Comfort is a highly individual thing. Chairs are like shoes. What is perfect for one person's feet can be a nightmare for another person's feet. And while you can be lucky and find the perfect fit on first try-on, usually it takes a while sitting in a chair to work out whether it works for your body. That's why a good return policy is critical.

I have old and new Aerons side by side and one issue for me with the new one is that the mesh is noticeable more stretchy I can feel the plastic edges more on the seat and on the top of the back (even my older aerons are about 8 years old). I was not sure if it was expected, checked local store and indeed, it was firmer. I requested a replacement for these parts and it became better (maybe my first one had some defective part), but still not as firm as the old one. 2nd issue, seat on the C size has sharper edge under the legs, smaller models have smoother edge. I though it was some kind of defect, but found the same thing in the local store.

To avoid the leg fatigue under my thighs I use the forward tilt function along with a foot riser to reduce the pressure. I’m seated usually 6-9 hrs a day. Also the Atlas headrest was a great investment. Reclining to meditate in this chair is amazing!

Have it for 3 months, amazing. First 2 weeks were painful at the edges of my thighs, but then, damn. I can stay sit for 6 or 8h without any pain. My back is thankful.

Hi btod! Got to say I appreciate all the videos you guys give because all of them have given me an insight upon chairs. I didn't think chairs could be so in depth but here I am. So I've been wondering what chair would be good for me I've scrolled so many videos on your page on multiple chairs, going through your tier lists as well and I'm still not sure what's best for me, maybe because I haven't been to a physical store yet which I plan to do soon so i can test them out but even if I do the stores don't have every chair so that's gonna be a hassle. So, I just moved into my new house, I've got a room now and I'm about to go full time with my work and hobbies which mostly depends on my computer so I'm gonna be spending alot of time sitting. And all I've used is a wooden dining chair or I just sit on the floor I've never purchased any chair that costs so much. But I don't mind about the money I just want it to be worth it. I'm the type of person that moves alot in my chair when im working or focusing on something or even when im gaming whenever I have the time for it. I don't know why but I really switch in multiple positions in the span of an hour I might've went through cross leg, straight 90, hunch back, flat out and hugging my legs etc So I do know that these chairs are to force you into a very healthy position but is there a chair that feels comfortable even if you're in any other position? I also think a chair that has a good recline and rocking motion would really suit me because of my hyper movement so that could be a factor to upon for me. A headrest is optional but I tend to think that stress will be added onto my next if there isn't a head rest. I was thinking of getting the Aeron but when i learned that seat isn't the type where it can move I was cautious, the leap v2 looks really nice but I don't know if it'll suit me Because of the rocking and recline test seems to be minimal. The gesture seems to fit the most flexible and economical category but how's the recline and rocking? I've also had my eye on a more cheaper option like the Neue chair or is it called the Triiger? I would also love to know more about this chair because not many have talked about it and you guys have the best reviews! Thank you if you do see this!

Who else already bought a Herman Miller Aeron and is just watching videos about it to affirm and marvel at your purchase.

took out the lumbbar support and its much better now! thanks for the idea, it was strange to do at first bc who even wants to take features off

Just got the Aeron. Near perfect for me. Would recommend people try it before buying. Only complaint is when I rock back, the seat seems to be scratching against the mesh. Anyone experience the same?

Thank you for the review - you brought up some essential stuff which helped me decide whether or not to get this chair

Excellent review.

Still love my Aeron v2 with Engineered Now headrest after 3 years, but I know its not a chair for everyone. Another good video from BTOD!!!

What do you think about neue chair from secredlab. I still think im hoing to get the gesture but just found out about this chair.

While I love my Remastered Aeron, I felt this was a well-crafted critique. I'm 5'6", 148 lbs, and I've had no issues with the frame digging into either my knees or my shoulders, but I do think that it can be rigid, and can make you uncomfortable if you don't sit with good ergonomic form, which can be annoying when I'm in the mood to cross my legs. Such rigidity made me pick up a HÅG Capisco just so I could experience a chair that has the complete opposite ergonomic philosophy. After using the Capisco for about two weeks I went back to the Aeron as my daily driver - it's just way more comfortable to sit in for longer sessions - but during periods when I want to be more creative, or I happen to be more fidgety that day,l I'll often switch out the Aeron for the more dynamic Capisco.

Hi Ryan. I’m deciding whether to get a Size B or C. The official size chart shows I’m a size B - 170cm/62kg. The Size B seat fits me just nice with not much extra space but B’s backrest seems to be “too fitting” to my back, as I can somehow feel both sides of the frame at the narrowest part of the backrest (somewhere near armrests area), although the salesperson assured me that my body is still within the mesh by appearance and not touching the frame. Size C is of course wider overall, but the lumbar support is less ‘intense’ compared to B. Which size suits me more?

