exactly

Cimarron

The Cadillac XLR & Chevy HHR & Sky/Solstice come to mind. The V/SS/GXP & Red Line were great but late.

The bean counters, have been trying to get rid of the A/10 close air support aircraft for decades. Arguably the best ever. All because getting cash in their hands

​@@whirledpeas3477the A-10 sucks lmao. It does more friendly fire damage than actual operation effectiveness. People just think it's good cos brrrt. Any even remotely modern air defense system shreds it.

The Phaeton was a rebadged Bentley. I wanted to buy a used one a few years ago. The interior was luxurious and it drove great but the VW dealer who was a friend of mine told me that I needed deep pockets if it needed repairs and if there were service issues, I would have to go to a Bentley dealership.

@@MonGoalian can confirm the deep pockets problem. Cheap to buy, but expensive to own.

The winner is actually VW other cars. Having Phaeton actually raised the price of Passat and Golf.

@@MonGoalian Wrong - It was the other way around. The Phaeton was the platform built by VW and then shipped to UK as a base for Bentley and to Porsche as the base for the Panamera.

@@kevinfleischer2049 Cheap to buy? Adjusted for inflation, oh my goodness, Phaeton was right up there with the present day shockers.

I would agree with this assessment.

It's a good idea, just well ahead of it's time

I agree!

Prowler EPPISODE

The Prowler is the ultimate conversion starter.

A Prowler had a decent look but lacked everything else. ESPECIALLY in the Pony department. It really was the black dog in the family cause the HOT car at the time was / and still may very well be THE VIPER. I had a chance to pick up a prowler, but, for nearly the cost of one brand new, I made a quick HARD PASS on that notion. Yea, I bought a VIPER instead. ( and it rarely gets driven these days with gasoline prices out of sight and a V-10 that gets 8 gallons a mile) And FORD still makes the Lincoln Blackwood, sans the special truck bed. BUT instead of dedicating another LOSER to the game, they instead market it as the Ford Platinum F150 which ironically is also available all the way up to a F450. If you got the Dough, Fawd can make it yours for the unbelievably highest of high prices. All the features of a Blackwood's high class style and features with a price tag to match. The Ultimate Cowboy Cadillac.

The blackwood's rear is still massively beautiful, it was super weird though because from the bed forward it was trash 🤣 (cosmetically)

A regular customer of minen drives a blackwood. It's the only blackwood registered in the state

I never realized they'd made the bed so useless, even compared to many four door trucks, but I always thought the pinstripes looked kinda sharp. :)

Funny you should ask that I make a series about the Prowler. I already did: @patrickomeara9420

22:28 - Hmm, I hope that was a shot of a scrapyard special, because otherwise the rustproofing looks a little suspect.

@@benjaminrobinson3842 probably just a random shot of an F150 rear end.

Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear compared the rear end of the crossfire with a dog squatting to take a dump..which is hilariously accurate.

Clarkson is terminally braindead, it's beautiful, inspired by coachbuilt prewar sports cars, if it had been made in Britain he'd have said it was brilliant

and the Opel based Catera.

Really it was a chevy cavalier cadillac

The Allente was nice. Still a relevant design.

@@GS-zc4sk it was nice but still an overpriced flop. The problem with the Allanté was that it was outrageously expensive to produce due to putting them on 747s and flying them from Europe to America during the assembly process. And Mercedes-Benz also redesigned the SL it was competing with. Also the Mercedes was rear wheel drive versus the Cadillac’s front wheel drive, which was its biggest pitfall.

It was a cavalier with Cadillac badges

I've been a Marlin fan since the day they came out.

I love the looks of the Crossfire. And the Marlin. And the Riviera boat-tail.

The Marlin is a fantastic lookin body style, the only things it's lacking is a AMC 401 big block, 4spd manual, and "Sure-Grip" posi rearend...

And you probably loved the AMC Gremlin also huh?

