful....

I love night breed. They crossed night breed and hell raiser

Only makes sense, since they are combined in Clive beakers concepts

Barker I meant

They are somewhat in the same universe, right?

Love Nightbreed. so underrated...

Thank you dude

Dough Breadley

Hellraiser anime would not be a bad idea especially as anime is getting more popular and with good style

no

not everything needs to be made into an anime

@@grilledleeks6514 I agree, but it is just an idea. Not a horrible one either. This whole story for a Hellraiser origin story, that has already had so much devotion put into it, deserves a chance. If anime is the only way it can be, it would at least get it off the ground. My only request is that Mr.H reads any narration for it. He is just amazing when it comes to that in general 😉👍😎

@@grilledleeks6514 What about castlevania..its very palatable even my old school comics teacher liked it (who hates anime style). when old heads think of anime they think of cringe early 2000's otaku shit but anime is more main stream now. 2d animation is dying in the west and I think its cool to breathe life into older series. Instead of making corny cgi movie with a low budget

Grim Reaper I’m right there with u. This looked like it would’ve had a budget similar in amount to LOTR’s budget. Very ambitious.

Sounds like a horror take on a movie style like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow or Casshern. Those movies were cutting edge at the time, but that level of stylized CGI should be getting more manageable as the years pass.

Why ?

Most above 100 IQ people do... and the rest can only fathom it in misplaced religious symbolism

Well, the Leviathan should be tell-tale for even the oblivious. The son of Cthulhu appeared in the 2018 game Call of Cthulhu as a primary driver for the protagonist.

Na Lovecraftian is more Giant Demons/Beasts that roamed the world thousands of year ago with human Cults who worship them. Called Cosmic Horror.. Clive Barker is more BDSM/Religious "demons" and he uses blood alot. Infact Barker use of blood and religious imagery is essential. Whereas Lovecraftian hardly ever uses blood. They are 2 very distinct genres.

@@WAX1138 Except you are wrong, and more than likely have read little to no lovecraft xD

Nah

Matthew Smith I disagree. Although Doug Bradley was an excellent Pinhead there is room for others to interpret and play with the character. To say there is no other actor who can give life to Pinhead is to put an end to potential.

I would say doug defiantly set the bar of expectations very high. And its hard to reach such a bar.

Hahahahaha!! That he does!

@Megiddo Jones That (NEW) Pinhead design doesn't so......

I like the old uniforms better too The old uniforms were a nearly perfect combination of s&m type wear and priestly robes This one makes him look more like a barbarian from a fantasy table top rpg or something Although I must say I did like the new tribes and the structures

Although Hammer worked perfectly for that role and looked great. Would never work as pinhead obviously, like you said, not a fan of the pinhead they showed.

imo it would make sense that the design looks more primitive since he's the first iteration of pinhead but i do think it needs a different design

The other way around they are influenced by Barker work

Hope the don't bastardize it with leftist political crap or SJW non-sense.

My faith in Netflix's potential for TV shows was rekindled after Punisher S1, Daredevil S3 and Altered Carbon. Additionally, Netflix would certainly have the vast budget required!

Sadly, every time I hear Spawn, I also think John Leguizamo...

@@thelemonddropskid5445 ...which was the best thing in the movie.

That'd be a badass Crossover

Why is that a flaw? That's a great idea. ✌🏿

@@dr.manhattan6278 its great for a horror fan but if you're looking for funding you need to appeal to a broader audience. That means a relatable character and making Pinhead relatably human would ruin his mystique (in my opinion).

@Viktor Pedrova Or at least bring over his love interest from the comics...if we must humanize him.

@@OMEGATHENIETZCHIAN I hear you, but the Hellraiser universe has always had a specific fan base. A franchise like that is not going to appeal to the masses. That's why most of these movies went straight to DVD.

@@dr.manhattan6278 people said the same about r rated comic movies like deadpool until fox said fuck it and gave it a chance. now it's probably the most profitable x men film ever.

Jihad was such an underrated story.

Alex N my audiobook book of choice

Hollywood makes and remakes redo dodo movies over because people will watch and with Hellraiser they fell they wouldn't make as much money , that's why it should go independent and f Hollywood if movie was to be done it would kick major ASS . When the first the original movie Hellraiser came out there had to have been almost 20 people there . Watched it twice .Peace

Because unfortunately the majority of society doesn't like to think too much. MIB satisfies that.

would you really want them to do same quality spin off of Hellraiser as Men in black? -_- or ghostbusters? or Ocean 13?

@@Geltance very good point,... This sounds awesome

Besides I could deal with a female pinhead... It suits today's women😁

Yes, knowing a monster's shoe size does nothing but learning that it's a foot soldier and brings greater doom. However for me Hellraiser has to have an interesting story, not answer every question

Not all monsters are alike. Otherwise it becomes all he same. It's just there and it chases you. ORIGINS is a mythos set in Hell. It's an epic saga of horror fantasy. Not your typical Boo! Aahh! Fanfare. I do understand what you mean though. A lot of horror tends to over explain. But Origins is a chronicle.

