Here's Why You NEVER Use NATURAL Color in GOPRO Hero 10 Black!!

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Here's Why You Should NEVER Use NATURAL Color in GOPRO Hero 10 Black!! Never EVER Use NATURAL or VIBRANT Color in GoPro Hero 10 Black!
#GoProHero10Black #GoProColor #GoProFlatColor
In this video I test the GoPro Hero 10 Black and it's three color profiles. In particular I'm testing the Flat color vs Natural and Vibrant. In my testing I've found that I really dislike both the Natural and Vibrant colors. The Flat color profile, on the other hand, is good. It retains a lot of the shadow and highlight detail that the other two give up. I think the 'flat' profile is the real 'natural' profile. What say you?
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@dbsranchr Жыл бұрын

Game changing info. I was skeptical at first, but now flat with medium resolution is now my go to setup. Thanks!!!!

@fillup901 2 жыл бұрын

great video my friend! it helps so much as im looking for a vlogging camera for my hiking channel

@deepseasearch 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video. This was very useful information!

@MulhavenBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful info, I was wondering why the heck the shadow in some of my clips was so dang dark. Been using so called "natural" all along. I'll be switching to flat and testing that now. Thanks for this video 😊

@Andy.Garcia Жыл бұрын

GREAT video. Thanks for this. I was wondering why my shots were so contrasty in natural. Now it makes sense! But I do want to try flat with a WB fixed at 5500 tomorrow…..

@A-V Жыл бұрын

On the HERO 9 Black that I have, there's only Flat & GoPro Color (default). I too found my videos - which include lots of dimly lit scenes with shadows - were coming out looking terrible using the default GoPro Color setting. It was only last week that I switched to Flat & the quality of my videos is significantly improved. I also have a HERO 4 Black which, I think, is also set to the default GoPro Color setting - but the footage I film with that in the same dim shadowy scenes never looked as terrible as that filmed withe the HERO 9. Great video - thanks for putting it out here!

@1st508thAirborne 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks!

@15LoydsCustom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video bro!

@stephanepedreny2637 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for this useful video. The "natural" mode has made a lot of my footage nearly unusable due to oversaturation. Just a quick question : When shooting in flat mode, do you think I can use the flat profile without touching other settings in the camera or do you recommend to adjust white balance? I really think the flat profile looks a world better and way more natural, but my only concern is the amount of work in post production? Thanks for your opinion. Best, Stephane

@spgvideo Жыл бұрын

Pretty nutty! Thanks for the vid 😎

@user-bb8yn4yo6d 10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the informative video. I recently picked up a Hero 10 black, and set the color profile to NATURAL because that is what most recommend(ed). After watching this, I intend to re-record the footage in FLAT. VIBRANT was never a consideration. Using curves, you can always add contrast to a scene, but removing it isn't so easy. I don't understand why people don't use a custom WB setting. Shoot in AUTO, and apply the custom setting in Premiere Pro or you program of choice. It's so easy, and produces the best results. I have always used a customs WB when shooting stills. Thanks again.

@RPP2023 10 ай бұрын

Just tested this on the Hero 11 and you pretty much nailed it. I watched your video about sharpness too and yeah, out of the box medium sharpness flat color is a clear winner.

@GreenRunningLama Жыл бұрын

good video brother - regards from UK - apprecaite it

@julianne8645 2 жыл бұрын

At the start of the video, I was like nah, natural is the one for me, I get halfway through and wow yes defo flat is so much better, thanks for pointing this out, great video.

@GeneralExpert 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the vid!!👍

@AuTheExplorer1129 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing,now i know why. keep on sharing bro

@MAURITS_METERSMAKER 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Some useful examples there. Since the Hero 5 I have been using the flat color profile. It is obvious that it gives you more room to play with the contrast and shadows. The one thing I have been struggling with is getting the skin color correct. With the Hero 7 everything looked great. On the Hero 8, 9 and 10 there is a distinct yellow color cast. That is with setting the white balance manually. You can overcome this by setting the value 500 Kelvin lower than it should be, but it is still not great. It never occurred to me that the auto white balance actually results in better skin colors. Maybe it is something to check out in another video. The color is the main problem with the Hero 10 (and 8 & 9). Exposure and clarity of the Hero 10 are totally amazing. Greetings from the Netherlands.

@hasp24 6 ай бұрын

He does talk about using auto white balance and auto shutter in this video when using flat color.

@MarksGoneWalking Жыл бұрын

Nice one Jimmy 😂 just changed to flat - I’ll give it a go! Liked and subscribed. ATB Mark.

