Love that they kept the v6 - not only a proven great performer but likely very reliable with high resale value.
@JamesSusanka8 ай бұрын
awesome they kept the na v6 and no turbo crud we need more cars like these
@waynewallace20618 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 Passport AWD. Was $36k when purchased, now $41.9k hmmm. 45 thousand miles and zero problems, plenty spacious. Give us the 10 speed and life is good.
@zajdabneeg5 ай бұрын
That is why iamma negotiate down south. At least 37k otd. Lol
@hydroboy35th8 ай бұрын
Great vehicle, that color is SONIC GRAY not the Diffused blue. Good review though 👍🏻
@shipdog448 ай бұрын
I have a 2019 Passport Elite and I love the push button shifter. I purchased mine new and have 60K miles on it. It's been great for me.
@Offshore19778 ай бұрын
I consider this a CUV version of the 4Runner. Love that Honda offers a metal skid plate and rear swing away tire carrier. Great job Honda. Only way it could be better is if you were to bring back the individual adjustable arm rests.
@Wilsonsfarm8 ай бұрын
That's not Diffused Sky Pearl, that's Sonic Grey
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
They don’t even know. 😂
@brians.13578 ай бұрын
Sweet machine! I’m more looking forward to this series of videos on the Passport then the Cybertruck if that helps 😎👍
@Ram142508 ай бұрын
New Honda V6 (like the Pilot) and 10speed Next year. More skid plates and more revisions coming! The entire vehicle is in line for total redo with the Ridgeline coming very soon.
@LionRunner8 ай бұрын
This is fantastic. Honda Passport TrailSport is absolutely perfect for many people. I even tell my friends to look at 2024 Pilot Trailsport too. A/T tires, skids, etc a very nice package for outdoor activities. I see many compare with 4Runner and complain 4Runner mpg. Have to remember 4Runner is old tech and does not have fancy cylinder deactivation or anything like that. 4Runners run on all 6 cylinders all the time and also have port injection. And 4Runner is a SUV and Pilot / Passport is a car with a big body. Per my weight video I was surprised to see that my 4Runner Limited is 5060lbs. Probably because 3rd row seats. Love to see comparison Passport Trailsport vs 4Runner TRD Pro (since both come with A/T tires, etc from factory). Even mpg test (4Runner would fail so bad, LoL) or even towing test. I wonder if Passport AWD also rated for 3500lbs like the 2023Pilot with ZF9? Hope TFL don't over tow and over heat the transmission. I bet they would read the towing section in owners manual before test. Looking for a fantastic test and be an eye opener for some what these things can do.
@jkenn89738 ай бұрын
Hate to break it to you guys. That’s not the blue one. That’s the primer, I mean sonic gray pearl
@20smgreen8 ай бұрын
How does a 24 valve engine V6 only have 2 valves/cylinder?
@ak49394 күн бұрын
4-Valves per Cylinder, SOHC VTEC V6
@beldarana31088 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to your testing of the PASSPORT especially since I plan on buying one!!! Thx guys!! 💕
@jimg73186 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 Passport Elite that I bought new for $46,300. Great deal because it was 0% financing. Love the response that 3.5 gives me. 5.7, 0 to 60 in sport mode. I’m not big on off roading but great in snow. Has every option as the one in this video. Suspension is slight different. Only thing I dislike is that stupid arm rest. Glad they finally changed it.
@knottstilting8 ай бұрын
The Passport you have is Sonic Gray Pearl. Diffused Sky Blue is a bubble gum blue and very very comic blue than Sonic Grey Pearl. Also, they had Sonic Grey last year and in 2022 so it’s not a new color for this year - but you are correct that Diffused Sky Blue is, you just don’t have it lol
@kieransteele72238 ай бұрын
Looks great, I wish it had the new pilot interior though
@Austinandjules8 ай бұрын
Before the business venture with Isuzu, the passport name was used on 2 seater Honda cubs starting in 1980. Not to mention the odyssey and pilot use to be off-road UTV’s. What the heck happened Honda.
@XBEAST20238 ай бұрын
Honda needs to step up the game on the interior design.
