Here's Why You Should NEVER Buy A CHEAP Bentley *$70,000 Repair*

Here's Why You Should NEVER Buy A CHEAP Bentley $70,000 Repair

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Жыл бұрын

Thank You To J&J Auto Wrecking For Saving Me From This Car: bit.ly/GoJnJOH
Before I ever got my cheap 2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur it had been through some terrible things. It came out of Florida, it was only $12,000, and all it needed was keys or the immobilizer replaced with one from a Cayenne... it turns out the keys work perfectly but there are so many problems, fire, hacked up wiring harnesses, missing parts, and possibly a broken steering column. A previous mechanic had replaced the steering column module after it was sold at Copart and they found out they couldn't program the module. They took it to Bentley where they found out that the module couldn't be programmed to the car unless the wiring harness was repaired and with all of the cut up wires and issues we found they wouldn't even try to repair it. Now I know that even if I fix the harness, the car won't run since the column module was replaced.
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@shawnmason5290 Жыл бұрын

Just after the Bentley was hauled away JR’s dad came out and told him that he figured out how to fix it.

@tumekeehoa3121 Жыл бұрын

Son I fixed that thing on my lunch break yesterday.

@devisionhun Жыл бұрын

@@tumekeehoa3121 just had to tap the hammer on the lugnut 3x every day 😅

@cliffordkinnear9705 Жыл бұрын

JR, I studied the schematics and right over here a jumper wire can be hooked up, it totally bypasses the CASS system!!!! Jr, where's the Bentley?

@VidTubeWatch Жыл бұрын

JR's dad walked over to the Bentley and said, "You know I've got the skill and talent to fix you. We can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way. If you choose the hard way, then I am not going to be gentle." First try the car starts.

@RysterARCEE Жыл бұрын

JR's dad could probably turn that Bentley into a heck of an ice cream maker!

@nicholasvinen Жыл бұрын

I think "it needs a new harness" is dealer speak for "it has an electronic problem but we can't diagnose it so let's just charge the customer to replace everything".

@dosgos Жыл бұрын

Make the bill so high that the problem goes away. If some white collar guy came in, $70k might not scare him so the dealer would have to quote like $300k repair and offer a trade-in.

@mph5896 Жыл бұрын

New harness, new computer with a VERY high bill is code for piss off. I have had PLENTY of cars I have repaired in which their diagnosis was complete rubbish. My favorite was a Ford Taurus shorting out the 5v ref system intermittently. They claimed it needed a PCM. I found the issue in 15 minutes. The harness was rubbing through a valve cover stud and shorting out on the 5v reference wire🤣. Literally had it fixed in another 30 minutes and it was good to go for no parts cost.

@630Cars Жыл бұрын

@@dosgos $70k will scare 99.9999% of people.

@dosgos Жыл бұрын

@@630Cars Might not scare any original Bentley buyers. Just us regular folk.

@carstuff4u942 Жыл бұрын

Yep

@Maxzillian Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure a prototype built harness could be had for less, but the reverse engineering would be hell. I'm totally with you, send it to J&J and count your blessings that it all came out cost neutral.

@mikaeljonsson4686 Жыл бұрын

I'd wager he's made a bit of money on us watching the videos... 😉 A swedish businessman once said, "-All PR is good PR!" When ur a utuber even a bad deal is a good deal... ☺👍

@rickcollinsva Жыл бұрын

Good choice to let it go. I did fix a friends simular problem. Bad ground on 1 of the ECU Harness. 4 long days of complicated troubleshooting.

@RexerYTRexer Жыл бұрын

I bet it doesnt even need the harness... watch ivans video from PHAD. Mercedes dealer wanted to replace the harness and he fixed it without replacing the harness

@SteveBassen Жыл бұрын

@@RexerYTRexer There could be a short anywhere in that harness, and there's a ton of common splice points in it that can go bad... if he had a shop he could pull the full interior out and start tracing it all out but it'd likely take weeks and be really repetitive content at that point. The original owner that swapped the column and dumped it ruined the chances of anyone DIY'ing it as well since the original EEPROM probably could have been swapped to the replacement column, negating the need to remarry every component in the start circuit.

