i got my embody last week and absolutely can sit in it for 14h straight without issues. i like the fact, that it supports movement of my back , which is great after some hours working. and it doesnt make any noises.

I narrowed down my choice to Aeron and Embody and then went to the store and sat in both of them. I was leaning towards Embody, but the moment I sat in Aeron, it felt like sitting on a cloud. I totally agree that reclining on Aeron is amazing and the chair feels more premium in terms of materials. I almost went ahead and bought a used Aeron online, while still at the HM store. Then, when the sales rep left for a moment, I spent a bit more time in both chairs. I realized that while Embody doesn't have that "wow" factor... it just subtly feels better over time. The sales rep confirmed that Embody is rated for the longest sitting time in their line up at 11 hours (I didn't ask about Aeron specifically, but other HM chairs are rated at 8 hours). Great review, I think you just confirmed my suspicions from a brief interaction with both chairs!

Well done video - subscribed!

Good video, I definitely will try them out for myself before making any decisions.

Hey, thank you so much for your video I have been trying to get me an answer weather I buy the embody or not. Now I clearly will order the embody tomorrow. Thanks again!

Great video, thank you

I had a chance to sit and compare both chairs few days ago. They are both fairly comfortable and good support for my back which is great for a chronic back injury patient like myself. But one thing I found aeron maybe a better choice for me is, embody has a narrower and rounder backrest when aeron is much wider. I have round back posture issue and I can keep my shoulders open in aeron. I don't see people talk much about the different curveness and backrest wideness but I guess it's worth to mention.

man you had me sweating for a while watching this since I have an Embody on the way, interesting to see that the Embody's armrest's are less adjustable than the Aeron I thought it was the other way around. But I do think I have similar things with the back and the Embody will be a better solution for my upper back where most of my problem is. You should be happy to know that Atlas are making a head rest for the Embody as well, or may already have it out by now.

I was on the fence between the Aeron and the Embody when I was choosing which one to get. Something about the Logitech Embody caught my eye. I have been sitting on it for 3 weeks for 8-12hours/day 7 days a week and I have had no pain in my back/tailbone. The Embody is by far the best chair money can buy...just my opinion. thanks.

I gave up the idea of finding the perfect anything quite a long time ago. The Embody X Logitech G certainly comes close enough, so it’s now my favorite chair, after owning it for about a month. I contacted Herman Miller directly to ask about a headrest. I was informed HM doesn’t design headrests for any of their chairs because ergonomics would be compromised. Using one’s neck and upper body muscles is apparently more conducive to a healthy posture. I appreciate your review!

I just bought an Aeron and I noticed something very important I want to share. The size, A,B,C matters quite a bit it seems. I'm 6'1'' 175lbs, and I NEEDED a size C. In some reviews, I see people with their shoulders ABOVE the top of the backrest. The top of my shoulders are BELOW the top of the backrest with my C. This leads me to believe they are in a size B when then should be in a C. I think this is also what leads people to say the seat rim bothers the back of their legs. Another note is I have slim legs and I noticed there is not much space between my thighs and the rim of the seat. If I had bigger thighs, I can see this may be an issue, however for my size it cradles me perfectly. I can even cross my legs or put one foot up on the lip with no discomfort. The posture fit was something that needed to be dialed in (like everything on the Aeron) and it now feels great after I dialed in the tilt tension as well. Tilt tension I think may be the most important thing to getting the cloud like feel on the Aeron. It is based off your weight, which leads me to believe a larger person using a size B will have a less than optimal experience. In converse, my much smaller girlfriend cannot comfortably engage the lean on the size C. One last thing, on the Aeron the forward tilt feature is dope if you are a gamer that likes to lean forward on your keyboard and mouse. The Aeron follows me upright and forward and then all the way back when I die and stretch. The tilt tension adjust is truly the key to this chairs comfort. I have it dialed in to feel like a cloud and I am truly impressed. TLDR: The size of the Aeron seems to matter quite a bit, and I think more people need a size C than realize. I also think wider people may find something like the Embody more comfy due to the width of the size C Aeron being narrow. Hope this helps you fellow chair hunters!

