Here's How Ray Allen Teaches Jump Shooting

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2 ай бұрын

In this clip, JJ Redick admires Ray Allen's shooting form and ask Ray how he learned to shoot, how he now teaches people, and the best way to do so.
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@Munir9595 Ай бұрын

JJ was silent for 4 minutes... then just destroys josh harts shooting form 😂😂😂😂😂

@shyguymuzik9095 Ай бұрын

😂😂

@zae3185 Ай бұрын

Yea that was mad funny 😂😂😂

@jujubaby21 Ай бұрын

Catching strays hahaha

@jl7078 Ай бұрын

Because he’s been working with Josh hart on his form lol

@MyChannel-ol1zz Ай бұрын

Boo

@captainchau Ай бұрын

I've trained in muay thai for 13 yrs and just him talking about mechanics and physiology is really enlightening; no matter what sport you're in.

@savage7ecneek437 Ай бұрын

Hearing the greate explain their sport in depth....never gets old

@emmanuela7528 Ай бұрын

Facts. It's all body mechanics at the end of the day.

@newagain9964 Ай бұрын

Yeah. But he’s clearly not a (good) golf instructor.

@joelbergsma7019 Ай бұрын

I love how he immediately brings up a golf swing. Look at Charles Barkley swing a golf club and you can see how quickly a broke jump shot can develop.

@theDanDeleon Ай бұрын

4:34 the shade thrown to Josh Hart unmatched 😂

@igotjokes4ya340 Ай бұрын

Lmao I was like damn😭😭

@jetpakkstudios7051 Ай бұрын

Literally laughed out loud

@tokinosoda12thapostleofthe12 Ай бұрын

Lmao 😂💀

@kadehornsby8133 Ай бұрын

I just got to that part and ran to the comments 😂

@Tony-fq5bn Ай бұрын

Ray Allen was in the zone tho, he didnt even think about laughing lol

@bryce6106 Ай бұрын

ray allen was spot on. as a teacher, it’s important to teach someone where they are at and then, get them where they want them to be instead of starting them how you start everyone else.

@PrussianBlu3 Ай бұрын

Yea that was his most profound point.

@justpitiful6339 Ай бұрын

Everybody can b a shooter though idc what tha form is if u putting in the work

@BootyWarrior555 Ай бұрын

Gilbert arenas said the same thing. He’s a trainer. He said train ppl to elevate their abilities. One size doesn’t fit all. His sons is a top hs player in the country, and only a sophomore.

@PSL09 Ай бұрын

that adjusting to natural form vs forcing form shots is true

@terrencebierke990 Ай бұрын

Exactly why he is one of the best shooters ever. Just explained it from a childhood standpoint all the way to a professional level within 7 mins

@ZodaPoppin Ай бұрын

jj reddick and ray allen talking about shooting?! SNAP click please have young mantis on the pod

@cortext36 Ай бұрын

Nothing better than this!

@2UGamingProductions Ай бұрын

On sonics he used to do the lean in 3 on the break in one motion was something graceful to watch

@abandonedtownexplorations8736 Ай бұрын

He was nasty with the sonics & bucks people 4get how complete of a player he was sweetest shooting form I've ever seen

@poindextertunes Ай бұрын

@@abandonedtownexplorations8736thats why it was crazy when he went to the celtics

@KingJerbear Ай бұрын

The thing is, Ray breaks shooting form down to it's purist mechanics, and he was always obsessive about it and put in the work. But lots of guys can still find success with different form, simply from repetition and knowing how to properly adjust. I think what Ray is trying to imply is that these guys would be able to find more success if they could implement better basic technique on a consistent basis (once they learned to adjust the same way as their "natural" form)

@International_man_of_mystery Ай бұрын

Master class by Ray Allen. Kept everything nice and simple

@chunky9791 Ай бұрын

Makes perfect sense, as kids grow so will their hands, arms, legs hips etc. Using a smaller ball will help them catch palm the ball & use correct rotation

@nicholascovucci6545 Ай бұрын

Two of my favorite all time shooters. This going to be a good one

@BackAgainWitQBandzz Ай бұрын

Ik exactly what he means by pushing the shot 🥲💯 coaches would always tell me growing up to use my wrist and fingertips when the ball is bigger than my head lol