@pops55650 Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the “your move” note he left

@tiredoldmechanic1791 Жыл бұрын

Ivan at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics just posted a series on a Mercedes Benz AMG that the dealer said needed a $20,000 wiring harness because it had a communication problem. Ivan was able to solve the problem which was a bad ecu that I think cost $1500 to replace.

@chiefrocka8604 Жыл бұрын

I love it when someone who’s a technical genius can diagnose which actual part is bad So fix that and suprise suprise the car works fine again . I watched a KZfaqr have endless problems with a Gtc bentley like major aggro and it turned out a bentley tech from England said there’s a roof module goes bad stops almost everything working as in boot opening and car starting 🤣

@aftonline Жыл бұрын

I watched the same series. Send the Bentley to Ivan he'll diagnose it...

@Narendra--Modi Жыл бұрын

Saw that series it was tough, Ivan is amazing .

@aelaan12 Жыл бұрын

Just clicked on the link for J&J, what an amazing company to see what they do to part out cars and save from the environment what can be saved. Sure, you could have parted out the Bentley yourself, it has lots of beautiful parts in and on it. What a blessing to be connected to these companies and how they help KZfaqrs out. Right move John, on to the next adventure.

@digitalrailroader Жыл бұрын

Essentially “it needs a complete wiring harness” is dealership speak for “we can’t duplicate or find the problem, so time to load the parts cannon!”

@TrimeshSZ Жыл бұрын

One of my friends had a similar experience with a Phaeton - also diagnosed as having a bad wiring harness, but in the end it was a bad module dragging down one of the CANbus lines.

@lasskinn474 Жыл бұрын

Yeah anything strange going on could come out as that. Even just water in connector.

@jayguditis2102 Жыл бұрын

That happened to my son's car, water in a CAN bus connector, shorted CAN-H and CAN-L intermittently, turned the car into a brick whenever things could not communicate.

@_RiseAgainst Жыл бұрын

The dealership always says harness and quotes a ridiculous amount of money, when they want the car to leave.

@harryfp1494 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was going to say I don’t think it was the harness seems like bs cause they never dug into it really

@OMGWTFLOLSMH Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I highly doubt there's anything significantly wrong with the harness. Note to self: Never buy a Bentley.

@baitse7676 Жыл бұрын

been waiting to see the progress on this Bentley. I must say, loving the content since you sold the building.

@hurbye Жыл бұрын

RIP Bentley.. ps. Thank you for the update. It’s not always about actually fixing it, but knowing what the actual fault is is very good ending

@HoboJoeGarage Жыл бұрын

I’m sure Ivan of Pine Hollow Auto Disgnostics would of had a field day with this car. He’s great at circuitry, modules, wiring, etc.

@sharke28 10 ай бұрын

Knowing someone who worked at Crewe the wiring loom is not bespoke for each car. Bentley had the looms for each car on the line in big boxes to go into each bare shell, the first thing to go in the car. They had to heat up the main loom to actually fit in the cars, so it would bend into place. As you said each car has different modules for the loom to connect to. To accommodate this there were additional attachments that connected the main loom, like electrical tails. The only thing bespoke about Bentleys is the interior. Bespoke bodies and engines went out with the end of Rolls Royce at Crewe. Each new Bentley built at Crewe has a build schedule with everything that goes in to the car so they know exactly what loom setup is in each car.

@AEROSTARCAPT Жыл бұрын

What a timely video series for me. My 2007 Bentley GT was stolen about six weeks ago, recovered by the police about a week later. I had no keys.The key that the thief used to take the car was stolen out of my Volvo which was parked in the same garage. I have an appointment with a Bentley dealer that’s two hours away next week to get the keys reprogrammed. These new keys were purchased at around $1000 a piece from a Bentley dealer, who is closer to me however they refused to program the keys because the car is older than a 2010. I really enjoy your KZfaq postings. I’ve been a subscriber for a couple years and I’m fascinated by the skills you have.

@dosgos Жыл бұрын

That 2010 service cut-off is not planned obsolescence. Incredible!

@mph5896 Жыл бұрын

Yikes. You might want to find a competent locksmith that deals in automotive in your area.

@itsasadbunny Жыл бұрын

WTF, they wont program the keys for a car older than 2010?!!! That's insane! They don't want people buying their future cars or something?