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I totally get your point. I finally took an appointment with the only Herman Miller dealer in my area and went 2 days ago. Got an hour to talk and try both the Aeron and the Embody. Both felt amazing, really, and like you said the "wow factor" is certainly a bit higher on the Aeron. But the embody has this feeling of effortlessness when you sit on it, you sit as you want, not as the seat wants you to seat. The front frame of the Aeron seat also bothered me a tiny bit in the ~30 minutes I was on it (tried them both for 10-12 minutes then switched a lot to evaluate), that made me a little afraid it would only feel worse in the long term. An finally being tall (6’6’’ or 198cm) the backrest of the Embody just felt better to me. I ordered one yesterday and will be delivered end october. Can’t wait for my new chair.

Not sure if you've found this out yet, but adjusting the arm rests without that noise is very easy. Just lift up slightly then shift, try it out

I tried out both chairs, and while I really wanted to like the Aeron, I ended up going for the Embody for the exact same reason as you.

Sat in an Embody, Aeron, Leap v2, and Gesture yesterday in the showroom. Now I know sizing and personal fit can be subjective but I am 5'10 150 pounds for reference so kinda right there in the middle of height and weight. The Embody has quite a long and wide seat pad, if that matters to you. People on the heavier or taller side will definitely appreciate this feature. The Leap and Gesture competes with it in this area but don't quite match it. The Aeron you would need to test yourself in your Size A,B,C setup but the B was just about perfect for me. It was extremely comfortable in your standard upright office tasking position, possibly the best out of all the chairs. It was very supportive and loungey almost which was surprising for a taught mesh chair and plastic bucket seat. However the edge of that bucket seat you can feel on the underside of your legs and this is where the other chairs come out as superior for at home coziness if you're going to be using the chair for things other than office tasks like watching movies. Ultimately I went with the Leap V2 because he had an excellent condition used black one fully loaded for $450. The Aeron (new) with Atlas headrest was over $1600.... I could not justify that premium. Also I am coming from a mesh Hykken and knew I did not want mesh again. There is something cozy and plush about fabric and feels much better on the skin too. You can sit in almost any position in the Leap/Embody/Gesture and you will be comfortable while the Aeron is very much a racecar tasking position although it is supreme in THAT one sitting position. I would go with the Embody over the Aeron for at home use. It is "cozier" as already stated by default due to the fabric and wide seat which allows many alternate sitting positions. The Aeron is the supreme office tasking chair when you need to get down to business.

Thanks for your opinion. I've used Aeron in the past and felt the same about the top part of back support. Now I'm looking at Embody x Logitech Gaming and it's on sale for 1200 now, so seems to be a good deal

I’ve sat in over 25 different high end chairs from Humanscale, Steelcase Gesture and other variants / models, to the Herman Miller Aeron. I like to sit with my legs farther apart and the Aeron plastic on the sides dug into my quads, Nothing has felt as good as the Embody. I’m sitting in mine right now as I type this,

Hi! Late comment, but recently got a regular Embody after watching your reviews and wanted to ask if there was a transition period for you in terms of getting used to the chair? I upgraded from a Sayl! I ask because I notice my hamstrings feeling pressure when sitting on the Embody and not sure if its a seat height/depth issue or a “Im not used to sitting in the Embody” issue yet. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

For your back- get a rogue reverse hyper. It does wonders. Use it every other day

I recently got a Aeron remastered (B). It's fairly comfortable, but I can also only sit in it for a short time, mostly limited by the mesh. I'm interested in the Embody, but i'm afraid i'm too tall for it. I'm 6', and seeing as you're 6'1", do you feel like the back rest is large enough for you? I've read about people around this length having issues with their shoulders being pushed forward too much, and they feel like they are a bit too large for the chair.

