Ray Allen on Greatness and His Incredible NBA Career (Plus a Tim Legler Draft)

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This week we’re incredibly excited to welcome NBA legend Ray Allen to The Old Man and the Three! Ray and JJ discuss so much, including Ray’s thoughts about youth basketball and coaching and what they miss most about being NBA players. Ray drops gems about what his mindset was around being a professional, leader, and how he approached practicing his shooting, conditioning, and training, plus what he thinks makes greatness. JJ also shares with Ray some meaningful interactions that they had together as players, and what Ray told JJ during his career that helped him and gave him confidence. They of course discuss Ray’s time on the Boston Celtics and Miami Heat and the sacrifices he needed to make for team success. They also, of course, discuss pregame routines, shooting, and Ray’s legendary shot in Game 6. Then, Tim Legler joins JJ and Tommy for a draft of which players from the 90s would be great in today’s NBA. Needless to say, it’s a packed episode. Let’s go!
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0:00 Intro
3:52 Coach of the Year
11:33 Ray Allen interview
1:34:19 Draft with Tim Legler
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@marcussmith6805 Ай бұрын

"A man has to be willing to plant a tree whose shade he'll never sit under." - Ray Allen 🔥🔥

@vinni522 Ай бұрын

That isn’t Ray’s quote. There’s been various versions of this from ancient texts. Chinese, Greek, Roman, pretty much every well known ancient society has some form of this sentiment. Ray’s just quoting what he learned.

@marcussmith6805 Ай бұрын

@vinni522 still a nice quote. 👍

@jdankerdake Ай бұрын

If you’re rich enough, you can buy a mature tree.

@ripkeyboarding3755 Ай бұрын

@@jdankerdakeI hope this is just for laughs

@tredd7385 Ай бұрын

@@ripkeyboarding3755 you okay?

@Lj2fleeGaming Ай бұрын

JJs pivot into podcasting has got to be one of the best profession transitions ive ever seen an athlete go through

@andreashley6084 Ай бұрын

Idk Charles Barkley did well for himself

@bradd2400 Ай бұрын

Tony Romo

@philiplockett1041 Ай бұрын

JJ is absolutely amazing. Hated him in college. Love him now.

@kb5509 Ай бұрын

I don't think it'll last. He wants to coach, and you can't do both.

@TheKingofsoccor Ай бұрын

@@andreashley6084he was alcholic starting out lol

@matthewjones6264 Ай бұрын

Ray oozes wisdom. A privilege to hear him share.

@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 Ай бұрын

Every sentence is so meaningful it’s crazy lol.

@Bomboclatt1970 Ай бұрын

Very agree with you! You learn a lot from his highlights on his ig.

@alexisrobbins1736 Ай бұрын

yeah idk how wise a guy with a bigass picturebook of obama behind him can be lol

@bn1342 Ай бұрын

@@alexisrobbins1736 always gotta make it a political issue huh?

@wcomalley Ай бұрын

im starting to think he was just annoyed by kg and paul peirce cuz hes on another level of intelligence

@stefankljajic6194 Ай бұрын

What I really love here is how JJ just lets him speak his mind. No interruptions, no ego, no need to be noticed. Just pure and respectful all-ears mentality. Letting the guest speak without interrupting him is very rare in journalism nowadays, even the "hmm"s and "yeah"s aren't there. Props to you JJ

@jimsibley1651 Ай бұрын

Definitely...JJ by being himself, authentic, and genuinely curious/interested, is demonstrating how to be a terrific interviewer. I'd guess he applies the same kind of thing that Ray's talking about to his media work...learn and grow, ask questions, learn and grow...great for us as viewers, and great life lessons

@CeeJM24 Ай бұрын

That quote about planting a tree whose shade you’ll never sit under is beautiful.

@lostdr34ms63 Ай бұрын

Been watching a lot of bad friends but I had to come back to my all time favorite podcast. Love to see JJ still being the 🐐

@michelangelooliver2590 Ай бұрын

JJ was super locked in! You can tell he admires Ray.

@wyattlauth1453 Ай бұрын

Ray Allen is a class act. The fact that he went out of his way to praise JJ and compare the similarities to him as a player even though Ray is still probably better than JJ ever thought he was is a testament to his character

@WhereIsYourID Ай бұрын

Ray straight up is one of the most underrated players all time. Ive never seen another player's prime consistently get forgotten like Rays. Dude only seems to be remembered for his days on the Celts and Heat.