@samratsingh_rajput Жыл бұрын

Tnq bro 🤗 This is vary helpfull video Thank you so much ❤️

@Viederny 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@meljenkins1016 2 жыл бұрын

I have the GoPro 10 and went ahead & got the Skyreat 1.33 Anamophic lens instead of the Max lens from GoPro also got the Inkee Falcon Plus stabilizer which was designed for the GoPro that has the Media Mod. You cannot record at 5.3K with the Max lens. However, you can record 5.3K with the Anamorphic lens. Big difference and yes FLAT IS BETTER !! Far more flexible during post production with Davinci Resolve Studio 17.

@PeterMossUkulele 2 жыл бұрын

Hi - Interesting video - It would have been nice to see the results setting the White balance and Shutter speed manually and then viewing the 3 picture profiles. Maybe the auto is having a detrimental effect on natural and vibrant?

@HariKristiyanto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reasons 👍

@mohdjoharichannel Жыл бұрын

I'm still learning how to set this gopro 10 color. Hope this your informative video can help me produce real and beautiful pictures from this gopro 10. From mjc Malaysia.

@jccanmotovlog Жыл бұрын

Wow thanks. Flat is a lot of better. Special when we vlogging inside of a car and then color corrections😅. Nice video

@scotthibbard5746 8 ай бұрын

Great video! Made me switch to Flat color profile.

@mikereynoldsguitar502 Жыл бұрын

I have a hero 5 and with being a photographer i always use the settings to suit the scene never leaving it on auto. I mostly set the WB using the kelvin scale and i use the + & - EV to suit the conditions in very bright sunny weather i often set it to - 2 EV to preserve the highlights. I always use the flat colour profile as this is akin to using RAW in a DSLR there is so much information that is retained that can be developed in an editor, I uise the free version of DaVinci resolve its amazing and is more than up to the job of producing great looking videos.

@SherdilPOV 2 жыл бұрын

So using flat with medium sharpness is the way to go? White balance auto? Shutter speed double the fps?

@ryanreedgibson Жыл бұрын

Wish I had found this video when I first bought my GoPro 10s. It took me three weeks and 300 hours to finally figure out what was going on. I always color correct all my footage using Davinci Resolve studio with a color panel. My main camera is a Blackmagic Cine 6k pro with 3 GoPros for B roll and POV. Another Protune setting for those who want more control, ADJUST THE SHARPNESS TO LOW! This will give you more flexibility in post to adjust the Mid/Detail.

@gaboaaa23 2 жыл бұрын

hi, ive used the flat profile and the shadows are so awefilly grainy. Why is that? Iso was set to 100

@sengsuethao2140 Жыл бұрын

Thanks I learned something from this video

@anandsankhe1 Жыл бұрын

For snorkelling, would you recommend Flat+AutoWhite Balance+Auto Shutter Speed?

@leandros_ab Жыл бұрын

How did you correct the white balance in the first examples? The pictures in flat look stunning there

@jean-roschprudencio930 2 жыл бұрын

So what colour profile should we use of we can't colour grade?

@OrelMoto88 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one video bro

@AlexCrews 2 жыл бұрын

What you just said makes a lot of sense because my skin looks orange when I’m recording video so thank you

@cainmh Жыл бұрын

Great video.

@jagdeepmaan1456 Жыл бұрын

Hi tell about this audio setup ?? Which mic you used with go Pro in this video

@apahualpa173 2 жыл бұрын

Why would you have to use auto white balance as you say at 3:38? Do you mean that if you want the usable footage right out of camera? Why woulnd't a specific white balance you set manually, deliver? If set correctly, that is ofc :)

@sanremosallymusictravel 2 жыл бұрын

Hallo my friend True, you are absolutely right. The flat color is the real natural color interesting video great shooting beautiful Big Big Like 😊🌴🇮🇹👍👍👍

@beerborn Жыл бұрын

I have the GoPro 10 & the Canon R5. I use "Flat" on the GoPro 10 & CLog 3 (Flat) on the Canon R5. Flat or CLog 3 are the best and I color grade my videos on Davinci Studio 18 by either using LUT's or just regular color grade.

@babyboy1971 3 ай бұрын

I notice on skin tones that the skin looks almost dirty or very over sharpened. Any ideas how to fix? Fiat?

@camexplora9742 2 жыл бұрын

If I’d seen this video earlier then I wouldn’t have sold my Hero 10. I’m preferring the flat profile, as natural is over sharpened and the shadows are crushed. Did you film at 5.3k? Also, please can you compare 4K with 5.3K with the flat colour profile on medium sharpness? I will make this judgement to reconsider purchasing the Hero 10 again. Thanks.