@krane158 ай бұрын
They're falling way behind Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, and rising class Mazda. BTW, if anyone's interested in what Europeans are doing, even VW has begun stepping up its interior design. No more humdrum, and depressing sea-of-gray interiors.
@jakes55308 ай бұрын
Hopefully the Grabber AT sports are quieter than the AT/X on my Tremor… those emit a high pitched howl from like 30-70 mph
@jkenn89738 ай бұрын
I test drove a 24 the other day. Tires are super quiet. The car looks great in person. Would’ve bought it but I work at Honda and they’re getting me the blue one so I’m waiting til end of Jan
@alexw69268 ай бұрын
That is not diffused sky blue, that's sonic grey.
@alexw69268 ай бұрын
and you guy's cant do math, if it's a 24 valve engne, and has six cylinders how many valves per cylinder are there? come one you're supposed to be professionals!
@Clam738 ай бұрын
@@alexw6926 And he said it's a 9 inch touchscreen when it's an 8 inch
@jcollins13058 ай бұрын
50g’s?! For a Passport? Nice car and all, but just get the 4Runner for that price.
@Steeltoe878 ай бұрын
Good car, but if you want good mileage...certainly not the 4runner.
@jcollins13058 ай бұрын
Correct. Though they really are two different vehicles altogether. Body on frame old school off roader vs a unibody soft roader. Nothing against the passport at all! Just wouldn’t pay 50k for one.
@travisruskin20248 ай бұрын
Because the 4Runner is going for 70
@thebigempty_57928 ай бұрын
I'm a Toyota fanboy, but to me buying a new 4Runner that's been virtually the same since 2010 - old thirsty v6 / ancient 5 speed trans. / talk about ancient interior with plastics that scratch when you barely look at them / yes they will run forever , but paying 50K and the stupid "Toyota" tax is just non sense. If you want to build out a rig like a Jeep for real trails/off roading, the aftermarket support is incredible, but for most people that just commute and hit a state park every now an then, this Passport is a good compromise even with it's oddities (push putton selector:dumb) lol Even the new 2024 Tacoma is going to easily surpass 50K and not even for the Overland edition or TRD Pro - it looks like 50K is the new 30K unfortunately.
@krane158 ай бұрын
You're experiencing sticker shock. 50k is the approaching the price of the average car. The Toyota RAV4 Prime is 50k+.
@Kjhgr018 ай бұрын
And like for the 2024 Ridgeline they brought back the full center console and got rid of the minivan style armrests!
@mikeruffo64628 ай бұрын
Soooo.......they put different tires to make it an "off road" package?
@krane158 ай бұрын
Honda: did we say off-road? We meant off-road looking.
@bogart51318 ай бұрын
i wish they can make the screen wider, make the 2nd seat recline more, back floormat into rubber or plastic
@paulholterhaus70847 ай бұрын
Finnally, We get rid of the space intruding shifter..........My 68 Dodge didn't have one either........Paul
@FEV3698 ай бұрын
I like how all these cars are becoming identical. We are getting to the point where is one button is out of place i6t gets called out... but "out of place" is compared to the collectives agreement where it belongs. In another 5 years you won't be able to tell the difference on the inside from a 100k car to a 45k car.
@krane158 ай бұрын
Out of place mean inconveniently place. If you want to get into your glove box the button should be on the glove box. Not buried in your infotainment menu.
@danielrn1338 ай бұрын
I read your post 3 times and I have no idea what the point of it is. You "like" that cars are "becoming identical". and "we are getting to the point where is one button is out of i6t gets called out"? huh?
@cotharyus7 ай бұрын
I would like to see you folks measure the distance between the furthest back part of the back o the rear seat straight back to the front of the lift gate to see how far that is. To be specific - my amp cabs fit in my current 2012 Pilot with the rear seat up so that I can stack guitars in there safely. I want to know how much room is in the Passport so I will know if the cabs will fit in a Passport.
@ggreg22588 ай бұрын
How would you compare top lines of Passport and Pilot?
@Matt-uh6kr7 ай бұрын
That’s Sonic Gray. Not Diffused Sky Blue
@leelamount25658 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@heavyarms9518 ай бұрын
It seems like they designed that push button transmission for the odyssey and just kinda tacked it onto other models. They should have used a shifter for other models.
