No video
Here's Why People "WASTE" Money On The Jaguar CD
Рет қаралды 29,113
Күн бұрынWhat's tempting gamers to spend rent-level money on the Jaguar CD? Find out here.
The TRUTH About The Atari Jaguar No One Tells You: ➡️ • The TRUTH About The At... ➡️
❤️ If this video has been helpful, leave a Super Thanks by the video to support the channel!
📱 Official Website! ➡️ www.forever8bit...
🔔 Subscribe for more videos just like this one:
➡️ / @forever8bit
⚠️ 𝐃𝐈𝐒𝐂𝐋𝐎𝐒𝐔𝐑𝐄 ⚠️
I often review or link to products & services I regularly use and think you might find helpful. Wherever possible I use referral links, which means if you click one of the links in this video or description and make a purchase I may receive a small commission or other compensation.
I'm a big fan of Amazon, and many of my links to products/gear are links to those products on Amazon. I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for me to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and related sites.
--
#forever8bit
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The TRUTH About The Atari Jaguar No One Tells You: ➡ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5h1q5l-nty2qXk.html➡
@guillermovelasco103 Жыл бұрын
ALOT of people got into collecting because of KZfaqrs like AVGN and Pat the Nes Punk. The downside is that they also created the "Shelf Collector". Those that buy expensive collectibles to sit in a closet or shelf, never to be played ever. It's a kind of status symbol. I personally would love to fire up a Jag CD and experience the games as it was meant to be.
@Ratpackapunch Жыл бұрын
I play them all as often as I can ok, I'm working they are not free
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. Like collecting art, but you could actually be interacting with it instead. :)
@Milkiy-Hazard Жыл бұрын
They collect shelf's?
@andrewsprague8444 Жыл бұрын
Real collectors roll through and play and roll through as much as possible. There are so many games ever released that nobody could play all them. When you’re someone like me who’s collected before it became a cool thing i see both sides. They’re also rare and finding a working one isnt a easy thing. I would suggest keep hitting the yard sales and flea markets maybe you’ll get lucky some day.
@Salamander407 Жыл бұрын
Well said, I played most of these games and they stunk. At the end of its life cycle KB Toys couldn't give this stuff away. Now people are spending this much for this, a lot of disposable income going around. You're right it would just sit on the shelf never to be played. All the stuff is rare now, because no one had interests of it back then due to the great games on Genesis and Nintendo. Now most of this garbage is collectible, smh.
@CAPCOM784 Жыл бұрын
Too many think all retro related game/consoles are worth a lot money but in reality they're not. Since Wata started the market manipulation and false advertising of retro gaming has been nothing but hardship for people who love and cherish video game collecting. This is why you should never get your games graded.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I don't have any graded games. I do have few still sealed in original shrink, but I buy games to actually play them. Nothing against collecting NIB, it makes sense for those that enjoy it.
@Zobeid 10 ай бұрын
I had one of these. I used the VLM (music visualizer), and I had two games for it: Myst and Battlemorph. That might sound like failure, but I liked that VLM, and I liked Myst (which I hadn't got chance to play before on other systems), and I thought Battlemorph was hot stuff. So, I can't say that I regretted having it. One subtle point that I think a lot of people miss about the Jaguar system is that it didn't have many Japanese games, at a time when the business was dominated by Japanese hardware and software. Most of the Jaguar catalog grew out of the European Atari-and-Amiga computer scenes and brought a different style. I mean, there was a lot less cutesy run-and-jump stuff, for example. So even though the catalog was small by the numbers, I liked the style of games.
@ChuckieV79 5 ай бұрын
I wish Jeff Minter would port that VLM as a stand alone program to modern consoles. I remember back in the day just staring at the Microsoft Media Player visualisations jamming out to my favorite tunes for hours.
@Kevin_40 Жыл бұрын
its unbelievable people are paying a grand for jag cd systems still. back in 2002 on ebay i got a jag with jag cd and tons of games for 150 bucks. how about in the late 90s or like 1997 kaybee and other stores were liquidating jag stuff. systems were like 50 bucks including jag cd and games were like 5 or 10 bucks each
@Larry Жыл бұрын
Most excellent video SIr, I worked in an EB Games during the launch of the PS1 and we had an entire wall of Jaguar CD's, nobody wanted them. (Kicking myself I never got one there in hindsight) But by total luck I managed to get hold of a development console Jag CD off eBay a few years ago super cheap. But in all honesty, if you want one just to play games on, you're better off just getting the flash cart for the Jaguar, as it can run Jag CD games on it without the CD player attached.
