Here's Why I Ordered A Volkswagen ID.4 Over A Tesla Model Y

Here's Why I Ordered A Volkswagen ID.4 Over A Tesla Model Y | Episode 95

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Coleton is buying a VW ID.4
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@noway6238 Жыл бұрын

$20k difference between the id4 and model y is probably the biggest factor here. If they were the same price, model y hands down has all their EV bugs sorted like battery bms/ preconditioning on route, charging curve, 16v lithium ion that should last the life of the car, app control and software, drivetrain power, etc etc. The timeline of vw actually updating stuff is so slow it's kind of infuriating. Hopefully things get better and best of luck.

@fiehlsport Жыл бұрын

And now 5 months later it's crazy how cheap the Model Y has gotten, it's a no-brainer now.

@MYJ61 Жыл бұрын

I love Colton! His personality, his explanations and details are excellent! Kyle, what a great decision bringing Colton into the Out of Spec fold!

@StephenDeLaRosa Жыл бұрын

We went from Tiguan to ID.4 in 2021. 3yr lease with 3yrs of free EA charging. It's a great car that's electric. Shout out to the tight turning radius!

@steveisaacson7627 Жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! Keep the podcasts coming!

@markpassell8379 Жыл бұрын

Now that the Y has the price cut, it’s no contest

@savedby_grace6110 9 ай бұрын

I prefer the ID4..better build quality

@justanotherguy7798 Жыл бұрын

My uncle has had his 2022 ID4 for almost 6 months now and have had no software issues, no problems of any kind and a very solid build, Teslas charging structure is amazing but the best part of owning an EV is charging at home not at the charging station so doesn’t mean much to most people.

@roberthicks686 Жыл бұрын

3 1/2 months for me and no issues

@ultrastoat3298 Жыл бұрын

Oh so as long as you don’t need to drive the car too far VW is great 👍. Sweet.

@bjhorton2005 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching your videos a lot and… I went to the Volkswagen dealer Monday. They had 3 id4. One was sold the other two were cancellations. I got one. Hehehe. Traded a v8 pickup truck for it too!!! I’ve had a Volt before. Love this id4!

@PhilT993 Жыл бұрын

Great chat. Sound logic 🙂

@druiz012 Жыл бұрын

Most of the time I charge at home... but the 6 times a year I travel more than 800 miles no way I'd have an ID4 over my model Y. But I do respect that everyone is different and have different needs. As long as there's lots of great electric cars out there I am happy.

@samjam6989 Жыл бұрын

I don't even drive that long once a year lol. 😅

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

With them opening up the Tesla superchargers, this will not be a factor in the future.

@TheDavidVydra Жыл бұрын

We love our ID.4. Thanks for spreading the word.

@SFzip Жыл бұрын

The ID.4 has a ridiculously small turning circle, especially the FWD version👍

@SFzip Жыл бұрын

VW ID.4 specs: AWD 36.4 ft, RWD 31.5 ft. no FWD. Tesla Y 39.8 ft.

@dblissmn Жыл бұрын

This is a huge plus for me. The turning radius on Teslas, 39 feet or more depending on the model, is just not acceptable for me.

@teslatim78 Жыл бұрын

We had the EV6 and the Model 3. Couldn't be happier!

@BillB33525 Жыл бұрын

The ID4. From Chattanooga will have the new Tax Credits. Great choice, sw will hopefully get fixed.

@jinalshah6903 Жыл бұрын

Great videos.. can you make one with all ID 4 tech features? Thanks in advance

@ss944 Жыл бұрын

We also did order an ID.4 but we’re in the market for a model Y. Our decision was based on 2 factors 1.cost and 2. back seat ride quality which were a bit more important for our family. I am a fan of the Tesla integrated services but those 2 factors basically led us to a non Tesla suv type.

