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To me the original just has a style and immersion that the newer games just can’t capture despite the graphics and gameplay “improvements”

The original battlefront 2 will probably be the best Star Wars game I’ve ever played it was so much and there’s so much to do you never got bored playing it

20015 was a crazy year

OG has some things that makes it so much better, the new one is awesome for how canonically accurate it is and the higher level of detail, the maps are amazing and feel realistic. But the old game is better gameplay wise as it has more diverse feeling units, much more content to play, and for the battles it actually has a strategic element to it. The remake feels like you just spawn in and do your best against the enemy and hope you get lucky with enough points to get the unit you want like a vehicle or hero, sure you can hop out of a vehicle, but the downside is that is soon blows up, so it;s best to pick your vehicle and fight till you die anyway. While the OG you can have ore strategy to it by seeing where the CPs are at and either solo or in multiplayer try to coordinate with your friends, or solo you can often be a shifting factor based on how you aproach an engagement. For example an enginner/pilot is best class if you choose to use mainly a vehicle as you can slowly heal it while driving, or if it's taking too much damage attempt to find a safe place to go, hop out, then repair it. They also act as medics and ammo suppliers. But they are often the weakest having only a shotgun for close combat. Each units felt unique and had a useful role, and again in solo how YOU choose to aproach a battle can often determine victory or defeat. In multiplayer having a friend means you can hop into avehicle with ultiple seats. Often I'd apporach a CP and one would stay int he vehicle to provide support while one attampted to capture the CP. THe fact that how many CPs you owned would effect your reinforcment count also gave some strategy, the less CPs means your troops will be more concentrated on yor CPs makingn them easier to defend, but having more means your troops are more spread out, thus it's easier to lose CPs. Essentially do you try and go on the offensive to take as many as you can and get and advantage id sucessful, or do you try more defensive and work to keep at least half the CPs, and so your game then becomes more skill based. Overall the game has more factors allowing actual strategy rather then simply throwing yourselves at the battle and hoping you win.

Classic BF2 and the battlefront 2 made by Dice has it's pros and cons. For instance, the heroes in Dice Battlefront is better than how they were in the original battlefront 2. But I do like the feature of vehicles spawning on the maps better than spending battle points to play as a starfighter, a AT-ST and a TX-130.

Being able to board other ships in space battles in the og game is sick

Playing the classic BF2 online today is terrifying. The only two classes played are sharpshooter and engineer. Everyone it just one-shotting each other with sniper rifles, or using an aim-flick technique to throw det-packs down hallways and nuke choke-points. It has been refined down to a slaughterhouse. Yeah we thought it'd be fun to play it online just like old times but nah, we were not ready for this new age of warfare.

If EA BF2 had galactic conquest like the original, I would probably never play the og again as much as I love it tbh. But sadly they never brought it over, so it feels a bit lacking on solo/splitscreen action to do

Why the new Battlefront games didn't allow for multi-person vehicles is beyond me.

Both games are good in their own way , but if battlefront 3 fully got released it would be over , because bf3 would have the high ground

I can't agree with the new version having "just as fluid movement". The rolls and he janky jedi/melee attacks do not feel good at all. And the diversity you supposedly get with all the customization goes away in the 1st minute of every battle because points are actually REALLY easy to get, and everyone jumps to the same few specialist classes and plays more or less the same way - save for that new guy you run into once a week that plays officer and sticks to it willingly just to help the team (that's me). Also, not touching on the reward bonuses, like the Precision Pistol from Gunslinger feels wrong. Those points/kill bonuses were a big part of the game too. In the new game you pretty much ALWAYS want to upgrade to a specialist class - but in the original, those bonuses were an incentive for those that were great at the character they put hard work into - or were just really good at. I also am just very dissatisfied with the space battles, as that was a huge part of the original game for me - it's what made me think the original Battlefront was just "a cool little game" while the sequel was awesome. All that being said - I really wish there was a way to mix the maps. I always wanted Bespin in old BF2, but i want Mygeeto, Mustafar, and the old Kashykk in the new game. There's nothing wrong with most of the new maps. There are just some that are way worse than others - but that's how it was in the original. None of you can convince me that Felucia on PS2/360 was a great map. Straight dogwater. The new Felucia is laughably better - even if it feels way too big sometimes.

One point as to why the original 2 will always be better. IN GALACTIC CONQUEST

I think the biggest critique with Battlefront 2 2017 is that the developers at Dice were arrogant and didn't realize that OG Battlefront was essentially a Star Wars reskin of Battlefield. If they had just given us Battlefield 1 with a Star Wars aesthetic it would've been perfect.