@jamesburchill7522 Жыл бұрын
Oh weird? Is that a fact? Thanks man.
@Larry Жыл бұрын
@@jamesburchill7522 yeah, cheaper and more reliable in the long run. the CD drive is just a cd drive, no extra chips to make games more powerful unfortunately.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I know EB Games well. Great stores, glad you got to be a part of working there. I was a store manager for Babbage's, which was usually either upstairs or downstairs in the mall from EB. Great times!
@derekdash2179 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had two Jag CD units and they both worked fine. I love mine. The audio CD VLM is also worth mentioning. It was unique at the time.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I think that VLM was made by none other than Jeff Minter of T2K fame, no less. That is some great stuff!
@AnthonyRiddle Жыл бұрын
Ice always wondered what the Jaguar was truly capable of. There was so much untapped potential in that console that we never got to experience. This and the 3DO's lives were cut short without us ever getting to see what they really could do when developers were able to max out the hardware
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
No doubt. Thank goodness there's a robust group of homebrew programmers out there helping the Jag along today. If we'd had that knowledge back in the day, the Jag would have been legendary.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit Eclipse with Iron Soldier 2,Rebellion with Skyhammer, ATD with Battlemorph, plus others with likes of Battlesphere, pushed the system hard. Engines could be optimised further, no doubt, so improved frame rates, resolutions etc, but it still wouldn't really match the best first wave PlayStation and Saturn titles, it wasn't designed to do so, it was meant to take on SNES SFX, Genesis SVP and 3DO games.
@AdmiralBison 8 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for emulation and homebrew scene. Gaming history needs to be preserved and generations are able to experience it easily. BigPEmu emulator can run Jaguar CD games very well.
@williamRRR Жыл бұрын
Same reason people want the n64 DD shelf candy/bragging rights.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Like fint art on the wall, but you can play games with it. :)
@SuperNicktendo Жыл бұрын
Jaguar collecting has gotten bizarre. Used to be able to find a console with at least cybermorph and one controller for $100. I don't know why people would bother with a jaguar cd. The game drive by retrohq can do cd drive emulation without the unit. The cd drive didn't do anything special like the Sega cd or Turbo Grafx CD. It's just a drive that should have been built into the Jaguar from the start.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Having it built in would have absolutely changed the fortunes of Atari. It could have made the Jaguar a real challenger to the Saturn and PS1.
@EWOODJ Жыл бұрын
The novelty of authenticity.
@rgm4646 Жыл бұрын
Its weird isnt it!? Most older consoles are over priced on sites like ebay. I think I like it before everyone got into videogames :)
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
I remember Kay bee toys being PACKED with Jaguar stuff. Systems for $40 and games 5-10. Still not one bite
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine going there today and finding them? It's be a buy bonanza. :)
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit I swear I remember the CD drive and games being in the mix for like $60 but now I wonder seeing there were only 20k made or so. I was at the age to make fun of instead of taking advantage.
@booanderson7878 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember seeing them 2
@FULLNinja69 Жыл бұрын
For me the reason I still have mine is the VLM. Using the backdoor keys so you can program your own effects and its still fun. If you have 3 friends over and an Xbox 360 the VLM in there will let all 4 of you to control different aspects of the effects in real time. It's really fun when you learn to work together truly getting the most out of the VLM and the experience.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The VLM is awesome! Made by Jeff Minter of T2K fame, no less.
@FULLNinja69 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit can't wait for the documentary Heart of Neon
@chackokhan Жыл бұрын
Albeit harder to find, Iron Soldier 2 is also on cartridge form as well.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Sure enough! A great game on both cart and CD.
@Cueya Жыл бұрын
Got that 🚽 shape
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why the Nerd dumped there. 🤣
@Cueya Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit hahaha yep, this poor system, that's how most people found out about it 🤣
@ViciousAlienKlown Жыл бұрын
I had a Jaguar with the CD attachment. Right out of the box it had video signal problems. The base unit is rather tough though like most cartridge systems. Battlemorph was actually fun.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Wow. What a mess. Yes, Battlemorph is really cool.