@shakke52 Жыл бұрын

And Bentleys are supposed to be classic cars…smh

@PAIDFOR50 Жыл бұрын

Why would you own a vehicle that needs a $1,000 key? Maybe you're a multimillionaire? If not WHAT ARE YOU DOING?..

@alskjflaksjdflakjdf Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you are able to get your money out of the Bentley. I enjoyed the learning experience. Like you said, big thanks to J&J for taking it off your hands and giving you a great price for it.

@HD-mi3mk Жыл бұрын

Completely disappointed, watch JR sell. Sigh

@sundogaudio851 Жыл бұрын

@@HD-mi3mk cant win em all

@joecrancher2008 Жыл бұрын

@@HD-mi3mk I'm sure there are easier ones out there that he could get instead, viewers would probably get tired of the months or years it would take to sort that one out

@drewping2002 Жыл бұрын

"The more complicated they make the plumbing, the easier it is to plug up the drain!" -Montgomery Scott

@antcartwright2514 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if Ivan from Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics could have fixed this. He just got an older Merc going. The dealer had it for three months and said it needed a new wiring harness for $20k. Instead it needed one module. It was a complex job but he cracked it.

@knocksensor3203 Жыл бұрын

Or super Mario..

@titanicfilmsbymark Жыл бұрын

Ivan is good

@mph5896 Жыл бұрын

Prob yes, BUT he would not want to spend the time to learn how to program the system.

@larrybe2900 Жыл бұрын

For a discount on $70k he might ...... ;)

@derrickrees8895 Жыл бұрын

Yes .. Isn't that Bentley just an S Class V12 under the skin ?

@TorxGarage Жыл бұрын

I bet it's fixable without a new harness but you'd be into it quite a bit of time to trace everything and fix it. Something probably got cut when they swapped or redid the interior. Such an odd history on that car, amazing you were able to get the whole back story on it. Good choice though, time to bail out on it. You don't have the time to spend on it. Good effort sir

@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын

Not if reprogramming the module requires talking to the mothership and the only way to do that is through the dealer. And the dealer won''t touch it until the wiring harness is replaced, you can also bet that it's tagged in their factory systems since they auctioned it for parts....

@FarrellMcGovern Жыл бұрын

@@ckm-mkc I bet some CAN bus uber-hacker could figure out how to spoof the necessary codes because we know the crypto in Cars sucks galactic muffins. Maybe the guy who hacked the John Deere would be candidate for that.

@TorxGarage Жыл бұрын

There's always a way... it's just a VW under it all, after all. They don't want to touch it due to liability. without replacing the whole harness they can't guarantee the integrity of the rest of the harness. Also it's old enough they want nothing to do with it. Luxury brands are really bad about that...

@unknownunknown3368 Жыл бұрын

They say all what he said to protect there brand and say stuff to make shaw it don't go on the road again

@mph5896 Жыл бұрын

I have fixed wiring issues multiple times that were misdiagnosed by multiple different dealers. The key is to have wiring diagrams, connector views, splice locations, and pinouts available to you. For example, Ford: I can buy a 2 day subscription giving me all of this information for $20. Same example, Ford offers a service in which I can remote in with my j2534 and a laptop and program modules, relearn trans shift solenoids, program keys, Exc. This runs $50 for 2 days unlimited. I have never worked on, or even seen a Bentley in person. BUT, that information similar to Ford is available through Er win after a quick internet search. It would just take a specialist or a knowledgeable person to spend plenty of time to figure out Bentleys particular system. JR, its not worth it to him to spend weeks or months on this car. Punt it off and move on.

@CJLeTeff Жыл бұрын

Boy, J&J sure pulled your rear out of the fire on this deal! You should be giving them a shoutout all the time for that! 👍👍🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🤘🏻🤘🏻

@starkyslp16 Жыл бұрын

J&J coming in to save the day again! Glad you have good connects to get out roughly even on this

@rager1969 Жыл бұрын

After I saw your initial throwing in of the towel on the Jag, I knew you weren't going to be able to get this going, since it's more complex, the parts are more expensive and they're not very common. I didn't realize they were so proprietary, though. Right to repair doesn't apply to Bentley, I guess;

@RealRickCox Жыл бұрын

Wow... this is a bittersweet ending I didn't expect. Glad you didn't lose a bunch!

