Garage Floor Prep - CONCRETE GRINDING DIY using the Pioneer Eclipse rental from Home Depot

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2 жыл бұрын

This video shows you how to prep a garage floor for a sealant such as epoxy or urethane. I rented the Pioneer Eclipse machine and the "Concrete Prep Tool", each part is a separate rental. Total cost was $170 for 24 hours. It was the same cost for 4 hours, so make sure to get it for 24 because you WILL need it!
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@dondunning1307
@dondunning1307 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is the best video I have seen on this tool. Two years ago I did this to a 2000 square foot house (3 full weekends of 10+ hour days grinding).... there was not a lot out there on this tool other then HD and factory stuff. You did a great job and showed the realities of using this machine. I have to think you have used a buffer before.. the learning curve to handle the machine was a little harder for me. Do not do the water method that he mentions.... I did that in one hallway and it created an insane mess. I do suggest running a light mop ahead of this to keep some of the dust down. Do not go crazy with water! A light mop only.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Don Dunning thanks! And no, I’ve actually never used a buffer either 😬
@JRODD666
@JRODD666 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Was told to wet and became a nightmare. Do dry folks and work right to left
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@JRODD666 thanks for the info!
@brianalexander4139
@brianalexander4139 9 ай бұрын
Great video! I rented the same concrete grinder and grinded down the floor. The grinder has a pretty good amount of power so I agree with starting in the middle of the floor to learn how to use it. My pattern was to slide it left to right, right to left, and the vertical ovals. Lots of dust and swept throughout the process and after finishing. Then used a shopvac to collect the remaining dust. Pressure washed the floor to clean all dust. Don't forget to get a good respirator, safety glasses, and coveralls so you don't get your clothes super dirty. Now I'm ready for cleaning & degreasing, if needed, and then etching.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 9 ай бұрын
+Brian Alexander thanks! 🍻
@BalcomFamily
@BalcomFamily 3 ай бұрын
Was at Wicked Weed brewery in Asheville this past weekend, good pours there. This vid will help me and the wife as we're tasked with doing our 3 car garage later this this spring. I see some do's and don'ts from this so thanks for taking the time to post.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 3 ай бұрын
+@BalcomFamily you’re welcome! We like Wicked Weed too
@bradymiguel
@bradymiguel 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone doing this, I’d recommend getting the premium “fine dust” filter as well as the adding the collection bag that you can put inside the canister. I do this for woodworking and general maker stuff. For a few extra bucks, your shop vac won’t even know it’s within inches of dying.💨
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Brady Barrera I agree, assuming they have it available 😁
@ledi2005
@ledi2005 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a collection bag saved me while skimming walls. No dust at all and it saves the motor too. Best investment ever.
@73amx63
@73amx63 7 ай бұрын
Home Depot folk gave you good information. The thing is a beast. Best to let it find its own plane or its own comfortable operating position. It can turn easily. I wanted to remove paint overspray so bought a red pad and some 60 grit paper. Worked well
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 7 ай бұрын
+73 AMX yes! 🍻
@jimmccarthy6015
@jimmccarthy6015 2 жыл бұрын
The space is looking great!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Jim McCarthy thanks! It should start picking up a lot more over the next couple weeks 😁
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 10 ай бұрын
small tip i learned from running a floorbuffer (basicly the same machine) put the extention cord over youre shoulder and make sure you move away from where the extention cord is comming from (allways pull on it , never let the machine move toward it , if it catches under the scrubber it will tear the cord a part
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 10 ай бұрын
+watahyahknow good tip, thanks!
@Jay-bu6cd
@Jay-bu6cd Жыл бұрын
Thank you that helps me make my decision regarding doing this myself
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Jay you’re welcome! 🍻
@thomashermann4228
@thomashermann4228 Жыл бұрын
Thank-you for this video!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Thomas Hermann you’re welcome! 🍻
@travislau808
@travislau808 Жыл бұрын
I just rented one of these babies thanks for posting this video
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Travis Lau you’re welcome. How did it go for you?
@travislau808
@travislau808 Жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY it went very well!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@travislau808 that’s great!
@ShellieSager
@ShellieSager Жыл бұрын
Okay! You convinced me. I'm hiring someone. lol
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Shellie Sager hahaha very valid decision!
