Herbst Maneuver

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Kings and Generals

Kings and Generals

Ай бұрын

Experience the adrenaline rush of the Cobra Maneuver in action! Watch as skilled pilots perform this dramatic and demanding maneuver at airshows, showcasing their precision and control in the sky. Don't miss out on this thrilling display of aerial acrobatics - subscribe now for more aviation excitement! #herbst #maneuvering #wwu #modernwarfare

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@rnvaamonde
@rnvaamonde Ай бұрын
"hey, can you try this new manouver? We did the math and we're almost sure the pressure on the plane won't make it explode" 😂
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095 Ай бұрын
Exactly how i would have imagined their conversation would be😂
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Ай бұрын
Why would it explode and from what pressure?
@ADB_UWIM_2807
@ADB_UWIM_2807 Ай бұрын
Remember in the short (at the end) where the narrator said the turn is well beyound the aerodynamic limits of conventional aircraft at the time?​@@Arnechk
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford Ай бұрын
​@@Arnechk I think this comment is referring more to "force" than "pressure". An airplane pulling 12+ G even for a second, could be at risk of the wings falling off. Why? Modern combat-ready manned fighter jets have pre programmed G force limits. No matter the training the pilot has, forces over 9G tend to cause the pilot to lose consciousness after a few seconds; this means building the wings to withstand higher G forces would be a waste (adding strength adds weight, and adding weight reduces range, turn performance, climb performance, & acceleration), but there's probably some margin of safety.
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095 Ай бұрын
@@Arnechk aerodynamic pressure, not the literal explotion from flammables and explosive materials, it was used as somekind of a metaphorical phrase. Its literal meaning is for the aircraft to be crushed by the overwhelming pressure of the air during its maneuver, in which the aircraft velocity and g force plays a big part as well.
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
I watched this aircraft at the 1995 Paris air show once and it was mighty impressive. Almost balancing on its tail while moving sideways, I had never seen anything like it and have not since. Amazing aircraft.
@My_Name_Is_Mud.
@My_Name_Is_Mud. Ай бұрын
Do you know what sort of aircraft this is?
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
@@My_Name_Is_Mud. Yes ? It's the The Rockwell-Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm X-31 is an experimental jet aircraft designed to test fighter thrust vectoring technology. I got the information above from Wikipedia but I remember it well when it displayed at Paris. More commonly known as the X-31
@TheRealAaronSmith
@TheRealAaronSmith Ай бұрын
I would have LOVED to see that in person, however, I'm lucky enough to at least seen videos before. Unbelievably impressive and precise technology.
@Novelpwnz
@Novelpwnz Ай бұрын
U should check su27 , with fuel and missiles
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
@@Novelpwnz I know the SU-27 as it displayed at Paris as well with a very well known display pilot from Russia. What I do know is it was in static display until the crew went round it with a spanner to check it was all tight, then pulled it out of the static to a taxiway and did a full display, Very impressive. I have also seen three SU-27 types displaying (flying) doing tailslides and cobras all at the same time at Farnborough in the UK, I have also seen them at Fairford at "R.I.A.T" like I said very impressive but in no way as agile and maneuverable as the X-31 but one is a test aircraft and the other is built for war so completely different but both are impressive in manoeuvrability.
@umueri1877
@umueri1877 Ай бұрын
It mightve helped to show an offside view of the manoeuvre to get a scale of the flight path. Sort of like those scenes from History channels dogfight
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
To give you an idea I watched this aircraft at the Paris airshow and it balanced on its tail while moving sideways (like a crab) and then did a slight tilt and with full power pulling away from the ground in a vertical motion, all from its balancing on its tail at around 150ft. It was massively impressive and I will never forget it.
@vigneshm6922
@vigneshm6922 23 күн бұрын
Loved those shows ❤
@Dokattak
@Dokattak Ай бұрын
US military: “Slap some 300k paint primer, and we’re golden. Not F22 golden, but we’re getting there.”
@user-iz3gv7th6z
@user-iz3gv7th6z Ай бұрын
Slap some *300k glitter paint on it*
@TrySomeFentanyl
@TrySomeFentanyl 28 күн бұрын
I believe the Russian military is better known for slapping paint on equipment and calling it a next generation. We actually design and build modern systems here in the US.
@utkarsh2746
@utkarsh2746 17 күн бұрын
Ah yes that modern F35 that struggles to handle rain. Just a bit over a trillion dollars now, right? Definitely reminds me of the Russians, the USSR era Russians wrecking their economy over military spending and having bases across the world. ​@@TrySomeFentanyl
@paradiseisland69
@paradiseisland69 Ай бұрын
Herbst means Autumn or Fall in German.