@In_memory_of_Dad Жыл бұрын

J&J Auto Wrecking will always come to your rescue John Ross, they are good friends of the channel and the go to guys when you need parts as well. Everybody needs friends like J&J Autowrecking in their lives...👍🙂👍

@theEagleBeagle Жыл бұрын

it's been a minute since i've heard J&J mentioned anywhere. Good to hear they're still around, and good on them to bail you out of that thing.

@johncollier608 Жыл бұрын

I have the exact same car, down to the colour. Fortunately minie is solid as a rock and still going strong. Such a shame that one is destined to be broken for parts. Thanks for sharing.

@EstorilE36M345 Жыл бұрын

Seems unlikely that we will see this generation of Bentley on the road in 50 years (unlike the ones from 50-80 years ago that can still be repaired by reasonably skilled mechanics)

@marklance033 Жыл бұрын

Bentley said it was a bad harness because their scanner didn't connect all the way to the OBD2 plug.

@ramfrancisuk Жыл бұрын

Well done J and J Auto Wrecking

@mphilleo Жыл бұрын

What an absurd Rube-Goldbergesque start procedure. You could take half of that away and still make it virtually impossible to steal. I guess you know it's effective when even the owner can't drive it away. 🙄👌

@cwwiss1 Жыл бұрын

A wiring harness is just wires. If it isn't shorted or has breaks which can both be fixed it should be fine. The alterations to the steering column, I suspect , is the problem.

@Jamaicawii Жыл бұрын

Kudus to you JR for trying to revive this beautiful machine, at least you tried.

@AlexSoduk Жыл бұрын

While sad, it was great watching you troubleshoot the issues and come up with yet another early 2000s electronics/security problem.

@jayguditis2102 Жыл бұрын

This Rube Goldberg start system is not just in Bentleys, Mercedes does the same thing. They call it DAS for Drive Authorization System instead. The players are called ZGW (Central Gateway), EIS (Electronic Ignition Switch), MEL or CDI (Engine ECU for gas or diesel) and the VGS (transmission). And without a dealer level computer that can actually phone home forget trying to fix it yourself.

@ShivaShakur Жыл бұрын

What a disgrace to consumers..

@RellPurnellakaCarshowRell Жыл бұрын

Wow sorry to hear you couldn’t get it sorted. Learned alot more about these cars from your video. Had this same one same color lol.

@pops55650 Жыл бұрын

Sorry it didn’t work out, but you got to know when to walk away, and when to run. Good choice ! Glad J&J helped out. They seem to be a great company.

@KrazyKarlProjects Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear the Bentley didn't work out. I was looking forward to seeing this thing on the road again. Cool that J & J bought you out of the project though. I hope the Tesla goes better for you.

@CaptainAnytime Жыл бұрын

I feel like you haven't been gaining subscribers for a very long time now, I wonder why that is. Love the content, keep it up.

@DigitalYojimbo Жыл бұрын

I wonder if pine hollow could have fixed the harness.

@lilbz187 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing !

@ragnarocking Жыл бұрын

That's unfortunate - I was especially looking forward to this one. Oh well. Thank god for J&J

@richieduck67 Жыл бұрын

Same thing basically happened on my Passat steering column module went plus one of the other BCM modules had it for a week to fix and they have to authenticate the VIN with Germany to get it to start lucky under warranty

@WeeShoeyDugless Жыл бұрын

A Bentley is just a very expensive VW, probably why you had the same problem.

@terrylessmann2274 Жыл бұрын

J&J FTW! RIP Bentley. When you referenced Sarah McLahlan, I thought you'd say "I will remember you".

@Cartier_specialist Жыл бұрын

Poor Bentley, it was so young to die.

@WatchJRGo Жыл бұрын

Florida happened to it 😛

@michaeltutty1540 Жыл бұрын

@@WatchJRGo No, neglect happened to it. Then again, the Bentley, built in Crewe, and Rolls-Royce, built in Goodwood, are both victims of German engineers leading the pack into following the SECOND KISS RULE. Everyone knows the first. The second is "Keep it Stupid, Simple." The Robert Bosch & Co wiring bound to be a nightmare. To be honest, both Volkswagen and BMW missed the boat. They did the cars backwards. They should have been designed and engineered by the engineers in the factories then found alternative assembly facilities in Germany, then keep the bean counters out of the whole process.