@robertocarlosampuero7579
@robertocarlosampuero7579 Ай бұрын
Good job bro, thanks for your video, now I can paint my garage... 🤩🍻😎
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Ай бұрын
+@robertocarlosampuero7579 glad to help! 🍻
@shawnwalker-ir1qk
@shawnwalker-ir1qk 2 ай бұрын
Helpful hint when using the orbital sander disk . Use playground sand to help cut into the concrete
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 ай бұрын
+@shawnwalker-ir1qk interesting… first time I’ve heard that 🍻
@Scott-nj9gq
@Scott-nj9gq 6 ай бұрын
I just emailed the epoxy company that quoted me last year...no shot I'm taking this project on. Great video!.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 6 ай бұрын
+@Scott-nj9gq 😎😉
@budmanzoom4441
@budmanzoom4441 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 ай бұрын
+@budmanzoom4441 you bet! 🍻
@rvscootin3457
@rvscootin3457 10 ай бұрын
Great Video! I think the main idea is to give the floor some "tooth" to let the other chemicals adhere to. I think that if you have CSP-2 ground quality that the concrete will be ready.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 10 ай бұрын
+RV Scootin thanks! 🍻
@rickmonster636
@rickmonster636 Жыл бұрын
Doing some concrete prep now and this video showed me what to expect with the buffer rental . Good stuff
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Rick Monster636 good luck! 👍
@A6Legit
@A6Legit 10 күн бұрын
Pro tip, the lower you keep the handle bars when running the easier it is to keep it steady and get it to go left and right when you lift the handle up or down.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 10 күн бұрын
+@A6Legit yep, thanks!
@CoderMan
@CoderMan Жыл бұрын
Great overview. Hasn't seen anyone with the same watch band before ///M
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Coderman 🍻///M
@trailjockeytj6160
@trailjockeytj6160 3 ай бұрын
To get more power out of that unit, you had an interesting technique that works limited. It’s better to lower the handle and put it into your hip while twisting the handlebars, pulling up on your left and pushing down on your right, it will get the right hand of the machine cutting like what you’re doing with the backside of the machine but continuously, you just have to lean into the machine, and that gives more weight on the cutting surface, or at least makes the cutting surface smaller, giving you more weight on that section. I am a professional flooring, guy, and polish floors, quite a bit the first house of a garage like that would take about an hour with our machine, 25 hp grinder with a 7 hp vacuum all 480 V three phase. And finally your shot back will handle all that dust on your final cleanup. It’s just you would have to shut down and clean the filter quite a bit which is a safer way as far as breathing hazardous dust but you did have your respirator on so then you just have to worry about the best going where you don’t want it like into the rafters and so forth
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 3 ай бұрын
+@trailjockeytj6160 makes sense
@francoisparadis5184
@francoisparadis5184 4 ай бұрын
Next time use "dustbane"...I think it's "sweepy" or something here at Home Depot. (very small wood chips with an oil...You put it down and the oily chips pick up the dust as you sweep, so nothing comes up. It also works for drywall dust....It's simply amazing. You would not even need a bag of it for your project a little picks up a lot of dust.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
+@francoisparadis5184 interesting 🤔
@0dallas
@0dallas 2 жыл бұрын
now that you're an expert, come do my shop! :P
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Shawn D you can’t afford me. Man…. That ranks right up there with roofing! 😭
@D-blaze
@D-blaze Жыл бұрын
To anyone wondering this machine/method needs water or the diamond blades will heat up and glaze over. Understandably, he stated he couldn't use water due to a time constraint.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dallas Blaze yes, and thank you for actually listening 🍻
@D-blaze
@D-blaze Жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY Cheers! Thank you for taking the time to help others, including myself.
@jiajia4856
@jiajia4856 Жыл бұрын
So if there is no time constraints, would you do this differently?
@mikerandolph4057
@mikerandolph4057 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, lower is way better control.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+mike randolph 👍
@screwdriver7507
@screwdriver7507 Жыл бұрын
The right tool for this job is the 10” concrete grinder that Home Depot rents. It’s a very heavy machine, almost 200 lbs, so getting it home can be a chore. I had to rent a small garden trailer that had a ramp/tailgate. But getting it home was definitely worth it! At least 2X more effective as the floor buffer setup. Also it was MUCH easier to control.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+ScrewDriver750 sounds so much better… this was all my HD had
@Obababoy
@Obababoy Жыл бұрын
Does that tool handle pitting as well?