@ViciousAlienKlown Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit Highlander was a terrible game though.
@georgeborders9686 Жыл бұрын
There must be a bunch of these somewhere, I worked at Wal Mart in 2000 and they had about 50 Jag CD's that eventually got shipped out somewhere. They were not marked down at all or else I would have one.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Oh, to have access to them in today's market. :)
@LiveTUNA Жыл бұрын
I bought my Jaguar CD from KB toys in the mall when it first came out. Cyber Morph was one of my favorite games. I played it so much. The Jaguar was the first console I ever bought on my own that my parents didn't buy and I owned it until 2009 when I sold it on eBay for $86. I wish I would have never sold it but my girlfriend at the time was selling all of her old systems save for whatever reason I wanted her to like me more by selling mine with hers? Idk, dumb decisions guys make for women's attention 😂🤣
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
As long as you enjoyed her companionship at that time, or even now, it was worth it. In the end, it's just stuff. People are irreplaceable, and so are their memories.
@LiveTUNA Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit we broke up soon after that 😂🤣. But it's ok. I'm not even bothered by it.
@catsaregovernmentspies Жыл бұрын
I gave away my cat because the girl I liked hated cats. She lasted 2 weeks but my cat was gone forever. 😢 Lesson learned.
@stevew8513 Жыл бұрын
I'll have to take your word for Iron Soldier II. My copy always froze at the weapons selection screen. The Electronics Boutique also got in Breakout 2000 at the same time, I wish I'd bought that instead. I ordered my Jaguar CD directly from Atari, and it was dead on arrival. The drive wouldn't spin, it looked to have gotten crushed down at some point. I arranged to ship it back, sent it off, and got back... a Jaguar console. Not one in the box or anything, a bare Jaguar console. So I had to send that back and finally get another Jag CD. For me, it was all worth it... for Battlemorph. Still to this day, my favorite game soundtrack.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Wow! That sounds like 2023-level shipping shenanigans right there. I guess things really don't change after all. 🤣 Glad you got a proper working CD and still enjoy it!
@Kevin_40 Жыл бұрын
200 dollar game drive plays all jag cd games but a lot of people dont know this. im seeing jag cd system coming down in price lately from 1000 to more like 600 or 700 now. 10 years ago they were selling for 200 bucks.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I love that the GameDrive exists. It's the best way to play the entire library, and the incredible homebrews and ports, all in one place.
@ultraspinalki11 Жыл бұрын
Does the Gamedrive require the CD addon? Or does it give access to the whole library without the need for the addon?
@Kevin_40 Жыл бұрын
@@ultraspinalki11 gamedrive does not require cd add on it will play jag cd roms the whole library as long as you use highest quality big capacity micro sd card.
@ultraspinalki11 Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_40 thanks for the clarification!
@chrischris7554 Жыл бұрын
You cant play all cd games..You cant play vid grid-hover strike 2 and world tour racing
@mng519 10 ай бұрын
I love it when people recreate electronics boutique style store displays with their collections! So cool!
@acem7749 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the super fancy light machine fx for music CDs..
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Agreed! That visualizer was, I believe, created by the same Jeff Minter that made T2K for the Jag. No wonder it's so great!
@acem7749 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit yes from what I remember.
@Gaming-Enthusiast Жыл бұрын
I bought mine new in 1994 and still have my jag cd that still works great
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Sweet! It's great that it's still 100%. Good care of them, and so many other things, makes for decades of service life, which is awesome.
@hjames78 Жыл бұрын
If you still didnt have it now it would of been a waste.....
@TheInfectiousCadaver Жыл бұрын
idk i still feel like a lot of people just buy it for the "shelf status" "yeah ive heard of it, i watched AVGN when i was 12" what a weird market to be in.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I like that term - "shelf status". Somehow, I hadn't heard it before in all these mad years. Well said.
@MrFrog_ Жыл бұрын
I just bought an Atari Lynx but at least that was a decent Atari product at the time 🤣
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I love the Lynx. There are some real bangers in the library, especially with the arcade conversions like S.T.U.N. Runner and Xybots.