@Henry-kv7zl Ай бұрын

Shidd the ball prolly still bigger than your head brah unless u megamind

@Drewskii21 Ай бұрын

@@Henry-kv7zl😂

@Alien-_-Clawson Ай бұрын

you probably have a junk trailer park form

@BackAgainWitQBandzz Ай бұрын

@@Henry-kv7zl Lol true 😂😂

@BackAgainWitQBandzz Ай бұрын

@@Alien-_-Clawson Every 8 year old has a Janky form until your strong enough to shoot the right way 🤡🤥 Being the shortest player on all my teams made me probably the best shooter on all the teams I played for 🎯

@junkmail1203 Ай бұрын

Both their shots were beautiful to watch

@jaytorr6701 Ай бұрын

Let's think of this. What is the closest motion done in professional sports with the highest accuracy? Funnily enough, darts! They can throw the dart with such accuracy, almost within 2-3mm from where they aim. The motion is exactly the same, but is on a horizontal target, not on a vertical plane. They hold the darts between the thumb, index and middle finger. This is the split finger shot that Petrovic, MJ, Stojakovic etc were using. To put it it all together. When I teach kids to shoot, I get them to throw darts to a target. Then start to raise the target in height so they start throwing on a more vertical plane. Then we go to a basketball court and teach them to use the same motion, with their fingers aiming at the three front net hooks (Steph aims like that). Of courses depending on age using a 7 to 9ft rim and smaller balls. I coach under 11 kids, there is not a kid in my group that does kit have perfect form.

@LosPeeps0609 Ай бұрын

This is honestly very creative, didn’t know that bit about darts either.

@jaytorr6701 Ай бұрын

@@LosPeeps0609 thank you!

@Brian-wy2od Ай бұрын

But you shoudnt release the ball with the thumb. Shoud you?

@milomaher1582 Ай бұрын

@@Brian-wy2odYou shouldn't release darts with your thumb either. A good throw spins off of your pointer or middle finger, which gives it the direction and height too

@loverofhumanity Ай бұрын

I disagree with Ray Allen on this. Most great shooters do have the ball resting a bit on their palm. That's not actually what differentiates a good shooter from a bad shooter. He summed it up at the end. Great shooting is simply about timing your lift with your release. That's literally the most important part. If you can do that consistently every time your shot will be good because youll be driving with your legs while aiming with your wrist and hand. As long as you move the ball slightly before you will ALWAYS naturally shoot with your hands and wrist. You will also never get off hand interference.

@BeardedMavsFan Ай бұрын

I could listen to this man break down basketball forever ! So glad he still wants to talk about the game but most importantly share his knowledge with the world . Thank you JJ

@recrevs963 Ай бұрын

ray's shot is a thing of beauty, never get tired of his highlights

@macnolds4145 Ай бұрын

For many players, shooting is the hardest part of the game. It involves several, distinct technical components that one must learn to transform into a single, fluid motion. Good shooting requires steady balance, bending the knees, shooting at the apex, avoiding guide hand interference, avoiding too much palm, achieving rotation, achieving a high arc, achieving follow-through, accurate aiming, and more. It's truly a miracle that anyone can ever learn how to "shoot the right way," especially given that everyone has a different physical shape, sense of balance, sense of physical comfort, and psychology. Hell, most of the best shooters in NBA history had/have at least one thing innately "wrong" about their jumpshots, from a purist's perspective. I played ball (non-professionally) my whole life. Tried everything. Was open to both small adjustments and fundamental, top-to-bottom overhauls. Practiced a lot. Never got even decent at it.

