Heraclius Djabadary - Piano Concerto Op.10

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JCHBONNET

JCHBONNET

13 жыл бұрын

Goraieb / Luxembourg RSO / Froment

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@shtonker8
@shtonker8 10 ай бұрын
Around 26.30 "Mozart abducted on a Camel" fits so well....laughed so hard I fell out of my chair!!! It's hideous it's wonderful!! Oh, the trills, oh, the trills!!! Then, off we go again on the camel...😂
@gerhardg5186
@gerhardg5186 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing that tastes differ. I love this foot-tapping piano concerto. The fact that many other people don't, is immaterial. Millions of people don't like classical music, yet I do. Any concerto that gives me pleasure is OK, and this one does.
@sw3aty_forte
@sw3aty_forte 2 жыл бұрын
The people who dislike this do so not because it is classical but because it is a tasteless farce.
@oliverbostridge8370
@oliverbostridge8370 4 жыл бұрын
I was sent here by David Hurwitz. The concerto certainly does not disappoint XD - utterly hilarious.
@richardmeredith6569
@richardmeredith6569 3 жыл бұрын
Well put! This isn't the worst piece of music I've come across on KZfaq -- that accolade I would reserve for Sorabji's Jami Symphony -- but it is the most amusing.
@SaintSaens0
@SaintSaens0 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Davids review, it was funny.
@toucc9638
@toucc9638 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaintSaens0 yeah, funny, and nothing more
@psijicassassin7166
@psijicassassin7166 Жыл бұрын
The works of Morton Feldman and Milton Babbitt are more pretentious and forgettable.
@paulbrower
@paulbrower 9 ай бұрын
Likewise, and I understand. The second movement isn't that bad. The first movement should have been written as a tone poem or the first movement of a symphony -- with no piano! The third movement is unimaginative after a promising start, only to delve into cascading runs on the piano after introducing a colorful theme quickly morphing into a bland accompaniment for some ersatz Saint-Saens or even Liszt.
@derby2510
@derby2510 2 жыл бұрын
This is proto-Yanni composer. Like a proto-New Age. Simple, repetitive piano patterns, cheesy, kind of strumming orchestral, vaguely oriental music and hypnotic pulse. He was a visionary.
@zdl1965
@zdl1965 10 ай бұрын
Its so bad that its good! To think that Djabadary and Prokofiev were born in the same year (1891) and probably knew of each other's existence. Had he lived longer, he might have been Stalin's favourite composer (since both are Georgian!)
@noopieflace
@noopieflace 10 жыл бұрын
Once again KZfaq shows me another unsung composer. It really is a shame composers like this can't find the recognition they deserve!
@awprice123
@awprice123 3 жыл бұрын
This piece is indeed bliss, as David Hurwitz has well appreciated. Its opening shares the exoticism of Delius's Hassan -- but the pianist quickly brings one back to Mozart. The slow movement falls somewhere between Chopin and Richard Clayderman. Not to be missed -- and to be enjoyed in company.
@ericwarncke
@ericwarncke 9 ай бұрын
I like this a hell of a lot. This piece gets trash talked a lot, but I think it's very competent and beautiful. The orchestra is dark but the piano is bright and cheerful. The contrast is so logical. It has elements of Mozart and Ravel and so many others, yet has a distinct identity and style. I don't think this is a bad concerto at all. Quite excellent.
@bowerdw
@bowerdw 7 жыл бұрын
Delightfully different. I am passing through KZfaq discovering so many new works I like I can't keep track of all that I want to revisit even with hitting the thumbs up sign. I hope to revisit this, especially on those occasions where I find works I don't like. I can then look for this work again.
@elkortito9871
@elkortito9871 7 жыл бұрын
you can add videos to personal playlists to keep track of them. press the "Add to" button with the '+' sign next to it,
@bowerdw
@bowerdw 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have only been using the "thumbs up" means of keeping track. I have a large "like" file because of that.
