Here's The Thing About Making Friends In Sweden...

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Stefan Thyron

Stefan Thyron

Жыл бұрын

In this video, I discuss some interesting cultural phenomenons when it comes to socializing in Sweden.
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@DeForrest
@DeForrest Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people raised in swedish culture also just have considerably stronger bonds with the people they consider to be friends than a lot of other cultures. I know as an american/swede, I experience quite different types of friendships depending on who I'm talking to and where they're from. My american friends rarely talk about anything beyond a surface level and they consider almost anyone their "friend" who is nice to them whereas my swedish friends really dive deeply into things when we have conversations and even then, getting a "friend" title is an important thing. I think that can make it hard for people who have always had many surface level friendships to move to a place that somewhat demands less connections but stronger ones.
@amyfreeman6959
@amyfreeman6959 Жыл бұрын
Sorry you have such crappy American friends. My friends and I always discuss our goals, our fears, future plans, politics, philosophy. We have the ability to make small talk and be social, but that’s not all we do. Many people have close families and childhood friends while still being able to be outgoing and social.
@MikaelLindberg
@MikaelLindberg Жыл бұрын
Yes, Friends vs Acquaintances.
@DeForrest
@DeForrest Жыл бұрын
@@amyfreeman6959 I would hardly call those friends crappy at all. Just different. The ways people bond, generally, in America (particularly the West coast) tend to be a lot less focused on deeper things. It doesn't make them less meaningful. A lot of friends that you know well enough, rather than a few friends that you know probably TOO well is more the sentiment I was after.
@bokarlsson1027
@bokarlsson1027 Жыл бұрын
im from Sweden..have lot of ancestors immigrated to USA.fr 1850-1907. I found some cousins..we are sending our different family stories, old Photos to each other..very interesting. My place.become quite famous about the immigration. American relatives to our place are sometimes visiting our places and Im helping them find their ancstors even birth places..So I got new friends in US..They are so gentle sending christmas cards..even E-mail. facebook..Minnesota mostly. even Indiana. Illinois.Florida. Wisconsin..so Im learning about our different cultures and they about our culture. Some of my new cousins know more about my socken (village) than Stockholm😉 Very interesting.
@pelaoinfo
@pelaoinfo Жыл бұрын
that's the n°1 excuse that all the unfriendly countries give... "it because in the other countries is fake..."; "we are real friends not like other places" blah blah blah, then you see the suicide rate and depression and you understand better the overall situation. I lived 1 year in on of "these" countries and I met very nice friends that I still go to visit, all of them foreigners... because locals don't mix with foreigner and you need to meet them for aobut 30 years, just to have the right of saying "we're friends" and we can meet and hangout. When I went to Canada in 1 month I got to know more people than living 1 year in "that" beatiful country, just saying... Get over it, you're not open, you don't make friends neither meet people that easily, nothing to worry about, nothing bad, it's just ultra difficult, and depressive as hell but it's you're culture, that's it
@StaffanSwede
@StaffanSwede Жыл бұрын
There are differences between the cities and villages on the countryside. I live in Stockholm and have a house in Bergslagen. When I'm in Bergslagen, it is common sense to say "Hej!" to someone you meet in the street. Saying "Hej!" to a neighbour in Stockholm would cause a completely different reaction. We have spontaneous chats in Bergslagen - that would hardly every happen in Stockholm today. The only exception to the rule is my Italian neighbour here. We do stop and talk when we meet - and we both enjoy it.
@RobertClaeson
@RobertClaeson Жыл бұрын
Just like London v the northern parts of the UK. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrpglNxq2pfLl2g.html
@paulknight9998
@paulknight9998 Жыл бұрын
This is only common among old people who like to bond with other old people because they are old. If a young man says "Hej!" to another young man in the street who is a stranger. He will get a very long, cold and well deserved stare.
@johannalindstrom6262
@johannalindstrom6262 Жыл бұрын
I come from västerås in västmanland and people here they say hi when walking past you if its not very crowded with people around (oftenly) but almost never start talking to random people in the streets but if it happens most people will respond with a fast answer to not be rude and then move from there fast, so it’s really hard to get connections here compared to in stockholm. Many people just get comfortable with the people they grew up with and get a close bond with those people, they dont feel the need to get new bonds, so if you dont have that then you can have a hard time to get new connections. I would say the inner city (Stockholm C) is very mixed with people and many who go to Stockholm from other cities just go to the center which its very different from the rest of Stockholm. It’s alot easier to talk to people randomly in Stockholm and meet new friends, there are also alot of different kinds of people there since its so crowded with people compared to most of sweden (which is not especially populated). But it may look different from whom you are asking since everybody is different and have different experiences!
@moondaughter1004
@moondaughter1004 Жыл бұрын
I live in a small place in Stockholm and it's common to greet and chat with neighbors here. I have family in Bergslagen though and it's indeed different there. I once had a stranger sit next to me and start chatting with me. My relative looked very amused while I was awkwardly chatting with the stranger.
@farbrormelker2341
@farbrormelker2341 Жыл бұрын
@@paulknight9998 A nod in the street or raising your hand to greet the other person while driving isn't uncommon among younger people.
@Gruffas
@Gruffas Жыл бұрын
As a Swede I can say this is really spot on.
@jaba512
@jaba512 Жыл бұрын
Also in Finland
@aelfswyth
@aelfswyth Жыл бұрын
As a Swede (from the mid Northlands), I partly agree. The social circle thing I recognize very well, that's spot on, but I think that foreigners really misunderstand the whole "dating culture" in Sweden. We don't have a "dating culture" the way they do in the USA. We don't "flirt" the way they do either, do we? I mean the whole thing with going on "dates" is basically imported from other countries like the USA, it hasn't existed that long here. And I don't think people "rely heavily on dating apps". Maybe in Stockholm, but in my experience they're mostly know for unserious contacts.
@EN-nz5xe
@EN-nz5xe Жыл бұрын
As a native Swede, I’ve thought about this many times, since I don’t fit in the usual Swedish social behaviour you describe so well. It sure can be difficult to get to know new people in Sweden, if you don’t find yourself in the right context. And what contexts that are the right ones can be tricky to find out. It’s considered normal to talk to new people if you’re both taking the same ceramics class or something like that, but not normal to talk to the person next to you on the bus. And even if you’re taking the same ceramics class for years, and get to know each other quite well, it’s still not very common to take the next step friendship-wise and start hanging out outside the class. I don’t know why it’s like that. As an adult, I’ve found that more than half of my friends are not Swedes, but from Japan, Spain, Germany, USA, Netherlands and other countries. It’s not that I don’t like hanging out with Swedes, I do, but it sometimes seems easier to find new friends from other countries because there are not the same kind of social boundaries.