@tylersGBO
@tylersGBO Жыл бұрын
Am I supposed to put a disc on it? Or use what’s on the machine
@CassieSnowLV
@CassieSnowLV 8 ай бұрын
I just rented this, I agree its the better tool for the job (or so it seems from my research) However, I didnt realize how heavy it was. I am picking it up later today and only have an SUV. Wish me luck otherwise will need to reschedule and figure out plan B hah
@ottomc560
@ottomc560 17 күн бұрын
Did you use the grinder pad that came with it??
@t-shirtdudes212
@t-shirtdudes212 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you have any issues keeping the floor straight? I want to do mine but am worried about creating waves in the floor.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+T-Shirt Dudes nope, not at all. Doesn’t remove enough material to affect that.
@pnum9618
@pnum9618 2 жыл бұрын
lower the handle below waste u will have more control c15 flooring contractor
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+p num yes! I meant to mention that in the video… the lower the handle the more control I had. Thanks for pointing that out!
@deep6301
@deep6301 Жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. Thanks
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dee P I appreciate that thanks! 🍻
@justinjr1623
@justinjr1623 2 ай бұрын
wow, feeling like you on the horse back🤪🤪
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 ай бұрын
+@justinjr1623 yea! 😂
@donaldschulte2463
@donaldschulte2463 2 жыл бұрын
Probly should of had a little water on the ground because the blades glaze after a certain temp
@andresruiz6033
@andresruiz6033 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to remove old paint from my basement concrete floor that is chipping away due to a flooding. Do you know if this tool will remove all of the old paint from the floor?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Andres Ruiz I think it should. You could call them to confirm
@daveschinkel7789
@daveschinkel7789 Жыл бұрын
Something doesn’t seem right with the same one I got from Home Depot. It’s very hard to stop the machine. The handles don’t have any tension so when I let go or let off a bit the machine doesn’t stop. Is that the same feeling you had or did yours stop when you let off the triggers?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dave Schinkel hmm not sure about that
@dgmenace73
@dgmenace73 Жыл бұрын
Nice video & it has helped me to think I can do this to my garage. My apologies if people have already asked or if I missed it in the video. How much did Home Depot charge to rent the grinder out to you? I really appreciate your honesty of the use and trial & error with this. Thanks again.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dennis Griffith glad it helped! I probably mentioned it, but I don’t remember now. You can call a HD and ask though.
@jiajia4856
@jiajia4856 Жыл бұрын
He said $170.
@fortyoddyears5295
@fortyoddyears5295 Жыл бұрын
So if your patching first and want to use dye in the end, is it better to patch with concrete, leveler, enamel…. What will show least after grinding.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+FortyOdd Years good question but I don’t know. Maybe someone else will chime in.
@srkidd12
@srkidd12 2 жыл бұрын
What about removing the top inch or 2 to redo the surface? I ran out of time stamping and was thinking of using this to remove the top 1 to 2 inches and resurface it with a bonding agent. Thoughts?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+SR Kidd12 not with this tool! No no no. 😂 it would take you a week
@dp981
@dp981 Жыл бұрын
You might as well go at it with a sledgehammer and repour the slab if you're looking for 1-2 inches down. Diamond grinding removes maybe a millimeter or two from the surface in a thorough pass.
@srkidd12
@srkidd12 Жыл бұрын
@@dp981 good point. I realized that after I hit send. 😅
@johnt13
@johnt13 2 жыл бұрын
I am putting in a bathroom in an area of my basement that has a concrete floor with all kinds of bumps, old epoxy and a spot where the original oil tank for the heater resided. This was a great video and I am tiling the bathroom area where the reminding 200 sf will be cork with a heavy pad. So my question is does this get the floor to a point where I can lay thinset and tile over it? Or will I still need to use leveling cement which I may just do instead of grinding.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+John Talbot good question. Mine was already level, obviously, so I didn’t have to worry about that. I wouldn’t think this machine would be good at leveling
@Pelavitafan
@Pelavitafan 2 жыл бұрын
True diamond grinding will accomplish that. Unless the floor is insanely jacked up...Home Depot machines like the Dimabrush diamond head don't really hone down high spots.
@Pelavitafan
@Pelavitafan 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY it's terrible at leveling. A Scanmaskin or Edco with 18 to 30 grit segments and a HEPA vacuum will do that fast and perfect .