@skillsmachine9164 Ай бұрын

Im not a warriors fan but I feel like klay Thompson's is gonna be the same. Imo hes a better shooter than Ray and reggie etc and some of his clutch performances like game 6 against okc etc will just be forgotten. One of the best two way players Ive seen in the game. 37p in a quarter, 60 in 3 quarters, 4 rings. I still dont understand how reggie miller is a top 75 player over klay. 0 rings and his points ave has never even been high!

@tiismuna Ай бұрын

@@skillsmachine9164 nope nope nope. Klay is not Ray Allen material. I love Klay but he did not show franchise material. Ray is a Superstar/Main man before going to the Celtics. Reggie Miller too is a franchise and winning. Just short in the finals. Klay is only a Microwave of a great system.

@cfgeronimo Ай бұрын

@@tiismunawell said

@skillsmachine9164 Ай бұрын

@tiismuna whats reggies highest point ave per season? Ill tell you what...24p for ONE season. Then it was 22 and hovered around 20. But yeh he was really carrying that franchise to winning wasn't he! Very overated player.

@kingkoopa654 Ай бұрын

He’s not underrated at all. He’s a HOFer. Many rings and widely considered one of the best shooters of all time. Y’all just be talking

@piggybankvillan Ай бұрын

How Ray speaks about basketball is just poetic. This is one JJ's best interviews imo.

@tevindavis9575 Ай бұрын

Ray Allen’s the reason I started watching basketball Thank you Ray and thank you JJ

@orionguevera Ай бұрын

2008 Finals 8 3s in one game he was my steph curry fr

@elijahantonelli9626 Ай бұрын

Same

@cabouo Ай бұрын

Facts man! Grew up in Milwaukee, moved before high school. He was that guy man and always been a class act and good role model

@moses04ms Ай бұрын

@@oriongueverathat was 2010

@orionguevera Ай бұрын

@@moses04msyeah i get those recession years mixed up

@parkmaster14 Ай бұрын

"Man who Plants a tree who he will never see for others to shade. " damn never heard that quote. Ray such a class act.

@kfjgfggdfgygfhughfgb Ай бұрын

BARZZ

@JBlaze187 Ай бұрын

You got a timestamp?

@maciej7499 Ай бұрын

Around 30 min mark

@sudanstowell2533 Ай бұрын

It's an old Greek proverb - " A society grows great, when old men plant trees in whos shade they shall never sit." And it's an amazing mentality, to make contributions that maybe only your children or grandkids - future generations - reap the benefits of.

@Trevor10248 Ай бұрын

30:17

@S-TierIguess Ай бұрын

Something about them Players that came from them late 90’s made some of the best moments in basketball ever!

@YaboiPerky Ай бұрын

So funny seeing mfs unable to move on from their childhood😂😂😂😂😂

@TheDominiqueBallou Ай бұрын

Maybe bc its the era you grew up watching. They did nothing special or different. Its a Nostalgia affect every generation goes through it.

@S-TierIguess Ай бұрын

@@TheDominiqueBallou yea okay my bad nostalgia would make me think a era full of players like Shaq, Tim Duncan, Kobe, A.I. and KG was the best-ever! 😅😂😂😂

@TheDominiqueBallou Ай бұрын

@@S-TierIguess yeah bc kids growing up now feel the same about the current up and coming stars.

@zymbology7471 Ай бұрын

@@S-TierIguess don’t listen to these zoomers man. You literally were not hating on the current gen and they go and hate on you for YOUR opinion 😭😭 Like deep down they must know it was the best era because that ish was unprovoked

@Fash0da Ай бұрын

As a fellow military brat, listening to Ray talk about how it shaped his late childhood is so spot on. It’s a truly different experience.

@Daniel_Ilyich Ай бұрын

This is one of my absolute favorite interviews on this channel. Ray Allen is such a great conversationalist and has so much too share (which he does, generously)! Thanks JJ.

@freeman7239 Ай бұрын

True INDEED

@jaekang7382 Ай бұрын

Ray Allen went Ultra Instinct mode on that shot. The body just knew.

@young_kdo9877 Ай бұрын

The point Ray makes at 15:10 is so true. The crazy part is when I started going outside everyday to the local park and running drills; people came up to me to try to learn what I was practicing. Over the course of a few months, people gathered and I had a consistent squad of folks coming out to work on our games together. Its a big difference between just going out to put up shots vs. dedicated drills and practice. Sometimes kids would come challenge me 1:1 and once they lost; they would subscribe to my training program and start coming back to learn more haha. The only thing that didn't change was how hard I worked and everyday I would come back to work on my game regardless of who showed up

@qthebars Ай бұрын

First of all, Ray hasn’t aged a day 👑 2nd, JJ looking at Ray with reverence is dope to see. Best pod out. Keep smashing the gas. 💪🏿👑🐐

@freeman7239 Ай бұрын

Yeah he looks the same....CRAAAAZEE

@thomaskennedy7842 Ай бұрын

That's a different dude right there. He would have been successful at whatever he had sought to do in life. Extremely intelligent. Extremely thoughtful in his approach to his craft.