@andreasosterberg8833
@andreasosterberg8833 Жыл бұрын
I think it's been said before on this channel, not by me, but I'll repeat whoever said it in my own words with a bit of experience myself as a Swed or as "Svensk" as we say. Why I believe this phenomenon happens specifically in Sweden at least might be because of how it works in school. For example: In Kindergarden I was with the same people from when I was about 5 until I was 15 which is 9th grade. That's 10 years of consecutive experiences together and perhaps myself got only one friend at the end of the all those years from a class one year younger than me, I still remember the fond memories of the others and to forget all those memories together is hard since I might have spent about 1/10th of my life with them if I live to 100 years of age. That's not to say that all my mates were in the same class in school, but we still were in the same boat for 10 whole years! Combine this example with the fact that sweden is population wise a small country, but a big country in km compared to most in Europe. Our people is very wide spread and so I who live in a city with only about 5000 people, I did not have much of a choice as a young child to pick friends. I had to choose between 5 friends in Kindergarden at 5 years old for example because there was no one else and that was the only people I knew at the time. As I grew older, the school expanded with more students and more people came in and you got to know more people. Our friends are very valuable because we grew up with them and it's hard to forget people you spent almost a decade with. Compare this with USA where the schools are flooded with a lot of students and where villages are at 100 000 in population! This probably makes school in USA more about learning about as many people as possible instead of spending more time with them, but that's my wild guess and as a swed who never ventured outside Sweden. Thanks for reading if you did :)
@eiforget
@eiforget Жыл бұрын
I'm an American but I completely understand the concept of not wanting to add a 'new' friend to your life so that you have time for the friends you already have. I realize that is not the case with everyone, but I find that it works for me and is necessary, as I have little enough time as it is and also deal with introversion, so keeping my friends circle smaller is healthier for me. 😊
@katrinakarlsson4676
@katrinakarlsson4676 Жыл бұрын
same here
@emmiec7121
@emmiec7121 Жыл бұрын
Since moving to Sweden, I can honestly say it's one of the most isolating country I have lived in. I used to be an absolute extrovert but being here I'm now an introvert. I now understand how the average time foreigners stay here is only 20months I believe. It's mentally draining.
@DarknessIsThePath
@DarknessIsThePath Жыл бұрын
This is also almost the same for people born here but are not "white", they treat us all the same in the end, it is simply impossible to make friends in this country unless you are an "ethnic" Swede or you 100% go along with their agendas.
@dredubz5825
@dredubz5825 Жыл бұрын
I agree and I have a Swedish husband. After 9 years living here, I haven’t made a single friend! 😱😭
@fredricc5771
@fredricc5771 Жыл бұрын
I’am Swedish and I have problems to find friends. It’s a fact..
@longliveavi
@longliveavi Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. Cold in more ways than one. Plus quite a few Swedes I've met have expressed feelinging obligated with hanging out with their friends
@_Lumiere_
@_Lumiere_ Жыл бұрын
@@fredricc5771 Yup, being born here and being an introvert can be extremely isolating if you lose touch with people that you got to know during high school
@RiddimKingdom
@RiddimKingdom Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the Scandi style of interactions with friends and with dating. I’m from New Zealand we’re very friendly, chat to everyone, mix friend groups and invite anyone new to a workplace, sports team or even out and about over for dinner, out for a drink and very quickly try to make them feel “at home”. Now I’m dating a Swedish guy (and live in the U.K.) and previously dated two other Scandi guys and it’s very very rare even as a gf to be able to infiltrate their friend groups. If it’s a couples night out then we spend time together as couples, but otherwise it’s seen as weird if I was friends with their friends outside of them being there. Also, I notice this in the U.K. I’ve made friends here and went out on a night with my British friend. We ran in to a couple of her friends and we all hung out and had a great time. I had a house party coming up so I invited them and my friend told me that was weird as I “barely knew them”. But to me - a Kiwi - I thought that was the point, make new friends - invite people. Another time a British friend invited me and said she had to go to meet up with another friend. I said “oh invite her, we can all hang out together and make a night of it”. She said she liked to keep her friends separate. I thought that was soooooo weird and something that would NEVER happen in New Zealand. She explained “I have my work friends, I have my social friends, my hometown friends and my dancer class friends - I just like to keep them separate”. Whereas, in NZ - we’d mix them altogether and try to get everyone to be friends as one big group.
@nattoralikk
@nattoralikk Жыл бұрын
I'm also a Kiwi and living in Sweden now and I completely agree. The whole compartmentalisation of friends is annoying. I like to be friends with a lot of different kinds of people and it's much harder here because you can't just invite them all over at once as they're uncomfortable meeting with people from other groups or that they don't know so instead you have to hang out with each friend or friend group individually and it takes so much more time to maintain relationships than in NZ where you'd just invite them all over. Also hard to not be able to just invite people over for dinner or something after meeting them, takes months and months here lol
@Becoming0ne
@Becoming0ne Жыл бұрын
@@nattoralikk I’m also a Kiwi and live in Australia now and my experience is that a lot of New Zealand and Australian people do compartmentalise their friend groups. I probably tend to and I think a lot of my friends do too. Only because I feel like they don’t immediately have much in common with each other and I don’t want to make the different groups of friends uncomfortable by putting them in a situation where they have to create conversations for extended periods of time with people they don’t know or don’t have much in common with. This is not always the case - I have been to mixed events and have hosted mixed events - but you can tell people are less comfortable in those situations.
@RobertSK931
@RobertSK931 8 ай бұрын
I’m Swedish with most friends across the world. They open up more and faster, something I love. I am very ”international” and love to travel. When I come back from holidays, I must say that I miss it a lot. I have actully 90 % International friends and then a small Group from childhood here in Sweden.
@maggieh2821
@maggieh2821 Жыл бұрын
My husband is Swedish, as an American I had no issues developing friendships there. I found people in Sweden to be very welcoming to me.
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
That's because you're not from here, because being American makes you more interesting and different. Being Swedish and friendless in Sweden, is a whole different story. For example: My boyfriend is from Romania, so we speak english when we're together. People here became far more interested and friendlier towards me when they thought i wasn't from here. Absurd, i know.
@maggieh2821
@maggieh2821 Жыл бұрын
@@erasedshallbehisname5100 I have been living in Sweden since March this year. People in Northern Sweden where I live are warm & friendly, so it’s been easy to make new friends.
@amemabastet9055
@amemabastet9055 Жыл бұрын
I'm Swedish, but also a "people connector" (or used to be before moving out into the countryside). When I moved from Stockholm lots of years ago, I wanted to give a party to all my best friends from all the different groups I belonged to. It worked very well. Partly because I'm me I suppose, but also because I had stacked the kitchen tables with snacks and "hand food" and taken away the chairs. On the wall I had a poster with "Rules". "1. Nobody can put food into their own mouths. 2. If someone puts food into their own mouth, they must be punished, by hugging the person next to them." Several times during the evening I saw people who had never met before, standing at the table hugging each other and stuffing their own mouths full. There's nothing like breaking the rules!
@jonathanpersson1883
@jonathanpersson1883 Жыл бұрын
sounds like your average swedes nightmare
@jeremyb1234
@jeremyb1234 Жыл бұрын
I think Scandinavians are a bit harder to befriend initially but once you're friends with them they're loyal friends for life
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
Not really, they easily lose touch with each other.
@jeremyb1234
@jeremyb1234 Жыл бұрын
@@erasedshallbehisname5100 not in my experience but perhaps
@erikhellman3974
@erikhellman3974 Жыл бұрын
@@erasedshallbehisname5100 that doesn't mean you're not friends anymore. I've had friends I haven't spoken to for months, sometimes even a year or two has passed and when one of us reaches out we just pick up where we left off. Friendship doesn't die!
@dredubz5825
@dredubz5825 Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried so hard to make friends in Sweden, but after 9 years living here, I still haven’t managed to make a friend. Swedes are super friendly when they are drunk and will act like you are best friends. Then you see them out and about and they act like they don’t know you 🤷🏻‍♀️ also another observation…Swedes don’t like to stand out. They like to fit in and be as “ normal” as possible. I am a bit eccentric I would say and dress a bit different so this doesn’t help me in any way. I’m from Canada where it’s not that difficult to make friends and people are very friendly and more approachable. My husband is Swedish and him and his family are all amazing people and have welcomed me fairly well. I like it here, and will stay, but I really do just hope to one day make at least one close friend.
@tobiasrost633
@tobiasrost633 Жыл бұрын
u already made one close friend . u said it yourself , your "boyFRIEND" do tou really need more then one friend ?