@Scramblefred2399 Ай бұрын

For me it was simple, with infinite tweaks and repetition. Throw the ball up? Did it go in? Okay, do the same thing. Now do it using the least amount of energy. After thousands of reps it begins to form

@loverofhumanity Ай бұрын

It's because you practiced wrong....1 million bad repitions where you're doing it wrong will not help you improve. This is what most guys don't understand. Shooting is about timing. It's about getting the power from your legs and transferring that energy into the release. At the same time the aim comes from your elbows, wrist and fingers. Essentially what Ray Allen said at the end. You have to match your release with your lift. That's HOW the transfer happens. It's also how you shoot from deep. Shooting far actually requires less power than many people think. It actually only requires you being able to transfer the power from your legs well. Again it's all timing. I actually played in high school and wasn't a great shooter until I turned 29. Like you it used to frustrate me a lot because I could never consistently figure it out. Some days I'd make shots but some days Id airball everything. I watched a video by some shooting expert on Instagram one night and he said. Bring the ball up first and then jump and flick at the same time. So I did that. Very slowly at first. I'd bring the ball up and then jump and shoot. By the end of the day I was hitting 10-15 straight threes but not fast. But it was working. So then I just decided okay this works but it's too slow for a game. I started watching my game tapes and realized that all the good shooters in the league jump and release at the same time and it's usually a slight jump forward. So I tried it. I'd just jump and flick as soon as I'd get the ball at the same time. Faster. And guess what? It worked. This is a true story, I now average 5 threes a game in my men's league. Prior to that I hadn't hit a three in the last 2-3 yrs. I have teams that specifically try to double me and focus on taking away my shot because of how many threes I hit. I'm still always trying to improve but I realized that I came a long way as well. My next thing I hope to improve on is getting my shot off the dribble faster. I struggle with that.

@samgunz1 Ай бұрын

So much gold in this interview.. I wish I was about 20 years younger watching this

@Bob-fj7lr Ай бұрын

That thing at the end about the release point and matching it with your jump is the most intelligent thing I've ever heard about shooting a basketball

@loverofhumanity Ай бұрын

I literally wrote the same comment. Literally shooting well all boils down to that. I tell guys I meet (I'm really really good at shooting) and so naturally people ask me how? They think it's like wizardry but I wasn't a natural born shooter, I actually learned the timing release with the lift like Ray said. The funny thing is once you understand that concept its crazy how easy shooting becomes..then it's just about increasing the speed and your good. The wild thing is anyone can become a great shooter because it's actually a very easy concept to learn once it clicks.

@kevinweaver8659 Ай бұрын

Whenever i warm up i picture how square ray Allen is when he shoots and his release point and try to mimic it, i believe it's helped me be as good as a shooter i became. I love Ray

@d.felixphoto2260 Ай бұрын

Those Jordan's in the background are insane 😳. He's speaking the truth about the shot

@sirf4ce Ай бұрын

This should be required viewing for coaches and young kids interested in learning to shoot. Some coaches get hung up on the idea of never changing the ball size or hoop height. Let the kids learn form and technique so when the strength catches up, the knowledge transfers.

@BareWithMe123 Ай бұрын

I remember watching Ray Allen’s shooting drill around the free throw line, his shooting release from how his fingers held and felt the ball to the flick of his wrist is what really stood out to me. That video definitely made me a better shooter. Ray Allen’s flick of the wrist and soft touch of the fingers on the ball is something else. First thing I have taught little ballers is to not grip the basketball but feel it with their hands. What I learned recently was MJ’s comment about using your index finger and finger to guide the shot for a more accurate follow through release.

@mohamedndaw5906 Ай бұрын

When I first started playing ball. I watched Ray Allen's jumper for hours. Most comfortable and when I shot the best. Started playing in High School. They changed my shot. Said the way I was shooting was flat, and it's not good to release with both hands

@Slim4eva Ай бұрын

I love that your having this important dialog. Took all winter but I learned my 10yr old son who is right handed shoots natully left. Thanks Ray nd Jj💯💯

@chrisg9842 Ай бұрын

I taped Ray when he won the 3pt contest. I went outside everyday for hours practicing my form to shoot like Ray. His shot is perfect

@futrpdr Ай бұрын

Kids/young played can learn A LOT about shooting just from this short conversation!