@vineezyproductions9638 10 күн бұрын

I wish more modern players would follow this example

@The_Protagonist Ай бұрын

Love listening to Ray. He speaks so well. He’s one of the few players I wish I knew in real life. He seems like he would be a really interesting and genuine person in real life, someone who you can have real conversation with and learn a lot from. This is by far one of JJ better episodes.

@Daniel_Ilyich Ай бұрын

I was a huge Ray Allen fan growing up. Loved his smooth playing style and his gorgeous jump shot technique. He Got Game starrring him and Denzel is a legendary bball movie, too!

@CJSmith-yz8hq Ай бұрын

Ray is the reason I got sucked into college basketball then the NBA. It wasn't just his basketball skills but the way he presented himself... a true gentlemen. Thank you Ray for the great memories growing up. Awesome show JJ you got a new fan even though I'm a UConn dude.

@shawnhunt2565 Ай бұрын

"A man must be willing to plant a tree who's shade he'll never sit under" deep af

@spacexmike Ай бұрын

it's an old greek proverb, but a good one

@kappawhoo Ай бұрын

@@spacexmikedoesn’t make it any less deep. Tbh what other athletes can quote Greek proverbs while understanding the true meaning? Probably a handful. Speaks to his greatness all around tbh.

@ponypower8 Ай бұрын

The way he spoke about techniques, preparation and training truly validates and personifies the phrase "HE GOT GAME", the movie he starred in. Learned a lot from this episode. One of the most informative episodes ever.

@thenopasslook Ай бұрын

one of the most underrated players ever. he was such a good shooter that we overlooked his overall scoring ability in his prime. milwaukee ray was a bucket

@peterranney9488 Ай бұрын

When Ray Allen was talking about coaching and how you can teach unique life skills with it there are two quotes that always stand out in my mind about how to approach life. Jerry Rice "Today I will do what others won't so tomorrow I can achieve what others can't". And Vince Lombardi "The game today is going to come down to a couple of plays. I wish I could tell you all which ones."

@_vijaypanchal Ай бұрын

Ray would make a fantastic coach. He's a true pro and can teach the right habits to the next generation.

@ahamilton1189 Ай бұрын

Man seeing two guys have a discussion about their position and roles at the highest level is amazing. There are probably 10 or less guys in the world that can have these discussions and relate the way they do

@freeman7239 Ай бұрын

Especially with how the game is NOW.,.but Ray Allen and JJ...TO be honest.,alot of players have been told BE AN INDIVIDUAL.,But a simple pass a decision is part of the game

@Scotty80C Ай бұрын

What an absolute legend. So strategic and smart it's unreal

@lawbinson Ай бұрын

Ray, JJ, and Korver are who i built my game around as i got into better competition. Love these guys

@cblang8115 Ай бұрын

This podcast was incredible. Ray is really living proof of mindset and dedication combined with critical thinking skills

@KmtS9 Ай бұрын

Unbelievably insightful. A ton of depth with everything he says. Thank you for bringing Ray on JJ!!! You are definitely the podcast MVP!

@Daniel_Ilyich Ай бұрын

55:49 Great moment in the interview! Kindness and gratitude is a beautiful thing!

@TonyMontana-ww1em Ай бұрын

Amazing. Basketball and beyond interview, worthy of being shown in classrooms, orientations, and training materials for generations to come.

@TheLetterN... Ай бұрын

This is absolutely one of my favorite episodes. I think it's because both JJ and Ray are apart of a relatively niche lineage in their eras and its so cool to see that inheritance being acknowledged

@TheLetterN... Ай бұрын

Also I see my book FRIDAY BLACK on Ray's bookshelf so this is now MY FAVORITE EPISODE. I've been watching since JJ started years ago!

@martinnovales Ай бұрын

My brain actually feels bigger from the amount of wisdom I just gained from this episode. Wow

@flashman453 Ай бұрын

This is a wildly interesting and provocative interview. This is exactly the kind of sports media I love. Thanks to JJ and crew and Ray for doing this

@idksrry3434 Ай бұрын

Loved tht point by jj abt tracking the screen assist, i never thought abt how important it is til now.