@dredubz5825
@dredubz5825 Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasrost633 he is my husband, and yes he is my best friend but I would like to have at least 1 girl friend. I crave female companionship. My husband has many friends and when he goes out with them I’d like to have a friend I can hang with. My husband also works a lot so I am alone a lot of the time also because I am chronically ill and work from home. We also live out in the countryside so that doesn’t help. I love to spend time with my husband, but I also think it’s good to be apart sometimes and have our own friendships. I hope this makes sense. Different people have different needs 😊
@angelic_stargaze
@angelic_stargaze Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasrost633 ¨Do you really need more than one friend?¨ Bruh. Are you criticizing her for having common sense and being a healthy human being?
@tobiasrost633
@tobiasrost633 Жыл бұрын
@@dredubz5825 ahh i see
@tilde5094
@tilde5094 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing about not having time for new friends: most of my friend groups are like a family - when they call I answer, when they are feeling bad I’m there, and vice versa! And I wouldn’t want it any other way. But, of course it’s time consuming and at any instance where I don’t feel like I have the time or energy that I would want to be able to help a friend, I feel like I’ve failed both them and myself. So, I feel that the statement of “don’t being open to having more friends” comes off a bit… off. Because it’s not that we don’t like other people or aren’t interested in getting to know them, it’s rather that (speaking of course for myself) I want to know them very much! And with that comes a selective aspect. And it’s basically like family planning 🥰
@godiskungen27
@godiskungen27 Жыл бұрын
I dont disagree with this but its also sad bcs not all ppl are meant for you entire Life dont miss out of growth just bcs you so used with same old friends. Its reason that Sweden Sthlm many other places here has most single households in the World and Thats sad. Thats lot bcs women see themself and others as family instead if actually striving to be an asset to future husband/wife or focusing on going outside their own Little bubble. Its sad thing. I get what you say dont disagree but I think also its very very importent to grow by step levels up with ppl that take one further in Life. Just sticking with the old doesnt mean its good at all for growth. Have great day| Marcus
@Kkkllkll
@Kkkllkll Жыл бұрын
Never feel guilty for taking time for your own health and well being. There are times we can be there for our friends and there are times when they need to figure out things for themselves or get support from other places. Take care of yourself first and when you have rested and are well you can be there again for your friends.
@lenamarkusson3180
@lenamarkusson3180 Жыл бұрын
❤ Så bra , att du berättar om Sverige för dina vänner! Ha det bra Stefan.🙏🏻
@ninangcasual
@ninangcasual Жыл бұрын
been living in sweden for over 5 years now and i never thought about it but this made me stop and think and go, "yeah that's it" this is probably part of why living here suits me so well, since i'm on the extreme end of introversion
@anetteholm6384
@anetteholm6384 Жыл бұрын
It´s true and very sad.. The dating culture in Sweden is awful too... Many times I really don´t feel like "typical swede" but born and raised here, with swedish heritage for centures back. Only good thing I can agree with is that we perhaps bond as friends on a deeper level?
@abraham2217
@abraham2217 Жыл бұрын
One reason is that Swedes as a whole see Americans as Unicorns. Thats why you get integrated far easier compared to a Spaniard or a none reserved cultures
@patrikpass2962
@patrikpass2962 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I'm a Swede and I think the reason we keep small circles and dont like conflict is probably because of the cold. In the old days, if you made enemies you got thrown out of the warm cabin. Even worse, if two neighbors had a violent conflict, both sides would would freeze to death.
@adamsjoberrg
@adamsjoberrg Жыл бұрын
This is so accurate, and as a person that loves to meet new people, I hate it but understand it. Personally, I think it's loyalty. It's easy to remain loyal if you don't mix it up. As soon as you start getting into the social grey zones it gets messy. Probably the reason going out to a bar is ok because if your circle is somehow threatened you're free to remain loyal. And going just me and another friend is ok because the element of loyalty towards the group is eliminated. But also the reason 2 social circles meeting causes immediate red flags because if you don't like the company there's suddenly a dilemma of how you are supposed to act. Accepting it would be a defeat while not accepting it would be disrespectful. I think that's a big reason why many swedes opt to sit that scenario out.
@doublebirdie
@doublebirdie Жыл бұрын
As a Norsk, i rarely try to be friends with strangers, but i always welcome people who wants to be my friend! Naive with excperience!
@peterbockholm3176
@peterbockholm3176 Жыл бұрын
I could write an essay on this subject but I'll narrow it down to two things that coincides with what you are saying. First of all, swedes are shy in lack of a better word. Secondly, swedes fears awkward situations. It's the worst thing that can happen to a swede. They can't handle it so they try to avoid it at all cost. And as a bonus for the audience from USA. You are the loudest people on the planet, especially as tourists, and swedes react poorly to loud people no matter what country they're from, so you come in the front line. Swedes are very soft spoken, the only time you will hear loud swedes is when there's more than moderate levels of alcohol involved. A drunk swede will easily "outloud" an american, no inhibitions whatsoever. Pitiful and embarrassing.
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
Svenskar är riktigt pinsamma, ja. Framförallt det där med alkoholen...
@GeneRauXxX
@GeneRauXxX Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with being drunk and becoming louder, accept it, dont judge yourself, eh!
@Sunrazor
@Sunrazor Жыл бұрын
I don't know where you live in Sweden but I disagree on every point.
@QDEIRI
@QDEIRI Жыл бұрын
@engineer gaming xd
@violetl.4615
@violetl.4615 Жыл бұрын
@@Sunrazor explain?
@jboj8430
@jboj8430 Жыл бұрын
Swede here. If I go to hang out with my friend and it turns out there's a random person there (who is my friend's friend yeah, but I wouldn't care) I would be very upset! I didn't sign up for exerting all the energy it takes to be nice and get to know a new person. I just want to hang out with my friend. And besides, after that inital meeting this other friend and I wouldn't be able to hang out on our own. I'd be expecting the first friend to tag along every time. Oh and also, if a Swedish guy walks up to a Swedish girl on the street and tries to flirt with her, she'd think he's trying to kidnap her. Good video! It made me have a deep, deep think.
@liloolo
@liloolo Жыл бұрын
"How to be a hermit", by "Swede here", a guide om how to avoid making new friends.
@hugoingelhammar6163
@hugoingelhammar6163 Жыл бұрын
I have always been a mix&matcher when it comes to friends, even though I'm a tall blonde blue eyed swede. I love when my friends from different groups get to know eachother, but sometimes I feel this need from others for me to "choose side" and a big unwillingness from them to meet my "other friends". Usually these friendships never grow as strong though as the ones who are open to meet my friends and introduce me to their friends. So, you can find swedes who are like this, but to meet new friends in a new context you usually need to apply a more careful strategy. Don't ask them to hang out only you two after you just met once. A swede will then be creeped out and think for themselves "what do you want from me? Don't you have your own friends?". So instead, ease in and talk to them a couple of times to warm them up and see if you connect, then propose something!
@alfredsaalo1441
@alfredsaalo1441 Жыл бұрын
Interersting to hear your perspective. I feel like we often wait for the other person to take the first step whether we are talking friendships or reationships. I like the fact we generally genuine but it would not hurt to be more open sometimes.
@possaah
@possaah Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you also acknowledge the fact about age. I've moved to Stockholm at an "old" age (33) and i find it hard to make new friends at this age.
@pizzalord3n
@pizzalord3n Жыл бұрын
It truly is. I struggle with that too.
@GeneRauXxX
@GeneRauXxX Жыл бұрын
Hey, dont be silly hangout with your own age. On the contrary. It is easier to become friends with people like you, tough part is finding them, go find them. If I managed to come to stockholm we are going to barbecue party, you and me and couple more if anyone joins. Dont worry, hmu.
@pizzalord3n
@pizzalord3n Жыл бұрын
@@GeneRauXxX I'm a 35yr old parent with 2 small kids and my small nucleus of friends is already diminishing pretty quickly. Really depressing.
