The fact that music from the 60s and 70s still holds up when we can reproduce all the frequencies more clearly is a testament to their better mixing.

I’m not at the level of these guys , but I’m listening to every podcast to get better,to at least have a conversation with them one day on their level

I love that fact that I can follow the conversation and not be as skilled in mixing and mastering. Thank ya for this podcast!

I think late 70’s, early 80’s, thriller, off the wall, Earth Wind and Fire had awesome mixes

Might be my new favorite episode thus far, Definitely got deep on the evolution side of music

this one is my favorite. you all dived deep in the topic!!! can't wait for next episode!!!!! Much love to you all!!!

I think part of the resurgence of stuff like "lofi hip hop beats to chill to" is a phenomena driven by the topics you guys were discussing at the end, music has became so clean and highly produced that people have a nostalgia for that old warm and dirty sound, although most of doing it through "artificial" means with the newer tech. You can pretty much have the sound of any era these days, and really people start gravitating to different sounds once they get tired of whatever the current sound is. (My favourite era for production sound is the 70s and 80s but mostly the 70s)

Being a new engineer I can't even cap I love the information yall give bro no doubt it's priceless keep grinding 💯

Great video love how you guys are talking about the quality of the mix I hear alot of these underground arrtist say that their sound is "industry standard" but then I hear the beats and it's like to clean and the bass is like to much that you can't really fit vocals on the track but then you hear albums from more creative arrtist like kendrick or Tyler the creator and the mix is grimey and nasty and it's like is their really such a thing as a standard you guys definitely touched alot of great topics keep it up

Great conversation!

BTW, back in the day, the individual tracks on an album were always lower than the single because of the limitation of vinyl. The more songs you put on a vinyl record the lower the output would get. This is why the single would be louder because it was the vocal on one side and the instrumental/acapella on the other side. Other than preference, there is absolutely no reason why the volume of the single should be louder than that of the album, overall, nowadays.

I love the comparisons on this podcast 😃

This episode was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is going to be a long winded response but rock with me. Also guys you're doing great with the pod I tune in every week faithfully. I think the 70's had the best mixes not only because they had the most space to be creative while still innovative but the skill level to mix was a necessity while today if you have the money for a plugin you can essentially make a mix "good." I also believe what we say is good today isn't necessarily good but the idea the artist is trying to convey is the clearest it's ever been. We lose a large sense of ambiguity and mystery through operating in the box and it gives more consistent and explicable outcomes but becomes over saturating and doesn't age well because it all blends together. I think in the future the music industry will die to the invention for consumers to create or fully realize the music their brain naturally creates. If ever there was a service that people would gladly pay for its for the ideas they can't articulate to be translated into consumable ideas they can either share with others or fully actualize. I think this technology will come out within the next 15 years. Side bar microwaves have been out since the 50's ya'll so that's 70 years of tech. Exponential tech is anything dealing with the internet.

24:28 You guys really need to do a segment on Serban Ghenea. 17 time Grammy winning mix engineer...ALL IN THE BOX.

I’d take the shortcuts because it would force me to flesh out my ideas more and I’d still be able to remember what I did with it

The podcast is 🔥🔥🔥

I started off with a usb mic and Cool Edit Pro (Adobe Audition) back in 2007-2011 before I had access to auto tune I used Yamaha Pitch Fix.

Not sure how young you guys are, but Tribe Called Quest's Low End Theory changed EVERYTHING for HIPHOP. Yes others used the 808 previously, but the way Bob Power;Tip was able to mix it with the kick in "Check the Rhime" was something we NEVER HEARD BEFORE! That shit was crazy to us! I was in high school then. Then Jay Dee (JDilla) took bass and kicks sonics to the next level. They are the precursor to the thick/punchy ass drums and sub bass you heard later on in 90s hiphop and influenced a lot today.

Michael Jackson Thriller in my opinion is one of the best mixed albums ever...