@peterkoroma7876 Ай бұрын

josh hart catching a stray 😂😂😂

@SadfoxGuyver Ай бұрын

Coaching

@stephentripp7154 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@user-zq9ml6ot8u Ай бұрын

This was great. love hearing you guys being technical

@hanys85 Ай бұрын

This is such a thoughtful and insightful answer

@cashiusclay_ Ай бұрын

I've done the same exact thing and it's exactly what ya'll said its mimicking the release point but not mentally being side tracked by the further distance or angle you shooting from

@javianjohnson8746 Ай бұрын

You can tell JJ was genuinely LEARNING from Ray since he was quite for multiple minutes and let Ray speak uninterrupted

@Biggiiful Ай бұрын

Eh... I think JJ was just being polite/a good podcast host/was interested in hearing from Ray. Ray gives good advice here, but its nothing remotely new or unique to anyone who knows how and has spent years shooting. Which JJ has.

@OneEyedKing1 Ай бұрын

Man that’s crazy the way he explained shooting at the end is exactly how I go about shooting I never really work on/shoot threes when I work out it’s just middys and free throws..if I can get the timing of my release down/get a feel for the ball I’m good it’s just adjusting from the ranges im shooting from after that jumping is the easy part

@Tehui1974 Ай бұрын

I never played basketball, but I did compete in the shotput. The release technique that Allen talks about when it comes to shooting is the same as releasing the shotput.

@dbk81 Ай бұрын

This is brilliant. The hand conversion was so good.

@nd8903 Ай бұрын

Those 11's in the background ☘️

@robb911 Ай бұрын

Ray comes from an old school style of shooting. Square to the basket, finger tip shooting, high release point, two motion shot. When you look at the best to ever do it, Curry doesn't elevate that much, palm on the ball, releases on the way up, right foot angled towards the rim. Dame shoots like this and they're both deep three/logo shooters. Obviously Ray found much success in his style of shooting but today's snipers are simply better.

@__J_____ Ай бұрын

Dang, Ray Allen never aged!!! 😮

@lwwarren9485 Ай бұрын

Allan Houston had the most perfect form!

@thunderthumbs83 Ай бұрын

Back my early high school days, it was either Houston's or Glen Rice's form we'd emulate . But I always thought Allan's form was a thing of beauty. Even though I thought my form looked a bit like Houston's, it more resembled Reggie's 😂

@SaadFAzam Ай бұрын

Steph is right... It's Klay... Though Alan Houston is great too

@davidcovington1046 Ай бұрын

Yeah and glen rice

@baobeast Ай бұрын

what an amazing breakdown. Thank you so much Ray!!!!!

@BrutusJrThe3rd Ай бұрын

0:46 Ray definitely caught me with that. He caught all of us 😮‍💨

@investorbettor505 Ай бұрын

Definitely got a lot of my shooting form from these two goats!

@matthewlaird5235 Ай бұрын

Wow! Awesome video. I have told my Nephews to watch Booker shoot, but if Book was not around today, I would tell them to watch how Ray shoots. Yeah, Ray’s stroke is pure.

@cortext36 Ай бұрын

This is the type of basketball talk I love

@dukane14 Ай бұрын

Dave Hopla def recommended shooting with a smaller ball. And you gotta start close and get real good free throws. Win the battle at 15 feet away and the 3 pointers will take care of themselves.

@studentofthesaviors.o.s Ай бұрын

My favorite basketball player of all time

@jennamaguirexO Ай бұрын

This was pure gold.

@Mkings2 Ай бұрын

I had to watch this Ray is one of the best shooters of all time

@k.lee28 Ай бұрын

*The GOAT Shooter Ray Allen* imo just too many legendary clutch shots.

@BettorBelieve Ай бұрын

I got 2 daughters and a son! This is what I need JJ! Thank yall!!!

@christophersalcedo1398 Ай бұрын

JJ you are a brain to the game!! Salute bro.

@user-ko7gk8wz2p Ай бұрын

Josh hart stray mid Ray Allen jumpshot discussion was crazy

@peterfichtner1 28 күн бұрын

Game 6 heat spurs…one of the most memorable sports moments for me ever

@officialjayfix Ай бұрын

I love the free throw line

@MajorChipHazard16 Ай бұрын

I used to obsess over those TNT segments, 'nba fundamentals' back when I was in middle school. I teach my nephews the same shooting drills that I seen ray allen talking about on his nba fundamentals segment he did back in like 06-07.