@@henryhawkins1194 So what if he does? Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

I had a 96 mustang v6. Never figured out what it did with the fuel. Didn’t turn into power, didn’t turn into torque and certainly didn’t turn into sound. It wasn’t even reliable. Worst car I have ever owned.

When you see an American engine with low power or sketchy engineering (V8/6/4, etc.) you can usually point directly to a government regulation that forced it to be built that way. And if you look back far enough, you just see that engine technology had a way to go.

I know! There are 2litre 4 pot engines producing 300+bhp and engines with twice the cylinders and 4 times the capacity that can't make half that. We love a V8

A gentleman daily drives one in the town I live in. One of the sexiest "pickups" ever built.

The vast majority of pickups are 95% of the time doing little else than “haulin’ air”.

80% of truck owners hardly ever use it to haul. The Blackwood was ahead of its time.

@Heaven Help Us thank you, I understand this guy based it on sales alone but the Blackwood was a far better vehicle than everything else on this list.

Gorgeous for the time but the split gate and carpeted bed with aluminum trim made it unappealing to me when they became reasonable used and was interested

And those were non-interference engines. So a timing belt is a 30 minute inconvenience.

Turbos did great in the Rockies

I also thought the Merkur was awesome too! They were popular in France.

Is that model the same as the UK Ford Sierra XR4i?

@@71simonforresterYes, with over 800 differences to make it pass US safety and emission requirements. I currently own an ‘87 model and have had another ‘87 and an ‘88 in the past. Fortunately there are several vendors here in The States who can provide spares to keep them on the road.

I'll take an SSR over an HHR any day. 😄

That is true but I think he deemed a car a sales failure based off initial interest

​@@jrussellcase Well .... yeah

Auctions=/=dealer lot

@@jrussellcase HHR = Chevy Cobalt with a retro SUV body. Junk.

Probably bc those that rented them tended to drive them hard.

Wow! Tell us about success you had with Land Rover discoveries

@@KevinBullard they’re pretty solid for the first 75-100k miles. At least new ones are.

@@orangecayman520 Kind of like BMWs-they're only designed to get through the first lease term and then they start becoming maintenance headaches.

Had one and loved it!

Actually the Caravan saved them.

I took a test drive, and fell in love. The price was steep, even for an Audi, but if it had been an Audi, I may have bought one.

The Phaeton was pretty much designed as a testbed for the Bentley Continental, sharing a lot of parts with it and the Audi A8. The Continental uses a lot of the same parts, only with two turbos.

Likely as the Audi A10.

Or as a Horch, as Audi is reportedly doing in China.

It had some pretty innovative stuff, especially the AC they developed to be blow-less, the suspension is said to be very comfortable and the full LED rear lights (while the W220 S-Class just had LED brake lights). But it stumbled across its own Volkswagen feet, for Piëch's credit: He managed it to make Audi, a pretty boring brand in the 70s (probably even Opels at that time were more exciting) evolve to a premium brand beginning with the quattro, the full zinc-plated Audi 100 C3 and so on. But as told offering a luxury Volkswagen was too much (it's also said that they've lost around 30k €/$ per Phaeton), they even planned the Nardo/Syncro W12, a mid-engine coupé/roadster (IMHO it still looks really nice) that was axed in favor of the Bugatti Veyron. They should've better put these efforts into the A8 (at least the contemporary A8 D5 seemingly has got the AC with these vent covers) directly or sell it together with the Touareg under an independent brand name or just as the "Phaeton" (with less optical resemblence to other VWs) maybe similar to the Toyota Century.

except the repair costs, like all German cars they have terrible electronics

I own one, bought just about 12 years ago. 34 thousand original miles, it was purchased by me from Senator John Sununu. It was his wife's Kitty's car, still has the New Hampshire inspection sticker on it. Since I bought it, I've driven it less than 500 miles. It sits in my collection of 8 other cars. My grown children will sell all of them when I pass, probably for pennies on the dollar.

DeLoreans were loved while also kind of mocked by the same people. It was a “future car”.

True "car guys"? You talking about guys who think the Peugeot-Renault-Volvo engine with 130 HP is something to brag about? Them ain't car guys. They're kids who think it looked cool. But mechanically, it was under-powered junk.