@mrbadsound Жыл бұрын
Blue lightning, even though I'm too young to have had a chance to play, was my chopper attack(n64)
@fossil-bit8439 Жыл бұрын
I would say it’s mostly a waste of money. But….could be a great opening for the home brew scene for some stellar games. The downside to that is, the base Jaguar console is already rare and you’d be limiting yourself to making games for the very small amount of the CD add-on owners when you could just make the game for the regular console.
@lstairvideos1330 Жыл бұрын
now that BigPEmu is trying to emulate jaguar CD we wont have to!
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
It's a noble project by a great guy. I would love to see BigP get CD support. I'm one of his Patrons and will gladly keep suporting his endeavors.
@AdmiralBison 8 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for emulation. Atari Jaguar CD has recently been successfully emulated with the excellent 'BigPEmu' emulator. Now everyone can experience a piece of gaming history.
@Sinn0100 Жыл бұрын
Did you know that Iron Soldier 2 was also made in cart format? It is the same game as the CD version minus the FMV sequences. Addendum- I'm a 5th generation collector that thinks nothing of dropping 700 bucks on a single game. However, I just don't see a need for this thing. We have a Jaguar and most of the best/rarest games for it...I just don't see it.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. It's a pricey luxury... as long as it's a working one. :)
@DevilMaster 8 ай бұрын
The latest version of BigPEmu emulates the Jaguar CD. To me, this means I can finally experience its games, and it drove my interest in getting actual hardware down to zero.
@stephens4175 Жыл бұрын
I had the jag and the cd rom component, got them both brand new but my cd rom never worked from brand new, love avp though played that one to death, wish I never got rid of them though
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Wow! That would have been a 1-2 knockout punch back in the day. Did you ever have to go through Atri for warranty claims on the Jag CD?
@stephens4175 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit no
@alphawoolf5981 Жыл бұрын
Wow $1000? I got mine for $90 in 1996. BattleMorph and Jag CD Music player by Jeff Minter are worth it for me.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
That was a steal by today's retro game economy! Nice score!
@Vvewa Жыл бұрын
Definitely a collectors piece as it's the real Atari's last hardware in 1995 (That flashback stuff doesn't count imo)
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The swan song of the original company. Also agree that the flashbacks don't count in that way.
@gamingguy9006 Жыл бұрын
Nor does the VCS count
@TheLegendOf43 Жыл бұрын
The library was basically nil, which tells me people have more money than they have sense. The one thing that did interest me on it was Highlander.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the original film. Along with the game, were you also into the animated series?
@TheLegendOf43 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit I loved the movies. The Jag CD game looked way ahead of its time. Its a shame the Jag didnt start its life as a CD based console. I think it's possible that it wouldve had a little more longevity.
@thefifthdoctor6780 Жыл бұрын
I love my Jaguar cd games and play it whenever I can.
@googleuser3163 Жыл бұрын
I've owned 2 of these and sold another 3 at my store. Never had one that didn't work so I'm inclined to think the alleged fragility is fallacious, more likely people weren't cleaning the connector. The one issue that I did come across was the spindle sitting a little too high causing the spinning disc to graze the inside lip of the lid. This was easily fixed tho.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Cool! I remember Best Electronics posting guidance about using the CD unit to prevent problems. Covered things like letting the disc stop spinning before opening the door and removing it, closing the lid at the proper push point, etc. They said most of the repair requests they received were for things like that.
@MegaTerryNutkins Жыл бұрын
It was popular with homebrew developers as it could be easily made to boot unencrypted software, essentially a makeshift devkit. That's what pushed prices up in the early days before the collecting boom.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Great point! There are some really cool homebrew games out there for the CD add-on.
@FanofRvB 6 ай бұрын
I finally got mine today, and was all too excited to boot it up. Definitely want to get its full game library to enjoy.
@mandosmanta Жыл бұрын
Is a waste of money.. especially now that the Jag Drive is out.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
GameDrive is slick, isn't it? Not just Jag games and CD games but homebrew too. So much great happening around the Jag these days.