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pelavitafan I would think so too, but I wasn’t leveling anything
@legalpundit22
@legalpundit22 Жыл бұрын
Pouring water and sweeping the dust off is one economic and quicker way, than using vacuum cleaners
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+भारतीय yes, as I said through, I didn’t have time to wait for it so dry
@derekhudgin6660
@derekhudgin6660 8 ай бұрын
Does a concrete grinder like this help grind down bumps or lips on existing concrete floor?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 8 ай бұрын
+Derek Hudgin if they weren’t too big it would
@thombauer1721
@thombauer1721 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Wear a filter or respirator suitable for concrete, to protect your lungs. Silicosis is nasty stuff you don’t want it.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Thom Bauer absolutely!
@snivvelslurderagementai2560
@snivvelslurderagementai2560 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. My question is does this machine create a smooth finish? I don't want to put epoxy on. I just want to seal the concrete with a clear coat.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 3 ай бұрын
+@snivvelslurderagementai2560 should be good for that I would think 🤷‍♂️
@stevodakine1
@stevodakine1 4 ай бұрын
You're a hard worker, I would have grabbed two dudes from the Home Depot parking lot and paid them to do all that. Then I would have bought them that beer!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
+@stevodakine1 😂🍻
@noneckjoe948
@noneckjoe948 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂… hell of an idea! Thanks!
@ssdtrain1
@ssdtrain1 9 ай бұрын
When done grinding, vacuum floor check vacuum filter every 5-10 minutes. empty then repeat process. Wet mop, (not moist mop) with a large head (not a kitchen swiffer mop) but a commercial size and bucket from Home D. to pick up the rest of the surface dust from the concrete. Don't scrub the mop, go back and forth turning the mop on your return swipe, "scrubbing" works the dust back into the floor. And try not to pressure wash unless oil stains are present.. Have fun !!
@fabienpics
@fabienpics 7 ай бұрын
Good job.. for better control it is easy when the arm control are lower thand you use. I work a lot with this kind of crinder. And we're easy ( one hand control ) when you take that lower. But anyway, good job
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 7 ай бұрын
+@fabienpics thanks! 🍻
@jayjaber8834
@jayjaber8834 Жыл бұрын
Rule one for dust extraction never use a leaf blower because dust settles, rule number 2 never use a broom because once again it creates dust, use a foam squeegee instead. If you have only fine dust no rocks or debris a squeegee work’s beautiful if you do have rocks and debris from grinding lightly broom then squeegee
@gtoddwilliams
@gtoddwilliams 2 ай бұрын
Great vid! Why not pressure wash the concrete after brooming? That would certainly help remove dust.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 ай бұрын
+@gtoddwilliams you definitely could… I explained that I had to paint a few hours later and wouldn’t have time for the water to dry, so that’s the only reason I didn’t.
@Hathathorne
@Hathathorne 11 ай бұрын
Can I wet the ground so the dust doesn't kick when I grind? Would it be better? like a whetstone?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 11 ай бұрын
+Lewis some people do, but I hear it can also make a big mess and be hard to clean up
@Hathathorne
@Hathathorne 11 ай бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY Yea, I did some initial scrubbing and degreaser with a deck scrubber and its basically leaves a thick black sludge. You'd need a strong wet vacuum to get it all up. I have a squeegee and a okay shop vacuum though so it'll probably work out.
@PossessedbyPhoenix
@PossessedbyPhoenix 4 ай бұрын
Is there a way to get the corners?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
+@PossessedbyPhoenix not with a circle, but that’s overkill
@johnm8078
@johnm8078 Жыл бұрын
Will this machine grind any humps or high spots or is this just basically sanding the floor?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+John M not much. Mostly just roughs it up
@g.b.5206
@g.b.5206 4 ай бұрын
they have a heavy duty grinder at Home Depot rental
@token6282
@token6282 4 ай бұрын
Hello all.... ive been a Floor technician for 6 years now (strip and wax floors).. but recently ive been trying to find a career path that pays more.. Ive never realized how similar this machince is to the buffer i use. I feel like i could do this with my eyes closed, with one arm. LITERALLY!!!! Is it that really that similar to a floor buffer or is it much more intense? Could this be a could carrer for me to advance to? What would the job tilte be????