@leandros_ab Жыл бұрын

Buy a Hero 11 now

@markwornom1050 2 жыл бұрын

I do prefer Flat with a -.5 or -1 exposure comp to preserve highlights. I occasionally also use Natural for night Timelapse. As far as Auto WB, never will I use it again. If you're getting great results, awesome. For me, I set either 5000k or 5500k and go with that no matter what the weather is and it's always very close to what it needs to be. I do this with all of my cameras and it makes editing a lot easier.

@TheAdventureSpot 2 жыл бұрын

I just recently purchased a Hero 10 and will continue to use Flat. I also changed the setting to -0.5 EV. Do you normally use 5000k or 5500k more?

@markwornom1050 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAdventureSpot Hey! I prefer 5500K. If I could get more specific with it I would probably choose 5300K which to my eyes is very accurate on other cameras I have.

@Caminan2dr 2 жыл бұрын

buen video. justamente necesitaba una referencia ya que el otro dia gopro me arruino un video con tantas sombras y contrastes.

@elainejavellana3321 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@supdookie Жыл бұрын

What do you recommend in the dark?

@AJCoReTV Жыл бұрын

Anyway to correct natural back to flat ?? (After the fact)

@TaeTaeGo Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have to use flat! :)

@pietzaken2220 Жыл бұрын

The flat profile seem to be better. What i am not understanding though, is how you get such nice quality on youtube? after i export my gopro footages does not look very sharp, a bit blurry. Stil have a cbr of 100mpbs and h264 codec,

@edwardcullen3251 6 ай бұрын

This

@BahamaVision 2 жыл бұрын

You are my „Mr. Flat“ 😅 thank you for the detailed reasons choose „flat“ 🙋‍♂️👍

@lexilovespau 2 жыл бұрын

Flat 5+ sat 5+ contrast +3 shadow -2 blacks The I add an emulation with just small strength and I am good.

@dojo3175 Жыл бұрын

The only thing that matters to me is which GoPro version most accurately records what you are seeing. Unless you are trying to impress people who cares whether the color "looks good". When I look back one day at videos of hiking trips and vacations with my family it'd be nice to know it looks like it did that day. No one really focuses on that. You should, I would watch your channel just for that. My latest GoPro is a 9 and it is closer than earlier versions but still pretty much fails at capturing the color you are actually seeing. Does anyone know if the 10 or 11 actually do that?

@MrPavlov18 Жыл бұрын

FLAT COLOR+LEEMING LUT 👌

@retroonhisbikes 2 жыл бұрын

I use the vibrant colour as im not that good at colour grading, ive got an ipad for editing. Yet to find a good app. I’ll try flat tomorrow and colour grading

@sstefany 2 жыл бұрын

If your white balance is set to auto, I'd try just adding some saturation when using flat. You probably won't have to correct any colors, just add saturation. You'll have more dynamic range and more details using flat.

@arjay0490 2 жыл бұрын

Vibrant looked like you applied a shader from Fallout4. lol

@mindmanifestations2036 4 ай бұрын

Now that you’ve mentioned it I do think flat is more natural…. And even if I, doing action footage I want to make out what’s in the shadows however if I’m trying to simulate an lsd trip vibrant and natural will be there for me

@Thornwalker. 2 жыл бұрын

You have a point but never say never. There are situations where natural is the best & u can always tone down the contrast later.

@DSKILLS92 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent ☺️ describe

@AcasaInNatura Жыл бұрын

The Gopro "flat" profile is not that flat. It still has a lot of contrast and you don't have enough flexibility and also it doesn't compare with DJI's 'd-cinelike' profile which is way more flat and flexible.

@mariuszb4919 2 жыл бұрын

great video, thanks. I'm thinking about getting Gopro just can't decide if I should go for 9 or 10. I have heard a lot of bad stuff about GP10.

@TheMCEagles 2 жыл бұрын

no lol

@kirbownz7666 8 ай бұрын

I think you should have the texts visible longer than 1-2 seconds. I am not native English talker and I read slow, so I need to rewind and pause in order to be able to actually read the long text "This is using flat profile, see the white is white" and "This is using natural color profile, see the white is not white anymore" and whatnot. Why couldn't the text be visible there for as long as the shot itself lasts? If you're thinking "maybe it's in the way" -> move it to somewhere else then, perhaps like bottom of the video for the full length of the video, idk.

@EspenJohan 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this, what about ISO min/max.

@GeneralExpert 2 жыл бұрын

Right now I’ve been using 100/400.

@meljenkins1016 2 жыл бұрын

I use 100/800. Do not go above 800

@MrPavlov18 Жыл бұрын

@@meljenkins1016epends on the situation and conditions, on the bike I can use min.shutter 1/240 iso 100-2200 for excellent stabilization.

