Actually, the deeper I went about these technologies, the more I realized they r completely not as explained and have soooo many limitations and issues (That includes all technologies not just aircrafts)

Yes, but there is lote of limitations to work it

Don’t forget. This *was* the technology they weren’t telling us about, fool.

There are anything they not telling us cuz other nations are a part of the program. And all the tech was stolen by China anyways 😂

They claimed everything about U2 spy plane before it was brought down by Soviet Union 😄

If you look closely you can see the truck nuts hanging off the back of the plane too!

Ikr? But I wonder why it’s not needlessly oversized without any benefits to boost the pilots ego

Typhoon already had this

​@@MaticTheProto r/fuckcars

@@aniket1816 indeed

Eeexactly😂

Yeah, highly secret ha

Era secreta, ahora hay otra "arma secreta" y así sucesivamente

My guess billions

Story also told by some Russian journalist 😂😂😂

Source?

I read it was between 40 & 50 years. Night vision (or thermal imaging) was supposedly found in the Roswell crash. Foo fighters (the balls of whatever,,that buzzed allied aircraft), probably Nazi design. I dont know how much of it I believe, i doubt roswell was a ET craft, but communist or nazi craft. The germans were the most intelligent, fantastic engineers, in the world. Hence the race to drag them off to US/Soviet installations, in return for immunity. Injecting blue dye into children's eyes, and the USA/Soviet Union gives you immunity, as long as you build weapons...

​@@catalindeluxus8545Google it, ffs. Sourthhhh ?🤤

50

I'm almost certain there is tech discovered decades ago we will never hear about.

Puh-leeze Enough with the Area 51 stuff and how the government is holding technology that's years and years ahead only to reveal it at a layer date... you've been watching too much Independence Day

Yea. The entire world's military probably knew this 10 yrs ago. Still cool to see tho

@@dougstyles 30 years ago they knew it

Bases on the Moon. Gravity drive. Force fields and Phasers. Now, they're going to kill me.

That goes the same for all technology

yeah this is pretty much a smaller ALQ-131pod mixed with MALD tech , I wonder what the effect envelope would be

The ALE-50 towed decoy. It can be mounted on a bunch of aircraft. I would guess this is a next gen version using the computing and sensor power of the F-35.

Its much more effective on a stealth aircraft of course, since the f16 itself would be a big glowing target that would be much harder for the decoy to copy.

@@amazin7006of course

What is sead

I don't remember how nixie works though I'm familiar with the degaussing system but ultimately I was a lowly en2. Where my day to day job was used as punishment for deck apes and the AC rates.

Towed array system.

Clancy talks about it Nixie in Red Storm Rising.

Maybe it’s updated

These magnetic antennas for detecting submarines under water, I know for sure that they were in the 60s in the Russian Navy aero flot

От кого? От Зимбабве?))) ...давно есть противооружие уже.

Don't worry, it wasn't mentioned in the film 'Maverick'. Still a secret! 😂

@@I___ No one asked for your opinion Russian

It's not secret... It's not new. Half the world has it

The secret is in the signals it emits. Things like this have been done for before, the F16 did had had a pod that acted as a decoy when doing seed. There are also cruise missiles that are used as decoys/scramblers. The secret is not in THAT it happens, but in HOW it happens.

Skootz why does your channel have zero content? I clicked you looking for further entertainment. I was not entertained.

😂😂

@@dustin66896 Dustin, same thing. Why you got no content? I need entertainment.

​@@DustDevilRage If you want to see a K'nex roller coaster my channel is not empty. Hope it helps ;)

And will work just as well

They’re watching,the secret squirrels are out there.

What have you been told that would in any way help with defeating what the Decoy does? They have been used since the late 80's

Egg zuktli

despite* 🤣 wtf is inspite

And the opponents too. :)

@@kinnymane8593 Despite and in spite of are both prepositions meaning “regardless of,” “even though,” or “notwithstanding.” They can be used interchangeably.

They like to give that impression but remember they didn’t see 911 coming

The secret is that this "secret" is a decoy.