@GeneRauXxX
@GeneRauXxX Жыл бұрын
@@pizzalord3n hey foRget that, it is not even related, we will be doing just fine, everyone will be jealous/
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
Why would age be a problem. Are you open to people of your age and/or older? did you try joing some sort of group, based on interest? PS: I have noticed some people who complain about how difficult it is to find friends being fairly introverted themselves.. it takes TWO to tango.
@DNA350ppm
@DNA350ppm Жыл бұрын
My take on this is, that despite a stereotype that Swedes are not very social, they never the less are socil in their own manner. A) Swedes are very family-oriented, so that a simple birthday for one of the children easily gathers 25-30 people. Say, two children have two cousins their own age on both mother's and father's side. They have their four grandparents and a few uncles and aunts and some close relatives, who are married the second time, and a few childhood friends their families know well, too. As the apartments and houses many times are too small to make sitting for all the visitors, therefore in many families the celebrations for each child are like: one with the small family on the actual birthday, one party for the friends from kindergarten or school (you invite those who invited you to their party, up to the whole school class, maybe 20-25 kids), then one party for the relatives, and that case mixed generations, not unusual with 20 people. Because of the weather these must be indoors or in a party-tent if you have a garden. Restaurants are so expensive, for average families they are not doable. We arrive and leave simultaneously - the standing cocktail-party mode, or the French-visit (drop-in style). Here two hours are mostly kind of minimum-norm, or a whole evening (dinner etc) of min 4 hours. Then we celebrate each parent and grandparent, our closest aunts and uncles, and closest cousins, and there is a shortage of weekends and Xmas-days, New Year days, sportsholidays, Eastern day's, and of course the whole of May with exams, engagements, Christenings, and so is packed with celebrations, many of which are centered around family-connections. Then comes July and Midsummer which often is a bit more open and outdoor'sy, but for many a family tradition, too. The whole summer is packed with wedings and postponed jubilees. And many of these are two-three day things in a heritage-cottage. BTW most people don't have even one extremely lonely and "forgotten" family member. But their plights are taken care of in gatherings by churches, societies, municipalities, and charities. If the secluses want to come, that is. It is common that people volunteer to reach outto the lonely and sick. We don't have people who live in the streets and are homeless in that sense, that they sleep without shelter. Not regularly, that is, but I don't know too much about Stockholm, though. B) In Sweden we got a lot of festivals, concerts, "market-days", fairs, exhibitions, home-comings, and other gatherings outdoors - these are crowd-drawing for those who like mingling. Maybe you meet a lot of people when it is "fastlags-åkning, konstrunda, hembygdens dag, valborgsmässoafton, första maj, midsommar-firning", tall-ships-race, sports-competitions, beah-volley, världens längsta kräftskiva, folk-dance, jazz, heavy metal, rock, classical music-weeks, outdoor-opera and theatres, tivolies, tiding up beaches and nature trails, year around you have all about football-clubs and hockey, and dancing, and choirs, and in season winterfishing in holes in the ice. In November everything about Xmas begins! It's crazy much social activity! C) If you are a student at a university, join something called "nation". You'll have a lot fun, and you'll meet Swedes who have moved far from home after their "studentexamen" and they want to meet new friends. If you are a foreigner who is in Sweden to work, do join Swedish clubs and societies that organize people who like the same pastimes or hobbies For those who feel really lonely, do try to help Swedes who are very lonely and need a friend, find contacts via a parish or the Swedish Red Cross, which has a Friend's contact service. It is very versatile. D) Look for events, for example at the nearest public library, where there tends to be lists and calendars. Volunteers are welcomed everywhere, if you want to give of your time and energy. Don't hesitate to ask Swedes where you could find an opportunity to volunteer. If you study, contact a "nation", if you are working, contact the labour union, if you moved to Sweden for your loved one and feel lonely, then know that sports, parish, music, dance, or nature, can be the issues to connect around. Swedes are very effective and well-organized, it is not likely that a café is a good place to meet friends. But you can always suggest a "fika-paus" but don't be surprised if people decline, they take their whole future life in consideration before they consent! So they feel very responsible for getting anybody's hopes of friendship up! E) I would say that it is typical that Swedes do not use each other to while a way time and to use others because they themselves feel bored, like expecting friends to provide fun and entertainment only. Time is money and doing is appreciated in Sweden. Give a Swede a helping hand with their chores and they'll never forget it, and will try their best to return the favour in kind. Welcome to friendly Sweden, there is "a Sweden" (a context, a network) to suit everyone and anyone.
@josefinelagerstrom2643
@josefinelagerstrom2643 Жыл бұрын
Detta är SÅ sant, verkligen ett svenskt beteende. Om en svensk blir inbjuden till en vän kommer den fråga "vilka kommer?" och om det är nån de inte känner så blir det stelt. Jag är sån själv. Om jag blir bjuden på en fest och det kommer folk jag inte känner så är min instinkt att tacka nej. 😅😅😅
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
Lättare (eller mycket svårare?) för en sådan som mig då som inte känner någon till att börja med... 😒 #foreveroutsider
@hadyhallakk9056
@hadyhallakk9056 Жыл бұрын
Guys how can you get me to sweden I swear I was born in the wrong country
@missa2855
@missa2855 Жыл бұрын
Når du forklare det på den måde forstod jeg bedre hvad Stefan mente med at vi ikke mixer og matcher grupper, lol.
@kerstingrundstrom9245
@kerstingrundstrom9245 Жыл бұрын
Tror att vi generellt vill ha få vänner, men vill verkligen lära känna de vi har. Det värsta jag vet är bröllop, massor med nya människor och i bästa fall vet jag vilka hälften är.. Dessutom är vi udda med att det är så oartigt att avbryta den som talar. Många tycker att svenskar är så oengagerade i diskussioner, men vi väntar på vår tur att prata och det kan bli väldigt konstigt ibland...
@F0nkyNinja
@F0nkyNinja Жыл бұрын
man ska inte vara så jävla rädd för att det blir stelt för det är inte farligt, det bits inte.
@Made4Fan
@Made4Fan Жыл бұрын
I am an foreigner and I am raised in Sweden half my life and I can confirm this. Making friends through friend circle is a cultural behavior in Sweden. I think It has to do with the mentality of " If my friend is friend with this person, I can trust this person as well".
@siffe3336
@siffe3336 Жыл бұрын
When men flirt with me on the street I just find it weird it's like if someone sat next to me on public transportation when there are plenty of seats it's just kind of creepy and annoying. It's especially creepy when it happens in the middle of the night on my way home from work, like to me being an immigrant is not that good of an excuse, depends on how long someone has been here but I do expect people to adapt to society and adopt the culture of the country they have decided to live in.
@lpinbrez
@lpinbrez Жыл бұрын
I find this very interesting… born and raised in Minnesota, and I have heard this my whole life from friends who have relocated here. About how cliquey Minnesota is, how we are only close friends with people we have known since kindergarten… maybe because so many here are of Scandinavian descent? I am not.. and I have also lived overseas, so maybe why I am more open? Not a hard and fast rule, but I did hear some parallels. 🤷‍♀️
@TheEathos
@TheEathos Жыл бұрын
This is really accurate för me as a Swede. Didn’t know it was unique for Scandinavia. I do mix my friendgroups from time to time, but when you wanna do something with around five people it’s so much easier to start by asking just one group. Also, I think the norm might come from friends getting jealous or offenden when several guys from ’your’ group hang out with other people, without you. People stick the their groups to avoid drama (even if most people don’t mind). Swedes do not like conflict…
@bradyjohnson7705
@bradyjohnson7705 Жыл бұрын
That's s not my experience so far but it's ridiculous being jealous with no reason not unless the person is an idiot..