@DDSTWO Ай бұрын

TREY-FOUR! Favorite player of all time. You couldn’t tell me I wasn’t him growing up 😂😂 those Sonics years were 🔥🔥🔥

@albus6130 Ай бұрын

Loved him on the Celtics and it hurt when he went to the Heat but it never made me dislike him. This was a great interview!

@jjsavior 3 күн бұрын

Hearing these guys both talk about having other men, help guide their careers, feels good. That's something I've never had.

@vsChris Ай бұрын

Ray Allen is my all time favorite athlete. I absolutely loved this episode

@arghhgggbu Ай бұрын

Ray Allen never seems to grow old!!

@jamieldomasig Ай бұрын

Two of my most favorite shooters of all time. If I'm gonna create my "All Shooters Five Man Line up", these two will definitely be included.

@nickma1422 Ай бұрын

Ray, thanks for 08 with the Celtics ❤

@cheetah219 Ай бұрын

Seeing jj on Flagrant and hearing kind of in detail how much jj looked up to Ray Allen and then this coming out, wild. Must have been kind of an out of body experience interviewing your hero and asking the questions he may have always wanted to ask Ray now that they're both retired.

@j__v1 Ай бұрын

This is an amazing basketball episode! Salute to the OGs and glad Ray Allen getting his flowers.

@JakeBodenhamer Ай бұрын

Ray Allen is one of my favourite players of all time! So excited for this episode! He Got Game really made me fall in love with basketball.

@brianfarnsworth250 Ай бұрын

This Allen interview and Mashburn's were excellent, thank you.

@BuckMarley Ай бұрын

LOVE JJ mentioning Jimmy taking the JUCO route and making it to where he is today. HARD WORK and DEDICATION to your work brings you places. Mans making more history in a couple years on one time compared to other players entire careers 😂

@Warfreak Ай бұрын

You gotta love Ray Allen's work ethic and philosophy of playing the game of basketball. This is why I root for him wherever he goes. That shooting for is so awesome too!

@carlosnunez7196 Ай бұрын

This is a GEM of an episode , one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched 👏🏽

@Dbodnar34 Ай бұрын

The gratefulness that overflowed out of this podcast was beautiful

@BIGPOTHEAD Ай бұрын

Yo JJ & Tommyboy, This episode ranks among your best. Found Ray to be incredibly insightful and it's the first one of your drafts that kept me interested. Tim was actually pleasant! keep it up!

@jonathantulod900 Ай бұрын

Ray is so articulate. You could see he is a self-reflective man. He thinks deep. Very insightful perspectives.

@TheAmeerHD Ай бұрын

I’m so excited to listen to this interview, Ray Allen is my favorite player of all time!💯

@riverdhadda3261 Ай бұрын

i have always wanted to hear from ray allen on this podcast thank you jj this made my day so much better.

@sydneydance Ай бұрын

25min in and I love this conversation already. Ray is so cool and articulate. JJ doing a great job these days 👏

@Smith5410 Ай бұрын

Great episode! Mid way through the idea of an episode of the Mind the Game Pod where you have Ray Allen and Rondo together with you and Lebron popped in my head and I can’t help but imagine how awesome that would be.

@curtisgrindahl446 Ай бұрын

What an awesome interview. Ray Allen is a real mensch. I'm amazed now many articulate, thoughtful athletes are on the scene. JJ is producing the finest content in the field. There is so much crap in sports commentary. Listening to JJ, to Tim Legler and to all these fine basketball players is a delight.

@Lebronluver321 Ай бұрын

I remember seeing ray allen at a Starbucks in Chicago before a playoff game in 2009. He was in his full warmup gear calm as can be. Was always my fav player on those celtics teams and a memory I’ll never forget, he signed my harry potter book lol

@alastairchong4824 Ай бұрын

Man Ray Allen is a great speaker, really insightful and has great stories. Also that 90s draft was hilarious 😂

@muhfknkwin1399 Ай бұрын

From a maintainer, thank you for the cooks like Ray's mother! Best believe, I was *sprinting* to the flightline chow hall for some food between flights.

@kahverengi Ай бұрын

Most ecstasic moments for JJ. Great basketball and life lessons.

@EliteSports24 5 күн бұрын

One of the best episodes in the old man and the 3 era

@loganford1220 Ай бұрын

I haven’t watched a full nba game this season and will still watch every episode for the quality of interviews

@mindaugaszilinskas3940 Ай бұрын

Thats why i started watching and liking basketball,mr Jesus Shutsleworth,my favorite all time

@DanielPak831 Ай бұрын

thank you ray and jj, needed this motivation

@joehill1231 Ай бұрын

I entered high school as Ray came to Boston. As a kid in the Boston area, I was out in the driveway practicing his shot form every single day. Legend.