@TimShow Ай бұрын

So many gems

@nicford1486 Ай бұрын

I love how he talks about working with what is natural for the individual. I was constantly working on my shot because it was very unorthodox, trying to make it look like JJ's honestly. My body and build would just not allow it to be that uniform shot.

@_o.0_. Ай бұрын

JJ was a sniper too man it must have felt great Ray, hearing that from JJ. 🏀 🎯

@accelerationgate5089 Ай бұрын

Great response by Ray here, being aware of different* body compositions and ability.

@HoopsAficionado Ай бұрын

When in doubt, head to the free throw line.

@benswolio3226 Ай бұрын

the free-throw line is magic

@geraldking9385 Ай бұрын

Why jj had to roast josh hart like that. Instantly came to his mind 😂

@nickvin7447 Ай бұрын

Everyone wanted to shoot like Ray, best form in NBA history.

@stipe_ramo Ай бұрын

This is what F'd up my wrist. As an undersized player, I had to shoot quickly, so most of my shooting motion came just from upper body strenght and forearm+wrist movement. Something of a mix like Arenas and Reggie Miller shooting. Anyone else had same issues with shooting wrist?

@austindarr13 Ай бұрын

A coaching staff of JJ Redick, Lebron, rondo and Ray allen would be elite

@Arihiroki_LG Ай бұрын

Korvers jumpshot is what i try to replicate, i know when he went to the hawks he changed the slight hitch jumper became so smooth

@lionelgrisbane-ud87 Ай бұрын

Bruh a couple years ago I changed my form to try to replicate Korver’s and my shooting got sooooo much better

@poindextertunes Ай бұрын

Seen that guy run the floor at a 24 Hour fitness. Just snapping the net from 35’-40’. It was crazy to see how much better he was than everybody else. Even bench players in the NBA are DIFFERENT

@TheAuburn2010champs Ай бұрын

I could listen all day; Ray Allen is a shooter

@overhalltraining1078 Ай бұрын

Shooting is a pressing motion. The issue most players do with shooting is fighting with tension. Soft hands and soft fingers lead to a soft touch. Gripping the ball with your finger tips lead to hard shots, less control and not rolling off the finger. Ball should come off the index finger last or the 2 finger split. Shooting is a pushing motion. Elbow locked before the wrist snap( In retrospect relax your hand and your wrist and lock your elbow, the reflect take over and your wrist will snap anyway) The power from the upper body comes from the elbow not the hand and the wrist.

@nathaniellarson8 Ай бұрын

I haven't played in a few years and I just put up a hoop for my daughters the other day. I was shooting some free throws, really badly and form was very inconsistent, and I was really trying to pay attention to how I was shooting because my form would range from perfect(not my old shot at all) to "wut was that?". It made me think back to my dad telling me to "shoot with your fingertips"(which I did not do). I realized that my natural hand-eye coordination let me get away with some absolute garbage shooting habits back in the day. That's what happens when it just kind of works and you roll with it, lol.

@michaelbedard7859 Ай бұрын

Gus Alferie H.S. great coach had on our backs on the floor to work on release point and rotation. And with a eight foot ceiling you could get to three to four inches to get the perfect spin.

@sisterraysbrother Ай бұрын

I've been trying to get my son to buy into the idea to find his shot shooting shorter shots before he goes to the 3 point line. great tips from one of my all-time favorites. going to save this video, show my 10 year old son and tell him how before Steph, Ray Allen was the man. (and Reggie, of course, too!)