@mycosys Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltutty1540 yeah, thats why they went bankrupt in the first place?

@aabidamn Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltutty1540 Help to break it to you, but Bentley and Rolls were in far worse state before the Germans came in.

@christopherhamilton5557 Жыл бұрын

It really was. That beautiful car deserved to ride again. But walking away on this one was the right thing to do…

@AutoAuctionRebuilds Жыл бұрын

Sad to see this go down the road but it was a fun journey.

@TheHienax Жыл бұрын

Sometimes LS swap is not the correct answer!!! Good experience working with English/German nightmare engineering! At least you still have the jag to enjoy some of the most craziest solutions to easy problems!!

@chiefrocka8604 Жыл бұрын

These things are so cheap in the uk where the car was made because one wrong move means thousands of £

@MarkVinewood Жыл бұрын

That's such a shame but totally understandable given the bill.. It's just sad how bad product design and unnecessary over-engineering kills all aftermarket support. Not good for preservation as these cars will be classic one day.

@RyanGalt Жыл бұрын

😞 My mama's 65 Buick Wildcat had plungers on it's eyeball vents. I never gushed over them though. Maybe find a nice old Buick next

@boatfund2909 Жыл бұрын

I like how creative you are with your titles. ...Awesome

@EggWafflehea Жыл бұрын

That's crazy no car should be like this what is Bentley doing...

@MrMattDat Жыл бұрын

Great recap!

@mikescaradventures4864 Жыл бұрын

@WatchJrGo thanks for calling me back. I am glad your recovering the money you had in it. We will be in touch. Keep up the great content!

@clyde2801 Жыл бұрын

If manufacturers had their way, ALL vehicles would be like this, i.e., impossible for anyone but them to repair.

@kyliewhitlatch Жыл бұрын

Somebody knew what they were doing and hosed you. J and J to the rescue!

@johngrefe2232 Жыл бұрын

damn, my favorite copart buys are "bad wiring" cars. i can pull and rewire entire harnesses from scratch but 99% of the time when the dealer has said it needs s harness / ecm its usually some bad grounds or fuses.

@michaeltutty1540 Жыл бұрын

If you do, get a real one with the proper 6¾ Litre V8 under the bonnet. They can be made work well.

@mph5896 Жыл бұрын

I love a good puzzle. It gets a little tricky when hacks have been in there and start swapping parts through.

@gregoryjewell1 Жыл бұрын

It was probably just the ash tray not being plugged in causing all the problems 😁

@Lickxmyxkicks Жыл бұрын

Love J&J they sold me full interior seats for my hummer H2. Had an issue where one of my power seat switches were broken when I received it and the guy was super cool and sent me a new one of another set they had

@red95gts Жыл бұрын

“Needs a wiring harness” is mechanic code for: “We can’t (or don’t want to) figure out what’s actually wrong with it and we want you to go away”.

@brianjacobsen8878 Жыл бұрын

The Bentley Bent. Make's one want go back to the good old days of crank windows and points and carbs.

@mexicanspec Жыл бұрын

Man just run a wire from the battery to the coil through a switch and done.

@chrispy3866 Жыл бұрын

Well done getting all your money back. I enjoyed watching this saga however short lived. Be careful next time!

@richardfarmer6570 Жыл бұрын

Holy crap I was guessing $10,000 for the harness, should have known it would be even more ridiculously expensive.

@jm9782 Жыл бұрын

Bummer that was such a cool spec on the colors. On to the next one

@geraldsmith9540 Жыл бұрын

Sorry it didn’t work out for you brother. It would’ve been nice to see you cruising around town in that. Oh well on to the next!!!

@siroccowind736 Жыл бұрын

That car is like at the bottom of the list of cars I'd ever be interested ever owning. Along with other such cars with excess complexity, ultra high parts prices, limited shops to have it serviced in. And on and on.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH Жыл бұрын

Yep. Add Maybach to the list.

@BRED510 Жыл бұрын

One mystery you didn't answer was why the interior was swapped?