@noone4700
@noone4700 Ай бұрын
These shorts are just so damn good!
@luanasari5161
@luanasari5161 Ай бұрын
Me top gun-maxxing:
@StupidFanta
@StupidFanta Ай бұрын
acecombatmaxxing tho
@riley_ae86
@riley_ae86 Ай бұрын
Ew
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Ай бұрын
It’s a bit hard to see with the distant background providing very little reference point, but if I’m understanding this correctly, is the plane basically “stopping” at the height of a climb (hence “post-stall”), then rotating on a dime before burning into its new flight path?
@RealRyanFlynn
@RealRyanFlynn Ай бұрын
Correct
@apieceofstring
@apieceofstring Ай бұрын
It sounds a lot like this is the same as an Immelman, with the differences being that the rollout happens in the middle of the maneuver rather than at the end, and the top of the arc is conducted post-stall... But at the top of an Immelman an aircraft is already unloaded... Whats the benefit of post stall maneuverability if it's just being used in a situation where the aircraft is unloaded anyway? Thrust vectoring is inherently cool, but I feel like there's something missing in the explanation here.
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Ай бұрын
@@apieceofstring for this to be viable it would have to be executed at a very close distance and no missiles. Even if the adversary has no vectoring gimmicks they can do an immelman and be on the tail again. But it looks cool and thats what counts!
@theregalproletariat
@theregalproletariat Ай бұрын
​@@apieceofstringI think PSM tech makes the turn tighter.
@TexasGreed
@TexasGreed Ай бұрын
@@apieceofstring The difference is this is done by committing to a climb that you know will stall you out and knowing your thrust vectoring will allow you to still maneuver at the top. If you know the guy chasing you doesnt have the energy to follow you and he doesnt have thrust vectoring like you then you know youre safe to commit to stalling yourself and thus if the enemy commits too, you stall him as well and can take him out. And if the enemy doesnt follow you into the climb you will still have a positional advantage over him when you turn around because he didnt climb as high as you.
@tedyu1735
@tedyu1735 Ай бұрын
Ahh yes, a new manuver for me to try to perform in an airliner.
@slaughterhouse5585
@slaughterhouse5585 17 күн бұрын
You a pilot for RyanAir?
@sjiz
@sjiz Ай бұрын
The most legendary manoeuvre is Adama Manoeuvre.. when the Battlestar falls through the planet's atmosphere and then jumps (all BSG fans will know :D)
@freddieclark
@freddieclark Ай бұрын
basically an Immelman turn with post stall technology.
@giannismentz3570
@giannismentz3570 Ай бұрын
No.
@user-pe1zs2pn4n
@user-pe1zs2pn4n Ай бұрын
That is absolutely awesome!!!
@red_d849
@red_d849 Ай бұрын
sadly the aircraft got destroyed after a loss of control due to pitot tube icing, making the computer see things incorrectly and try to do something it wasn’t supposed to, which forced the pilot to eject. crashed into the desert
@Overneed-Belkan-Witch
@Overneed-Belkan-Witch Ай бұрын
F22 and F35: Ah yes, the AMRAAM main menu dish manuver
@crypto1146
@crypto1146 26 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🫡
@kookie_krumbs
@kookie_krumbs Ай бұрын
Heck yeah pls do more aviation stuff. Immelmahn, herbst, i dont care keep it coming Edit: spelling
@jezoleum6948
@jezoleum6948 Ай бұрын
Looks like a Flying Goblin Shark
@TheMattC9999
@TheMattC9999 Ай бұрын
😂
@alexandersheridan2179
@alexandersheridan2179 19 күн бұрын
I can see it 😂
@alexandersheridan2179
@alexandersheridan2179 19 күн бұрын
I can see it 😂
@annabackman3028
@annabackman3028 26 күн бұрын
The Cobra isn't meant to turn, it's eventually done to surprise a following aircraft with a quick stop, to let the enemy pass, and you become the follower. The Cobra was a mistake, a little flaw with the Swedish Draken, J35, that super stalled, causing many accidents. However, pilots learned how to control and use it. They called it 'short parade'.
@musikSkool
@musikSkool 17 күн бұрын
"I fly my sky a quarter mile at a time."
@willywonka4340
@willywonka4340 Ай бұрын
Never thought this channel would discuss jet fighter tactics 😂❤
@joseyglesias3743
@joseyglesias3743 Ай бұрын
I am in love 😮 😍 ❤️
@shanegrass889
@shanegrass889 2 күн бұрын
It's also called the Yeager loop
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 Ай бұрын
Those are some straight up battlestar galactica viper mk vii moves.