@LJW1912 Жыл бұрын
I bought my Jaguar CD eight years ago, for the princely sum of £300. It came with Battlemorph, Myst, Hover Strike: Unconquered Lands and Baldies all boxed with manuals, overlays etc., as well as Vidgrid, Blue Lighting and the T2K soundtrack. I thought I was mad at the time, but prices being the way they are I think it was the perfect moment to get it! An absolute steal now
@briteboy6131 Жыл бұрын
Waste of money unless you're actively working on reverse engineering it or something like that
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Ironically enough, that's exactly what the creator of the BigPEmu is doing - reverse engineering and working on 100% perfect emulation for future updates of BigP. That would be sweet!
@LukeDodge916 Жыл бұрын
I would've loved to collect the Jag/CD if the price was thrift store cheap. I kinda wanted one when they were new, but I saw this system for what it was even in the 90s. But there's really not a single game other than Doom and that Superbike racing game that I would want to play... I really wanted this system to succeed once upon time.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I get that. Yeah, it's a small library of titles. At least the homebrew community is doing what it can to put out some new content to help it out.
@crazyjimheath Жыл бұрын
Honestly a couple of these systems had potential and fumbled it!! Genesis and SNES were still mainstays . Jag CD came out almost the same time as PS1and some people /kids would hold off a year or 2 on PS1 to let prices settle and game library build !!! PS1/ N64 had to finish off the old generation . GENESIS from 1989 and SNES 1991 WERE still highly popular up until 1996-97 .
@jordantheproducer9284 9 ай бұрын
I walked into Electronic Boutique and bought my Jag CD when it released... no pre order
@originalbadboy32 Жыл бұрын
Glad I bought my mint CD unit about 10 years for £50.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
That was a straight up legit bargain! Well done!
@jaygooese4242 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year's Eve forever 8- b i t
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Same to you! Hope it was a great day and a great year ahead.
@jaygooese4242 Жыл бұрын
I love that game 4:30
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Agreed. BD13 is uniquely cool and must more fluid that the usual FMB game.
@nonamenola33 Жыл бұрын
I bought it at launch. Still have it somewhere in the basement. No, I won't sell it. :) Me and a friend solved Myst, I think that's the only extra game I have.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
That's cool. I think the memories we have of playing with friends far outweigh the materialism or shelf bragging rights of system ownership. Kudos for holding on to those memories for the decades that have passed since. No one can take them away.
@nonamenola33 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit Thanks man! Another cool thing with the Jaguar CD was the VLM (hm, was there actually any other cool thing with it?). Anyway, at the time I had another friend who was into laser discs and he had a projector so I took the Jaguar over to him and we hooked it into the projector and played CDs. That was pretty cool, 100 inch VLM. 😁
@gametourny4ever627 Жыл бұрын
I picked one of these up earlier this year CIB for around 7 hundred or something. I really like what I have for it currently and hope to get more games over time. It is also cool seeing some of the aftermarket games that have released for it. Also, worth mentioning, playing cds on it and watching the kaleidoscope of colors and effects is pretty neat.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I agree. Notice how the title says "WASTE" in quites? That's 'cause I think it's entirely a subjective term. There's no a drop of "WASTE" if you buy one, play it, and love it. It's only a "WASTE" if you never really liked it in the first place. Heck, people pay that kind of money for scalped systems on the regurlar.
@vincentpistoia9034 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations you wasted your money
@gametourny4ever627 Жыл бұрын
@@vincentpistoia9034 I have been getting enjoyment out of mine so I don’t feel like I wasted it.
@MrBroken030 Жыл бұрын
What a trash system, only a true Atari fan could love it :D
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
It's for the hardcore fan, for sure, especially at today's pricing. I went to a retro store in Columbia, SC over the summer. They said they used to ask $50 for Jaguars a few years ago - and couldn't sell them. My, how the times have changed.
@lwwells 7 ай бұрын
I can’t think of anything on the Jaguar that I’d like to play. I’m even surprised I watched this video. After watching it, I stand by my original statement. [goes back to collecting Neo Geo]
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Ай бұрын
Wise choice
@ez054098 11 ай бұрын
You forgot Protector SE. I know it was a later release, but it is an amazing Defender clone.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Ай бұрын
Far better than Defender 2000
@morbital Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a 64DD
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting system, that 64DD!
@javiles2331 Жыл бұрын
Waste of money, but something for the gaming history.