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
+@token6282 I’ve never used a buffer so 🤷‍♂️
@lovelykary79
@lovelykary79 Жыл бұрын
Will this remove old paint on concrete?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
It’s supposed to, but I obviously didn’t use it for that so I can’t confirm
@marklevenson
@marklevenson 8 ай бұрын
in the future just drop your handle closer to the floor and let the weight of the sander do the work you want it to float across the floor not wobble raising it forward will cause it to bite when needed
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 8 ай бұрын
+mark levenson yes great tip thanks
@deboraharmstrong3011
@deboraharmstrong3011 5 ай бұрын
Lower the handle to your belt line or slightly lower . It will make the job MUCH EASIER!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 5 ай бұрын
+@deboraharmstrong3011 yes I’ve heard, thanks! 🍻
@trailjockeytj6160
@trailjockeytj6160 3 ай бұрын
Also, a better way to scuff the surface is a shot blast. I thought you were going to try to polish this floor which is what we do when we grind. We will use eight different grades of grinding pucks Starting at 18 ending at 800. A really good look for a garage but way too much work for 110 V. If it took you 10 hours to do the first grind, which wasn’t sufficient For an initial grind for polish, by the way, you would’ve been there for weeks! Painting a floor to me, is not the way to go, I assume you’ll end up getting stains from your tires sitting on the coating, and hopefully you got enough prep to keep your hot tire from just peeling off the coating after that tire cools and backs back out of the garage. But you did go pretty far to get a good profile. I’d be curious to see what the grip of your grinding disc was.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 3 ай бұрын
+@trailjockeytj6160 I didn’t use paint, the coating I used is marine grade and has been perfect for tires, chemical spills, etc. extremely durable and easy to clean.
@TheHighVindicator
@TheHighVindicator Жыл бұрын
You really wanna put the handle lower. Pocket height and lean into it with your upper thigh. I did wood floors for a long time and have buffed football fields worth of floors.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Vindie makes sense.
@okcool4128
@okcool4128 4 ай бұрын
Question, your machine seems a little bit worn out, old, but would pressure washing + grinder work better?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
+@okcool4128 some people here say yes and some say it makes more of a mess 🤷‍♂️
@80volwerine
@80volwerine Жыл бұрын
Hi. How much did you manage to take off the floor? Mm or cm
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+80volwerine my only goal was to rough it up so paint would adhere to it
@80volwerine
@80volwerine Жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY I would be interested to grind 30 mm or so. More than an inch. I wonder what could I get for that.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@80volwerine not this 😆
@joespear915
@joespear915 10 ай бұрын
To keep the wheel cool, you should keep the area wet. Thtas how we do it anywAY.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 10 ай бұрын
+Joe Spear yeah some people like that approach
@williamcardenasgarcia5932
@williamcardenasgarcia5932 6 ай бұрын
So what your saying is to instead of etching to grind instead?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 6 ай бұрын
+@williamcardenasgarcia5932 just another option
@paige7930
@paige7930 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of that one you rented ? Thanks in advance
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Paige thought I put it in the video. Only one my HD rented. Sorry don’t remember without going back to look
@seanpaula8924
@seanpaula8924 21 күн бұрын
Grinding doesn't necessarily mean silica dust on a Harbour Freight mask. N95.
@frankvogel1403
@frankvogel1403 Ай бұрын
Fan in the window, suck out the dust boss 👍
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Ай бұрын
+@frankvogel1403 good idea 👍 🍻
@johndoe-nf2le
@johndoe-nf2le Жыл бұрын
Would be faster and easier just to Shotblast the floor, just saying since I own a epoxy flooring company. Stan Houston rents them out for about 300 a day
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+john doe I’m all for faster and easier!
@lageronimo8012
@lageronimo8012 Жыл бұрын
What are you grinding off? Paint?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+LA Geronimo no, just roughing up a new concrete surface so paint will adhere.
@Pelavitafan
@Pelavitafan 2 жыл бұрын
This is a new pour, cured 30 days, right? If so, use a floor maintainer/polisher RS16 with a 60 grit sanding screen underlaid by a black pad as a backer pad. All of this is at home Depot Tool Rental. This technique produces a better surface for coatings or sealing without curricular grind marks Vacuum up the grind dust grind and microfiber mop with zep NEUTRAL cleaner, 2 times. Rinse thoroughly. Let dry overnight with fans. Coatings cannot be applied on moist floors. Will fail later. Concrete us porous and permeable. Concrete should be coated only when moisture is 10% or less. Get all moisture meter at harbor freight ($10). This saves time, money, and produces a better surface with open pores. I know this from doing oodles of garage floors professionally for 14 years. Another option is call us to do high end diamond grinding with various iterative diamond tool segments for polished concrete, from coarse to fine. We use HEPA vacuums. One note: wet grinding is messy and the rinseate water will leave a mess all down the street! We use a hot tire resistant sealer. Hot tires WILL lift up most coatings and epoxies. GUARANTEED. Polish concrete that are densified and sealed properly---and sometimes stained first, are the most durable. All coatings fail eventually and you'll hv to grind it off. Geological engineer here, most contractors haven't a clue.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Michael Oritz yes new pour.
