Help! D.E. is Leaking Into My Pool!

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Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL

Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL

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There are three main types of D.E. filters on the market today. The most common is the traditional grid type D.E. filter which consists of a Top Manifold, 8 grids in a circular pattern, and a bottom manifold. This is the type made by Pentair, Jandy, and Hayward as well as off-brand makers like Waterway. Pentair makes a unique D.E. filter known as the Quad D.E. Filter and this filter consists of up to 4 cartridges instead of vertical grids. They also make a Quad D.E. Filter for their Sta-Rite brand. The last type is made by Hayward and is often referred to as a “Bump D.E. Filter” and is their Perflex D.E. Filter. These filters are usually found in above-ground pools and are not very popular in my area.
00:00 Introduction
00:58 What is a DE Filter?
01:53 What happens with a DE leak
04:53 Back through the skimmer
07:09 Checklist to find a leak
If Your D.E. filter is leaking D.E. back into your pool here are the possible sources:
1. Air gets into the system allowing the filter to drain back into the pool when the pump turns off. You will see D.E. leaking back into the pool through the skimmer and main drain. Find an air leak and repair it.
2. The top manifold has a crack in it. For the Pentair 2000 and 4000 series note that the top manifold is actually on the filter bottom. Replace the top manifold to stop the leak.
3. The Air bleeder assembly is missing the screen or cloth cover, replace that and the leak should stop.
4. The stem o-ring (Stand Pipe o-ring) is missing or loose. This will let D.E. back into the pool and replacing it is the solution. ALA-601-4608 0-24-9 O-RING AMP/PUR/HAY/PAC/SAU (STEM)
5. A grid has a tear in it or the top portion that goes into the manifold is broken. Replace the grid and this will fix the issue.
6. Under rare situations, the Stand Pipe itself has come loose from the filter. Replace the Stand Pipe and the leak will be fixed.
What makes the D.E. filter so effective is the D.E. itself or Diatomaceous Earth, which is used to coat the grids. This white powder material will filter out dirt, viruses, and bacteria as well as fine particles allowing for crystal clear water to flow back into the pool. If you have ever cleaned a D.E. filter you will notice that the D.E. will be coated with dirt and algae as well as fine debris, leaving the grids clean and white underneath. A cartridge filter cannot do this by design as the dirt, algae, and debris will stick to the pleats in the cartridge material themselves. The D.E. acts as a type of secondary media or you can even look at the D.E. as a shield that absorbs all of the filtered particles allowing for clear water to return to the pool.
There are some drawbacks to D.E. Filters that you need to be aware of. The first drawback is the D.E. powder itself. It is messy and if you have an all-cement deck it can be a pain to clean up after cleaning or backwashing your filter. D.E. is also banned by many cities and if they find you expelling D.E. into the street they will fine you anywhere from $10,000 or more. Some cities even ban the installation of D.E. filters entirely.
Another drawback is that if a grid or manifold has a tear or crack, the D.E. filter media will blow right back into the pool (see above points to correct a leak). Even the smallest tear will allow large amounts of D.E. back into your pool. This will turn the water cloudy and also create poor filtration leading to algae growth and the chlorine zeroing out. A simple fix is to take the filter apart and replace all of the torn or broken parts. But be aware that a D.E. leaking back into your pool is a common issue with a D.E. Filter.
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@brianmiddleton123
@brianmiddleton123 8 ай бұрын
Comprehensive video. I couldn't find the DE leak in my system, even after replacing the filters. I found a crack in the filter manifold after watching this video. I didn't think to look closely at the manifold since it seems so thick. Thank you!
@phillypauly
@phillypauly 2 ай бұрын
This was pretty helpful for me (a consumer). Thanks!
@deanlip
@deanlip 2 ай бұрын
Hi! Thank you for this very helpful video. I’m thinking to change my DE filter out for a Cartridge one. In the interim is it safe to swim in the pool with some DE leaking in on the bottom?
@SPL
@SPL 2 ай бұрын
Yes, just messy but safe to swim.
@patrickboston1352
@patrickboston1352 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any videos on cleaning up DE that has leaked after you fix any issues with your filter? I am having a hard time getting rid of all of the DE settled on the bottom and am wondering if its just that hard to capture with the vacuum or if I have a very small leak that is causing it to slowly re-accumulate.
@SPL
@SPL 2 ай бұрын
Watch the returns when the pool first turns on. If it is coming out slightly cloudy maybe the DE leak is still slightly active.
@MYKroe
@MYKroe Ай бұрын
I agree. THe DE is in my pool and vacuuming and agitating the DE pwoder to circulate is not working. The DE is too fine to pick up with a leaf skimmer. How do I get this DE out of the pool, the challenge is driving me crazy?
@ilustrius9
@ilustrius9 Жыл бұрын
why no mention of the multiport valve gasket?
@SPL
@SPL Жыл бұрын
I probably could have mentioned that. In most cases when the Spider Gasket fails water will be leaking out of it at the same time through the waste line.
@leevasquez8617
@leevasquez8617 Жыл бұрын
Hello i really need help. I have changed out the manifold. Changed out the o ring on the stand pipe. And inspected the stand pipe. Re-checked the grids. Took apart the multiport and checked the spider gasket. And I'm still getting DE back into my pool. I also installed a new relief valve. I really dont know what else to do. Please help.
@leevasquez8617
@leevasquez8617 Жыл бұрын
The grids are only 3 years old. And no visible holes anywhere
@SPL
@SPL Жыл бұрын
That is about everything. On rare occassions the glue on the stem pipe may have worn out. Remove the grids and see if you can pull the stand pipe out with your hand. If so you will need to reglue it.
@leevasquez8617
@leevasquez8617 Жыл бұрын
@SPL ok thank you very much. If for some reason that's not it, do I need a whole new filter system? And I've notice even now that I changed out the relief valve I'm still getting air in the lines. I can hear and see bubbles coming out the jets. I don't tou if that has anything g to do with what's happening but I'm desperate.
@leevasquez8617
@leevasquez8617 Жыл бұрын
Update. Please let me know whatca think. I haven't messed with the system all week. Today I went to take part again and check the pipe. When I took the dome off the manifold wasn't on the pipe. It had popped off. Any thoughts on why and if this is part of my problem?
@sybo10
@sybo10 4 күн бұрын
I never could find a problem with mine after a very thorough inspection, but the unit was really old so I decided I had enough of DE and got a sand filter with glass media, no more DE issues forever.
@Singedbeast
@Singedbeast 2 ай бұрын
I cleaned my filter and added DE.. but i opened my filter again for adjustments and it still had abunch of DE at the bottom, do i open the cap and remove it?
@SPL
@SPL 2 ай бұрын
It should rise to cover the grids eventually when you run the pool for a day or so.
@Singedbeast
@Singedbeast 2 ай бұрын
@@SPL thanks for the quick reply boss! Much love
@vancegillenwater9609
@vancegillenwater9609 Жыл бұрын
maybe put up your checklist on the vidieo graphic....throw us a bone
@149nervz
@149nervz Жыл бұрын
Sorry but you talk way to much. This can have been done in 5 minutes
@SPL
@SPL Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that.
@ChristIsRisen777
@ChristIsRisen777 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps. However, there is absolutely Nothing wrong with being thorough, especially for newcomers to the business like myself, who found this video extremely informative!
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