Pro Tools Gang Checking in✊🏾🔥🥳

Dope discussion y'all. Love the podcast keep em coming! 🔥🔥🔥

when I worked with Chad about a decade ago we worked in Logic

hey guys good topic i like when you mention that the best sounding rap album was the chronic. My name is Willie Will and I was the assistant mix engineer on the chronic. I sat with dr dre for months mixing the album.

This made me think. Should drums in an instrumental be the only tracks you apply an compressor to? What would this do to the overall sound? I use them for all tracks, to taste of course.

Question, would you guys use a Behringer VST?

Is like for y'all to talc about keyboard workstations sometime!

Michael Jackson, “Don’t stop til you get enough”best mixed song of all time.

since yall touched on the advancement of music technology, i would love to hear yall speak on how AI is being developed to create music and how you think that may impact the future of music

living legends

This episode had so much gold especially the album cut vs single topic. I've always wondered that

Y’all gotta let each other talk😂

Today for sure

I produce in pro tools! I'll count in these conversations one day

It depends on the song / album. Not what you wanten to hear but yeah sometimes they go back to the mix. Also listen to good old mixes modern sonics and dynamica dont compare. We not there (yet) where the guys used to be. Dont watch analyzers, listen....

What pluggin LJ talkin about @22:30 ??

Behringer are very good I own. Well, I don't own anything Behringer I used to own a Mixer.

Yo idk why I though LJ was the wavmonopoly guy

Jack Antanoff produces in ProTools.

Marvin Gaye’s vocals in the 70’s 😮😮😮😮

Jake one produce in protools

Late 80s🔥🔥🔥💯👊

CDs where is the bass. Now people want records. Now everything is super clean. Is it better?

Idk modern music is so cold and robotic .. I think 70 s n 80s was the best also these guys have a interest in saying today's music is the best obviously

Behringer is Koch! 😂

Autotune is Rockafella imo. It's gotten so many engineers money while holding up consistently against stiff competition. I know Rock is small but just me.

90’s! Today’s music is too sharp and harsh

I think the technology is making mixes better but the engineers skills don't have to be there so I would say 90's and older eras had better mixes because it took more skill. I think the question is not about what is the better mix era it is what is the better skill. I feel like mixing is being dumb down. Less skill more plugins.

Mike Will

Because of technology, the mixes are better today. Because of the lack of technology, the engineers were better back then.

***Logic Pro X Producers*** Pharrell Williams Tyler, The Creator J Cole London on da track Billie Eilish & Finneas Russ Charlie Heat Ed Sheeran Mac Miller

The 60’s 70’s and 80’s, they recorded on TAPE! which sounds the best over everything, Dr. Dre was the best at mixing for the 90’s

What if we didn't master all songs for an album the same sonically? After all, it's about the music right? lol

Everything before 2pacs 7 day killuminati.

I’m assuming you guys have no respect for the IK Multimedia mixing/mastering suite at all huh? 🧐🤔

Basically, you are all saying Plug ins sound better than analog. If you are saying the stereo image sounds better than 70's 80's 90's 00's 10's

Max Martin produces in pro tools

Metro Booming produces in FL

Bruno Mars produces in pro tools

Plug-ins, access to information and audio technology have come light years just in the last decade or so. As a result the barrier for entry is basically nonexistent and a 15 year old kid can use presets and get a pretty good sounding record. My favourite era of mixing was the 2000s. Analog was still prominent. Artists recorded in big studios with expensive equipment and experienced engineers but digital was just being berthed and ProTools was showing it had a purpose. Back when you HAD to be experienced to work on a record. Mixes weren’t given to anyone. Labels worked with veterans and there was a different standard. Case and point. The current state of Nas’ Music. I grew up on him and now His songs are unlistenable to my ears. His mixes are being absolutely butchered. The 70s, 80s, 90s 2000s would never have allowed for an A list artist to be paired with an incompetent engineer.

Stop bringing up berringer lmao! good podcast though. I think early 2000's had the best mixes.

Nick Mira

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