@howardtreesong4860
@howardtreesong4860 Ай бұрын
This is an Immelmann named after Max Immelmann who did this in the first world war.
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 Ай бұрын
No, an Immelmann is just an over the top u-turn. This maneuver is a stall where the pilot can pick any direction he wants to exit toward.
@giannismentz3570
@giannismentz3570 Ай бұрын
@@duncanmcgee13 It's a u-turn, it's also post-stall. They are totally different.
@sportacus3978
@sportacus3978 24 күн бұрын
C'est un Rockwell MBB X31 a poussé vectorielle. Premier vol 11 Octobre 1990. Motorisation Général Électrique F 404 avec tuyère bidimentionnelle opérant sur les axes de lacet et de tangage.
@overseastom
@overseastom 13 күн бұрын
Thanks mate, I was wondering what model it was. It's beautiful!
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 Ай бұрын
This maneuver was showcased in the ms dos game called janes fighter anthology using the same aircraft.
@TheRyujinLP
@TheRyujinLP 25 күн бұрын
AKA, the gravity is just a state of mind man maneuver
@koimananana
@koimananana 18 күн бұрын
Gotta love vector paddles
@kotaroyamada4272
@kotaroyamada4272 4 күн бұрын
I remember there is another country developing this engine. It is Japan and they are building F3 engine.
@ramonpunsalang3397
@ramonpunsalang3397 10 күн бұрын
Apparently, the F-35 can execute the J-turn
@Furukan455
@Furukan455 Ай бұрын
Postal? **PTSD**
@HopeisAnger
@HopeisAnger Ай бұрын
Look, I'm not a pilot or an expert in this area, but every pilot and expert I've met said "speed is life". If speed is life, then this looks like certain death.
@ryantaylor1142
@ryantaylor1142 Ай бұрын
Great short
@fortiusgomez7216
@fortiusgomez7216 28 күн бұрын
I guess I found the maneuver of the game Modern Warplanes.
@nicolaspeigne1429
@nicolaspeigne1429 Ай бұрын
When you don't know where to go so you stop in midair and look around
@DOCBIGB
@DOCBIGB 17 күн бұрын
It also contributed to emphasis on pre flight check routines as frost pedotube led to catastrophic failure of one of two x31 which were predecessors of eurofighter typhoon.
@bashbish4564
@bashbish4564 Ай бұрын
🇩🇪 🇺🇸
@armymanaka360
@armymanaka360 Ай бұрын
ac main character energy
@glike2
@glike2 Ай бұрын
VECTOR X-31 flight test program was an incredible experience for me and an amazing international team to work with including the Boeing engineers and program management.
@-_Random_-.
@-_Random_-. 6 күн бұрын
i am a new subscriber, can you please do a Kvovhur bell maneuver?
@mrmattdoesstuff
@mrmattdoesstuff 20 күн бұрын
Ngl, imma try this in war thunder 😂😂😂
@chrissheppo
@chrissheppo Ай бұрын
Ofcourse it would be a German to invent this.
@TheGamingMotionTGM
@TheGamingMotionTGM Ай бұрын
Herbst in german means "fall" as in fall season before winter. Unless if the inventor of this manuever is named Herbst.
@denniskrenz2080
@denniskrenz2080 Ай бұрын
​@@TheGamingMotionTGMit is, as the short tells you. Wolfgang Herbst was among the pioneers of Post-stall technology and initiator of the precursor of the X-31 already, the Rockwell SNAKE. He died two years before the X-31 executed one of his maneuvers in real life.
@BrianHollingerSHTF
@BrianHollingerSHTF 22 күн бұрын
So the "I almost fucking crashed" was named the Herbst Maneuver? Got it.
@JamesM-pu8bl
@JamesM-pu8bl Ай бұрын
This is the shit I pull in war thunder arcade battles
@dutchdragon2472
@dutchdragon2472 Ай бұрын
It's easier in realistic, since in arcade you basically don't stall. Ironic, right?
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Ай бұрын
@@dutchdragon2472 even easier in sim where the enemy cannot just point and click at you.
@dutchdragon2472
@dutchdragon2472 Ай бұрын
@@Arnechk Yeah, snapping to targets is infinitely easier with mouse control. Though you won't lose anything yourself since you basically need full real for the maneuver anyway.
@ABCXYZG
@ABCXYZG 26 күн бұрын
i do this in game mostly, never knew it got a name lol
@user-hi7jk6fu3f
@user-hi7jk6fu3f Ай бұрын
The pilot casually absorbing negative g’s at the end of the maneuver 🙃🙂
@ThinkingPear410
@ThinkingPear410 29 күн бұрын
I don’t think the pilot would be subjected to much negative g’s at that point as the plane looks very slow, it is more of a problem in the first part but with positive g’s. I’m not an expert though
@nobodyisbest
@nobodyisbest Ай бұрын
There's a video online of an F-22 performing a similar almost 180 degree turn.