@crazyjimheath Жыл бұрын
cool video . 11 original games after the ported cart games WOW . i mean at least Turbo Duo and Sega Cd put out some games .. imagine buying a Phillips CDI or JAGUAR CD and only having a few games to buy and many of them are video or cartoon animation . The flying game looked like it had great graphics ON THE INTRO SCENES .. but game graphics seemed just short of early PS1 graphics , not to be negative but SOME of those companies really MILKED customers with these HIGH Potential systems that SEEMED to NOT deliver throughout the 90's .. very ambitious systems but they all lack cool games or sense of anything .. it was all chasing the next fad and either animation based or video animation trash .. great video on selling this terrible library as palpable !! love these type of vids ..
@notthehelper6289 Жыл бұрын
One word - Scarcity.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Yes, there's something compelling about getting/having something rare. My local retro game store recently had a boxed Game.com system - for like $400. Could get a lot of better systems for much less. But rarity drove the value.
@kranibal Жыл бұрын
Another peripheral I’m glad got produced. It could’ve been canned easily. I do not own one but I will try those CD games on my Jaguar GD.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The GameDrive is slick. That's a great thing to have with your Jag! And adds in the ability to play homebrew and ports on real hardware. Too cool!
@RalphBarbagallo Жыл бұрын
Wow, I sold mine like 4 years ago for a quarter of that amount. It also didn't work, however.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I get that. I've bought and sold systems in that same way over the years, as many collectors and gamers do. And I've missed some of them and bought replacements back again. Keeps things fresh.
@curtissmith8152 Жыл бұрын
I bought my Jag CD back in the 1990's and the performance was terrible. Load times, freezes, and not loading. Brain 13 barely worked for a scene or two. Hover Strike was a port. Primal Rage nevr let you play more then a fight or two before crashing. So, once I back my video game stuff back last year, I got rid of the CD player. I sold it loose and untested and shaved down the price down even more out of Mercy. I finally got my Jag up and working and I have no regret dumping my Jag for a low bid. Avoid it.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the CD add-on can be... fickle. Glad you have the setup that works for your gaming.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Жыл бұрын
Cybermorph divided critics at the time, seemed to fare far better overall with the UK press.
@edhorse13 Жыл бұрын
I want one just so I can say 'Lets play some Jag'
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I like your thinking! :)
@JimGryp Жыл бұрын
I still have mine since the 90s and it works till now. The only game I owned was Myst but I loved it, a true masterpiece! I also love the music player the system has. I used to listen music for hours on it just to enjoy those awesome graphics following the rythm
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
That music visualizer is really cool. Made by Jeff Minter of T2K fame, no less. :)
@webofhair Жыл бұрын
And I think I passed on this for $50 brand new
@xordak Жыл бұрын
Where did they learn to make games?
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The same place they learned how to fly. :)
@orlandoturbo6431 Жыл бұрын
Just port some arcade games for the Jaguar and call it a day.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The homebrew scene out there has some that weren't part of the original 13. Gorf, Star Wars, and more. Great stuff.
@iwanttocomplain 3 ай бұрын
My idea for the racing game chequered flag and F1 Racer should have been is to lower the graphical detail to not use textures and concentrate on 60fps with as few drops as you can manage. Use the rare Tempest style graphic mode to build a 3D engine with speed and precise collision detection with a refined physics engine at the expense of textures or gourad shading. Hire Geoff Minter to code with aid from Geoff Crammond to build a Crammond racing game entry which would suggest the system was better suited for simple 3D with tight game play and controls.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Ай бұрын
Rebellion had never done any Racing Games, were clueless on how to implement decent driving controls and it was the coders first ever game 😂😂
@iwanttocomplain Ай бұрын
@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 I bet that's all wrong.
@PixelPusher1 Жыл бұрын
Blue Lightning looks like a reskinned Total Eclipse
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Interesting observation. They do kind of have a similar style, don't they?
@hjames78 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot of people buy or even bought that thing
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Best sales numbers I could find was a single shipment from Atari of about 20,000 units.
@MrGageHarrison Жыл бұрын
You’re from Wv? Great to see other people from here
@CasperEgas Жыл бұрын
I have had one for many years. I probably paid about 150€ at the time. Never had any defects. Have all the games for it. Like Battle Morph, World Tour Racing and Vid Grid best. Dragon's Lair doesn't work on the PAL system.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Nice! All the games for it? that's actually an accomplishment, in spite of the small library. Well done.