@smartman1238 ай бұрын
beautiful car
@DuaneCaldwell8 ай бұрын
"...more off-roady..." "...competition for the 4Runner..."?!?! General Grabber A/T tires are a good add, but they hardly make up for the lack of approach angle, ground clearance, etc. This seems more of just another cosmetic attempt to look like it is more capable. I'd compare this more to the Highlander than the 4Runner.
@dhrtiwalter86708 ай бұрын
Is it more snow worthy is what I need to know
@jlaw19018 ай бұрын
Honda really needs to do better with their styling. Very solid other than that
@MrHayes178 ай бұрын
You say it’s diffused sky blue but the cloud cover and camera must make it look like their Sonic Gray color. Weird.
@just_jarman7 ай бұрын
Honda. Bring back the Element. Make it a Trail Sport or Hybrid or whatever. Just leave the Passport alone andgive us a New Element.
@petermavus41318 ай бұрын
I call it off Mall
@sreilly8 ай бұрын
Wait that’s a sonic gray paint lol. My wife’s 2023 passport has that - they just changed the name of the color hahaha!
@knottstilting8 ай бұрын
it’s Sonic Gray, they thought they had a Diffused Sky Blue model. Diffused Sky is a new color for the Pilot and the Passport this year, it’s a beautiful bubble gum blue - check it out in photos, it’s nice. TFL just made a mistake, or Honda told them the wrong color
@krane158 ай бұрын
@1:58 Nor does Mazda or VW make an off-road car either. Many years ago when VW made their first attempt to build a true SUV with the Touareg, it was considered too expensive for a VW, and no one would buy it. Even though it was a worthy off-roader replete with up to 3 lockers, hill-climb assist, skid plates and height adjustable suspension, low range, along with a fully clad luxury interior equivalent to what you'd find in a Range Rover today. You could order it with a V-6/V-6 diesel, V-8, V-10 diesel, or W-12 (yes folks, VW got there first). What's truly ironic, is that the price (inflation notwithstanding) near the same as what Honda is asking for this Passport today. Having learned that lesson, VW tried again with a slightly less off-road -- but still capable version of the Tiguan (VW's best seller world-wide) and that one also fail miserably in the U.S. We North Americans can be a fickled crowd.
@luiscruz-if1sg8 ай бұрын
Great looking but that push button for the transmission I hate it.
@krane158 ай бұрын
Why? Its like its something you need to be constantly engaged with. You put it in gear and drive.
@johnnysunrocket86188 ай бұрын
You ignore the elephant in the room This looks like a frumpy Van 😅😅😅
@Slim19868 ай бұрын
I saw the spy shots for the 2025 model
@jaylee85428 ай бұрын
I was loving it until I heard how much it costs.
@edes018 ай бұрын
Honda should sell the Passport in Australia.
@tracygraham53798 ай бұрын
Stay away from that 9 speed transmission. My Honda Pilot with the 9 speed failed at 78,000 miles. Other Honda owners have had issues with the VF supplied 9 speed. Honda ditched the 9 speed for a new 10 speed in the 2024 Pilot. Hhhhmmmmm?
@terence44278 ай бұрын
I used to own a Passport/Trailsport. Nice vehicle, but overpriced imo.
@kirksway18 ай бұрын
cool car, but the color looks like somebody polished the primer 😝
@nathanielshrieves98938 ай бұрын
Big fail by not putting the 10 speed in this model too.
@kristophercook60538 ай бұрын
$55,000 for this in Canada.. That’s 10k more than my Outback Wilderness. This is an absolute rip off.
@benhaze10108 ай бұрын
Yes Honda is totally milking it in Canada, to the point it is no longer recommended by several reviewers. But heck as long as there are takers they will continue doing so.
@krane158 ай бұрын
The car cost the same amount to make. If you're paying higher than average in other regions, speak to your legislature. But before you get too outraged at Honda, you might want to compare what the Australians have to pay for one.
@benhaze10108 ай бұрын
@@krane15 You can't really compare US/Canada with another continent without digging in all the reasons behind pricing differences. Here Honda Canada has decided to try to move upmarket and went from being competitive to be one of the most expensive.