@MrSrt4dodgeneon
@MrSrt4dodgeneon 2 жыл бұрын
So my tires temperature are what’s causing the paint to come up? My garage has one of those speckled floors that’s got some age to it, but since I’ve been using it more I noticed more bare floor coming through
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSrt4dodgeneon most likely yes
@Pelavitafan
@Pelavitafan 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSrt4dodgeneon yes coatings do that I use the GPD hot tire pickup sealer on top of the coating. If that is not done right away the entire floor has to be stripped grind it off start over... The best floors for a garage are concrete polished floors. You get the exposed concrete which is a thousand times more durable than any coating
@dwhite300
@dwhite300 Жыл бұрын
Michael - can I ask a quick question? I want to put down New Age composite tiles, which interlock and float on the concrete garage floor. The spec says anything over 3/16" over 10' unevenness is a problem. My floor is 60 years old but the concrete is in good shape and has some valleys of around 3/16 over 4 or 5 feet. Hard to even tell. Anyway HD rents the EDCO grinder which seems like it will flatten everything out moreso than the machine in this video. However, how do you knock down high points? I was going to mark the high spots with a sharpie and then grind as needed. Will this work? Also, the dang thing weighs 150 lbs and I won't be able to get it out of my SUV by myself, so dumb as that sounds it's another problem. Many of my neighbors are old so I don't want to break their backs!
@Toofastfourluv
@Toofastfourluv Жыл бұрын
A laser level to determine your effectiveness
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dedra Skipworth perhaps. Although just visually seeing it scuffed up was all I needed to know that my paint would stick
@catcall569
@catcall569 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I might pay to have this done…
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Cobb I don’t blame you!
@chrisjefferson264
@chrisjefferson264 2 жыл бұрын
4 to 5000
@bobfognozzle
@bobfognozzle 2 жыл бұрын
🤓👌
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Bob Fognozzle 😂🍻
@alexkomala
@alexkomala 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend doing this on a 2400 sq ft shop?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Alex Komala I think it’s necessary and will give you the best final results, but I sure wouldn’t want to do it myself!
@alexkomala
@alexkomala 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY thanks for the reply. Epoxy came in after 4 month back order now it’s too cold to lay. Time will tell what I end up having to do!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexkomala yeah it’s crazy how hard it is to get paint/etc these days!
@rfwoolf
@rfwoolf Жыл бұрын
Problem: I think this is a concrete scraper not a grinder. It's good to remove paint and coatings on the concrete, but not good for remove the top layers of concrete 'crema' to expose the aggregate, which some applications require.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
It’s their grinder attachment
@screwdriver7507
@screwdriver7507 Жыл бұрын
I’m experiencing the same hours long struggle as “Help me DIY”. I’m now going to try the Home Depot 9” grinder (much heavier machine) vs the 17” concrete prep tool (mounted on a floor polisher) to finish the OTHER HALF of my garage floor. 🙄
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@screwdriver7507 let us know the comparison!
@screwdriver7507
@screwdriver7507 Жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY Will do.
@VICMANROQ
@VICMANROQ Жыл бұрын
@@screwdriver7507 how'd it go. I'm about to jump into this situation
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 2 жыл бұрын
That attachment is really the wrong one. It’s going to sand more than grind. Your really need to get a good GRIND WITH ABOUT A 40 GRIT scratch pattern for the best bond. Certainly anything is better than nothing but I would hate to work so hard and have the finish fail. Maybe the head is just worn out. It’s not how much you grind off but the scratches it creates that matters.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Gene Miller well that’s the only one they rent. Maybe it’s worn like you said though.
@charleslee4361
@charleslee4361 Жыл бұрын
I hate replying negative comments. So I wasn’t going to say anything. But you are the only comment that I read that is spot on. And yes I am a flooring guy.
@typhoonjenkins8330
@typhoonjenkins8330 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this. Decision made, I'm hiring the pro's to do mine. I'm too old and couldn't possibly do all that work, which sucks. It is what it is
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Typhoon Jenkins better to know before you get into it 😁👍
@maxromero7998
@maxromero7998 Жыл бұрын
Great video but rhat concrete is way to hard to cut that surface. Mine is not that hard troweled. Might just get a real concrete grind thanks for the video
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Max Romero thanks! 🍻
@cgrobe21
@cgrobe21 Жыл бұрын
Looks like homedepot rented you one with a bent spindle...