@CasperEgas Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit thank you.
@RubsterWTF Жыл бұрын
Waste of time and money. There are so many great games out there and yet people choose to waste their money on systems and games like this. I will never understand collectors...
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I get that. I think, maybe, games are a lot like music and movies. Kind of polarizing stuff that you either love or don't.
@ThePbrook1967 23 күн бұрын
I love mine! Sure it could've put out more better games but they are making homebrews!
@marklechman2225 Жыл бұрын
Great show. You've earned my sub.👍
@cheapmovies25 Жыл бұрын
All these consoles and all the libraries of each one it worth getting for content lol... At the end of the day all those games were made for a few collector libraries lol
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of fun to be had in these games, for sure.
@JetScreamer_YT Жыл бұрын
Happy to have a Game Drive!
@umiami80 Жыл бұрын
I've had three of these things, all have worked fine.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Very cool. That's a testament to the care you put into ownership of your things, which is admirable. Many things considered "fragile" last a lifetime when properly cared for. If you've ever had a baby, you know what I mean. 🥲
@umiami80 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit Yes sir. I was lucky to get mine brand new after it died for $50 from EB Bargain bin, sold it got a used one that worked, and then I got another set with ANOTHER cd so I sold it for $450 back in 2015. I like the system it is so obscure.
@catoblepag Жыл бұрын
I've just discovered your channel and I really like this video, it's quality work. Still, I have a constructive criticism that's probably shared by other people: that random high pitch voice that you do grates on the ears... a lot (so much that I don't know if I can watch other stuff). It seems like you're goin' for some kind of journalistic voice, but it's unnatural and completely unnecessary: there's way too much excursion between the regular tone and the peaks.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being here and for your input! I do get what you mean. I think part of it is me and part of it is the mics/mixing. I'm working on getting better with both. Hang in there and I feel you'll hear ongoing improvements.
@catoblepag Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit Thank you for being a sport about it, I know it must be difficult to suddenly change your way of speaking but I'm sure it could help you get even more subscribers. ;) I'll hang in there, for sure (I've already watched the new NeoGeo video). Cheers!
@StormsparkPegasus Жыл бұрын
To an extent I understand the collector mindset. But for my personally...if I wanted to play these games, I'd just emulate them.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I ge that. I think part of the draw to the CD add-on has been the challenges of accurately emulating the games. I think Virtual Jaguar has done some of them, and the newly released BigPEmu is working to add in 100% compatibility with the CD games. now THAT woudl be cool!
@StormsparkPegasus Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit The main problem with the Jaguar CD is how hard it is to find one that even works. The build quality was very bad.
@AnalyticalReckoner Жыл бұрын
It gets even better when you can emulate from the cloud. I am still a collector but it gets hard to justify a purchase when I can conjure my console in any browser. It's even harder when you start to get into the fantastic world of randomizers, bug-fix patches, and re-translations.
@waterheart95 Жыл бұрын
This system got wrecked by atari’s poor planning of the base architecture and lack of quality titles, which if everything worked right it be only sightly worse than 3do in 3d rendering in and a bit faster in 2d rendering. They should’ve went with the panther in 1991. The Jag cd was pretty useless add-on especially compared to the competition especially in that 95-96, which were cheaper and had better looking and playing software especially from Nintendo, Sega, Panasonic, and Sony.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The Panther would have been cool. We might still be calling new Atari consoles feline names today. :)
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
What can the Panther do what others can’t? Can it do mode-7 like the SNES? FMV like the CDi?
@waterheart95 Жыл бұрын
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt It would've been a sprite and sound master. -16 mhz 68000 - 32 channel Ensoniq sound chip - A bug fixed Flarie 1 design (basically the jaguar 2d capability but faster and more complete, 3d capabilities non existed)
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
@@waterheart95 so is there a sound channel limit on the Jaguar ? I still hate the design of the SID and don’t want any Ensoniq. OP on the Jaguar got improvements after the prototype chips. Still has bugs according to the manual. The scaling is sub par blitter ( okay, a little faster ). Why should I believe that it Flare would have had working hardware years earlier?