@donaldrubbful Жыл бұрын

I just purchased Id.4 awd pro s, love it. My wife and I looked into ionic 5, did not like, sat down, did not like the layout, and size, to small, do not like the Tesla look of the dash. We are in our late seventies, maybe that has something to do with are taste.

@Sophia-vk5bq Жыл бұрын

I saw your wife got one too. It's definitely on my radar the next time I get a new car, which probably won't be soon since I literally got a new one two months ago. lol

@philotimo5089 Жыл бұрын

Seems like most people that won the ID 4 are satisfied. It seems like the people that do not own the ID4 are dissatisfied. Go Figure

@kevinn1158 Жыл бұрын

A Model Y performance in Canada is 91k CAD. The ID4 AWD top spec is 63k CAD. And the VW gets a 5k dollar discount. The EV6 AWD top trim is 63k. I'd go with the latter 2 everyday of the week.

@tannermcnabb4836 Жыл бұрын

This.....in BC we have a provincial incentive as well. Our ID4 MSRP and options is about 57 to model Y 91. So sticker price of $34k difference, plus the $9k in incentives the ID4 qualifies for, and it's practically half price.

@gregpochet4812 Жыл бұрын

9 month owner of a 2021 RWD ID4 that I lucked out and found on the lot. Love it. No major issues. Software is not the best, but I look at it as a car first. Couldn't beat the price.

@savedby_grace6110 9 ай бұрын

I love mine as well! 21 Pro S, CP0 with 32 ñk miles for $27.3k ( price of vehicle only)

@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын

Colton is the epitome of brand loyalty for VW.

@algroke9394 Жыл бұрын

I think the Hyundai Ioniq 5 is the better SUV but $10,000 is definitely hard to give up. A good local dealer also matters. Good luck, looking for that paint correction video.

@jellyd4889 Жыл бұрын

VW are even giving love to their Golf i.e. Rabbit. My Golf 8, 2 years old, as part of a routine inspection, got a replacement of the infotainment system... And update to the OTA gateway. Next day I got an OTA version upgrade to the newest Golf 1899 version... All the silly issues seem to be fixed.. will probably get some new ones, as it is software...

@BatteryBro Жыл бұрын

Any idea how much faster the 2022 charges than 2023? quick googles were not turning up an answer. Dealer has a discount on 2022 which I thought was interesting additional savings. Not sure how much to weigh the charging difference.

@chuckkennedy6553 Жыл бұрын

I'm curious to see how non-Tesla EV Makers cope with the recent TESLA price drops. I've been looking at the Y, ID4 and E-tron myself. The AUDI interior layout suits me best but the extra $$ is hard to reconcile. And I'm talking the AWD versions. Crazy thing is playing with the TESLA pricing to still get the full $7500 IRS - in one scenario need to add the $4000 seat option to boost it to the $80,000 threshold! Ummm. Same car.

@brandenflasch Жыл бұрын

Model 3 + ID.4 is a solid combo

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

NOPE , model 3 LR < id4.

@dethpuck Жыл бұрын

ID4 is an incredible value. Love mine so far. The 2023 does have a slightly different battery SK Innovation instead of LG Chem which is why it charges faster than 2022's.

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

its "CRAP" - Munro . VW has no plans for making PERFORMANCE R type iD4 , incapable of supporting R type enginering. and Customers wanting an EV R type VW , will have to wait for TRINITY platform in 2028.

@mrtriathlondude Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 okay

@JohnAlsayegh Жыл бұрын

Talked out of getting 2 Teslas so got 2 iD4s instead lol

@bekind9668 Жыл бұрын

Hope it all works out for you, but many people have been having issues with VW software. Charging shouldn’t be an issue if most of your driving is short distances. I would think that the Chevy Volt would be a great buy also if short commutes is mainly what you use it for. Teslas may cost more, but they have the best software and charging infrastructure.

@dethpuck Жыл бұрын

I have a 2022 with 3.1 there have been a few minor bugs for me, but nothing big. hit 10,000 miles on it next week.