@alanbradford3130 Жыл бұрын

This makes me wonder a few things... - Why are these cars so ridiculously complex? - Why are they almost impossible to troubleshoot? - Why are they so ridiculously expensive to fix? JR is correct, it is a VERY nice car with high quality materials and beautiful design. And yet, it ends up being nothing but a scam in the end. I cannot afford one of these cars, but if I could, I would NEVER buy most European luxury cars. People don't like Lexus, but for serious luxury without the scam, it is the most logical choice.

@markstevens1729 Жыл бұрын

I had a premonition this was “frying pan to gates-of-hell” and the gates are now creaking open. 🤷🏻‍♂️ welcome to Beelzebub’s Bentley Parts.

@cliffordkinnear9705 Жыл бұрын

What I learned from JR; You can do half ass repairs on a BMW but you can't do half ass repairs on a Bentley. (Not JR specifically-just folks in general) The only issue I have with Bentley and their anti-theft system is a Black Hat tech savvy car thief or thieves will find a way to steal a Bentley. It's too bad the previous owners totally effed up the security system (CASS) which ruined the ignition system. It's a serious reality check for anyone with the financial resources to buy a new or used Bentley and or Rolls Royce to do their due diligence and make dam sure the previous owner or owners did any "mods or fixes to the car's ignition/security system.

@Parknest Жыл бұрын

John, it would be nice to get the Bentley up and running but you have to be realistic and this is the best way to cut your losses (yeah, I know you broke even). This car was indeed built in the UK in the Bentley factory in Crewe which is about 65 miles away from me. This is the perfect example of why "Right to Repair" is important. Your Silver Shadow must be simple by comparison.

@cliffordkinnear9705 Жыл бұрын

Reliability, Repairability, and Maintainability has been engineered out of newer late model vehicles,............

@unstablebobgable Жыл бұрын

If I could work on the Bentley with Watch JR Goes I would drink the shot of whiskey and cold Bartle Skeets with him and pack up the Hash Pipe with Rocky and get all schmoked up.

@michaelrichards7429 Жыл бұрын

So looking forward to it running and driving. Maybe I might not get a Bentley/ Rolls-Royce after all.

@AlfaGiuliaQV Жыл бұрын

At that point J&J must have been like angels from heaven haha. Talk about dodging a bullet.

@BSGSV Жыл бұрын

3:44 A new wiring harness for the Bentley: $35,000. Labor to install: $33,900. Wait time: 42 weeks. KZfaq clicks: PRICELESS.

@edgewood99 Жыл бұрын

Cars don’t need this level of complexity.

@dontuno Жыл бұрын

I was kind of hoping that as you put it back together you'd find some crucial broken wires but is was not to be. Glad you are not out of pocket.

@gasolara2002 Жыл бұрын

The shifter mechanism has a sensor at the park position that makes sure the rod is seated in park. Personally I think you did the right thing. Doubt it needed a wiring harness. The trouble you would have to go through wouldn't be worth it. You would need ODIS (VW software) to read and work on it.

@Narendra--Modi Жыл бұрын

Love to have seen JR cruising in it, at least we you didnt loose on it.

@peterdevreter Жыл бұрын

Nice one, you dodged the bullet there! Congrats on getting your investment back!

@stevenlangdon-griffiths293 Жыл бұрын

A good honest video.

@chiefrocka8604 Жыл бұрын

I’m on eBay uk looking at these for £12000 thinking hmmm I think I’m gonna buy a old Ford instead 😂

@WeeShoeyDugless Жыл бұрын

MUCH safer bet👍👍🤣🤣

@donaldhhopper Жыл бұрын

I bought a 1976 Datsun 280Z in 1977…paid $5600. Had about 5k milled. Unfortunately I discovered that after driving just 15-20 mikes, or some other drinking conditions the car would loose power, mis-fire and the tachometer would begin bouncing from actual revs to redline event few seconds. That’s why it was on the used car section at a Ford dealership! I worked at an aerospace company while in college so I borrowed a multi-meter and invested in a shop manual. Low and behold I, over time,traced it to a bad set of “points” in the distributor. The car has two, the second set kicking in to advance the spark…replaced it and all was fine! In my senior year I sold it to my roommate who drank too much whiskey and crashed it into a bus at my university!