@Nightcxxite
@Nightcxxite Жыл бұрын
@@bradyjohnson7705 in sweden we have ”different types” of jealousies, i think other countries too have that, but “avundsjuka” and “svartsjuka” jealousy and envy We tend to be/get jealous” (i don’t really know how to use the word in a sentence) just because we have our friends, 1-4 people maybe, and if they are together without me, I feel like they left me out. It’s kind of like… insecurity. I am a kinda social person, BUT i like to only be with my one best friend, day out and day in. I don’t like being with multiple people since it’s much harder to bond in a group in sweden, we tend to have our own group, in our group. I think it’s hard for people outside, or haven’t grown up in Sweden to really understand our culture and why we think a certain way. They just call us insecure and ridiculous. Ans maybe it is ridiculous at the same time it is that they don’t understand.
@bradyjohnson7705
@bradyjohnson7705 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightcxxite e by is different from jealousy jealousy I understand I can be that way only when I like people but I changed because people should be entitled to have their freedom too but to be honest Sweden isn't that bad ..
@bradyjohnson7705
@bradyjohnson7705 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightcxxite I tend to be more of a restricted group too now but because I need to be careful with people. Can do groups but I tend to choose onw or two out of all I'm not for sure everybody ass well
@aleera8257
@aleera8257 Жыл бұрын
I'm an EU citizen in Sweden, I see how some people might hate this but For me it was perfect here, no one bothers me and everyone minds their own business, I enjoy that. The only thing that bothered me was that an immigrant that was clearly on weed or some drug came up to me and said I was thick while my bf was gone in the train, I was really afraid but thankfully he walked off after. I miss having friends sometimes but the drama that comes with them is off putting and I don't want to deal with that anymore. My swedish bf and our online friends on games and VR has been enough socialisation for me the only downside is I don't get to practice my swedish as much, but like I said I see why that might upset your average person, though I think if you participate in a group activity, go to club or bar in sweden you'll definitely be able to satisfy your extroverted needs 😁
@natalieherrera
@natalieherrera Жыл бұрын
My husband and I are moving to Stockholm from Colombia in January. I’m watching this hoping to get tips to make friends there 😂.
@mailyholmertz2006
@mailyholmertz2006 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Sweden! First of all study Swedish, most Swedes do speak good English but will appreciate you making a try to master our language. Join a club or a sports team or a gym…..doing things together makes it easier. Do you have kids? Meet other mums with kids, then you’ll have something in common. I know from long experience with young parents. You’ll be fine, just keep an open mind! January isn’t the best time of year to begin your life in Sweden….have a fika with semla , Google!, and look forward to the spring!
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@natalieherrera
@natalieherrera Жыл бұрын
​@@mailyholmertz2006Tack så mycket! We have already started learning Swedish. I agree with you, I think learning Swedish will make it easier for me to connect with the culture. I don't have kids yet, just dogs. I will consider the advice to join a sports team or gym. I also hope to make friends at work :). Winter will be different for me because we don't have seasons in Colombia. However, I am open to the experience. Thanks for the tips!
@natalieherrera
@natalieherrera Жыл бұрын
@@erasedshallbehisname5100 Thank you!
@mailyholmertz2006
@mailyholmertz2006 Жыл бұрын
If you can bring the dogs here, or get new ones, you’ll see that walking the dog is a great door opener to get in contact with other people. Having something in common and doing things together…..that’s the key!
@AUSSWE76
@AUSSWE76 Жыл бұрын
Hey there Stefan great videos you´ve made! An Aussie in Stockholm here :)
@struntFF
@struntFF Жыл бұрын
You might be on to something. But at the same time. I don't feel like many foreigners even tries to befriend you here in Sweden. But as you said. Swedes are mostly shy around new people and stick to their core group of friends. That's probably just our culture I guess. Just keep trying, but try not to be to pushy. And you'll find at least one or two friends. You have to start somewhere! Being able to understand and speak Swedish is probably one of the most important things. Even though Swedes speak pretty decent English. Ofc It might be hard in the beginning. But just show that you're willing to try and do your best. And most Swedes will embrace you 🙌
@DarknessIsThePath
@DarknessIsThePath Жыл бұрын
Swedes should meet ppl halfways, not demand that ppl submit to them 100%
@struntFF
@struntFF Жыл бұрын
@@DarknessIsThePath You can't force people to befriend someone. If you don't have any friends it's ultimately up to you to change the situation. Sure if you're lucky enough, you might become friends with someone anyway. But if you're the one without friends. You probably have to do most of the work. Especially if you come from another country without any connection to the country and the people. But yeah sooner or later you'll most likely find a friend. But don't expect people to automatically befriend you. Then you'll probably be disappointed.
@stefanjohansson2373
@stefanjohansson2373 Жыл бұрын
If a person like me meets lots of people at work, I am forced to divide people into two categories, friends and acquaintances. Something that is very common in Sweden is that people say "this is my best friend". At the same time, they indirectly say that all other friends are less worthy! Another common thing is for guys to say "this is my female friend", to make sure it's not a partner, but "just" a friend. A pushy person who wants to befriend me quickly is always suspected of having ulterior motives. This is due to my professional role where they can gain benefits by knowing me. I understand if I have a special situation and sound a little paranoid, but this way I don't risk being disappointed - once again. 😂
@matszz
@matszz Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, I hope you stay for many more years!
@pontush9471
@pontush9471 Жыл бұрын
Having spent time in the US and lived seven years in Spain i would say making friends in Spain is not easier than making friends in Sweden. Another thing about Spain is how important family is there as well as the pandilla of friends Spanish people seem to have. I really like Spain and especially the weather there and although i am fluent in Spanish, as a swede, Sweden is not too bad. Gothenburg is quite different to say Stockholm and other parts of Sweden. People are slightly more open here. At the end of the day it is all about your own perspectives and personality when it comes to meeting new people and letting them into your life. My overall impression is that Scandinavians value deeper relationships in general and invest a lot of time and energy for friends. For better or worse.
@annicaesplund6613
@annicaesplund6613 Жыл бұрын
Most people in Stockholm is from the sticks and have an attitude to look like a "real" Stockholmare.
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
This probably applies to all countries in the Nordic region-and, from what I`ve heard, from Germany and the Netherlands as well. Also; there are introverts and extraverts in ALL countries on the planet, including the Mediterranean countries. Had a conversation with a German guy and an Italian in the sauna at the gym some weeks ago, we agreed on many things, including the fact that these stereotypes were perhaps a bit.. exagerated. The Italian, for instance , said that both he and his family were introverts and I personally know to Spanish guys who are also fairly introverted, they will speak if you speak to them but otherwise they are fairly quiet people. Besides ,many of us are ambiguous; somewhere in between.
@ancon6585
@ancon6585 Жыл бұрын
I'm 30 y/o swedish man. Me and my few buddy's, all have a significant other, full time job or study. None of us have a single child, and we don't even have the time to get togheter once a year. So just imagine the day someone decide to get a child, guess it's simple as. "see you in 18years, when i will be free again" So can somebody explain to me. Why is it so difficult for some individuals to understand, that some people don't need, care or even have the time to get more friends? It's not even imaginable for me to have more then 5 friends, i struggle to even remember my current friends birthdays😅 Or is it just a difference in how we define friend? What people are describing in the comment section, are an acquaintance for me, not an actually friend, if that makes any sense at all. Have a great day if you made it this far 😄
@velmad3091
@velmad3091 Жыл бұрын
Nice that you are so interested of learning languages. I bet the Spanish is on top. Your learnt Swedish so fast. Great video. I agree, hard to make friends here.
@Techcycles
@Techcycles Жыл бұрын
...well said Stefan. As a swede i recognize this, im really not sure why this is the case in our culture. I really think there is something we are lacking and making people more Lonely - regardless of the reason. I hope people like you - American immigrant can help us change to the better and be more open to friends and new social situations!