R&D from US defense projects has led to tons of technology we use today. (Internet, GPS, EpiPens, and so much more)

​@@Sentinel_ICBM100%. Came to say the same thing. Also microwave ovens... Although, I'm not sure they're real. I mean - place food inside, mmmmmmmm, ding - wtf??

@@Ryan-lk4pu Yes! If I recall there were a number of inventions that also came from NASA's efforts in the 60s. Laptops, digital cameras, scratch resistant coatings, and the epic F-1 (which ironically we no longer know exactly how to make!)

And spending hard earned tax payers dollars. Because let's face it. Only the working and middle class pay taxes these days. Billionaires and corporations don't pay anything like a fair share anymore

Well, if you some enough money into anything as much as we sync money into wars, then you would expect some cool shit wouldn’t you?

It is.

The F-18C f-16, and the F-111 had this

Yea I was gonna say it seems like they could’ve done this 10 years ago. Pretty simple design with just a fiber optic cable that sends out pulses to “distract” missiles

The tow decoy system has been around for a long time for sure. Not just in fighters.

Lol, correct. It is called a towed array... Everything from ships and submarines to advanced missiles have them

I Love the antiquated concept of torpedo nets from a century ago. I seriously think there could be modern applications for it, if someone would bother with it. I don't see why the concept couldn't be expanded to an airborne platform as well, floated by drones, with high-tensile nets that are either high-explosive or discharge electrical current- hitting an incoming missile with our own missile leaves _zero_ margin for error, while deploying high tech nets gives at least _some_ margin. Plus, when our defensive missile misses, it's speeding out of the area, while loitering nets stretched between drones, would still be there, ready for follow-up salvos. I also don't see why we can't design loitering drones with CIWS, so that CIWS doesn't have to be a last-ditch defense.

Canadian method against germans torpedos few hours after the first use.

The Nixie!

The CIWS is like 13 tons, requires water and 3 phase 440VAC. You'd need a C130

@@ryanmartin4602 Nixie indeed!

Lmao! I hate it when people use expressions or a turn of phrase wrong.

"Washington and his generals looked at the situation [in Delaware], they looked at how it could happen, and when they [took stock of their resources] the men didn't have enough shot or powder to even fight. Washington said "all is lost." Then he said, "get me Robert Morris." " -Oliver deMille, "The Four Lost American Ideals"

*reusable chaff i think

@@Nightmare-kg7xdyeah chaff I think would be more accurate as this sounds to be radar based and not infrared based.

@@Nightmare-kg7xd reusable decoy

Nah FOTDs aren't reusable but there are multiple loads carried from 4-12 decoys depending on the aircraft size

@@RainKing048 fancy decoy better now?

Bro is 💯 0

It actually makes the missile do a U turn and hit whatever launched it.

Final countermeasure is the sound of Tom Cruise yelling "BREAK RIGHT!"

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“They work very well” against cave dwellers in Afghanistan I’m sure they do.

Great! Now I have another curiousity that'll never be satisfied 🙂

​@@PsychonauticExplorer Wait until you learn about the radar spoofing missiles that can ping back a variety of signatures including multiple war planes until a HARM missile is deployed and takes out their radar entirely.

Yup. The B1B has had this for decades.

Tell us. Give us something a little more. I heard they can shoot a bunch of drones that all have the same signature so no one would ever know which one is the correct one.

I know, shit was insane first hearing about it

yeah it sounds pretty similar.

Conn sonar, torpedo in the air torpedo in the air Sonar? Sir we are in a plan- 500kg of tnt proceeds to destroy the f35

Towed decoys are nothing new. The AN/ALE-50 was deployed in 1995.

Nothing new, the lil Gripen per example already had one for decades now

That is a different thing - you are thinking of MALD, where this sort of tech is on a cruise missile

"secret weapon" is a figure of speech, it just means something you keep up your sleeve as a last resort or as a trump card, it doesn't necessarily refer to a weapon system

Its alien technology being used to progress ours

@@angelguia4523 Ah yes, those "aliens" who've travelled unimaginable distances to visit us, only to crash when they get here, AND somehow manage to do it in some areas remote enough to cover it the evidence before anyone actually seeds it - those aliens. Given that they can't help crashing into the USA, why don't they ever crash into Times Square, (for instance)?