@RonRattie Жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 ID.4 first edition, I put 10,000 miles on it in the first 30 days I had it on a round the U.S road trip. It’s fine for long distances.

@PedroBrandaodrums Жыл бұрын

I have a MY21 no issues at all best car I ever owned. Road-trip is a breeze with those massage seats.

@RonRattie Жыл бұрын

@@PedroBrandaodrums the massaging seats really are awesome on a road trip. Heated seats at the same time…

@PedroBrandaodrums Жыл бұрын

@@RonRattie im in South Florida never used heated seats lol

@richh650 Жыл бұрын

Love this interview but did note one issue... Paying for 2 or 3 new expensive vehicles but yet just renting your home? Just not sure that is the best way to utilize your finances, but it sounds like you are looking to buy a home in the near future. Good luck as you guys do seem to have your heads on straight and are leaders.

@echang527 Жыл бұрын

Why not Bolt esp if saving money is the goal?

@ScottyStock Жыл бұрын

in a couple of weeks? WTF, I have been waiting since Feb

@treborg777 Жыл бұрын

I’m going to guess that VW mitigated at least some of their software issues over time by changing some of the hardware components over time for better software performance. That would explain why earlier ID.4’s don’t seem to benefit as much by newer software builds.

@walterrumohr7090 Жыл бұрын

How much did it cost !

@supay_inca Жыл бұрын

We made over 15k on turning in 3 leases last year. A great year indeed 🤣

@Indy_at_the_beach Жыл бұрын

"We're trying to buy a house next year". Then loading up on car debt seems unwise.

@Swimmerchild Жыл бұрын

Your American prices sound crazy to me. Here in Iceland the Id4 starts at 6,200,000 ISK without a heat pump, 2 wheel drive, bare bones. With upgrades it costs (4 wheel drive) and stuff it’s 8,8600,000 ISK. I literally paid 9,200,000 ISK for my Long Rang Y with extra wheels and Tires. No brained here

@stevencross6461 Жыл бұрын

You guys mentioned his wife always running the fuel tank on E. My wife does the same thing. Every time i get in her Audi, the fuel light is on. Don’t under estimate that “intangible” value of being able to always have a “full tank” with the ability to charge at home. For my wife, not having to manage a trip to the gas station is worth a lot of her time and stress. EV all the way.

@robertt1336 Жыл бұрын

Kyle, hands on the table. Is there a gun under there 😂. Kidding. Wife loves our ‘23 ID4, but lack of heat pump and battery preconditioning makes me loath it. Not that it’s easy to justify the extra $15k+ for a model Y… they’re so dang pricey

@jimparr5412 Жыл бұрын

How come Audi and Porsche can get the software right but vw can’t?

@blakebannister9702 Жыл бұрын

I had 5 tesla's and just bought an ID 4 pro S. The build quality and the drive is definitely better. Technology and performance wise the tesla is definitely better. I like how I can close the screen for the sunroof and the seats are incredibly comfortable. It's definitely not slow but the LR is a little faster

@cmac9710 Жыл бұрын

6 months ago the model Y was 13k more... Did you change your mind when they dropped the price..??

@RussellHogan Жыл бұрын

Do all these guys lease their car? Amazing.

@samclark3879 Жыл бұрын

The fabulous Tesla Supercharger network is just one major factor that makes any other EV a non-starter for me. I wouldn't trade my MYP for any other vehicle, bar none.

@sharkflower123 Жыл бұрын

I just had an ID.4 for a week as a loaner... It is very comfortable as well as tight like a Mercedes SUV, which is great. BUT the buttons on the steering wheel are a disaster...

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

I hate all the piano black. I just cannot deal with that.

@johntrussell7228 Жыл бұрын

Nobody talks about the INSANE insurance costs of Teslas. They are absolutely OBSCENE to insure and paying 4 to 5 times to insure them completely wipes out any gas savings per year. My ID 4 Pro S AWD was only $166 / 6mo more to insure vs $1200 more for a Model Y Performance!!!