@sstefany 2 жыл бұрын

I have found you lose a lot of detail with the blacks getting blacker and greys turning black using Natural and Vibrant. The whites turn whiter and blown out in some instances. Flat is the way to go.

@mundobaik2827 2 жыл бұрын

Hola cómo va la base el sonido de tus vídeos? Graba la pista completamente separada y después la unes en la edición? Suscribed and thx!!!

@adamr8628 2 ай бұрын

good info. Why is your video quality so poor in THIS video? Its extremely dark and full of shadows

@mrheng562 Жыл бұрын

I always use flat ever since it was available in the settings.

@kalef1234 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Slight disagreement from me...I think natural and vibrant have NO purpose, I'd use flat for action and spots too!

@glyngreenwood8377 Жыл бұрын

Well I was going to sell my gopro hero 11 because the images were that bad, really poor. I was following advice from everyone on KZfaq, then I saw yours,, wow, flat is totally different, all sorted now and THANK YOU, Brilliant images, not selling now.

@Dsanrides 6 ай бұрын

I like the natural. It’s gritty, contrasty, and cinematic. Great for graffiti city type vibe without having to grade in post.

@vladimirushakov471 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why my new gopro 10 shoots such a shitty noisy picture. Now I understand! Thank you!

@SudarshanSolu 2 жыл бұрын

Wow watching from nepal

@davjamrid 2 жыл бұрын

I will respectfully disagree. The flat looks too washed out to me. I prefer the detail in the natural (with some vibrancy) versus the washed out looking flat. However, I understand why you would recommend flat. In particular, the building with the American flag. In flat, you lose the detail of the grooves on the sides of the building.

@jcam783 Жыл бұрын

I agree the Flat profile looks better . Suggestions on ISO ? 100-400, 800 ?

@Moonir6907 Жыл бұрын

100 to 800 good for me

@tomstravels520 5 ай бұрын

I find using HDR on the GoPro 12 mode means at least the natural mode is more acceptable now

@danielrockstein 4 ай бұрын

It looks that way, but from a distance. HDR Natural, in fact, has less details than Standard Natural, and Standard Natural has less details than Flat. So, best way is to use Flat or Log if you value your footage.

@tomstravels520 4 ай бұрын

@@danielrockstein I don’t professionally edit my footage so if it’s flat or log it stays that way which I don’t like as I don’t have the software to modify it

@GABANCHANNEL Жыл бұрын

Vibrant for me.. i like the colorful..

@JeanThevenet 2 жыл бұрын

ONLY FLAT is good. The misfortune with these "default" settings, which promise miracles, is the destruction of landscapes, a huge waste of thousands of videos: you shouldn't use anything other than the flat color profile. The sharpness is always excessive too, the last GoPro to be correct was the 7 in medium-sharpness.

@WillieBeard 2 жыл бұрын

You lost me when you said most don’t want it for crazy fast action sports. Your videos (while a welcome break) are some of the minority that DON’T feature skateboards, surfboards, mountain bikes, skydiving…well you see what I mean. This is an FPV action cam. Ask any Redbull enthusiast.

@towerdave4836 2 жыл бұрын

Flat gives you realistic colors

@GeneralExpert 2 жыл бұрын

Agree, though it’s STILL over saturated in some instances. Like, grass for example. Way to bright green even in flat.

@garypranzo9334 Жыл бұрын

If you will be doing any color grading just pick Flat / Native and call it a day. That is the closest you will get to a log mode on the 10 and 11 I would still use natural if I was never going to do any color editing but I always edit color in my workflow of course. AUTO RANT I rarely use the GoPro outdoors so my rant below is for indoor shooting NO to auto WB and Auto Shutter. - Shutter is FPS x2 (Or if available angle 180) - Issue with auto WB is that it can change during a shot and good luck editing that. If you do not set native then at least set a solid temp. as long as you have a consistent WB you can white balance it in post. (Over 60fps is the only time for Auto shutter)

@onlykts 2 жыл бұрын

Flat is much better

@adamr8628 2 ай бұрын

most people buy an action camera to make a VLOG? No, sorry. Most people buy any action camera for recording either action or just everyday filming. Most people are not using a gopro to vlog or upload youtube videos. Many are. But not most.

@Kamikaze3557 Жыл бұрын

Lol, BS, videos are going to utube mostly, if you don’t want to spend hours in DaVinci R just for a utub vid. Most all viewers don’t give a crap as long as it’s content is enjoyable.

@Virtualvideos11 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, but this video could be 2min long! you just repeating over and over 😏

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Жыл бұрын

Most people are going to use it because they know nothing about photography and color balance. They just want 'superficial pop' .. this is instragram culture we're dealing with. I'm hearing grown ass men talking about their 'instragram' accounts. Like what happened to America.