Alien tech...🤫

120 years is a long long time. That's several lifetimes worth of thinking, testing and creating, multiplied by hundreds of thousands of people. A year is a long time if you focus on something and direct all efforts toward it... a decade... Half a century?

@@AussieDubber There's always one know all...who doesn't know as much as they think they do.

my man, you don't know what a couple of E/G18's with TALDs can do. the F35 can just sit back and shoot as necessary, playing mini spicy AWACs for them.

Drone swarms around planes will be the future. It’s going to be like smart, flying armor. Every plane will have a little bubble of drones around it

yeah the f-35 is actually bonkers, decades ahead of what anyone else will be doing

Actually, they already have the missile version of this. A heavy bomber could carry a dozen of these decoy/jammers to cover for it.

You have just described the MALD. Look it up

29 years.... AN/ALE-50 - first flown on F-16 in 1995....

It doesn't matter if your weapons are good enough though! MURRICA FUK YA!

Engineers make the weapons that’s the difference. You can’t bullshit your way into engineering

Maybe if you pay them as much as we overpay for the weapons

@@danielhernandez-vo9zc laughs in Boeing

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 🤣🤣🤣

😂

This. It's not very good.

Ah yes, the old "F-35 expensive" line. Ooh, maybe you can go with "Technology will never beat a skilled pilot", or "the F-35 can't dogfight" next...

​@@jon2922Don't forget the good old "It's not stealthy because low frequency radars can detect it!"

@@m01mast3r show me, how this invisible aircraft will operate without very visible airfield? :D i would attack anything where it can land...what then?

They already know.

Or they are prying for more information by posting stupid stuff and other reply to it

OBVIOUSLY anything on KZfaq is known. Come on now let's be real. To show how challenged KZfaqrs are you got 29 thumbs up 29 people plus you are fucking clueless!

Like the taxpayers money in ukraine and now israel and illegal people coming in the usa

I want you to look up USA spending pie chart. It will blow your mind.

Our mass majority of spending IS social welfare. Not Military.

Have you heard of Kurt Tucholsky? He was famously quoted by the 'peace movement' in Germany. Surprisingly they forgot of the second half of the quote. I wonder why: "Imagine there is war and nobody joins in" - "then the war will pay a visit to YOUR home". I hope the translation is accurate enough.

Imagine they didn't have to because of despotic undemocratic totalitarian nobheads

So have the British

@@MSkallywagg Yeah I think they started development in '87 and had it on the Tornado since the early 90´s and on the Typhoon from ~'95 or so.

It should be mentioned however that the ALE-70 on the F-35 is said to be a generation ahead of the older ALE-55. There’s also the fact that the decoys jamming ability gets a boost purely because it’s connected to an F-35 and can use its jamming array.

@@swiffersweatjet7815 Actually, how it works is that whenever it detects an incoming threat, the decoy transformes into a bald eagle that rips the incoming missile apart in its vibranium claws. xD But fun aside, I don't doubt that decoy on the F-35 is pretty advanced stuff, wouldn't surprise me if its a little ahead of the british stuff too. All this thing is missing is a proper long range missile like Meteor or so, and it will be unstoppable :D

@@hernerweisenberg7052 yeah, while the AMRAAM is a solid missile it’s starting to get outdated, but there are currently like 6 projects in the U.S. focused on fielding a replacement for the AMRAAM and they are all doing some interesting stuff. These missiles should go into production within the next few years iirc.

you can’t

This isn't the only plane with this technology. And US isn't the only country using these kind of decoys either.

@@perwestermark8920 Name me one other fighter with a quad-computing processor bank with the largest threat library in the world, that has a VLO airframe, and towed decoys.