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I just realized that as well. Did not even think about the insurance costs. Mine doubled in costs. Although I did replace an 8 year old car with a new Model Y, so I guess it should go up some, but doubling seemed excessive.

@christophersambrelizarazo Жыл бұрын

Is prime a sponsor?

@landondonnelly5101 Жыл бұрын

I think we will go ID.4 now and maybe second gen cyber truck.

@hsiu1984 Жыл бұрын

Just had a test drive on ID4 pro S, not bad.. not bad. After I look at its price tag... yikes, there is no way I would choose this over Tesla after Tesla's price cut. ID4 will be able to win this if it get another 10k price cut I believe.

@stephenboyington630 Жыл бұрын

Have never understood leasers/leasing. What is the draw?

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

If you are going to change your car every three years, the lease payment is going to be less than the loan payment if you are buying it. So if you look at it as a subscription, how much you pay each month for a car, the lease is cheaper.

@Aestheticslily Жыл бұрын

Please get the Model Y or Ioniq 5!

@steveroper8733 Жыл бұрын

Where is Jordan these days?

@nikicollins5809 Жыл бұрын

I LOve this car!

@Wankidy Жыл бұрын

Not waiting for the tax credit? Didn't hear anything about IRA credits.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Жыл бұрын

Well if you have already a Tesla anyway - and you want a 2nd car which works and is quite economic, especially if your wife don't want to be bothered with gimmicks and just drive.

@moorpmoorp Жыл бұрын

Now that model y is 46,000 (yes) with the tax credit, do you change your thought

@samjam6989 Жыл бұрын

Tesla just has bad build quality 😅

@beautyofgrace3915 Жыл бұрын

10,000 deduction is fantastic for incentives. NC doesn’t have any incentives for evs.

@ArielBatista Жыл бұрын

I have an ID.4 2022 and it's been a road worrier. It charges faster than what you think. Software 3.1 is great.

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

my TESLA charges @ 1000 mph , and faster than iD4. VW iD4 is a Taxicab.

@badhairday_247 Жыл бұрын

I work for the VW group unfortunately ID.4 range drops like a stone with the heaters on.

@philotimo5089 Жыл бұрын

Yea right I am sure you work for the VW group??

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

@@philotimo5089 They do take a hit with the heater on. The US version does not have a heat pump.

@user-cw7jy9zr3z Жыл бұрын

2miles is so short... Why dont you just get your wife an E-bike? I'd also just go with a long range cheaper model y.

@rioriggs3568 Жыл бұрын

In Canada... (all prices in CDN $) The VW ID4 (275 miles of range) starts at $40,000 - $12,000 (government incentive*) = $28,000 The Tesla Model Y (330 miles of range) starts at $70,000 - $5,000 (government incentive) = $65,000 It's surprising folks are ready to pay 2.3x the price for the Tesla. Based on your experience, would you pay so much more for the Model Y? And that's after yesterday's massive price cut, the Model Y started at $85,000 before the $15,000 price reduction. * Cars under $60,000 get an additional $7,000 provincial tax credit

@simonbergen8771 Жыл бұрын

You must be in Quebec! $9K max in BC.

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

Why are you pricing the LR Model Y instead of the base Model Y?

@mikafiltenborg7572 Жыл бұрын

"Good luck" with VW's software😆‼️

@mikek4024 Жыл бұрын

Enjoy charging and lesser specs

@itzlikedat8506 Жыл бұрын

Lot of people complaining about the software issues. I found nothing wrong with my 2023 model

@whatthe6532 Жыл бұрын

Some Americans have their priorities out of whack. Why are you leasing expensive cars(a liability) when you’re still trying to save for a house(a long term asset)

@samjam6989 Жыл бұрын

Yep they aren't thinking right and you only lease cars if you have a business and can reduce your taxes. Otherwise leasing a car is not economical 😅

@thomaswilson2917 Жыл бұрын

Guess he doesn't go on long distance trips.