SpeedBoost.... I don't agree with any of this (well maybe the Tony Soprano part). But I can't even think of an example where revealing back story, and motivations detracts, except for when it is done poorly, which is most of the time. The statement made in your comment must be the new law in Hollywood governing Horror stories about Monsters. I have heard this many times before, I guess people really believe it. For example: Beowulf. Grendel is scary as fuck... then Beowulf ends up at his home and meets his mother,. ... it gets even scarier. An what about Leatherface? He got way scarier after we got to see where he lived and met his family. If it was just him chasing people around with the chainsaw, it would have left very little impression. I have seen many movies about "boogeymen" with characters that are thinly rendered and become a vehicle for jump scares... and sometimes snarky humor. I don't think we are going to be told that Pinhead's motivation is that he needs to sell more magazine subscriptions, so he can go to summer camp.... that would suck... but really, I can't tell you how many times I've watched a movie where I am thinking ... wow... this is starting to get interesting...THE END... Credits roll. Especially in the last 2 decades, not so much before that. with respect.

@@pheresy1367 except Beowulf wasn't intended to be adapted to a movie but it was an ancient tale that was written as they used to told it. For example every single Grimm's tale isn't written with the intent of the last minute plot twist, the shoking relevation etc... in that case that was more about the moral of the story and what the protagonist'd do in order to save himself, not about who is the antagonist, which usually is described since his first appareance. Hellraiser's fortune was ENTIRELY based on the mystique that surrounds the Cenobytes, their lack of rage and purposes... this new approch is going to bomb badly.

@@scaccu Well I'm no expert. My point of view comes from my own personal observations. It seems to me, there is plenty of room to explore the mystery that deeply teased us in the first installation (be it movie, or the novella). As we come closer to the characters in the story, another layer of revelation is shown which then opens the door for more questions and possibilities....and .... also opens the door to ruin everything, if the creators don't "get it". When I saw the first HR, and then the book, I recognized that this was a story never told by Hollywood before. There was something about it that rang true in a way that I didn't have words for. A story like this has to be told by someone that understands how this world works, and how the players play out. I'm not entirely sure Clive is the only person that is capable of rendering it...or ...even if Clive is capable. or We can keep the Cenobites as a horror device that we never get to know anything about... and just go ahead and tell a different story that we've already seen a thousand times before. Creative visionaries want to tell their original story, while the producers with the money just want to tell the same old story that has always made money for them... This has been the classic conflict in movie making since the beginning of Hollywood. I picked the example of Beowulf, because it's the oldest story that we know written down in (Old) English language. It's a story about darkness, and terror, and about mysterious predators that can devour the strongest of the strong... and... can be seen metaphorically on many levels. That is a great story. That's the kind of story I would love to see HR continue as... Like LOTR, or GoT... only very different.... :)

barry ! I’ve actually never thought of this lol....that would be a really good way to begin it off and then if they made its budget back. Then turn the sequel or whatever they plan on doing afterwards in Live Action

barry ! I have mixed feelings about that idea. I know many fans of HR, but wouldn't go out their way to see any Anime, unless it was Miyazaki or the like. Sure it should be Anime too, but there is no reason not to go all out on the live action version, if they can get it away from Dimension.... or get some funding for it because they get the right creative team for it, and it would be awesome when done right.... what they probable will never understand. nevermind

P Heresy yeah but see that’s the thing, having the movie based entirely in Hell would cost a huge budget to actually create the Hell world that the movie is based in, and instead of having it as like an anime, they could make it into something like the old Resident Evil CGI movies and they’d save alot of money doing it that way.

666ang I agree they wouldn't be so restricted they could go all out and also hopefully pick up a lot more fans along the way. Let's put it to Mr H and see what he thinks he might be the one to get the ball rolling he's got a bit of reach to put it to certain people if its a no then nothing lost buuuuut if its yes then we could have the next best hellraiser just waiting to be unleashed on old and new fans alike. Here is hoping a good go fund me to raise some of the starting costs to pay some people to do a short if successful then you never know what could happen and if not its good to dream.

barry ! Exactly man, so yeah hopefully he does see this and put it out there. I feel this would be a good beginning to this new generation and old Hellraiser fans also with Spiderman Into The Spiderverse doing so well and being animated. I know it has nothing to do with this but it is a really good example lol

You ever read Clive Barker? Zombie puppies try to feed on their decaying crippled mother, the main character gets fed filet of teenage girl ass, a skeleton crawls out of a toilet, some dude fornicates with a flesh wound in a woman's stomach, and that's part of one book that didn't take place in hell. It would unfaithful to the writer if it wasn't abhorrently graphic. I assume the second movie was like that cuz they prolly had a bigger budget

@@kimkillillasfuq8212 I guess you are right. They should make everything from now on the lowest common denominator spit and puke porn. Just forget desire and the line between pleasure and pain... it was all overrated crap anyway. The next one should just be ONLY guts and shit. Shit porn. And spit and puke.

@@kimkillillasfuq8212 The grotesque elements are totally necessary, I agree - what the most recent movie lacked was the content in between the horror scenes. With a series as popular as hellraiser I find it hard to believe whoever owns the IP couldn't crowd fund a decent budget for a proper reboot of the series akin to the origin story pitched in this video.

@@lsb2623 I think you're missing the point, it's not gore for the lowest common denominator, it's gore for the guy who fucking wrote it because the dude is lowkey kinda fucked up

'B'jesus'...As in 'baby jesus' Regardless the drawings are beautiful but scary.. I'm not surprised she got scared lol

Dylan Carroll AGREED!