@pietrolandri6081
@pietrolandri6081 3 жыл бұрын
@@bowerdw unfortunately the thumb up playlist is limited by YT to 5,000 pieces and I've long-time gotten to the limit. So, yes, just need to generate and feed a new playlist to keep track of what you like
@SaintSaens0
@SaintSaens0 3 жыл бұрын
This is just, I have no words, I am dying inside, from the theme in the first movement, I just have no words of my pain
@rohinagrawal9727
@rohinagrawal9727 4 ай бұрын
😂
@aldodente1644
@aldodente1644 5 жыл бұрын
Arise from the forgotten world !.....Bravo...
@gaivotaman1
@gaivotaman1 11 жыл бұрын
Great music!! Never heared of this Georgian composer before, but it tastes for more!!! Thanks for spoiling us, yet again!!
@anigamcemlidze4406
@anigamcemlidze4406 4 жыл бұрын
you also can hear Giya yancheli, Georgian composer
@anigamcemlidze4406
@anigamcemlidze4406 3 жыл бұрын
Grödingen & Languages I am so proud of my country 🥰🥰🥰 Thank you 🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️
@mikebutcher2695
@mikebutcher2695 5 жыл бұрын
I have this CD (you can get it through the Quantum label) and have played it many times. The Georgian themes spring out at you and it's a joy to listen to. As with so many other somewhat obscure composers it is well worth recording - Hyperion has an endless supply of romantic and late romantics to continue their Romantic Piano Concerto series for another 30 years!!! Come on Hyperion - starts putting more out. How about aiming for 6 a year????? 😀
@Serkin76
@Serkin76 Жыл бұрын
True, I'm finding a lot of totally unknown composer simply AMAZING on YT...
@DavidA-ps1qr
@DavidA-ps1qr 2 жыл бұрын
As Alfred Lord Tennyson said "It's better to have tried and failed than never tried at all".
@arahovanessian7042
@arahovanessian7042 6 жыл бұрын
Heraclius DJABADARY, Georgian composer (1891-1937). Concerto in A major for piano and orchestra opus 10 composed in 1921. Pianist Henri GORAIEB Conductor Louis de FROMENT with `Orchestre Symphonique de RTL` Recorded at `Studios de Radio-Tele-Luxembourg` in 1980. 1. Maestoso 2. Adagio-romance 3. Allegro-rondo
@rxboy
@rxboy 2 жыл бұрын
"Camel Procession" - D. Hurwitz 😂😂😂
@kovacsviki8660
@kovacsviki8660 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this :)
@ozgoodel.9645
@ozgoodel.9645 4 жыл бұрын
Great music!
@plto4ka71
@plto4ka71 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Beautiful music.
@javiertw89
@javiertw89 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@777wallaby777
@777wallaby777 11 жыл бұрын
wow 0_0, c'est génial!!!
@ManveliLeon
@ManveliLeon Жыл бұрын
ერეკლე ჯაბადარი - Héraclius Djabadary, Georgian public figure, composer October 17, 1891, Tiflis - August 18, 1937 ♥
@alexandrecosta4016
@alexandrecosta4016 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a tour - here and there Delius, Schuman, Liszt, Chopin, S, Saens, even Amadeus....I woud call it "Rhapsody-Music Souvenir" of Classics in a Good Humour Afternoon close to a fireplace and a white Cat....Cheers.
@Ohmyoink
@Ohmyoink 12 жыл бұрын
vraiment, il est magnifique Djabadary...
@marcsmith7789
@marcsmith7789 5 ай бұрын
There are aspects of this piece that I admire - the attempt to blend traditional Georgian music with a Western Classical Orchestra, the colorful orchestration, and the rhythms. The piano writing feels anachronistic and is not particularly inspired. The writing in places is clumsy, sometimes a bit boring, and sometime goofy, but that doesn't mean it deserves so much scorn. I think some of this criticism of this piece, comparing it to a "camel procession" is not merely uncharitable, it strikes me as problematic. The man was trying to integrate the music of his homeland, a region where the musical tradition is influenced from Persian, Armenian and Turkish music. I think that was an admirable goal. To dismiss this piece as "camel music" is an ugly and frankly ignorant thing to say. If all you think of is camels when you hear music influenced by traditional Georgian music, perhaps you need a geography lesson-- and a lesson on respect for non-western musical traditions.