Nice detailed review, 👍 I've been agonising over these 2 chairs myself as well, I'm leaning toward the Embody (logitech). Do you know what the overall depth of the chair is? (front seat edge to outermost edge of the frame on the back) It's one detail I can't seem to find, HM site only gives seat pan depth. Want to make sure it'll fit through my doors when I eventually bite the bullet.

Golden Sun? Now I have to find a way to play it again, thanks a lot. But really, thanks for the review, I'm the same boat as you in everything except height :)

Excellent review. Thank You. I have narrowed it down to Embody and Hawthorn Fern. Have you heard of or trialed the Fern ?

Some reviewers say that the emobody pushes your shoulders forward. Would you agree on that? Did you had problems with forwarded shoulders in general (before herman miller chairs)?

Omg, I really liked your Cannon in D electronic edition background. Maybe a thing to point out would be to decrease background volume, it feels sometimes to deliver too much information to the viewer (your voice + visual content vs. sfx/music). Nevertheless your video is really nice! Thanks for your notes on these chairs

Thanks for the deep review. I’m spending hours trying to choose between the 2 and this helps. I do think you could use a better microphone and get rid of the annoying background music, would be a lot easier to listen.

hello. would you recommend the embody for rear shoulder blade pain? from mouse shoulder my delts get sore...do you think the aeron or the embody would be better for the shoulders?

ty for video

Does the embody round your shoulders forward? The top part of the backrest is concave...is this intentional?

I just got one 4 days ago and initially hated it because the lumbar region dug into my back but it just takes a while to break in. I did push hard on the area a few times which seemed to help. I think over time the back of the chair molds to your own back.

Do you have any updates regarding the chair now (after a couple months)? Do you still prefer it over the aeron?

"no chair can fix not exercising" amen It's just the tip of the iceberg, though. Been getting more new problems other than my back. Can't fuck around anymore with my health.. just turned 36.

Interesting. The first week with my Embody was painful. I had to move the backrest all the way up to support my upper back, so nothing would poking in my back's mid-section. It's slowly getting better though. Doesn't feel like those plastic fingers aren't poking me that much, anymore.

I have had an embody for a good year now and am trying the aeron as the embody is really aggravating my lower back and I feel it’s adding to my si joint pain. It’s also giving me bum pain after a while as the seat isn’t very plump and that’s with some extra foam I put in. This is the Logitech gaming edition. I have ordered a size c aeron remaster and am 182cm and 80kg hoping it will be ok

I believe that, deep down, most people choose the Embody chair because of its attractive design. If we removed that differential appeal, no one would choose it because it is less adjustable, makes noise, has more plastic, and generally, everyone perceives it as of lower quality. However, the mind needs to justify something illogical because, in reality, the purpose of an office chair should be quality and comfort before an attractive design. In the end, humans end up making more emotional than logical decisions.

Also ordered an Embody x Logitech like 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately I got no notification on the delivery date but I'm very excited. I also read that Atlas will release a headrest for the Embody in a few month.

If you lift up slightly on the embody arms, they become much easier to adjust from side to side :)

you think the aeron has "god like" armrests? the steelcase leap v2 armrests are the best in the industry with full 4D positioning. Although this is a chair i got used for £160 (RRP is £860) as I am currently waiting for my custom order with HM for an embody. Medley 60167, White Frame, Full Aluminium top spec paid around £1354 as its new.

Gosh I was watching all kinds of reviews and MOST of them said to get the Aeron. I originally wanted the embody because I like the looks of it more but I need to make sure I prioritized the comfort and ability to sit for 8+ hours at a time since I work from home. Now knowing your experience I am even more confused. WHICH ONE DO I GET???

This video was pretty high quality for a brand new channel. I was in the same boat, I also saw these two chairs as being my endgame for a long time and finally got myself a used Aeron a couple of years back and hated it. This was because the seat didn't let me sit on my foot and I also didn't like the arms because they curved too much when relaxing and that made it hard to game for long periods when not sitting totally upright. I was then considering the Embody but with the used office furniture market not really having any Embodys and with the lack of headrest support I decided to go for the Steelcase Gesture with headrest.