@jakesjacobs5075 Жыл бұрын

You probably won't tell us when you get rid of it. 🤔

@johnnykim9493 Жыл бұрын

I did the same!

@tymanot Жыл бұрын

Driving the id4 sister from Skoda called enyaq. Best car ever. Flawless until today. Drive it since 1,5 years. There is no better family EV out there. If you do not need redicolous Performance and charging speed. Greetings from Germany.

@timsheehan8713 Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how you are getting the $7,500 federal tax credit in December 2022. I haven’t heard anyone else say it works this way.

@GregHassler Жыл бұрын

The current tax credit is still in effect for manufacturers that haven't exceeded 200k units, like VW.

@hlyles32 Жыл бұрын

And assembled in America. 2023 ID4 is built in Chattanooga, TN

@johnbranca6933 Жыл бұрын

Good luck with VW's software...

@CheddarKungPao Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to Coleton's experience with the iD.4! Please don't partner with Logan Paul!! 😂

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

he will have SAME expierence as ALEX from E for Electric , who now wishes he kept his TESLAS.

@dougholmes6631 Жыл бұрын

Colton is awesome! But just made a terrible decision. My neighbor has an ID 4 and has nothing but software issues. Has to be the worst software of any vehicle I have every seen

@brandenflasch Жыл бұрын

ID.4 is a solid vehicle and a pretty great value with the tax credit.

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

NOPE, iD4 is CRAP its built as bad as the Chevy BOLT, but has buggy Software and WORSE Software. the iD4 is built on a GAS car platform MEB thats " CRAP " - Munro . and iD4 is too SLOW, too INEFFICIENT, too short RANGE , and built too HEAVY. its NOT even built with ADVANCED manufacturing , like the BMW i3 or the AUSTIN model Y w/ underbody GIGACASTING w/ 4680 Structral battery pack. the iD3/iD4 are already OUTDATED and not Advanced. also , iD4 is lacking a FRUNK , which is one indicator of Advanced manufacturing. as EVIDENCED that VW has NO plans for making PERFORMANCE R type using the MEB platform. Customers wanting a R type BEV car , will have to wait until 2028 for the TRINITY platform , VW next gen EV platform made in Germany @ TRINITY factory , that has been pushed back. iD4 does not even support 1000v DC charging.

@kybrowns Жыл бұрын

I bought a First Edition for my wife. It’s the best value in EVs. I’ll probably get one for me once wife’s it’s paid off. I didn’t realize you can still get the full $7500. I thought that changed with the infrastructure bill. So you can still the full $7500? Is that for just until the end of 2022? I know ID4 is being made in Tennessee, but I wasn’t sure if the batteries minerals met the requirements.

@josephtrevino8771 11 ай бұрын

Jeez. Leave the basement and get some sun.@@markplott4820 People with a limited budget, me included, who want to put their toe in EV water, speaking figuratively, will conclude that ID4 is good value for money. All the vehicles you mentioned above are priced a lot higher than the ID4, where one can expect to have your frunk, your advanced engineering, gigacasting (?), 4680 Structural battery pack (sounds impressive), and your fast (you win the red-light challenge) and long range. Speaking of long-range, define it, what's long-range for an EV that's $75K+? Lastly, leasing with $7500 coming off the top and 3 years of unlimited fast charging at EV America, how does Telsa fast charge (power and $) compare? Telsa's have the best software, and the best FC stations but are more expensive upfront and you have to pay for electricity. Insurance was an additional $180/6 months new ID4. New Telsa does what to insurance premiums? Service and repair - How easy is it to find a VW dealership vs. Tesla? Are you going to ship FedEx/UPS your vehicle and then maybe get a vehicle back in X number of days? Lastly, get that daily Vitamin D outside, and your outlook will improve!

@timgurr1876 Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy a car that I’m helping to pay for through the Fed Tax credit.