@sandrotigishvili4393
@sandrotigishvili4393 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Do you have other things from him as well? Wonderful music...
@MsVerlinden
@MsVerlinden 9 жыл бұрын
À Tbilissi, Géorgie est né : Heraclius Djabadary (1891-1937) : compositeur (Rhapsodie géorgienne)
@ImWalde
@ImWalde 3 жыл бұрын
(Writing this before watching Hurwitz as to not get biased) The 1st subject has a catchy and bouncy theme. I find the piano entry in the first movement quite interesting. A clever reworking of the main theme into a lighter mood while the orchestra accompaniment retains its exotic and percussive quality. The 2nd subject is a dramatic change in style from the 1st subject like it was copy pasted from another work - it doesn't quite work for me. the brass in this movement are quite... interesting? Not the best piano writing as well. He got a good theme going, he just ran it into the ground.
@mariatyulkina9931
@mariatyulkina9931 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly,melodically purely from a thematic material sense we surely seen worse! The issue is the pianistic element which is poor at best,some ...strange rhythmical gestures ,overall poor orchestration ,development and narrative. I can say there were some descent harmonic progressions
@SaintSaens0
@SaintSaens0 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the main theme was reworked pretty well but I still think the exotic opening does not match the Mozartian piano entrance. Love your videos by the way.
@toucc9638
@toucc9638 Жыл бұрын
The best piano concerto ever deal with it
@sergiogerardovicogimena6605
@sergiogerardovicogimena6605 9 жыл бұрын
¡ COMO SE NOTA EL GÉNESIS ORIENTAL DE ÉSTA BELLA MÚSICA, PLENA DE CARÁCTER !!! GRACIAS Y FELICITACIONES POR LA PROMOCIÓN DE AUTORES DE ÉSTA ESTÉTICA.- PODRÍAMOS ASIMILARLA CON LAS MARAVILLOSAS OBRAS DE ARAN KHACHATURIAN (DE FORMACIÓN EMINENTEMENTE RUSA), DE NUTRIENTES FOLCKLÓRICAS, SIENDO LAS DE ÉSTE DE MUCHO MAYOR NIVEL.-
@antoniorigoni5648
@antoniorigoni5648 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful music. Thank you!
@GiantPetRat
@GiantPetRat 11 жыл бұрын
This is rather nice! I'm glad I stumbled across it. Thanks for the upload!
@marcdekeyser1021
@marcdekeyser1021 9 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE ALMOST FORGOTTEN ROMANTIC PIANOCONCERTO OF A FORGOTTEN COMPOSER. HERACLIUS DJABADARY COMPOSED FINE MUSIC.
@SaintSaens0
@SaintSaens0 3 жыл бұрын
It is an alright concerto, but it does not compare to Von Henselt concerto or Litolff concerto or Saint-Saëns concertos
@arahovanessian7042
@arahovanessian7042 5 жыл бұрын
If interested by other works of Djabadary please check KZfaq with: Henri GORAIEB, Georgian Rhapsody, Op. 2 for Piano and Orchestra by Heraclius DJABADARY.
@paolo5861
@paolo5861 10 ай бұрын
The slow movement is pretty nice...it's absolutely not the worst concerto ever written.
@michaeledwards1172
@michaeledwards1172 9 ай бұрын
When David Hurwitz says things like that, I take it with a bucket of salt. He is funny, amusing, and very knowledgeable about music - but also outrageously opinionated at times, putting forth his own opinion as indisputable fact.
@ultonian63
@ultonian63 3 жыл бұрын
Mozart abducted on a camel.
@thomasjohn5037
@thomasjohn5037 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the funniest comments I've ever seen in my life 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheLuviathan
@TheLuviathan 11 жыл бұрын
Nice ! Je ne connaissais pas ce compositeur !
@waverly2468
@waverly2468 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually not a whole lot worse than the Tchaikovsky Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra op 56. Certainly ahead of its time with an opening that could be the soundtrack for a gladiator movie and some parts that sound like Peter Nero.