@canyonero20508 ай бұрын
I love Hondas, and I also love the General Grabber tires. However, dont be fooled by the Grabbers on this model. They are not the same as a real General Grabber ATX tire. I dont actually know the true specs of this factory provided tire, but it doesn't look the same as a true General Grabber all terrain tire, so dont expect it to perform as well as a real one. I may be wrong, but i doubt it.
@KevinNiven8 ай бұрын
Just buy a 4runner
@Romans_Toupee8 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Honda to build ANYTHING with an actual 4x4 / Low Range system... I owned a Honda Passport back in 2000 which was a real SUV, these have become total NPC appliances, about as exciting as a new refrigerator. It's sad to say, but Honda doesnt even build a single vehicle I want or would actually consider buying... not a single one. Its not like these crossovers get amazing gas mileage or do anything special, if I wanted a family hauler that can do forest roads/handle snow I would immediately go for a Highlander Hybrid which would blow this Passport away in fuel economy, and if I want a Japanese offroader, ill stick with my outdated 4Runner on 35s with metal bumpers & sliders... the aftermarket offroad support for these Hondas is kind of a joke to be perfectly honest. < someone with a 4Runner, ETransit van & Bolt EV
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
Honda knows their customers won’t use it. Plus why take away the safety and usability of true AWD for a part time 4 wheel drive that’s not meant to drive over 40? Most 4 runner and jeep owners drive them on the roads. Plus full frame drive sloppy. Honda won’t do that to appease 1 percent of buyers.
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
99.9 percent of these buyers want a safe and comfortable SUV for bad weather driving. AWD has huge advantages over 4wD for daily driving. Transfer cases break, make noise, not to be used for high speed or long driving. So where is the benefit in it for daily drivers? None! Most 4Runner owners never go off road. Most complain they can’t use 4 wheel on highway. Hence why most trade them in for a AWD vehicle.
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
I’ve driven a passport and 4 Runner back to back. 4Runner is sloppy and sluggish. Feels so archaic. Passport is smooth and seemless with grunt.
@yournightmare99998 ай бұрын
Better than trashy Rivian r1s
@BYLRPhil8 ай бұрын
Still no low-range, c’mon Honda, pull it together! Great video TFl!
@krane158 ай бұрын
On the other hand, why mess with a formula that works?
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
Low range is for 4 wheel drive and not for AWD. You need to change the transmission and add in a transfer case. Then you will lose capability of AWD and the whole purpose of AWD. 4 wheel drive is great for off roading, but should not be used when driving over 40mph or long trips. So you lose the AWD capability and safety in severe weather by changing it out to part time 4WD. 99 percent of these buyers want a vehicle to drive in bad weather, so they want a no fuss AWD system for the added safety and traction. Thats why some 4Runner owners who never go off-roading, end up buying a full time AWD suv. 4Runners are meant to drive in rear drive only. 4 wheel is used for off-roading and going slow on bad weather roads for very short periods, or you will blow up your transfer case. So I don’t see Honda ruining a great thing that 99 percent of their users need.
@shajisamuel75078 ай бұрын
Please get a haircut tommy
@12masterr8 ай бұрын
We all know how! They called it the "trailsport" .is like when you call a Plymouth a "voyager". It makes you think that you can really go places! Lol. On top if that, $50k plus interest you end up paying 60k crazzzzyyyyyyy
@Marbind8 ай бұрын
Is called inflation get used to it.
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
Everything is inflated. Blame stimulus checks, shutting down pipelines, funding wars, etc. Get used to it. It’s only gonna get worse.
@YourMom-vl2sp8 ай бұрын
Why would you buy this fake off-roader. For that amount of money you can get a real off-roader
@Redhawk248 ай бұрын
Because people drive off road 1% of the time
@krane158 ай бұрын
Not really. That will cost you at least 8-10k more.
@bradb3678 ай бұрын
Apparently Honda thinks it can continue to milk sales of the Passport just by adding a flimsy, mini skid plate and some AT's? This outdated offering simply dilutes the worth of their TrailSport package. I'd be pissed if I was an owner of a new Pilot TS lol
@krane158 ай бұрын
Not just Honda. Kia does the exact same thing with the Telluride. It too has off-road prowess that's only skin deep.