@Solar750 Жыл бұрын

It cracks me up how many of the OS channels spend a huge amount of time critiquing VW and then literally all your friends and family end up buying an ID.4. It is a the perfect transition car when moving away from ICE. Not a perfect vehicle by any means, but the flaws are forgivable (and fixable in theory).

@danielbazinga 5 ай бұрын

Just sold my ID4 for a tesla, awful software

@oscarschmidlappen2302 Жыл бұрын

You're living the American Dream, Colton. Three expensive cars, two of which are electric, you rent an expensive apartment, and you dream of owning a home some day. That is completely backwards from the dreams of your grandparents, and possibly your parents. Just sayin'.

@samjam6989 Жыл бұрын

Yeah dude got it backwards. Should invest money on property and get a big house and pay off mortgages instead of leasing these toys lol. I would just get a house and buy a second hand Toyota corolla hybrid 😅

@jiminauburn5073 11 ай бұрын

@@samjam6989 That is what I did. Got out of college, had two roommates. Paid off my student loans. Bought a 10 year old Honda. Saved for down payment on house. Bought house. Bought new car as my finances improved. Kept house as rental, bought new house. Kept second house as rental and bought new house. Rental houses are worth almost $1M more than what I owe on them, plus I get about $2K in positive cash flow from them every month. Just ordered Model Y LR, and will pick it up on Friday, paying cash.

@CandycaneBeyond Жыл бұрын

If she's driving only 2 miles a day why not just buy a used car

@azorglub Жыл бұрын

Once Tesla drops its prices back down to earth, the competition gonna suffer.

@markplott4820 Жыл бұрын

even IF Tesla was $5,000 more , its a better value.

@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын

Even further? ID4 costs about 8-12K more here in Europe with similar configuration as a Model Y. And is still slower. Of course there are always the base models. Empty. Nobody buys those.

@azorglub Жыл бұрын

@@wolfgangpreier9160 the only reason to buy an ID4 over a model Y is because it's cheaper.

@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын

@@azorglub ID4 GTX costs 73.592,20, Model Y costs 62.170,- Of course you can not compare a ‚slow like a turd‘ ID4 Two Wheel Drive with the Model Y. You may compare it with the Ioniq5 or EV6 2WD Models. They cost about the same. And even the 2WD slow poke costs with the same feature set as the Model Y 70.608,80 Euros. Or do you for real, honestly, compare a 128kW car with a 378kW car? You would only lie to yourself. But if that is what you want please go ahead! Every electric car is a good car.

@mikafiltenborg7572 Жыл бұрын

I Agree 100 %!

@williamcampbell435 Жыл бұрын

This make no sense. You are comparing a model Y performance with a slow ID.4. You should have bought the base Model Y and spend the same money or less and have a TESLA. You are crazy????

@stefan2796 Жыл бұрын

Prefer Tesla Model Y. The whole ID serie is way too expensive, has software issues, poor battery management, etc. VW ist kaput...

@samjam6989 Жыл бұрын

VW probablynhas the worst software engineers in the car world. These guys should just hire google and apple software engineers or let apple or google do the software part of the car

@RT-zg9qi Жыл бұрын

ID.4 software is awful. Tesla all the way.

@savedby_grace6110 9 ай бұрын

Hyperbole..It isn't as bad as people say. They updates the software:)

@yellowsnowman9157 Жыл бұрын

Most people use Android Auto or Carplay so the UI and software are a bit irrelevant. EVs are all 20k too expensive and still destroy the earth.

@alohaduck3530 Жыл бұрын

Should have went with the KIA EV6. Far better EV all around. The ID4 lacks in so many areas even aside to the software disaster. As always to each their own, but a VW EV like an ID4 would not even be on the short list of something I would recommend to someone. I'd actually feel guilty. There are far better options out there.

@savedby_grace6110 9 ай бұрын

I love mine- zero complaints! 😂