@vzhaman3931
@vzhaman3931 Жыл бұрын
Svenskar tar avstånd, det är tråkigt, men vem tycker om Amerikan? Folket där för pratsam, pratar mycket nonsens och nästa alla kan inte öppna munnen utan ordet ”fxxx”. Nej USA är ett skräpland!
@Techcycles
@Techcycles Жыл бұрын
@@vzhaman3931 nästa en hel kontinent, massor av delstater - ett skräpland? Jasåminsann..
@stevenisidore5094
@stevenisidore5094 Жыл бұрын
Sweden is one of my LEAST favorite countries in Europe because it’s one of the worst countries to make friends.
@perttisuorsa4678
@perttisuorsa4678 7 ай бұрын
Have you looked for meetup groups on the net ?
@nl5320
@nl5320 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! And thank's for a great channel :) To my idea: As somewhat of a Google Maps-junky I have realized that American citys - as they are much more newer, I guess - is built with straight roads, and squared blocks. How do american think of coming to Sweden, where a lot of citys is just a mess of roads everywhere without logic. Cosy or disturbing?
@nikhum322
@nikhum322 Жыл бұрын
How many shallow "friends" do you need to confirm your own self image? You can interact with a lot of of people without pretending them to be your friends.
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
THIS!
@uvejspreza9879
@uvejspreza9879 7 ай бұрын
Been living in Sweden for a little bit more than a year and I don't have one friend here, Swede or foreigner. When I go to the gym or outside in the park and try to make eye contact with people, they don't even look into other people's faces. I thought summer might be different because I heard people are more open when days are long and warm but nope. I guess they are just more open to their own group, not to strangers and making new friends. Welp it is gonna be a long winter lol
@niclasn2695
@niclasn2695 Жыл бұрын
I'm Swedish and your analysis is very correct!
@peternilsson5964
@peternilsson5964 Жыл бұрын
Is that a bong in the bakrground? 😆 agree about everything you said im realy lonely becaus i mowed aroun a lot. I live in northen sweden
@erobwen
@erobwen Жыл бұрын
I am swedish, and I think this is correct. Actually, a lot of swedes do not even want any friends, and for them it is just work relations and family in their life. But it is a huge difference in what part of sweden you visit. Go to Jönköping or anything south of Jönköping if you want to find more social people.
@likemysnopp
@likemysnopp Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that your face have changed over these years and how you even speak english. It sounds different from the first time I saw you which I think was when you began this channel tbh.. im happy you enjoy it here and is also open to actually becoming swedish instead of trying to be both american and swedish like many seem to be stuck in being
@TinksiehTink
@TinksiehTink Жыл бұрын
That's really interesting. I'm born and raised Dutch, living in Sweden now since 2010 and I'm always the social connector! Sometimes I get frustrated because I feel I'm the glue, keeping all the social things happening, because everybody is so used to it. Nobody invites us because we're always hosting at our place 😂
@mortil
@mortil Жыл бұрын
yep it is very on point that it is found wierd to hit on someone on the street or in the store. i always did it when i was younger (around y2k) but now i think it is worse. and when you are just regular nice and open (friends always tell me im not acting swedish) to girls or girls that hang around with other friends they always tend to think im hitting on them. just so sad.
@thissunchild
@thissunchild Жыл бұрын
I'm from the UK, but have lived in Denmark for 32 years. The thought of mixing my friend groups sends waves of terror throughout my soul. Yeah….so… I don't go there at all. Whether it's because I've been living in this country for so long, I really don't know.
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
You don`t have to excuse yourself due to your personal preferences, different people, different choices, and what`s wrong with that? besides; why try to make "everyone" friends, if you know that they are probably too different, anyway..like NADA in common. I don`t drink much alcohol, for instance....so I would not be comfortable going to places where there is a LOT of alcohol involved.. does it make me anti social? don`t think so! I have my interests ,and I prefer socializing with people who share these interests,I mean, I don`t think it is too much to ask for that two people have at least something in common..
@thissunchild
@thissunchild Жыл бұрын
@@bjrnjensen7074 Agreed. I'm an enneagram 5, so I wouldn't be mixing my people groups together if were all stranded on Mars.
@martinroos549
@martinroos549 Жыл бұрын
This "friends" concept sounds fascinating, could you explain it please? Oh, and by the way, I'm Swedish.
@musicenthusiast19
@musicenthusiast19 9 ай бұрын
Is it hard to become a doctor in Sweden?
@johannajuutilainen4779
@johannajuutilainen4779 Жыл бұрын
It is sad that it takes a long time to make friends in Sweden, that is also true for swedes/scandis themselves. If I ,as a scandi would move to another swedish town and start from scratch with a social network, it would probably take a longer time for me to make friends there than if i moved to a random town in southern europe for example. I also think that there is a difference depending on what social class you come from. Working class and second generation immigrants can be more inviting and welcoming, and among these socialgroups there is not so many limitations as described in the video.
@bilalabderrahmane7164
@bilalabderrahmane7164 Жыл бұрын
my tip for getting to know people and making friends in Sweden is to join activities you'd expect likeminded individuals to be at: a sports club preferably a team sport like football or team-orientated sport like boxing, wrestling etc not fitness club, hobby groups, start up meetings, social causes depending on the type of activities you enjoy. Sweden has very well organised and free to affordable social clubs of all kind.
@sucram1018
@sucram1018 Жыл бұрын
Why? People already have their group of friends so what makes doing that any different when people have their group of friends and aren't interested in more?! Make it make sense!
@LiMaking
@LiMaking Жыл бұрын
lol me as a swede.. you've got time to do things with your friends every week?
@DeusVultSwe
@DeusVultSwe Жыл бұрын
Har faktiskt aldrig tidigare analyserat det på det det här viset men när man tänker efter så håller jag med. Är nästa lite samma sak om man flyttar från ena delen av Sverige till en helt annan del så blir man endå lite av en outsider och får svårt att hitta nya vänner om man nu inte är super social... flyttade själv från Skåne upp till Norrtälje och blev samma sak för min del.
@oscareriksson9414
@oscareriksson9414 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, I guess you are right. I am one of the swedish guys who grew up in an area where there were people from many different nationalities, litterally from all over the world but also many swedes. I was used to a more open social way of hanging out and a lot of generousity. But when hanging out with a swedish friend as a kid in their house was always so akward. The parents were polite but at dinner time, I was always left in my friends' room while they would eat. And this was not this one weird family, no, this was actually the norm I kid you not. I don't know if this is still normal, but I guess so I am not as old as my daugther claims 😀 it always bothered me and this strict social group mentality is one of the things I don't like about this culture. It's pathetic to say the least. So now as an adult It's sometimes confusing because I don't really understand my own cultures social cues. And when I go to southern europe to visit extended family, all though I feel so much at home and taken care of there and it's more like hanging out with the kind of friends, half or 2/3 of my childhood friends were, I just don't have the nuance from growing up with the language and customs. It's pretty strange I guess. But I feel I have gained a more open and warmer social ability and I just get bored with "too" swedish people 😀
@astronemir
@astronemir Жыл бұрын
Don’t let anyone else define what it means to be Swedish for you. My wife’s multi generation Swedish family is extremely outgoing, and have been going back to the late 1800s if diaries and letters are to be believed. (Although her dad has undiagnosed ADHD). There are many outgoing people in this culture too, and maybe they all feel a bit out of place, but they’re all equally Swedish and can thrive if they just don’t give a fuck. I know that her parents literally meet dozens of people a month from all around Sweden while living in a small town. They made and keep their friendships and make new ones even into old age. It’s awesome to witness.
@andreas543
@andreas543 Жыл бұрын
I am native Swedish too but most of my friends have origins in other countries such as Lebanon, Spain, Kosovo, Finland. I too get "bored" with "too Swedish" people.