@Marbind8 ай бұрын
The fact that you want to use an unibody as a serious off roader tells a lot about you. This is a city vehicle that can tackle some mild trails. Can't ask for more.
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
Companies know 99 percent of their buyers are not rock crawling. 99 percent of Raptor owners and 4Runner owners only use them for daily driving. People waste so much money on a tool they never use. Hence why prices are so high.
@ryanb87368 ай бұрын
Fact: 99 percent of people buy “Trail” trims for bigger tires for potholes and dirt roads, that are great in icy snow conditions. It’s a safety security. Real off roaders buy used full frame vehicles that they don’t care much about to go rock crawling.
@adir_18 ай бұрын
Honda needs to get their prices in check. I know they make great vehicles but when you're approaching $50K there's really no incentive to get something like this over say the 4 Runner. It's the same story with the Ridgeline. They made the trailsport version but that truck is really not an off road truck. It's great for hauling bulky things on road and has good ride quality but when the Tacoma and Ridgeline are almost identical in price why choose the less capable one?
@MonicaHolly1438 ай бұрын
Becuz most people are on road 95% of the time thats why they value comfort road noise mileage trunk space and leg space. And good luck getting a decent spec 4 runner for 50k
@adir_18 ай бұрын
@@MonicaHolly143 That makes sense and I understand what you mean. It just seems steep to me to ask $50K for anything really. A 4 Runner, OR Premium model w/ moonroof and premium package comes out to $49,755. Which is a lot more capable vehicle in general but still overpriced. I guess it's not going away anytime soon though.
@winstondeocampo6998 ай бұрын
Lol old engine, old transmission. Honda doesn’t even try even though they have the new 3.5 DOHC, 10 speed transmission and they want you to pay 50K. Stop buying if you want Honda to change their culture.
@krane158 ай бұрын
On the other hand, "if it ain't broke...." One reason why Honda's are so reliable. They don't go out on a limb since every time you update your risk new reliability issues. Besides, the engine and transmissions in most car last for a decade. That's the real time most changes are made anyway. The rest are just cosmetic (they change the lights and call it a new model) similar to your phone.
@2rep6938 ай бұрын
I prefer the "old" proven reliable engine and transmission than the new lousy cvt and unreliable turbo...
@Mr.Worf638 ай бұрын
So $61,713 🇨🇦 for that ?! Nah.
@krane158 ай бұрын
Sticker shock bub?
@Mr.Worf638 ай бұрын
@@krane15 Huge Shock !
@shitloveaduck8 ай бұрын
Honda is overpriced,,,. Utilitarian interiors equal cheap to produce. The motor is getting very long in the tooth and for those that want to own them for hundreds of thousands of miles like the 4Runner, there’s that d*mn timing belt as part of the routine maintenance. The timing belt is never discussed, but for the first while people sure b*tched about the belt in the Chevy 3.0 litre diesel!!! That requires replacement about 1/2 as often ad the Honda 3.5 does,,,,. Honda does produce very comfortable seats, I like the looks of this vehicle but I wouldn’t consider it for off-road use. I would buy a 4Runner if I needed this. My wife bought a Subaru Crosstrek Limited, 2024, and it has 8.5” of clearance vs the Honda 8.1”. I suspect the Honda will be the better off-road vehicle of the two, even if we put all terrain tires on the Crosstrek (we put all weathers on it though, we live in Alberta, Canada). Definitely a better approach angle on the Honda, departure is comparable. They did improve the transmission a lot, if you get the 2.5 litre, and it’s much better and with a 7.8 second 0-60 time, it’s quick. It’s not meant to be a race car. I suspect the Passport is at least 2 seconds quicker 0-60 though. Very different vehicles and about $20,000 Canadian apart in price!! My wife likes the Subaru and it’s solely her crossover, so it works for us! I drive several classic trucks and. Ford Ranger currently.
@krane158 ай бұрын
Its overrated. Its just everything for the average family with average need. If your family needs a strict A to B transport with all the basics and nothing more then Honda is the place to go.