7:10 so no other office chair as a smooth recline? i thought only the steelcase chairs have a friction to prevent rocking smoothly.

How high is the seat off the ground when the chair is in it's lowest position?

Great video nice setup but can you do a follow up especially on the Herman miller chair I’ve been through 4 chairs now last ones the razer one where the lumbar has movement yeah it’s painful I don’t like using my setup sometimes because I know so reviews on that chair please

I have been using it for 1 month, it has been my most expensive purchase so far (my backs deserves it lol), and it's phenomenal, it is very comfortable, I love everything about it, even the seat which is kinda de most negative thing you mention, if you pick the right size for you, it works well.

hello) and what do you say about the chair okamura contessa seconda - maybe you have a usage report? what is better: - herman miller aeron - okamura contessa seconda

kind of unrelated, but have you heard of or reviewed any "OfficeStar" ergonomic chairs? Up here in Canada options are limited for low/midrange ergonomic chairs and they seem to have affordable options offering decent adjustability.

Does the polished aluminium get scratched 🧐 , is the standard base better?

Hi, urgent opinion needed, I'm about to pull the trigger on a HM, I need comfort and softness and customizability, would you recommend Aeron or Mirra 2? I'm getting a corporate used deal at discounted prices of about 320$ for Aeron and 250$ for Mirra 2

I used one for years. I freakin' love it. my knees, hip and spine are messed up and the Aeron is the ONLY chair I want to sit in.

In a one year period, I bought an Aeron and a Leap. I returned the Aeron to Herman Miller and bought a refurbished Mirra 2 elsewhere. So now I have the Steelcase Leap, and the Mirra 2 by Herman Miller. I sit in the Leap. I like to look at the Mirra 2. The Mirra 2 is good, but more for decoration, occasional sitting, and for guests. The Leap is for daily sitting.

Great review guys, would love to see a review of the haworth zody

Tried it & Wish it could recline back even more then I would definitely get it

The Mirra 2 has all the features of the Aeron and some it should have. Mirra 2 back is flexible. If you decide to go with the extra lumbar support it is far more realized than that of the Aeron. The only reason why I would like to add an Aeron is to get a darn headrest. Atlas is supposed to come out with one for the Mirra 2 so hopefully it happens within the next year or so. I'm waiting on a Fern to come in to try out. That chair has me curious.

My butt hits the metal on the backside of My Aeron Classic B size chair. I only weigh 160 lbs. Is there a way to prevent this? Am i missing something?

I'm interested in getting a nice office chair and I was interested in trying this particular one. I was even able to try it at a nearby Herman Miller store. However, it's really tough to spend $1,500 on something that I may not end up liking. I mean, spending $1,500 is tough in general, but it's tougher when I don't know if I'll actually end up liking the product after some time. The rep I talked to at the store said that I can return it for any reason after 14 days, so that's at least something. I may still get this chair, but if there's another office chair that is also comfortable and much more affordable, I'd like to know.

I always use an ergonomic foot rest when i sit (i sit for many hours a day and it needs to be comfortable as im an illustrator for my work). Im 6'1, broad. And the Size C is perfect. Perfect leg length and it feels like a comfortable throne. I personally thought it was more comfortable than the embody overall, and the Mirra 2.

I fell into the category of disliking the Aeron. I've been using a Gesture at work for 5 yrs and love it in the sense that I have zero aches or pains. It's just a chair that I can sit for 8-10hrs and not even think about it. Working more from home I decided to splurge on a chair and wanted to try something new so I tested out the Aeron and Embody 'in-store' for about 30mins each...and liked the Aeron more. However after buying and using it for 5 days, I just couldn't take it. At 5'10'' 145lbs sz B, I guess the mesh padding didn't 'mesh' well with my sit bones or something. I could not find a comfortable position. So just booked another Gesture. It's so subjective that you really just have to try it out for a few days to see if it is the right fit.

I recently bought a replacement office chair. Tried several in a day. It only took me a minute sitting in an Aeron to make me realize its not for me. I couldn't stand the sides of the seat pan curving up. Very uncomfortable for me. Many times I like to lean back and cross my legs and that's almost impossible on this chair. I also tried the Leap V2 and Amia and ended up going with the Amia. Best chair I've ever owned.