@m2nyce4u Ай бұрын

ray allen so underrated as far as a player. looking at his game from the bucks he wasnt just a shooter

@MRHIPHOPVEGAN Ай бұрын

No one ever said he was underrated what you talking about

@h0tpotatoes Ай бұрын

@@MRHIPHOPVEGANhe’s talking about ray’s overall game. everyone knows how good he is as a shooter but he used to fake people out at the rim and poster mfs. was really good at stripping the ball as well. he was in the dunk contest at one point; his shooting was never questioned but people forget he could do way more than shoot

@KingJerbear Ай бұрын

@@h0tpotatoes exactly, well said. Late in his career and even oftentimes in Boston he ended up as a spot up shooter, and since those are the years he had the most success, that's what people remember him by. Especially young kids who didn't see it live. As a UConn fan he used to dominate all aspects of the game for us when he was in college

@g..._anthony27 Ай бұрын

"underrated as a player"? he is in the hof

@saviorofs0ng Ай бұрын

@@g..._anthony27 these people think anyone that they watched while growing up is underrated these days

@chriswashburn9430 Ай бұрын

Was an amazing person Ray Allen is

@manfromanotherplace_83 Ай бұрын

Those Js behind JJ 🔥

@markdaye322 Ай бұрын

Lot of young kids start out shooting with the wrong size ball

@L0ngstrip Ай бұрын

That was a great video

@newkirk7591 Ай бұрын

thats crazy how curry, as great as he is, is so humble to say emulate klays shot, not his.

@forgottensenju2645 19 күн бұрын

I study a lil bit Ray Allen fr . I have a low arc jumper. But the difference is, it’s more comfortable for me to shoot with my elbow out vs in .

@lucidbarrier Ай бұрын

Really interesting information from a gifted shooter. Also, kids push from their chest while when you get older the push comes from your legs up through your torso into your arms through your fingertips. Even at a free throw, you start lower and push up with momentum into your shot. You don't even need to jump to shoot 3 pointers. I would start from the free throw line and then go out to the 3 point line and shoot "free throws" from outside the arc. That way you can work on your motion without adding your jumping mechanic into it.

@tyh4180 Ай бұрын

This was good info for father's like myself teaching their young son's

@2jmajjic Ай бұрын

Of course Ray breaks it down to where it makes so much sense

@flatearthgaming3756 Ай бұрын

one thing ive discovered that i have no seen anyone talk about is the sound the ball and your hands make during release.. if ur able to have the same sound every shot then u will be consistent

@ginostrings 15 күн бұрын

Let's go Ray ray!!!!! You're my goat!!

@deathrider3171 23 күн бұрын

There is a way for young basketball players (6+) to develop the strength to shoot a regular basketball very early. You can use a 2lbs Medicine Ball and teach them the proper shooting mechanic and have them spin the ball in the air 2-4 inches. They'll catch themselves and repeat. They can increase to a 4lbs in 3-4 weeks. Afterwards shooting the basketball will feel really light in 4-6 weeks.

@tagglanier9451 Ай бұрын

I’ve coached many kids in baseball that have a very similar problem hitting. The bat is too heavy for most kids in the younger age groups. So the only way they can swing is to heave the bat around in a circle instead of using their hands and wrists to guide the bat through the zone properly. The result is a lot of kids reaching middle school and high school with long swings and improper form because they started with bats that are too heavy. But this is a rules issue. The leagues dictate that only certain weight standards can be used. That is to prevent bigger kids from using an ultra light bat and potentially injuring someone. However in practice, it ends up handicapping every average to smaller kid that is just trying to learn the game.

@davidchandler6885 Ай бұрын

thats the thing, how high this man was of the ground on perfect form shot

@andresgirardo8481 Ай бұрын

A must watch for kids.

@Andre7414 Ай бұрын

Gold 🏆

@boiserunner Ай бұрын

Ray is so smart.

@Law34prez Ай бұрын

Wow, this man just gave me a breakthrough in my 30s that no coach could even get close to. Goat sniper ftw

@agentcero4364 Ай бұрын

Only thing I would add is pratice shooting with tired legs, if you can still make it not jumping so much thats dangerous, its still a 2lb ball at the end of the day. Good to pratice on different styles of shooting bc your not always gonna have the open 3, mid-range, maybe it'll be a leaning 3 etc etc

@ayomeech7557 Ай бұрын

Literally did Ray Allen drills when I was in highschool.

@_Maxten Ай бұрын

I used to jump higher and release kinda forward with lower arc when i was younger. Now that im older i cant jump like that and have to compensate to releasing earlier and jumping more forward