@@LRRPFco52 Do you always invent stupid questions? You tried to align the question based on the "mention any other F35 plane that is better than the F35 plane"? Just so you can claim "but that isn't a F35 plane". Maybe sit down and ask yourself why your ego is so fragile that you need to try to ask biased questions.

@@perwestermark8920 Nothing to do with ego, just countering your claim of other planes with this technology. Keep in mind I’ve been in aerospace and defense since the 1970s specific to fighters and their weapons systems and sensors, so I see a lot of comments from people who have zero experience in this field, but I’m always learning more and wondering what other fighter has the same type of technology as the F-35, especially with regard to these types of countermeasures.

They probably already do

They program time limit on arming and it does not find a new target in about 12 seconds it self detonates

If air to air the plane that launched is also moving. Unless they had it update live. Also the this reminds me almost exactly of the opening scene of Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning lol

If you are talking about SAM launch the redirected missile would have long lost its energy before it returned to sender, if that scenario were even possible

Are we talking about the M2 Bradley? Oh... the F35. Yeah, they airplane version of the Bradley.

@@subtlename2873Yup. Like a Bradley with wings.

Bullshit. It does most of them well.

I know. Good luck keeping this thing flying for any length of time

@@theophany1770 Ha! Introduced in 2006 it's now 2024! Lol!

Is the Ukraine getting armaments for their falcons? 🤣

@@alexandermaynard5386??

Probably friendly fire scenarios And he probably mean partner turn to enemy, how many time outside of Iraq?

@@02suraditpengsaeng41 yep! Like when the Iranians reverse engineered the aim-54 to build their Fakour 90 kinda situation. There was a time that the tomcats (and armaments) were exported. Was wondering if this would be a similar situation

They got very close, but I know what your alluding to. Easy to close in to a Typhoon because its a huge bloop on the radar screen.

i would love that

I’m sure there is an older long-form video on it already. Also, *Rex’s Hanger* is another great channel for aviation technology/history videos.

It was made of wood? It's not insane engineering,

@@lokalkakan well Don't you think that making an entire aircraft cable of flying vast distances and carring ordinance Complete the Out of Wood Is Not impressive?

There's already one put there.

😂😂😂

They do..if the aircraft picks up any enemy radar, the aircraft will send missiles to the exact enemy location. At the end of the day an enemy radar system is a nice way to reveal their location for the aircraft to automatically take out..

This old technology

Ha. I’m Irish. Watch it!!

I was tinkin' tha same 😂

Don't take the piss pal

See most people using the English language are definitely not "creating such fantastic technology"

Hey don’t call me out like that

Apostrophe? 98% of comments I see posted on the internet are devoid of ‘periods’, commas, capital letters where appropriate, sentence structure in general, spelling…..you name it relative to anything resembling the English language and it isn’t there. Speaking of ‘there’…. misuse of there/their, then/than, it’s/its. I could prolly😉 keep going.

@@pistolgripswho cares it’s a comment section not a dissertation

@@Aaron-wq3jz it’s not that I care. I get a good laugh out of fools like you.

It's literally not.

Drones with AI are the future.

the U.S. is already developing drone wingmen for the F-35, NGAD, and F/A-XX.

Just yesterday I saw something somewhere about F16s getting fully turned into drones.

@@fredflintstone8569”Drones with AI” Were those what those fictional SkyKillers in Terminator were? 😅

Keep dreaming. Only good for paperweight.

Paperweight. Keep dreaming.

The jets already dominated the map in BF4 if you were any good. The only times I ever hit a jet with my launcher was when they were flying too low to deploy flares in time and I timed my shot perfectly, so I stopped carrying it. Even then, they could just eject, hit me with a sniper, and jump right back in. 😂

@@RM_VFX yes I remember the rendesniping servers. I still loved jet combat in that game and think the more weapons and deployable countermeasures the better. The F-35 can carry 6 missiles, and 2 laser guided bombs among 8 other built in weapon stations in real life

I know for a fact the F-16 uses it.

lol

No no if you're a US enemy please do use this code. I promise it's this simple and your system will work.