One of my favorite childhood memories is all the Saturday nights I would spend with my old man setting up a map playlist with our own story and cranking the reinforcements up so the battles would last a long time. Or my favorite being on opposite teams so I can camp his last spawn with an AT AT on hoth.😂 ah good times. Lol I still play this game and Jedi academy on the regular tho.

The galactic Conquest and full space battles are what makes the difference to me Sure the classes and customization in the new games are better, but the loss of those features kills it for me Sure you get to fight on the capital ships in the new games but it’s basically just another map instead of an actual battle to get to the ships in space

Personally they are both great in different ways

I played the new one only for a little bit, it didn't keep me hooked. I guess there's just more beauty in simplicity.

To summarize it up in my opinion no, this game is still amazing....to me EA battlefront 2 hasn't held up

Vehicles spawning on maps makes more sense than having battle points in way, because the vehicles had set numbers and would just respawn when destroyed so you wouldnt run the risk of the map beeing flooded with tanks , sure youd be waiting for it to respawn but its better to wait in game while takeimg potshots rather than sitting in a menu for ages only to have some lucky noob take it and die causing you to wait even more

Considering that a few days ago I ordered the 2005 BF II disc on PS2: No it is NOT irrelevant.

Let’s also remember we didn’t get a lot of these customizations with the 2017 Battlefront 2. Heck, we didn’t even have Anakin, ObiWan or Dooku as playable heroes that the original Battlefront II had

Being able to hop in/out of ships and the hangars in the space battles seems like a small detail, but for some reason adds so much for me. I also prefer the maps of the OG. The new one is still great though and very immersive.

05 version is better. It may not have the best quality, or all the characterization options as the new one, but at least you can sit down and play the entire game without having to buy anything. Hate buy to play games. Whatever happened to buying a game, and playing? Now it's buy this mission or lvl, you can't play this mission or lvl until you buy this weapon or skin. 05 is best. Wish they'd keep the game the same, but update the quality.

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We could have even better games if EA didn’t kill Pandemic Studios

Prime gaming bought me here. :D They are giving it away. I was confused at first because I had the 2017 one. I am keen to try the 2005 and see how the old one holds up. 20 years later why not! ha.Thumbs up for your video!

I always loved 05. Its what I grew up with. EA BF just can't compete in terms of straight enjoyment. Sure, there's more content in terms of customization and all that, but we're missing a, and let me stress this word, GOOD campaign and some classics like proper space battles and galactic conquest. That's just my opinion though. I do see where you're coming from with everything else.

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The new BFII is just more fun. I’m sorry but it’s true.

Everyone claims that the Original Star Wars Battle Front II is the "Best Star Wars game". I do agree that it is a great game, but there is another game that I think should be considered as a decent contender. That game is Star Wars Empire at War, a real time strategy created by Petroglyph Games where you play as a military commander for either the Empire or Rebels (but there are mods which add different Eras like the Clone Wars and Old Republic).

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Not Considering the launch and other stuff, The EA Battlefront were very well made that you could record HUDless and spectate and it'll feel like you're observing the movies. The models and animations and voice work are fantastic no doubt. However, it just lacks the "freedom" of the classic BF. Surely the modes are fun in the EA but I think how vehicles are treated in the EA is just different. I very much prefer accessible vehicles than those through points and it's just a different feeling. Same with the newer battlefield titles and halo infinite vs older halo games. Instead of running to the vehicle, you could just spawn in one. I don't think it really solved the "vehicle hogging" problem because some players will just stay on the spawn screen anyways to spawn in one. Having to board the vehicle is much more immersive and you could appreciate the size of the vehicles than having them spawned in.

I like both games, but for some reason I can't stand 2017s HUD. it's so god damn busy and it feels extremally distracting. Takes you away from star wars vibes and puts you straight into fortnite

If it was a worthy successor people would actually be playing it you can barely get a match you have to play at like specific times on one mode. The original was better and will always be better it just is better boarding an enemy ship leaving a laat as a spawn point blowing up all the major systems.