I've had my Aeron Remastered for about 8 weeks. I sit on it around 10+ hours per day. I'm 5'6 and 140lbs and have the size B. It is the perfect fit for me. I love the recline which I use occasionally, because to keep my back happy I need to sit with the backrest locked in straight and both legs on the floor. The arm rest adjustability is fantastic. I have the left much lower than the right because my desk is slightly higher than it should be so my right arm can be level with the desk as I use the mouse. I shift my weight and body to the left when I read stuff off a screen to my left and that's when the lower arm rest adjustment comes into play. The soft padding of the arm rests is also perfect since my arms or elbows do rest on them a lot. I agree that the inflexible seat frame is a bit of downer for those of us who like to sit with one or both legs on top at times. I can still do that, but it's not that comfortable because the hard plastic frame is , well, a bit too hard for comfort. The back support also works well for me. Sometimes I need it more firmly adjusted and at other times more loose. Easily achieved. On the whole, this chair will be with me for a very long time, so it was a good investment though at first a bit expensive. My health and productivity deserves the best support and this chair delivers. It also looks cool. 9/10. Would have been a 10/10 if it had softer seat frame :)

Did you try the Size C?

I personally love the Aeron but I can understand the love/hate relationship people have with it. Transitioning to WFH with the pandemic my lower back was hurting constantly due to my cheap chair. Standing more wasn't fixing it so I decided to invest in a higher end chair. I tried the steelcase leap, herman miller embody, ergochair 2, and the aeron in that order. Ultimately I went with the aeron as even after one day of sitting my back pain was gone! The leap was my second favorite but it just didn't sit upright enough. I'm shorter at 5.5 and 150 so the Aeron fit me just fine. I am able to sit cross legged in it and feel like i can move my legs around decently, but I agree other chairs will be more forgiving. That said I may pick up another chair here shortly as well, I think most people would do well with having multiple chairs to go between, because none are perfect.

Will you guys be doing a similar review (2 or 3 year) for the Gesture? Curious to know your thoughts over the years for the Gesture if anything changed from your original review

Every body is different. I find the default lumbar support much more effective and stronger on the Aeron than on the Leap V2 and Gesture. I have had all three for a long time and much prefer the Aeron Remastered. Thanks for the video ❤️ PS: You are also reviewing the Aeron with your feet hanging from the chair. Lol

Which size is this

what is this chair wchich u sitting on it? my wife is cosmetic and i am looking chair for her too

Hi guys, does anyone know if it is normal that the chair can come without the armrest switch (o make it go up and down)?

Believe me i have same chair in office and i to face this issue no headrest , no seat adjustment every single word is true, love from India

Please review HON Ignition All Mesh variant

Despite what people say I absolutely love my Aeron. I am lucky in the sense that I am a good size for my size chair, meaning I don’t experience a lot of the issues people bring up with the plastic frame against my legs etc. As for the chair deciding how you sit, it’s like being on a diet. A diet doesn’t say eat healthy when you feel like it and eat a bunch of junk when you feel like it. This chair forces you to sit in a way that will repair your posture and lead to better comfort/less need to reposition yourself over time. That being said if you are not the right “shape” for this chair and are experiencing pains and annoyances then you should definitely just get a different chair. If you are thinking about trying it don’t let bad experiences seem like the norm. This is not the chair for everyone but if it IS the chair for you then you will love it. Try it for yourself and take advantage of that return period!

As a 6 foot 2 man who had chronic back pain and spends upwards of 12 hours a day in a chair, writing, making 3D scenes, and playing games, this chair totally saved me. I had maybe a dozen other office chairs but my back was getting progressively worse. Earlier this week, I had to sit on another chair for just one evening while I exchanged the piston on my Aeron, and I was in so much pain that I was wincing. The next day, back in my Aeron and the pain was gone within hours. A head rest seems odd to me, and I removed the additional lumbar support. I swear by this chair.

Thanks for the helpful vid. I am curious - what size chair is that? From afar, it looks a bit on the smaller side for you. Did you try the next size up? Maybe I am wrong, but that could change the way you are able to move in the chair. Do let me know, if you can, as I am really interested in getting this chair for me. By the way, I currently have the very affordable Modway Articulate Mesh Office Chair, which was $152 when I bought it in Feb., 2021, but it is very limited in many ways; and I have actually tried the Aeron in the HM store and found it quite comfortable and impressive with all of its features, especially the recline tension which you accurately describe as similar to a rocking chair.

i have same issues with my aeron that i hate after one years, the seat is so tight for me and the frame push against my thigh is very unconfortable, i'm looking to get a chair with a wide soft seat and sell the aeron.

i'm 6-4 220 so i can now forget about the Aeron. I need longer seatbase coverage which is hard to find then there's the backrest, needs to be longer with really strong lombar support.