@harryandruschak2843
@harryandruschak2843 10 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm.....a new name of a composer to me. WIKI gives dates as 1891-1937). Sounds eastern Europe to my ears
@giuseppedimarco8358
@giuseppedimarco8358 7 жыл бұрын
Great!
@philhomes233
@philhomes233 7 жыл бұрын
A very fine piece, (my opinion, views seem to be divided!!).
@SaintSaens0
@SaintSaens0 3 жыл бұрын
Just listen to that melody when the piano enters 🤢
@toucc9638
@toucc9638 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaintSaens0 10:00
@cxc190
@cxc190 11 жыл бұрын
What a badass name.
@dustyhatkins
@dustyhatkins 8 жыл бұрын
hey, this guy is great - do you have any other music by Djabadary?
@arahovanessian7042
@arahovanessian7042 5 жыл бұрын
If interested by other works of Djabadary please check KZfaq with: Henri GORAIEB, Georgian Rhapsody, Op. 2 for Piano and Orchestra by Heraclius DJABADARY.
@let-me-use-kanji-in-handles
@let-me-use-kanji-in-handles 2 жыл бұрын
Variations on a Hungarian chant!
@sw3aty_forte
@sw3aty_forte 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear
@fabiennemauricette
@fabiennemauricette 12 жыл бұрын
J'adore cette musique, j'ai eu un mal de chien à trouver ce vynil en 83 et ne comprends pas qu'il ne soit pas plus joué et connu.
@Piflaser
@Piflaser 5 ай бұрын
Remembers the music of Gurdjieff and Komitas.
@paulbrower
@paulbrower 9 ай бұрын
It would make sense as a tone poem, but not as a piano concerto. It does grow on me, until I find the piano line superflous. Piano concertos can exude national color and get away with it; I think of concertos by Ravel, Bartok (to an extent), and above all Gershwin... but the concerto is generally the most international of expressions. Example: Tchaikovsky's violin concerto seems much like a slightly-Russian response to Beethoven's concerto, and his first piano concerto (the only one often played) could have been composed by someone not Russian. Tchaikovsky was very Russian, but he also knew when to turn down the Russian-ness. (This makes him the greatest Russian composer before Prokofiev, by the way, and Shostakovich is the Beethoven of the twentieth century when he wasn't writing propaganda as music). This work does grow on me, but I am satisfied that the piano obbligato is a mistake. I'd say take out the virtuoso parts for piano and give them to stringed instruments and spread out the rest throughout the orchestra. Don't get me wrong: I love nationalistic expression in other orchestral and chamber music. I'd love to hear a symphony, piano sonata, or string quartet that exudes Indian, Japanese, or Peruvian musical 'coloration'. The "Yellow River" Concertois awful.
@Petr-Skomorohov
@Petr-Skomorohov 3 жыл бұрын
Назад к Гайдну
@deVriesOP125
@deVriesOP125 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually entertaining in how bad it is
@s1earle
@s1earle Жыл бұрын
Yep, probably true.
@kayhannajmabadi3664
@kayhannajmabadi3664 3 ай бұрын
I also became curious about this piece following Dave Hurwitz. Well , in classical world I have heard worst than this ! I think part of the problem that Hurwitz had might be the direction of Louis de Froment who sometimes was awful.
@julianj47
@julianj47 3 жыл бұрын
Exquisite way of wasting time!
@s1earle
@s1earle Жыл бұрын
Probably why this composer and piano concerto have never been before the public...
@Piflaser
@Piflaser 5 ай бұрын
Music?
@desdequesada
@desdequesada 9 жыл бұрын
To cxc190 : what a malicious expression you gave.
@thomasdavis8117
@thomasdavis8117 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the music of someone who hasn't fully integrated all their influences into a coherent style, and who has a terrible sense of timing.
@s1earle
@s1earle Жыл бұрын
It seems a rather catchy lengthy opening of what Tschaikovsky did in the first few bars of his Piano Concerto 1: Immature work out of its time...
@SirOtter1
@SirOtter1 Ай бұрын
I don't dislike it, but I wouldn't pay cash money for it. Reminds me of a play review by Samuel Johnson - Worth seeing, but not worth going to see.