@dave3657 Жыл бұрын

I had a truck where the harness shorted out. It’s not even close to the complexity of a Bentley. But I bought a universal harness made for hot rods, gutted mine and wired back in the basic harness. It started, ran, had signals and all my accessories worked. Always wondered if a car like the Bentley could dump all the computers and put in a less complicated wiring harness.

@jimmyfleetwood1118 Жыл бұрын

Good thoughts. Just one part of the problem with changing so much would be how to smog check it. It's all integrated. OBD II cars are tested on a computer, and not the sniff and roll of the older cars.

@andrewthacker114 Жыл бұрын

Wow what a story, amazing complexity.How much did you pay for it ? Thanks for heads up. Sometimes I think of buying an older Bentley, 😅

@jamesr5741 Жыл бұрын

That is an insane history! It did look pretty dodgy though at the start...

@ryanmacewen511 Жыл бұрын

Call Ivan at Pine Hollow! He the man! Reminds me of when I tried to find a fuel pump relay on my new to me Audi A6. lol. Learning curve.

@dosgos Жыл бұрын

Great case for Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics!

@toddtonis Жыл бұрын

You made the right decision. Bentley would make it impossible for you to troubleshoot a repaired harness and you'd be making a 25 episode video doing it; who wants that.

@bobstroud9118 Жыл бұрын

J&J saves the day ! Here in beautiful (grey) N.E.OHIO !! N.E.OH Bob

@tylerschierholz7534 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@lutha1720 Жыл бұрын

A sad ending to the bentley such a pity the wrong people came across it before it went to the dealer, I remember a while back in my country we used to have a company that specialised in rebuilding wiring harnesses they closed down due to a fire. maybe they could have saved that harness and you would just need 35k to have the modules coded with the secretkeys.

@dm5374 Жыл бұрын

I was about to buy a similar Bentley, but chickened out. Boy am I happy now.

@htahana3461 Жыл бұрын

Glad you're getting what you have in it back,it's a shame it's a nice looking car in that colour and interior.

@nathansautodetail Жыл бұрын

So many cars go to waste sooner than they should because of the strangle hold of dealer only servicing. It's the same way with electronics sometimes. Apple is one of the worst offenders in that space. I work in computer repair and have to tell customers way too often that there's nothing I can do or it will cost more than it's worth to fix because of how it's designed.

@mikeluscher159 Жыл бұрын

This would be an interesting challenge for Ivan @ Pine Hollow Auto diagnostics, maybe tag team in Keith Defazio 💪

@MikeBeauchamp Жыл бұрын

You should put the VIN in all of the descriptions of the videos in this series so a future person can find all your history and discoveries with the car.

@windronner1 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations. When the juice ain’t worth the squeeze. Knowing when to NOT sacrifice the channel Is the best decision.

@ronseasyfixjustdoit5098 Жыл бұрын

That would be great if you could have got it running I'm glad you got your money back you are a risk taker on those fancy cars I wouldn't do that but you have a great channel.

@nickc7494 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to upset you but I think there is a hack to get it going.the modules are series so one break in the system causes lack of communication. I’d tear that car to the skeleton and look for a shorted wire. Remember a lil heat can melt wire insulation and pair 2 wires that shouldn’t be paired. When I was younger I worked at Chrysler Plymouth Dodge, I pulled out dashes and always came across a pinched or broken wire short to ground. Also with relays a little moisture will cause acid which break continuity. At least you broke even

@mofomoco Жыл бұрын

I feel you man. I got swayed by a auction "cheap" 05 cayenne turbo. Mechanic is telling me it is a waste of money. Now I am stuck with it or lose a bunch of money.

@Tool0GT92 Жыл бұрын

Just suck up the loss and take it as a life lesson.

@markmooch Жыл бұрын

Is there a core part of every wiring harnesses for this model that is the same for each car? How difficult would it be to take the harness out yourself and copy what’s there?

@dewdew34 Жыл бұрын

Send J&J a nice Christmas card !

@Shauma_llama Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that you can't get it running, such a nice looking car. Too much technology. I'm a computer programmer and hearing the story from you I think "but why, why did they need to make it so complex?"