@andrewwilliams9973
@andrewwilliams9973 Жыл бұрын
how big is the garage?
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Andrew Williams around 17’ x 36’ if I remember correctly
@andrewwilliams9973
@andrewwilliams9973 Жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY Thanks. I am going to epoxy my garage. It's a new construction with smooth concrete so I know I need to rough it up. If you could have saved time but spent about 2x as much on a shot blaster, would you have done it? My garage is 780 sq. ft. and I am a little intimidated by the time it would take with a floor polisher/diamond wheel. Any thoughts? Just discovered your channel and really like it!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwilliams9973 I appreciate it! Hmm… possibly. My limiting factor was time… I didn’t start planning early enough to have this done before moving in!
@mcanultymichelle
@mcanultymichelle 6 ай бұрын
😂❤👍I think I can do it too 🥴
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 6 ай бұрын
+@mcanultymichelle you can! 🍻
@watchyourtonex6989
@watchyourtonex6989 Жыл бұрын
That is 100% a adhesive scraper for getting old adhesive off of concrete it just scrapes the surface you will end up buying that thing if you try to grind concrete with it. Cuz it will take the entire blade to do anything and still wont grind
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+watchyourTONE x it did what I needed it to do and I didn’t have to buy it so…
@JohnnyVoidMusic
@JohnnyVoidMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank the home depo video or the employee did not tell me how to steer this so it throw me 6 feet in to a wall and flipped over.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Johnny void yikes! 😬
@TheCureThatKillz
@TheCureThatKillz 2 жыл бұрын
Should have rented an actual concrete grinder instead of a floor sander with a diamond pad.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+TheCureThatKillz that is the correct machine.
@TheCureThatKillz
@TheCureThatKillz 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelpMeDIY sorry man but it’s not the “correct machine”. I own a concrete coating company and have been in the industry for a very long time. If a floor sander was the correct machine, us professionals would much rather spend $1,500 on a few of those instead of $20K - 50K on actual concrete grinders. You’ll never see professional companies using those to grind concrete, at least you shouldn’t.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCureThatKillz well I’m sure there are bigger and better machines to do this, but I just meant that’s the one that Home Depot rents for this task. Thanks for clarifying
@tylersGBO
@tylersGBO Жыл бұрын
@@TheCureThatKillz so trying to smooth out rough concrete, better to use a grinder and appropriate pads for smoothness?
@jiajia4856
@jiajia4856 Жыл бұрын
@@tylersGBO the machine in the video is the one you can rent from HD. You also need to rent the diamabrush from HD. I’m doing research myself. Planning my work on the garage in July.
@jvandyne3124
@jvandyne3124 Жыл бұрын
Dude floor gone be fucked up all hopping like a rabbit 🐰 In job corps someone would sit on it when we did the floors lol 😂. You can work that with 1 hand 🖐
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+j vandyne 😂 luckily it turned out great!
@alvahb2263
@alvahb2263 Жыл бұрын
They gave u a dina brush lol
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Alvah B 🤷‍♂️
@Greg-Hatman
@Greg-Hatman Жыл бұрын
😂Hold it against your waist, not with your hands out. It will be much smoother running!
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Hatman1974 I did! Hence the bruising 😆
@jaromc9045
@jaromc9045 11 ай бұрын
thats not a grinder, its a floor machine. for sanding and buffing
@MrMechanicandy
@MrMechanicandy 2 жыл бұрын
Well it is definitely not polishing like the machine I have worked on
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+MrMechanicandy polishing? I’m not sure what you mean. It’s a grinder. I was trying to grind and make a rough surface, not polish for a smooth surface
@christianschuessler7318
@christianschuessler7318 Жыл бұрын
First need to know how to operate it without it bouncing like that. You just the handle of the machines in line with your hip and you basically drive the machine with no bounce and you simply controlled the left and right movement with pushing upper down on it at that level takes a little bit to understand, but it should be almost effortless
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got the hand of it eventually
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse Жыл бұрын
Go get a different grinder that one sucks
@g.b.5206
@g.b.5206 4 ай бұрын
I tray this with the sanding paper same machine, it was a nightmare, I could not controlled, waste of moneyed the effect is all ugly scratched, the best way is to give a wash finish the next day of the poor to the acid will also di the job, if you are doing to tile it it will be just fine
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 4 ай бұрын
It works, just takes effort
@marklevenson
@marklevenson 8 ай бұрын
lower your handle some your handle is too high you have to relax and let it ride across the surface doing good for a pilgrim lol
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 8 ай бұрын
+mark levenson yes thanks! 🍻
@EdA-bz3bu
@EdA-bz3bu 2 жыл бұрын
5:40 🤣😂🤣😂. you are convincing me to have a pro do my garage floor with industrial epoxy. What are they about $6/sq. If I ever decide to coat the floor. Currently my garage floor has rough areas and cracking. *Please remember to wear the proper mask no matter how little you think you are inhaling. Silicosis. Your boss(wife) will kick your a$$ if she looks up the dangers. And I will be very sad that something will happen to you, after aaaaall the years I have known you (zero😂).