@Nightcxxite
@Nightcxxite Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i’m swedish and the worst thing i’ve ever done was connect my best friends- because then they became best friends and i was left out. That’s how it is in small-town-sweden.
@snoowbrigade
@snoowbrigade Жыл бұрын
as a swedish 20yo i only have 3 friends. I have known them for 5, 9 and 11 years respectively. the rest are acquaintances
@scottstorchfan
@scottstorchfan Жыл бұрын
You have to understand. There is a huge consensus culture in Sweden, born I’d say from deep lutheranism. Its not ok to kind of do “you” if it go against the values of the “herd”. At the same time we have no sense of national identity. We are kind of like Singapore of Scandinavia and absorb all other cultures while having no identity of our own. There is also a huge middle class which have a “lick up kick down”mentality. Meaning it’s a priority to have friends at the same or higher socioeconomic position ignoring if you actually like to spend time with them.
@Blue138UEF
@Blue138UEF Жыл бұрын
Your background picture in the thumbnail is of Venice not Sweden!
@LupusRutilus
@LupusRutilus Жыл бұрын
Swedes are very easily annoyed with others, and the older you get, the less tolerance you have for other people. If a Swede hosts a party, there isn't just a list of people to invite, there is also a black list of people to avoid. So when friends bring and mix new people, there is always this risk of another boring person that you have to spend a whole night talking to.
@swinto4795
@swinto4795 Жыл бұрын
Still though, doesn't that make you boring not to try getting to know this new person? You judged the person before you even met them...
@dianagb9770
@dianagb9770 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I feel the same way in terms of having enough friends. Like making friendly acquaintances...sure. But never want new friends. It's maybe an introvert thing.
@TheOpacue
@TheOpacue Жыл бұрын
I think one aspect also, is that we have such a strong governmental state, that people grow into this false sence that they "shouldn't" have to work particularly hard (or at all) for things. We're used to have healthcare, schools, childcare, elderlycare and so on, for free. And that underlying mindset doesn't match with how humans/reality works, cause relatinships come at a cost, and that cost is generally effort. You simply need to put in effort in order to find friends, create connection, show that you're interested and care for people. You can't just sit at home, waiting for friends to just magically appear, or send in a form to the government and ask to have some friends sent to you. You gotta put in work, and I think a lot of other countries simply are more open about what demands are expected to be met from the people. In the US you actually have to work for most things, here you kinda have to work for a lot of things, but as long as you then pay your taxes a lot comes for free afterwards. And people get used to that.
@baccano2787
@baccano2787 Жыл бұрын
Really nice video! I have been living in Sweden for a while but haven't had good luck making longer lasting connections. Could anyone here give me advice where or how I could make friends in Sweden. Partially it is hard for me because I can be shy and antisocial at times and fear awkward situations.
@uvejspreza9879
@uvejspreza9879 7 ай бұрын
After 10 months, have you seen any changes in making new friends here?
@mehditate
@mehditate Жыл бұрын
I would love to collaborate! I moved to a cabin in the nordic woods of Sweden from Miami about 7 hours away by train from Stockholm. Would love to connect Stefan!!
@akina1053
@akina1053 Жыл бұрын
I found it easier to connect with other parents who are raised from a different culture compared to Swedish parents. I'm glad I have close connections with these parents. Without them, postnatal depression would have been harder to cope with.
@johanglindgren
@johanglindgren Жыл бұрын
Underligt tycker jag. Känner ofta igen mig när man förklarar svenskar men jag känner inte igen mig själv i det här fallet, jag är ofta öppen för att träffa folk, dock känner jag igen mönstret i samhället, främst tjejjer då. Män verkar mindre nervösa att träffa nytt folk av någon anledning, det är absolut min erfarenhet.
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
Äntligen någon som inte skönmålar sitt eget land och ska försvara det. Och ja du har nog en poäng, det är en av anledningarna till varför jag mest haft killkompisar.
@lucyterrier7905
@lucyterrier7905 Жыл бұрын
My son & daughter in law moved to Bro 2 years ago. They have made a couple of friends from work. They ate now buying a house.
@rottenwest3492
@rottenwest3492 6 күн бұрын
Sweden is like ikea’s stuff. From distance it looks really good, but after you bought something Sweden becomes a swear-word in your vocabulary.
@ramdalion
@ramdalion Жыл бұрын
i think this has to do with that Most swedes take their relasionships (love/friend/acaintances ETC) quite seriosly they want to spend enough single one-on-one time with their friends so noone gets left out and noone gets forgotten in a corner....i (as a swede) would hate to invite a friend to a gathering and then for the whole durration just talk with them a coupple of minutes (feels like they might felt left out)....but maby that is just me ? några andra svenskar som kan håller med / opponerar sig mot dessa tankar ?
@ActualCounterfactual
@ActualCounterfactual Жыл бұрын
I was born in Sweden but lived most of my life abroad... when people ask me about Sweden (and I am forced to generalize a certain trait) I often say Swedes are "socially handicapped" and they love spending their lives inside a personal security blanket ... more than ever, this really drives me nuts ... LOL
@eliasanderson4216
@eliasanderson4216 Жыл бұрын
This is true and understandable in many ways but it has it's negatives, makes it really hard for newcomers, specially introverted ones to make friends
@madhurag1922
@madhurag1922 Жыл бұрын
Want to learn swedish. Pl tell me how
@vikrantkulkarni1241
@vikrantkulkarni1241 Жыл бұрын
Does the cold weather in Sweden makes it's inhabitants cold in behavior ?
@habbomanish
@habbomanish Жыл бұрын
Its not about the weather. Canada has cold weather too. Same in Norway and Denmark. Still they are more social.
@rallers3002
@rallers3002 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Swede and I struggle in Sweden.
@Ibriden
@Ibriden Жыл бұрын
My Spanish friends know my Sahrawi (Western Sahara) friends who know my Algerian friends who also know my Spanish friends :-)
@felip4950
@felip4950 Жыл бұрын
Makes it so hard to celebrate my birthday because I can’t mix all my friends 🤣
@aidagholampour100
@aidagholampour100 Жыл бұрын
Interesting , it seems good idea have circles friends
@KingMcAl
@KingMcAl Жыл бұрын
As a Swede it's quite hard to make friends unless you make other Swedes come out of their comfort zone.
@Blakhouse
@Blakhouse Жыл бұрын
if you learn to know someone in a group is not the same person as you know them 1 to 1. Both ar important though
@myfre3dom
@myfre3dom Жыл бұрын
I gave up making friend here after trying for nearly three years moving in Sweden.
@Katarina_B
@Katarina_B Жыл бұрын
This wining about making friends in Sweden is getting really old and it’s false. What I mean, it is not typical to just Sweden. Finding new friends when you are adult is hard and gets harder the older you get, unless you are outgoing and have no problems just talking to anyone. I lived in five different countries and in every one of them I had problems finding friends, because I’m introvert. When you lived in the US how often did you make new friends? And with a friend I mean true friend not an acquaintance. How many true friends did you make on weekly bases? Are you sure you didn’t leave anyone behind? Are you really saying that you would rather meet someone you just met, than your a long-term friends? You are describing Americans as shallow, with no deep friendships - everyone seems to be just an acquaintance. Not long ago I was listening to an Irish podcast where they were discussing difficulties making friends in adulthood. Irish people are very outgoing and friendly, it should not be a struggle to make friends there, yet this person was struggling. On the other hand, my Swedish teacher is very outgoing and has no problems making friends. The fact is, it is normal for people to struggle to find new friends when they are adults (especially if they are on the introverted side), plenty of articles online (even from the US), you add to it - moving to a new country and not speaking the language, it will be much harder. If you truly want to find new friends, you will have to actually actively look for them. Also what kind of creep is hooking up with random girls on a street?