Embody >>>>>> Aeron. He’s, I tried both. The Embody was more comfortable for me. Have not regretted it at all. I have a secondary chair, the Steelcase Amia, great chair as well.

Nice video! The Embody is a comfortable chair but it doesn't force you to sit in an active position. Didn't you experience that.

Most people don't mention the seat bottom "suspension" on the embody which imo is amazing and better than the aeron. As for the armrests, the only feature I need is that they go lower than my thighs to slide under my desk which both chairs can do

I went with the Aeron Remastered for 2 reasons. 1, it's newly designed and much better for posture correctness and 2. I like the style better bonus 3. I prefer mesh, even though I get cold easy, because it lessens the pressure on my body. I would love to sit in an embody but based on these 3 simple things, I chose the Aeron. Bonus, it helps that Aeron has Atlas making headrests but Atlas has notated they are releasing a headrest for the Embody at some point. So stay on the look out.

Try some silicone spray for the creaks. It worked for me.

Are you still happy with your choice?

So… HM needs to make an Aeron remastered seat with an Embody back.

I have the Aeron Remastered but I would instantly get the Embody if they make a remastered version for it. It desperately needs it as it is extremely dated. Needs new arms as well as possibly a better system for the seat pan adjustment and flex. Overall making the chair less clunky and less noisy. They did very well with the Aeron's remastered update, the Embody need's that same treatment.

Good video, use a lot more b roll for better engagement and avd

I was really sad sending my Aeron back. The seat sides would start to dig into the sides of my ass after a few hours, which sucked. Everything else, I loved. Whenever I was sitting in it I felt like a god, its REALLY good. I got the Embody now and I dont have the problem I had with the Aeron, however, everything else sucks. My ass now hurts at the center (laterally) and furthest place back, right at the 90 degree zone, so I guess this one is also going back. This was really surprising since it has all this fancy seat pan tech to supposedly make it feel really good, except it doesnt actually seem to work, its very stiff. But on top of that, you dont have that "feel like a god" feeling on it either, it doesnt hold you like the Aeron and although you can rock back and forth, it feels like it was not meant to do that. Have you found that there was an adjustment that you didnt do before and that fixed any pains you have?

please make more videos

Great review but please turn off the music next time so we can hear you more clearly.

PSA FOR TALL PEOPLE: I'm 6 foot 4 inches tall (4.5 inches to be technical). So my Torso and Legs are both "longer than the average Human. OUT OF ALL THE HERMAN MILLERS THE EMBODY FITS ME BEST. WHY? I have a bad back and the Embody literally HAS THE BEST BACK SUPPORT, once you learn how to adjust it and get used to it. I don't find a Headrest needed if you are spending less than 5ish hours a day in the chair, if you are spending more and are 6'4" or taller, IMO the headrest is MANDATORY to complete the chair.

embody arms rests move loads better by lifting them up when you move them.

Embody. The choice is easy.

i feel a neck pain after i sit on embody for 3 days

The Aeron is better suited for short people imo

embody seat is unbareable for me lol. mine must have been broken or no padding because it was literally harder then hard wood. coming from a secretlabs chair which arent known for being soft. it made the embody logitech look like a freaking brick LOL!!

The point about the armrest is something Herman Miller failed at explaining clearly. The way you are adjusting it is incorrect which is why it is cumbersome. The correct way to adjust it is to pull it up and then adjust it. It makes no noise that way. Its disappointing that Herman Miller didn't make this clear to everyone because I hear this on most reviews.

It would be nice if you actually show the chair.

I almost bought an embody till I saw comments like “spending 1500 to sit” and “spend 1500 on a chair or spend 300 and have 1200 to show off.”

spending months agonising about what chair to buy is more absurd than the price of the chair. could’ve made money with that amount of time that would’ve paid for the chair many times over lol

Good review. Terrible audio.

Nothing outstanding about the aeron

You overpaid btw. with good negotiating skills you can get a fully equibed new embody down to about 965 pound, maybe even cheaper because they are all shipped trough england.

the Embody is not welcome in my home, too ugly.