Bro wrote his first hello world yesterday

Comment section iq comment

"How did we not think of this before"

Yea no argument here on the absolutely criminal inefficiency getting this thing up to snuff. But the jury is still out on whether it’s ineffective or not. We wouldn’t know that until we were involved in a major conflict. It seems Israel’s F-35s are doing just fine currently. Either way, it is certainly a world class platform. Just how good it really is, if it’s “worth” the cost…time will tell. I’d rather have it than not have it, but that’s a low bar to clear given the circumstances.

Bro believes the russian propaganda lmao

F-22 > F-35 Should have just stuck with them

@@elibnem4126 Hmmm almost like there is a reason... But no, a random in a comment section said so, so it must be true

@@elibnem4126 they serve different purposes. F-35s are more like generals on the field whereas F-22s are the tip of the spear. I suppose they could have spent a fortune giving the f-22 similar capabilities but I don’t know enough to know if it’s even feasible. Either way I’m a big F-22 fan as well!

What it does isn't the secret.. how it does it is.

Who did it??

Name please?

The "genius" is in the Manufacturing Engineering staff....I worked Quality on the production floor...I can tell you it's one thing for the "eggheads" 😉 in Design Engineering to come up with something "on paper," but it's an entirely different equation for MFG Eng. to figure out how to build reproducable, dependable hardware in the real world. ❤

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Stenn333 there is nothing genius about designing something without close coordination with mfg

Most technology is a fairly simple concept really. Radar and guidance systems are really simple concepts. It's a matter of just having the correct materials to make it feasible.

F-35s fly 25-40nm from each other, not in close formation.

According to my father who was an f4 pilot in Vietnam and later on in an f15, did indeed have jammers and been around for decades

Everybody in AFROTC wanted to be a pilot. Always the coveted dream job.

If only the program managers and engineers had thought of that.

Golly, I hope they thought to test that. /s

There are at least 35 years of towed decoy institutional knowledge, flight testing, and operational use in combat. The tethers work just fine.

​@@michaelrains64295it's fiber glas

Are you suggesting that the Rafale got towed decoys first? Maybe compared to the F-35 considering the SPECTRA system had its first flight before the F-35 reached IOC, but decoys could’ve been in its design before then, but the U.S. has had towed decoys for decades, the F-18E/F and B-1 have had them since 1995.

@@swiffersweatjet7815 The SPECTRA system is considered superior to traditional towed decoys for several reasons: 1. **Adaptability:** SPECTRA is a comprehensive electronic warfare suite that includes radar warning, laser warning, missile warning, and jamming capabilities. It can adapt its responses to various threats in real-time, offering greater flexibility compared to static towed decoys. 2. **Stealth:** Unlike towed decoys, which can be visually detected and targeted by adversaries, SPECTRA operates passively, making it harder for enemies to detect and neutralize. 3. **Integrated Defense:** SPECTRA is seamlessly integrated into the Rafale's avionics and can work in conjunction with other onboard systems, enhancing overall defensive capabilities. 4. **Dynamic Response:** SPECTRA can rapidly analyze threats and deploy countermeasures, providing a dynamic defense that can react to evolving battlefield conditions. 5. **Reduced Vulnerability:** Towed decoys are physical objects that can be damaged or destroyed, leaving the aircraft vulnerable. SPECTRA's electronic nature makes it less susceptible to damage. Overall, SPECTRA offers a more comprehensive and adaptive defense against modern threats compared to traditional towed decoys.

I don't wanna write 😴

@@swiffersweatjet7815 The SPECTRA system is considered superior to traditional towed decoys for several reasons: 1. **Adaptability:** SPECTRA is a comprehensive electronic warfare suite that includes radar warning, laser warning, missile warning, and jamming capabilities. It can adapt its responses to various threats in real-time, offering greater flexibility compared to static towed decoys. 2. **Stealth:** Unlike towed decoys, which can be visually detected and targeted by adversaries, SPECTRA operates passively, making it harder for enemies to detect and neutralize. 3. **Integrated Defense:** SPECTRA is seamlessly integrated into the Rafale's avionics and can work in conjunction with other onboard systems, enhancing overall defensive capabilities. 4. **Dynamic Response:** SPECTRA can rapidly analyze threats and deploy countermeasures, providing a dynamic defense that can react to evolving battlefield conditions. 5. **Reduced Vulnerability:** Towed decoys are physical objects that can be damaged or destroyed, leaving the aircraft vulnerable. SPECTRA's electronic nature makes it less susceptible to damage. Overall, SPECTRA offers a more comprehensive and adaptive defense against modern threats compared to traditional towed decoys.