@ItsAMbutyoutubechangedmyname
@ItsAMbutyoutubechangedmyname Жыл бұрын
As a swede that have lived in 4 countries now over a decade in the states I cant agree more with you. One thing i noticed when I moved here was that Americans are more on the surface polite ( yes I'm doing a general thing not everyone is the same) so they are friendly to your face but will blow you off in the same breath while in Sweden its more of a small talk and if you don't like someone its more direct and not this fake politeness just because you need to be polite maby that's why swedes gets a rumour of being stuck up i guess . Adulthood makes it way harder to get real friends and not just acquaintances maybe because as adult we are more set in our ways and not as innocent as we where as kids
@iceboxchamberlain1
@iceboxchamberlain1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's BS. I know there's a meme that people think you're a psychopath if you talk to a stranger in Sweden. Have these people ever tried talking to a stranger? They are usually very friendly.
@ericanoren5212
@ericanoren5212 Жыл бұрын
@@iceboxchamberlain1 I think it all depends on where you live. I live in a village with 600 people in it, and we always chat and say hi to each other, but for example in Stockholm is completely different because there is more people there. That's why city people and farm people rarley get along
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
@@iceboxchamberlain1 Never met an unfriendly Swede here in Oslo, and I`ve met quite a few of them. Some people should take a close look in the mirror, and ask themselves if perhaps they are the ones who are doing something wrong, perhaps basing their actions upon stereotypes blown completely out of proportions..
@jermainedyson7350
@jermainedyson7350 Жыл бұрын
You Feel like a superstar I swear I’m going back
@antibody6195
@antibody6195 Жыл бұрын
i need 2 friends ty carry my cascet when i drop, thats all. if i had 100 plus friends i would never ask them how theyre doing and really put efort in to the answere, or even care about the answewe. If i have 3 friends, they cant hide how they feel when im asking, cause i know them too well. therefore counting ass real friends. other ppl is like classmate, gymbuddy or shit like that, ppl you only hang with to get something out of and them getting someting out of it. for example training. studying or w/e. and inviting someone to the click that the other friends dont really like could fuck up the dynamic in the group and start alot of frictions. i would never let my colegues from work meet some of my real friends xD.. another thing is that if i have 1 friend that another group meets for the first time and they dont like him. you kinda get put in the same category as him/her beacause theyre like if he likes him and he/she is like that, he must be like that too kinda deal
@bumblebee2956
@bumblebee2956 Жыл бұрын
After 12 years living here…I don’t have a single Swedish friend 😂 and I don’t regret it. Most distant culture people I have seen 😅 (skin color matters as well)😂
@hassanbolagligsman
@hassanbolagligsman Жыл бұрын
Then why are you here?
@hassanbolagligsman
@hassanbolagligsman Жыл бұрын
@@bumblebee2956 no it is not, you are the problem we are having with this country, if you have no interest in being one of us you should not live here
@hassanbolagligsman
@hassanbolagligsman Жыл бұрын
@@bumblebee2956 Multiculturalism and harmony? Really? with 12 years of shootings stabbings and rapes how many of us swedes do you think cares about your culture, your wants or your needs? You wanted a home here, we gave you one, and now you want us to change for YOU?
@hassanbolagligsman
@hassanbolagligsman Жыл бұрын
@@bumblebee2956 it does not matter where you are from, you can be from germany, US, India for all i care, but if you do not want to be part of our society you should not have come here, do not go to another country and expect them to adapt to you.
@mikaellilja6202
@mikaellilja6202 Жыл бұрын
Let`s take a coffie and make friends- Its not that difficult... We swedes are not that hard to know...
@vanilla__latte
@vanilla__latte Жыл бұрын
So... being an introvert is an acceptable social standard/culture in Sweden? I must move there. ;)
@thailux6494
@thailux6494 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Portugal and, to be honest, I think our culture is somewhat similar. I'd find it rude or uncomfortable for a friend to bring a stranger to a meet up. Groups stay separate. Obviously, there are some exceptions. But I'd say it tends to be like that.
@duartesilva7907
@duartesilva7907 Жыл бұрын
That's just not true. If you live in Sweden as a South European, you will see Portuguese are very very close to Spanish but specially Italians actually. Also French
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
You are not allowed to say that! you are a Latino, and as such you MUST conform to the stereotype.. otherwise we are all getting soo confused. PS: sarcasm.
@bjrnjensen7074
@bjrnjensen7074 Жыл бұрын
@@duartesilva7907 well, there seem to be exceptions everywhere..
@JonasSalomonsson
@JonasSalomonsson Жыл бұрын
As a Swede I find the behavior of compartmentalize people a tad strange and sad…
@puhpower3036
@puhpower3036 Жыл бұрын
Eyyy my name is also Stefan and I live in the north of Sweden
@malaikaholmen8801
@malaikaholmen8801 Жыл бұрын
Så sant😂 (so true)
@1Haddad
@1Haddad Жыл бұрын
Guys watch 1.25x speed
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
This is what i hate about Sweden, and i don't have any friends here (despite the fact of being Swedish and that i've lived here my entire life) I hate the Swedish mentality. It has a strong "You can't sit with us" sort of mentality, like "Ew, a stranger, gross!" Thankfully people from other countries are way more open to get to know you and stay open to the possibility of friendship, etc.
@supersmurf4884
@supersmurf4884 Жыл бұрын
Dont sit passive and think others will invite you, why would anyway talk to random people for no reason? Get into some activities, you make friends with stuff you do together. Get into that group of people first. Have different friends for different activities. If you like to play pool/biljard, go to down to pool-hall, ask to play with someone do that several times, people there with recognizance you, you are part of them, if ever want to play pool with anyone of them, just ask = super-friendly ..BUT they probably wont invite for dinner or TV-night together or whatever If you want to do anything else, get other friends for just that hobby. Also important, if someone ask you for anything, be that friend, make that "sacrifice" and they will do same for you. If you always "Naah too tired today", I rather stay at home, instead of come down and play pool. why would anyone else make an effort to come play with you. Problem is NOT you, swedes have this wall towards other swedes also. Hobby = break walls Great communities you will be welcome to join, Magic the Gathering best people once you know them. card-game Bridge also always open for new people... get involved in something.
@vikkran401
@vikkran401 Жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying, and I'm Swedish too, but despite us being aware of this mentality, I just can't help hating everyone I don't know
@carro-xb9oz
@carro-xb9oz Жыл бұрын
it also depends how open u are ureself.:) i f u dont do or say anything..noone else is going to say or do something either so.
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
@@supersmurf4884 What are you even talking about? Why are you assumimg i don't go the extra mile and already did my best? Speak for yourself, you don't know me, so stop acting like you do. Stop making assumptions. Rude.
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 Жыл бұрын
@@carro-xb9oz No shit Carro, det visste jag inte.
@Mittigibbs
@Mittigibbs Жыл бұрын
If you've plans to meet up with me, you don't show up with someone I don't know. I would consider that really inappropriate.
@Sandra-ct1rd
@Sandra-ct1rd Жыл бұрын
You have understand the dating rules.
@DrErnst
@DrErnst Жыл бұрын
I don't like Swedish culture that much it builds loneliness into the system for the less fortunate for instance if your unemployed or a single mum in this social circle system how would they meet new friends (in church or single mum groups i guess)? To Swedens defense: In Sweden people hang out in interest groups like the scouts, or sports.
@Trekatterochjag
@Trekatterochjag 3 ай бұрын
As a parent it is propably the easiest. Just book a playdate wirh your kids friends from daycare or school.
@fredricc5771
@fredricc5771 Жыл бұрын
I’am Swedish an even I struggle to make friends in Sweden.. Finns and Danish are way better 😉 and easier.
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