@chrissahar2014
@chrissahar2014 2 жыл бұрын
Ok first few seconds seem to promise something but then you realize it is an ostinato with a groove and a strange Mozartean tag which dulls one to death. Just seems like a ridiculous copy of Bolero done by some high school composer in love with loops.
@vidarbonsak7855
@vidarbonsak7855 2 жыл бұрын
It's from 1921, so it was composed some years before Ravel's Bolero. To me it sounds like a prototype for new age music. I think Heracules would have thrived in this day and age, composing movie scores and new age stuff. With his music and badass name, he simply was way ahead of his time.
@s1earle
@s1earle Жыл бұрын
@@vidarbonsak7855 Better a writing for a movie stage..., not music to listen and remember.
@Agbeko85
@Agbeko85 11 жыл бұрын
Who knows the naionality of this composer?
@sheldonallanhorseman2379
@sheldonallanhorseman2379 4 жыл бұрын
He is Georgian
@Vikingvideos50
@Vikingvideos50 10 ай бұрын
In the first movement, the piano rarely gets the melody. Odd. And the solo part is so simple.
@songsongsingasong
@songsongsingasong Жыл бұрын
OMG this sounds so bad...
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 2 жыл бұрын
Pas genial!
@grebochess
@grebochess 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a lot of the cheesy rubbish Classic fm put out most of the time. Inspiration for Michael Nyman? I'm surprised if they haven't given it an airing!
@RamShemqmnaAdamianad
@RamShemqmnaAdamianad 3 ай бұрын
The world nitpicking championship must be held here, powered by hilariously geopolitically and culturally ill-informed opinions. Even in the unbelievably diverse and magical world of Classical music, we still choose to follow the impulse to collectively hate something as if there wasn't anything more meaningful to do. It's kinda sad.
@henrygingercat
@henrygingercat 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty dreadful.
@henrygingercat
@henrygingercat 6 жыл бұрын
Actually it is so dreadful it sort of accidentally reverses into a kind of greatness.
@DXman222
@DXman222 6 жыл бұрын
i love this one to be honest. been bumping this for years now
@algi1948
@algi1948 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Owen: Try to open your ears and mind to a music that isn't exactly European. The music scene in Georgia is excellent, and they do produce excellent musicians - also classical. BTW I am far from being a Georgian...
@cabiria0
@cabiria0 4 жыл бұрын
Why exactly is it dreadful??
@vaclavmiller8032
@vaclavmiller8032 4 жыл бұрын
@@cabiria0 It's utterly uninspired, discontinuous and polystylistic to the point of incoherence (probably intentionally), poorly written for the piano, bizarrely structured and up to the ears in tired clichés (just listen to the Mozartian cadential trill at 1:34 - it's just awful). The first movement is perhaps the worst piece of music I have ever heard - I actually burst out laughing at the bizarre and completely unwarranted canon at 0:32.
@Piflaser
@Piflaser 5 ай бұрын
For me really bad piano concertos: Menotti Piano concerto (1945) and Ernest Bloch Concerto Symphonique for piano and orchestra (1948)
@johnleistritz5291
@johnleistritz5291 8 жыл бұрын
Very colorful and entertaining, but lacking depth. Khachaturian did this sort of thing far better.
@towardthesea_
@towardthesea_ 6 жыл бұрын
Khachaturian's music sounds nothing like this...I do agree that it could use more depth but the concept and sound is very original.
@cabiria0
@cabiria0 4 жыл бұрын
What is depth?? If you could define...
@drgustavbakter4735
@drgustavbakter4735 2 ай бұрын
It's also very badly played especially from the pianist side. I wonder what a decent pianist and conductor would make of this work, although that is not very liikey to happen.
@jameshall401
@jameshall401 5 ай бұрын
In my entire lifetime of Classical music, this is by far the worst piano concerto I've ever heard.
@Math_oma
@Math_oma 3 жыл бұрын
Worst theme ever.
@kgroveringer03
@kgroveringer03 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you write a better one
@romanmakarevych4483
@romanmakarevych4483 Жыл бұрын
But it's really funny in the goofiest way possible
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