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Ed A that would be a very reasonable decision 😆
@sunracer1869
@sunracer1869 2 жыл бұрын
1: to 10 Acid & water ratio with the white scrub pad & push broom with a helper moving water & would have been much better. Advice from hom depot employees is like getting advice from kamala Harris.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 2 жыл бұрын
+Capitan Mike 😂
@diehardfan173
@diehardfan173 Жыл бұрын
Laugh out loud, as soon as he said the Home Depot People I was thinking…
@VictorMorales-fh4br
@VictorMorales-fh4br Жыл бұрын
Proof that the captain is not always that smart
@PhillTheGreat
@PhillTheGreat Жыл бұрын
100% right. Never take advice from her, I mean them, or it.
@jonathanwilson2767
@jonathanwilson2767 Жыл бұрын
"How can I bring politics into a comment about grinding concrete"
@craftworker4life314
@craftworker4life314 Жыл бұрын
It’s not dust it’s silica
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Craftworker4Life fair enough
@dejanlovro7997
@dejanlovro7997 11 ай бұрын
Man you have to look video tutorials 😂😂😂
@lordsauto
@lordsauto Жыл бұрын
Leave the handle loose floating way better.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Rob probably right
@daveschinkel7789
@daveschinkel7789 Жыл бұрын
This thing was a bitch to control when ai tried it
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Dave Schinkel 😂 yup
@tddtv
@tddtv Жыл бұрын
I found out mine was literally broken. The from home depot needs to be serviced now and the triggers weren't dropping when I let off them so the machine would not stop. Like how the hell do they rent shit that's broken like that. I have the maker of that machine already calling them, that store to make sure they fix the fucking thing so nobody gets hurt down the road
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
@@tddtv wow, glad they are getting it sorted. What a pain
@ericjohnson829
@ericjohnson829 9 ай бұрын
It doesn't seem like this was even a necessary process.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY 9 ай бұрын
It was very necessary for the coating to stick and not peel!
@twincanons
@twincanons Жыл бұрын
This is not the proper tool to properly grind a prep a floor for epoxy or Poly coatings ,.. ..it does not create a true fresh surface , u need a weighted grinder with at least 80 Grit diamond pads ,..
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
Actually it worked perfectly for my coating.
@glengarbera7367
@glengarbera7367 Жыл бұрын
Just a horrible machine. Buy a werkmaster from Canada.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+Glen Garbera 😂
@dognatious6153
@dognatious6153 Жыл бұрын
Dimabrish recommends water. Blades overheat. Do your research. Also, w water you get a better cut.
@dognatious6153
@dognatious6153 Жыл бұрын
Better grind with a wet grind. I've done over 700 slabs. That eliminates the dust. Home Depot has a wet floor maintainer with a reservoir tank.
@HelpMeDIY
@HelpMeDIY Жыл бұрын
+DOG NATIOUS I’ve heard that, but I’ve also heard people say it was a huge mess and wished they hadn’t.
@JohnBoysGold
@JohnBoysGold Жыл бұрын
If I'm doing a garage thats 10 years old and just need to get off the old carpet glue and prep for GPD hot tire do I need a grinder or can I use a maintainer with pearl, flap, sanding screen progression? I saw your other comment about the sanding screens but afraid they will get worn down in seconds on concrete.
@dognatious6153
@dognatious6153 Жыл бұрын
All concrete slabs are uneven with high spots and low spots. Orbital grinder will hit the high spots and leave the low spots. No contractor in the world can create a perfectly even surface.
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