@nguyensonbinh8621
@nguyensonbinh8621 Ай бұрын
Could you do video about weapon during vietnam war?
@user-fv3wp7pz3t
@user-fv3wp7pz3t Ай бұрын
I bet this is what those ufo sightings where they say, “it changed directions, impossibly fast!” Actually are
@Mr2915Official
@Mr2915Official Ай бұрын
This maneuver works pretty good in Warthunder.
@floatingsandbox6147
@floatingsandbox6147 24 күн бұрын
its also related to the immelman turn
@stelleratorsuprise8185
@stelleratorsuprise8185 24 күн бұрын
Interesting ... Btw.: I first thought it was an April's Fool joke, 'cause the name Herbst Manouver was a very common nane for NATO manouvers in Autum (Hebst) so I did some research in Wikipedia Dr. Wolfgang Herbst was killed during an accident in a scaled down replica of a FW190.
@angelmarinarenas5626
@angelmarinarenas5626 25 күн бұрын
I once did this in a dogfight (I forgot in what game, I think it was war thunder) and everyone just gave up after I launched 3 missiles and got 3 kills (it was 1v6)
@KennethArriola
@KennethArriola Ай бұрын
Ah, another awesome maneuver that would most likely get you killed in an actual dogfight 😂
@maybe4549
@maybe4549 Ай бұрын
You know shit is real when they include pitch down in the maneuver, instead of an inverted pitch up💀
@MuteSpider63393
@MuteSpider63393 27 күн бұрын
Bro, this maneuver doesn’t require any thrust vectoring whatsoever. Infact you don’t even have to post stall. It’s literally just going vertical and applying some of the rudder. Almost like 1 circle fights exist
@rosemaryandrews1347
@rosemaryandrews1347 22 күн бұрын
Oh wow !!
@traviscaines8534
@traviscaines8534 Ай бұрын
You would be trading off all momentum and virtually starting from zero. A very energy expensive maneuver.
@overseastom
@overseastom 13 күн бұрын
This jet is beautiful - can any of y'all identify it for me?
@ramuz-ff3cf
@ramuz-ff3cf Ай бұрын
verdadero mucho gracias
@hungryhungryplatypus8602
@hungryhungryplatypus8602 Ай бұрын
Wolfgang wore his brown flight suit that day.
@jay_tripp
@jay_tripp 26 күн бұрын
Having this accent 100% of the time would be exhausting
@d261_gaming8
@d261_gaming8 Ай бұрын
Think of it as a sharp u turn that is corrected with thrust
@jermany8019
@jermany8019 16 күн бұрын
Try not to ace combat challenge (impossible + gone wrong) ☠️
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 Ай бұрын
Does he ever turn off the afterburner ??
@junkiat8328
@junkiat8328 Ай бұрын
Hollup isn’t Messerschmitt the guy who designed the first jet plane which is also called the Messerschmitt?
@sjoerdjuxta
@sjoerdjuxta Ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@bulletbullet3280
@bulletbullet3280 Ай бұрын
Love the x31 so sad it was canceled
@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772
@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Ай бұрын
ngl I thought it's J-10A
@bulletbullet3280
@bulletbullet3280 Ай бұрын
@@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 it was a joint cooperation between America and Germany in building this jet you can tell because it looks foreign
@Hexstream
@Hexstream Ай бұрын
Reminiscent of Starfox 64...
@Bryan-cd9cl
@Bryan-cd9cl Ай бұрын
The question is...why They not produced this aircraft in Serial 😢
@longnosedog1487
@longnosedog1487 24 күн бұрын
Herps? I have the Herps big time😀
@pvajit1109
@pvajit1109 25 күн бұрын
Flat spin executed by Su57 is more Impressive. The wings of this aircraft would fall off if it tried that. Flat spin gives Su57 360 degrees attack capabilities. Remember, Fighter jets need high angle of attack for its guns. However 360 degrees attack access is more useful for launching missiles at chaser and hypersonic AA missiles are end of an engagement.
@justincase5272
@justincase5272 Ай бұрын
Yeah, well, in the bush we perfected a similarly effective, 3D canyon turn by combining it with a whifferdill, all while keeping both bank and pitch within FAA non-aerobatic requirements.