I’ve had this chair for about a year now and I find it gives me neck and trapezius pain . Not sure if anyone else gets the same issue as me.

You are one of the most honest and transparent channels I've come across in youtube and, believe me, I consume a lot of content on this platform. You could just say how amazingly perfect the Aeron is and sell tons of them, but instead you provide us with all of this useful information so we can truly find the chair that truly suit us best. You even go as far as putting your own chair in the lower ranks of the tier list that you make (which only honors you even more). It was because of you that I bought the steelcase Leap V2 (I live in Europe so I couldn't get it from you, unfortunatly) and I've never looked back. Love my Leap and I'm so grateful you help me find it! Even thought I don't need to purchase any more chairs I still enjoy watching your great content! Keep it up and don't ever lose the honesty and passion with which you review chairs. You truly are making the world a better place (and our backs will be eternally grateful to you).

When mentioning your daily driver in a video, it would be good if you named what it was at the time of publishing.

I've had mine for 3 years and it's been really hard wearing but it's really bad for relaxing in. My lower back has been getting really bad recentley and so I replaced it with an RH Logic 400, the difference is amazing my back has improved drastically in 2 weeks. Maybe I had the Aeron setup wrong but it's been such a relief replacing it.

Not being able to cross my legs was a complete deal breaker for me as I like to do stretches every now and then while seated. I got a leap V2 instead and couldn't be happier.

Hi bud, you just saved me a wad of cash, as I was going to buy this very model. I'm 5.11 and that seat wouldn't do at all. Cheers. 😉

Why are you sitting on it with your heels off the floor? It's interesting that you don't find the lumbar support pronounced. I am the same height (although less weight) and I can dial it in so hard that I will fell like its pushing me out of the chair. I am thinking of downgrading back to sayl from Aeron because sittiing in Aeron feels like a workout either for legs/thighs or spine however I adjust it :(

I tell people that the Aeron is a great office chair because it kinda forces you to sit properly. I would not use an Aeron at home for leisure because of the same reason. I want more flexibility to move around.

I don't notice any change in opinions compared to the review 3 years ago

Honest question: Why do people use a chair’s recline?

You want the seat to be deeper? Erm, what? When you were sitting on it properly you had on finger of clearance. I myself (same height as you) thinking about changing it to a smaller one.

Works for me. I love it.

You get what you pay for. I’ve used a mesh Amazon 200.00 chair for ten years and my back has been killing me off and on over the years. Finally upgraded to the Fern. But in terms of value, unless you have a cat that urinates on it and destroys the mesh, Herman Millers will keep their resale value for many years. It’s a good investment in the long run.

I've had mine 11 months and I have fallen out of love and regret dropping the close-to-$2000. My issue is I keep sliding my butt forward and doing the back-killing slouch. Exactly what I thought the Aeron would prevent me from doing. maybe Im blaming the chair for my own behavior, but I'm not a happy owner.

I've had my Aeron for nearly 10 years and I love it. It's easily the best office chair I've ever used.

I love this chair. Buy it everyone!

So the Leap 2 is your daily driver?

25% off right now in Nov.

I want a Mirraeron

Why is your desk 1600 dollars? I've never owned an electric desk and I want to know what to avoid

ADDING THE HEADREST VOIDS THE WARRANTY

As of this comment, Feb 2 2023, the Aeron price is now $1,805 for fully loaded with Graphite. an average $150 increase in 11 months...FYI..if you're interested in buying one, don't delay as prices can still get higher

What about the mirra 2?

I absolutely loved my Aeron... for half hour at a time. I would get butt pain (on the sides) after half hour and it would only increase until I basically had to get out of it. Doing a 2/3 hour sitting session was extremely painful. I endured it for close to 2 weeks to see if perhaps it was my body adjusting.. it wasnt. Returned it for an Embody. Embody was even worse.. but in a different spot, the sacrial, I couldnt even endure half hour on it, also returned it. Sadly my old chair is falling apart and I still need an alternative :/

Ive had every chair from the herman miller aeron, to humanscale freedom chair, lifeform 2490,, steelcase leap v2, vertagear pl4500, global concorde, DX craper king(racer) and the most comfortable chair is........................................................ the nightingale CXO.

6' 190lbs guy here. I have the size C Aeron Remaster, and I cannot say enough about it. Very solid build, very comfortable. Great for long sit-down times behind a monitor. Stupid expensive, but when you figure the time spent for a keyboard warrior, it's not bad at all.

I'm using a metal folding chair right now, I'm pretty sure its gonna be a great chair for me. Just ordered one today

Is it only me that the elbows can't reach the armrests even though they are adjusted to the highest position? I'm 176cm and using size B.