@waterheart95 Жыл бұрын
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt The Jaguar sound chip is the jerry chip, which makes the sound in games limited by the cpu. It basically has the same issue that GBA has with the sound taking up cpu resources. Flare did successfully complete hardware for other companies and ventures beforehand. The designs were ready to manufacture and were prototyped also. Heck software was tested also.
@Psaurus81 Жыл бұрын
I still haven't forgiven myself for getting rid of mine, along with two controllers and a bunch of games, for enough money to buy two Dreamcast games.
@Shinobi33 7 ай бұрын
Nowhere near worth a grand. A nice little oddity but no. A backwards compatible 60GB PS3 is worth it and it's half this.
@RedLP5000S Жыл бұрын
I was so disappointed with the Atari Jaguar. I'm glad I sold it soon after I purchased it at launch. 👎🏻
@alaeriia01 Жыл бұрын
9:07 wait, since when is Myst difficult? Aside from the maze-runner, everything in the game is super easy. You want challenge, you play Riven.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Props to you for crushing it on Myst!
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Highlander was not finished. They got it to run and that’s that
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
And unlike 2023, they couldn't just drop it out there unfinished and patch it later. 🤣
@John-nb6ep 4 ай бұрын
Did it release in Europe?
@octoman_games Жыл бұрын
noone seems to get the CD to work lol
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
The best term I've for describing it is "fragile", Not so much unreliable, as it can run well when treated well. But bang it around a bit and it's a goner.
@bruceleggett568 Жыл бұрын
Ther jag was terrible in every way.
@jeffrielly Жыл бұрын
Cybermorph??? WHRE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY???
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
More like, "Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly? Where did you learn to fly?" 🤣
@jh5124 Жыл бұрын
There was a bunch of misinformation in that one.
@nostalgic7821 Жыл бұрын
What county in wv you from?
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I'm actually in Summerville, SC. I don't think I've even driven through WV. Been to VA a handful of times though.
@nostalgic7821 Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit either way awesome vids keep up the content
@seblav9386 6 ай бұрын
I don't know people who will buy at high prices. They pass most of their money on alcohol and dope hehehe. It's difficult to sell games even at low prices. I tried to sell 300 games, all for 70$ "I wait in case he will sell at a lower price." It's useless 😂
@johnhawthorne4716 3 ай бұрын
The jag is a fine looking console And the ths CD is like Bottox
@jaygooese4242 Жыл бұрын
Goodie
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
What he said.
@chrisgotthat2435 Жыл бұрын
Total garbage add on to a totally garbage console🤣
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Don't mince words, Bones. What do you really think? 🤣
@unrealdevon Жыл бұрын
Waste of money.
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not for everyone.
@mrmaxaxl Жыл бұрын
Meh.
@Zhejiangopterus Жыл бұрын
please hire someone else to do your voiceovers
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
Funny you mention it. I've been trying to get Morgan Freeman to do them for years now. No luck.
@MD-fu6ly Жыл бұрын
@@Forever8Bit your voiceovers are fine!
@katieblackmore2004 Жыл бұрын
Because humans are ridiculous.... The people that moan about the state of gaming today, also go out and spend ridiculous money on consoles of yesteryear that people look upon with rose tinted glasses. Genuinely, you try and play any game on any console made between 88 to the early 00's... And it is a horrible experience.
@paulymc Жыл бұрын
What utter nonsense......
@Forever8Bit Жыл бұрын
I get that. The early days of 3D gaming are polarizing and each person has their own valid thoughts about how they enjoy it - or don't. And that's ok.
@TheJacklikesvideos Жыл бұрын
Spoken like someone who doesn't remember the world before 9/11/01. If you actually tried the video games played in the 90's as a kid with the expectations of the time, you would see the value in what you consider jank. Metroid "didn't age well," but try explaining to a seven year old that the select button is more fun than physically mapping out an alien planet.
@greggrsham-ri8sh Жыл бұрын
Because it's a little different than the other consoles and Exorbitant prices
@bigshorty4855 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a system not worth owning. Not back then, not now. Only buy it if you can find it cheap so you can sell it for profit. Terrible games on the system.
Дима Масленников
Рет қаралды 9 МЛН