@HelioLhama
@HelioLhama 13 күн бұрын
No acrobatics that leave you at 0 energy will be effective in real combat. Reversing your circle on a simple roll is already enough angular stability to make a gun or fox 2 solution viable. Edit: unless REALLY specific scenarios not even the all mighties of the thrust vectoring Flankers have been using any post stall manoeuvre in recent air combat
@ashtonia
@ashtonia Ай бұрын
Janes ATF. That is all ❤
@NestorKYAT
@NestorKYAT Ай бұрын
What sim is this?
@shroom903
@shroom903 11 күн бұрын
Giving up a lot of energy
@ReemFireGaming
@ReemFireGaming Ай бұрын
Can you try this in War thunder 😂
@Snipergoat1
@Snipergoat1 Ай бұрын
Looks like another variation on the yo yo. A Method of making a fast turn during aerial combat since before WW2. The thrust vectoring might add a bit of a twist to it but the form and execution look almost identical.
@BillKermanKSP
@BillKermanKSP Ай бұрын
For the Herbst Maneuver you need a TWR of >1, which I doubt any WW2 plane would have had
@androidrebel
@androidrebel Ай бұрын
Is it a really useful manoeuvre anyway? It would bleed out all speed and leave the plane to accelerate almost from standstill...
@chibidakis1
@chibidakis1 Ай бұрын
Ace combat 4 fans know this maneuver 💀
@beowulfhrothgar
@beowulfhrothgar Ай бұрын
This aircraft looks like J10
@gabriel.giorno
@gabriel.giorno Ай бұрын
drones soon will be able to do these tests, no need to risk pilots life anymore
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Ай бұрын
👍👍
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD Ай бұрын
the cobra is most viable in dog fights with planes that only have guns.
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker Ай бұрын
I had assumed they meant modern BVR type engagements they would have aircraft releasing their missiles and then going elsewhere.
@off_grid_javelin
@off_grid_javelin Ай бұрын
A looping cobra or kvochurs bell can do pretty much that as well
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
I watched this aircraft fly at the Paris airshow in 1995 and trust me it can do a heck of a lot more weird and amazing twists and turns than just this video. I watched it balance on its tail while moving sideways then pulling away virtually it was unbelievable all at around 150-200 ft it just blew my mind as a kid.
@JohnViinalass-lc1ow
@JohnViinalass-lc1ow 17 күн бұрын
whew!
@annedejong1040
@annedejong1040 Ай бұрын
mig 29 and it's in Maverick's Su-57ish
@that_Dominic_guy
@that_Dominic_guy 19 күн бұрын
Where are the stabilizers and elevators
@manwitduhplan
@manwitduhplan Ай бұрын
trying use this in warthunder is how to get severe damage almost instantly
@saschapriyambodo7250
@saschapriyambodo7250 Ай бұрын
Ace Combat pilots : "Noobs."
@Generalsabre
@Generalsabre 24 күн бұрын
Belkan.
@cap.meruwkateklimana8321
@cap.meruwkateklimana8321 Ай бұрын
I wanted to be featured in Ace Combat 8!!!
@Kosh800
@Kosh800 11 күн бұрын
Those negative Gs are giving me a head ache just watching it.
@user-ot4ch4qh9c
@user-ot4ch4qh9c Ай бұрын
litteraly a russian cobra, that was made famous by the russians
@spaceageGecko
@spaceageGecko Ай бұрын
The cobra isn’t Russian.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink Ай бұрын
How much better or worse than a simple Immelman turn? Looks to bleed all the speed which Immelman at least turns into altitude.
@gamergaming6604
@gamergaming6604 13 күн бұрын
Belkan witchcraft technology
@eduardblackbeard3913
@eduardblackbeard3913 Ай бұрын
That engine was not thrust vectoring lol
@Alexei-oc1he
@Alexei-oc1he Ай бұрын
цирковой номер для 1993 года за счёт тяги двигателя и угла атаки с переворотом благодаря носовым закрылкам
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Ай бұрын
In the modern sense then no, but it was thrust vectoring as the "doors" at the back deflected the thrust so the aircraft could perform outlandishly crazy turns that Many others could not at the time. Remember it was a test and demonstration aircraft so was developed to different standards as other aircraft but in the general sense it did have "thrust vectoring" as it was built for testing just that.
@PhullyNo1
@PhullyNo1 Ай бұрын
Then the X31 fell from the sky. Thee end.
@Hopeforhumans
@Hopeforhumans Ай бұрын
I couldn't get it, I need a drawing
@sunayansamanta5454
@sunayansamanta5454 18 күн бұрын
😮
@Bezanthemum
@Bezanthemum Ай бұрын
The visuals on this video are severely lacking. Show the actual maneuver in a way we can see what’s happening.
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