Bought a full featured one with all the options. $1900 dollars. I received it today. I also wanted to love it too but I hate it and am returning it. I bought a C size chair and since the seat will not slide forward or back you need to fit the chair. I don't fit the chair and the seat frame digs into my thighs. I love all of the adjustments and the recline motion is a dream. I wish they added an adjustment of the seat depth because then it would probably fix the issue of the frame digging into my thighs. Sitting in it was painful and I tried every possible sitting position but it was just awful. The hard outside edge make it impossible to get comfortable. It's like being tortured. I am going to try a Leap.

That's exactly why I went with size C instead of recommended B. And I'm only 5'5" and about 120 pounds. Lack of seat depth adjustment and low shoulders support. And yes I can't sit in one position all the time. Sometimes I seat in half lotus or full lotus position and you can't do that with size B.

Yes. Lack of seat depth adjustment is a HUGE miss. Like WTF. Even sub $400 chairs have seat depth adjustment. Makes no sense to me. Herman Miller will say this is why they have B and C seat size options. But come on. There are many people who otherwise fit fine in a B sized chair but must go with a size C seat that is oversized in all other areas.

I have the Aeron and Embody in my office. The Embody is the chair I use 90% of the time. It is just more comfortable for me.

When you feel like you need a head rest, it is time to take a walk.

Hey, please start adding chapters to you videos, thanks!

Never buying a HM ever again after the CEOs comments on bonuses for employees while she made 4 million. Haworth Fern for life.

The Aeron is an iconic but ultimately frustrating chair. It is too rigid, particularly in the seat. There are many chairs that allow more freedom of movement in the legs while still providing very firm support in different positions. I do like that the arms of the Aeron are cantilevered from the back. However, given that you can’t sit sideways in the chair even briefly given the side bolsters, the design of the arms isn’t that useful. Lastly, didn’t they reduce the adjustability of the tilt limiter with the remastered Aeron? My impression is that it used to be infinitely adjustable, and now it only has 3 adjustments. That’s very disappointing. Meanwhile, the only padded chair that I know of to incorporate its more sophisticated paddle “tilt-limiter” adjustments (which I agree are better than tilt-locking mechanisms) are found on the ludicrously expensive Taper Chair from Herman Miller (by way of Geiger). As someone who is probably slightly outside the 5th to 95th percentile range that Herman Miller is aiming to accommodate, I’m quite dismayed by the offerings of some of the bigger design manufacturers in North America. I would advise anyone in a similar situation to look at companies that still offer padded seats (e.g. Nightingale, ergoCentric, Soma Ergonomics, Sitomatic, Neutral Posture, and, in Europe, constituents of the Flokk group such as RH and Hag). The arms and frame of a chair should not impede changes in position, as this is bad for circulation. This is my opinion as a layperson in the ergonomics field. If anyone has similar issues with the seemingly regressive mesh seats so in vogue today, please advise. In general, much as it chagrins me to say this, there is more innovation in the ergonomic seating space occurring in Europe and Japan than in the US. It is a shame, and I hope that these foreign companies can make inroads in the North American market. In any case, this was a good review and I completely agree with your observations on the Aeron.

What is odd about this product and this channel is most of the hosts rave about the HM Aeron and have it at or near the top of their lists but then a video like this gets posted saying “I cannot use this chair for 8hours a day” wait what??? All the other reviews from this channel have the HM Aeron as a top premium product that you cannot go wrong with. I’m just baffled and I’m not baffled easily. In my humble opinion, It makes me think that the only reason the negative aspects are pointed out is because the host on this channel get to use so many products that small things that may not stick out to other users with limited exposure to high end chairs, stick out to them.

got a 50 dollar chair with a 20 dollar pillow i attached to the chair, does the same thing and has great back support and comfort, 1600 for a chair damn

I do not like how he says opinion lol

O pinion

I just returned my Aeron chair. It had been 30 days. They are giving me a full refund, I didn't have the original packaging, and they had someone come and pick it up. As far as I know, they aren't charging me anything. I used an old Aeron at work for years and loved it. The new one I bought for my house must be a redesign because it wasn't the same. I have severe back problems and at the end of the day, my back was hurting so bad, I had to quit using it.

I believe he needs the bigger one

Oh-pinion

No headrest.

So, this guy at 180 cm should have gotten a C size instead? :D

Well overpriced chair FACT. Joke price $1600 should be buy one get one free at that stupid high price.

That price for the chair is RIP OFF.

Oh pinion

"O" pinion

O-pinion

Chairs in general are unreasonably priced.

5'9" 180# is not average lol

Embody > Aeron