@kevinpankanin6222 Ай бұрын

Most perfect form of any player

@espectrodelayautja6320 Ай бұрын

Great episode. Perfect. Ray is still my favorite player of all time. Him, Kobe, AI.

@atm1live Ай бұрын

this episode with Ray Allen is truly an eye opener to what life is.

@SoulRBG Ай бұрын

Great listen! There are so many similarities in the Korver / JJ / Ray conversations about honing their craft and learning the nuance of the game.

@terrygoosedowning171 Ай бұрын

Inspiring conversations. Thank you 🤘🤘

@posaune45 Ай бұрын

This is one of the best episodes in a while. 🎉🎉🎉

@chrisburns8562 Ай бұрын

This is so gold for us Sonics fans- thank you JJ

@willgreig4077 Ай бұрын

Fr Ray Allen was the Guy at a time where all other Seattle sports were at a All time low besides maybe the Seahawks

@datle4470 Ай бұрын

Ray my fave all time player, his game was so smooth, i also remember watching he got game in theaters too so that might be part of it

@R2bball Ай бұрын

Love this one so far

@brennanesposito827 Ай бұрын

This is an all time pod. Two of the greatest shooters & minds the game has seen

@lazyymaster0390 Ай бұрын

It's crazy that Mike Malone hasn't won coach of the year and probably wont, this year.. he has Jokic, but I feel like he adapts the gameplan so well for others to thrive around Jokic..

@OscarGonzales-lw1sp Ай бұрын

So many memories of Ray giving my lakers hell 😭 10 year old me was literally afraid.. much respect to a legend who was apart of the reason I started seriously watching the NBA

@kevenwang9285 Ай бұрын

Great insights! Ray has the most beautiful shooting form

@Sbock86 Ай бұрын

Hey JJ. Excellent interview. Huge props dude.

@JC_973 Ай бұрын

All time great podcast episode right here

@kainashhsu Ай бұрын

The omission of the Admiral is egregious, even with modern play style he can still dominate for sure

@michael-wj7sc Ай бұрын

I feel like I should be paying to watch this 😂

@giancarlopacheco6477 Ай бұрын

Best podcast I’ve seen, would love to be a fly on the wall when these guys talk hoops

@MrsYvonneful Ай бұрын

For sure, one of the greatest shooters in NBA history! I don't follow sports, but Ray Allen!!! The best three-pointers that I have ever seen. And yes, I started keeping my eye on him after the movie 'He Got Game'. Don't judge me. lol

@ericmcdade5630 Ай бұрын

I can’t believe nobody picked David Robinson in the draft. He’d be a monster in this day and age

@t99155 Ай бұрын

Glad to see Ray Ray getting an interview....smh dideis hella underrated 💯🔥 clutch asf

@elijahantonelli9626 Ай бұрын

Ayyy that’s my favorite player of all time. What a great human being.

@renegade4288 Ай бұрын

Ray gives the best interviews

@aleksandarhadjov8536 Ай бұрын

Love Ray Allen he was a great player and one of the best shooters ever..most ppl remember him as a shooter but Ray had a complete game.."He got game" Jesus Shattelswort respect..loved the rivalry with AI and I was and am AI biggest fan but Ray Allen was just amazing and in clutch game winning shot Im taking Ray not Steph..respect Ray..great interview guys

@as112 Ай бұрын

There’s a Chinese proverb that’s resonate with what Ray is talking about at the start. Something like it’s better to walk 10 thousand mile than to read 10 thousand books. It helps open the mind so much more

@bonganiofficial Ай бұрын

This was one hell of a basketball conversation !!

@aaronv2787 Ай бұрын

KG, David Robinson, Malone, Stockton, to name a few snubbs. Others I would have expected discussion about: Petrovich, Spreewell. Overall, a fun exercise.

@MarioNotBros Ай бұрын

Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo were my favorite players growing up while they were on the Celtics. Loved the ep.

@mohammedali3128 Ай бұрын

I will listen to this interview on days that I need motivation.

@rano2613 Ай бұрын

49:43 Acknowledge me sempai moment from JJ. I love it.

@tzatziii Ай бұрын

this is pure gold

@ChrisAlbert22 Ай бұрын

Ray Ray is the best. His family is first class. Down to Nike. Love’em!

@javiermacias1766 Ай бұрын

The high IQ between both of them and how they break down the nuances. I like how they talk about coaching kids as well how they break down the game for them