It always has been and still is underpowered junk, but it's a piece of history anyway.

Delorean was a good car but it’s downfall was the drug charges and over estimating the market

Except rifles

Ditto Daihatsu

@@andrewgates8158 Even those are questionable.

Do they still make Chevy small cars since GM bought them? I lost track haha

@@highoctaneadventure I believe Daewoo corporate was broken up to a degree and auto manufacturing was taken over by GM wholly. It was rebranded as GM Korea and I believe is an on-going concern and making a lot of smaller GM cars under the Chevy brand. I’m sure someone will be excited to correct anything I got wrong and half of what I’m right about.

The 505 was never a luxury car, the rarer 604 was, they sold a handful with the mini diesel boom

Yes ong

😂😂😂😂😂

Hell yea !!!!

I kinda wanted one!

Agreed. Easy enough to pop a much more powerful engine in there.

A knew a kid in Colorado who had one. When the chinooks blew, he couldn’t drive west.

It was junk. Sure I too like the looks, but the quality, engineering, performance, anything you name was utter junk. Typical GM of the era.

I had a Berreta and it had a electronic dashboard.

Car looks cool but whoever thought of shipping the bodies by plane from Italy is bonkers

But presentation by Kelly Bundy was a fail!

Yeah you needed to appreciate design... You also needed to have the equivalent of $130,000 to spend on a car genius

Tubular aluminum frame recall

Much to expensive for what it was…

I would never recommend the Northstar V8, because that engine had head gasket problems.

Fwd was the killer at that price point.

An estate sale had 3 crossfires that sold for $800 each. I thought they would be a fun car. 2 of them sold to high school aged kids.

A SLK Chassis on its way out while Mercedes was about to sell a new generation. The Crossfire was just another contender in a market segment with better or cheaper alternatives.

The Northstar is garbage

Pretty pimpin'

Good point. But what killed it for me was the fugly factor.

​​@@TooLooze agreed

The Eagle wagon would beg to differ.

@@wernervoss6357 Still own a pair of Talon TSI's in AWD, I concur with you sir!

I know the tercel wagon came in awd but 88-92 corolla?

@@wernervoss6357 yep. The Mitsubishi expo also. 3 rows of seats low and awd. Never knew why it wasnt a hit.

had a ford Probe 1993 GT, was a great car. I had a 4th gen honda prelude SI afterwards and it amazing how similar they were.

Agreed i also would like to see the prowler..💥💥💥💥

How much freeway to get to 88 makes that last line by Marty in BTTF funnier than it should be

@@86twin Haha. Because you'd need a time machine to get there on time.

Bricklins were made in the mid 70s, out of the scope of the video. I thought of them too though.

I had an '84 Dodge Conquest Turbo 5 speed manual - essentially a rebadged Starion, it was a lot of fun to drive!

A bit late, but it failed due to Lutz insisting on it being called a GTO right when Ford was remaking the Mustang into the super successful '05 version. If they'd just called it the Monaro that it was, & marketed it as a more upscale vehicle, it would've been fine.

The phaeton’s impressive engine technology should have been rolled into the Audi A6 or A8. Edit: the W12 made it into the A8. Never understood why it remained a Volkswagen. Btw I’m also interested in a Plymouth/Chrysler Prowler episode. It was such a cool looking car.

@@billbyers2344 The Phaeton and the A8 shared pretty much all engines, except the V10 TDI (VW only) and the 4.0 and 4.2 TDI (Audi only). Also the V10 gasoline was exclusive for the S8 and shared with the Gallardo. They were different cars, although the concept is very similar.

@@E34Benzin also Cadillac tried the roadster thing again with the XLR, which used the corvette C6 platform but was powered by Northstar V8 Engines. While the V Series was a beast, it would have been better if it used a supercharged 6.2L V8 like the Vette, CTS and CT5 Speaking of Corvette and Cadillac, what do you think of GM’s new direction for both marques?