​@@swiffersweatjet7815The SPECTRA system is considered superior to traditional towed decoys for several reasons: 1. **Adaptability:** SPECTRA is a comprehensive electronic warfare suite that includes radar warning, laser warning, missile warning, and jamming capabilities. It can adapt its responses to various threats in real-time, offering greater flexibility compared to static towed decoys. 2. **Stealth:** Unlike towed decoys, which can be visually detected and targeted by adversaries, SPECTRA operates passively, making it harder for enemies to detect and neutralize. 3. **Integrated Defense:** SPECTRA is seamlessly integrated into the Rafale's avionics and can work in conjunction with other onboard systems, enhancing overall defensive capabilities. 4. **Dynamic Response:** SPECTRA can rapidly analyze threats and deploy countermeasures, providing a dynamic defense that can react to evolving battlefield conditions. 5. **Reduced Vulnerability:** Towed decoys are physical objects that can be damaged or destroyed, leaving the aircraft vulnerable. SPECTRA's electronic nature makes it less susceptible to damage. Overall, SPECTRA offers a more comprehensive and adaptive defense against modern threats compared to traditional towed decoys.

It's the kind of countermeasure that's hard to beat even if you know it exists. Most air to air missiles have independent targeting, meaning once they are launched they rely on (mostly) their own sensors to find the target. You would have to invest some serious money and time into making the missiles much smarter and totally change the way they can find and attack targets. It's like knowing your enemy has near perfect camouflage. Just knowing they have it still doesn't tell you where they are hiding. Some air to air missiles are wire or radio guided by the pilot or a weapons officer in the plane. Most of these are really old- 60's and 70's era tech- and have limited range and effectiveness. Either the missile is too short-range to hit targets from a safe range, the missile is too fast to guide once it reaches terminal range, or it's too slow and easy to avoid. Most militaries stopped using them decades ago, tho I think Russia still uses some.

Yep and by the time they build one the US will be another 15 years ahead in technology.

@@Scudboy17 Russian jet fighter: "Hmm, da, da, I shoot transponder, problem go away"

Russian jet fighter engineer: Vodka poisoning

@@Scudboy17 Wire-guided AAMs? Now I’ve heard it all. It’s like the basement-dweller comments are getting worse. I thought with information access, people would get smarter, but I was wrong.

This isn't a secret. Do you really think this is the first time this was ever published?

Exactly, why would we publish our informatics & weapons systems capabilities?!? It’s no less frustrating whenever the resident @1600 Pennsylvania Ave goes on a trip…albeit somewhere on American 🇺🇸 soil or overseas. ABC, CNN, FoxNews, NBC, MSNBC: “On this day, at this time, Joe & Jill Biden will be in such a such city. My vote was stolen in ‘20…but Joe is still recognized as the Leader of Free World so let’s not announce to those who have issues w/🇺🇸 location of our sleeper……..I mean leader!

You know copying technologies isn’t easy right? First you need a decent size population of engineers and scientists that can mimic different parts of the project and years to successfully simulate the project

I watched your War Thunder Tank Battle. You went out in a blaze of glory.

Every time I cook up a chicken pot pie in my microwave I think of all the technology that surrounds my pot pie...

@@Broimsatan Chicken pot pie is F’n Grrrrrrreat!

You don't think other countries know more than this KZfaqr with their intelligence?

@@aberba it was a joke 🙄

@@s.l.2409 Not a very good joke

... and calls for an A-10 for back up.

​@@MaxAbramson3 More like as bait

Gracias