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The idea of class customization is nice and all, but honestly I'm more for restriction but help in other ways. I want to be able to look at somebody and be able to immediately tell "ok he's playing this class, this is what they can do, I should be ready to avoid this or exploit this" With star cards there is so much variety you can't tell what anyone has or can do so its harder to formulate strategies to counter or protect yourself from them. Especially if they were a no-lifer at launch or played a ton nowadays and have every star card unlocked and at max rank, then they are just objectively better than new players or casuals just because of raw stats. As you pointed out, in the originals, while not having the class customization, had the ability for people to help one another with all the different slots in vehicles and starships, repairing turrets or droids for use etc that 2017 lacks completely. In all but graphics and audio, I still prefer the original

the battlefront mod for Contractors VR is the worthy successor.

hot take but the remake had the potential to be better than the og if ea didn’t leave the project like they did

I am an OG BF2 supremacist

15+ years playing the OG battlefront II and I never thought of using the mines as a way to kamikaze the enemy… I have been playing wrong all this time.

Remake BF2 doesn't even hit the OG BF2 vibe as well as the PSP games did.

Question: In Battlefront 2 (2005) can you play heroes and villains solo, like without other players? Just against bots?

Just with the new bf2 it was more PVE focused and wasnt killed of early

I played the sh*t out of both & the original SWBF2 is much better & had such a bigger impact!

No that’s why there coming out with the 2000s ones again! 😂

i feel like the different eras should have different weapons because a clone trooper with an e-11d doesn’t make much sense its like a WWi soldier with an MP40

Emp launcher from a jet trooper takes two shots to down a droideka shield. I also seem to be very lucky because by time I’ve reloaded their shields have already received enough damage from friendly fire that the second is a kill

They should have let you squad spawn on ground vehicles to fill in gunner seats and such.

The OG definitely had the better hero’s as well. I would have loved to see jango and mace in the new game

The original was better for me. Heros were mostly balanced, maps were balanced, classes were balanced, and flight controls were intuitive. Plus you could play any mode local or online. Dices game was too dependent online, and the star cards over complicated fhe game. That and flying is terriblenin the new game, let alone how rare it is to get a hero

I still play Star Wars Battlefront 2 Classic!

I wish that the Dice version had instant action and galactic golf conquest. Also has AI enemies

I like a lot about dice bfii. But I feel like its big issue is too many modes and maps stuck only in one mode that is rarely played. I like how classic has all modes on all maps and all maps in instant action.

I rate visuals for its era as opposed to later console. Old Battlefront looked amazing for its era

My first swbf was in 2004 when I turned 10 years old. I played every star wars bf game from PC, console and handheld and I can safely say this, SWBF2 (2005) on Series X and PC, SWBF 1 on Series X and PC, and SWBF Elite Squadron on PSP/Vita are miles better than the current Battlefront games.

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Who needs customization and other crap, when 2005 is much more fun?

Both scratch different itches but 2005 is my fav

I enjoyed the original battlefront games growing up but I wish they added the different legion skins besides just the 501st now you have the pc version to Mod the game into having different legions in the games. I also enjoy the new battlefront game from 2021 it is very interesting having different Legions storm the battlefield as Players play different troopers But regardless I still Prefer the original games more..

Honestly the new battlefront is waaaay better. Still love it even though I grew up on the originals. The lightsaber gameplay and graphics and immersion is so much better. I must say I miss the heros being able to block absolutely everything 😂

Interesting video, but its not pokemon so 0/10 (jk, I actually liked it)

1 simple answer. Same as battlefields. They removed hop in vehicles and it feels like specops not a battlefield

Great video and breakdown but you have to admit that the Droideka rush maneuver in CS on the Republic Venator is BS

The recent battlefront 2 has cool graphic and gunplay but the OG is way better despite it being old like it has more maps, game modes, vehicles spawn, and the grenade were fun to throw and better vehicle gameplay and we all know that the OG has WAY better campaign then the dice version

Battlefront always felt as a more refined Battlefield. (Except for 2142, that one still reigns supreme above all) I would love a game that has the original's ideas that couldn't be implemented back in the days due to hardware limitations. or just BF3 (in the unreal engine 3 or a foss alternative). Despite what detractors say, the dice's 2017 version is the closest to that, despite it's many flaws and horrendous release. the "it's too generic" excuse is just lame. Heroes never felt good in either games, at least not as good as in jedi academy or outcast, but to pick from the original or the new... it's just like the games, both have something that make the stand out and somethings done wrong. (such as the design of most maps in the original, again due to hardware limitations).

of course the OG battlefront is better, and its not just nostalgy the OG battlefront had much much better gameplay mechanics, vehicle controlls are better, heroes are not overly OP and singleplayer is playable, not to mention the galactic conquest and superior story mode (also modders can make OG battlefront another experience with new maps, classes, heroes, character models ect.) EA battlefront only has better graphics, but terrible mechanics, certain CO-OP maps are unplayable, heroes are just brokenly OP and story mode isnt great

The remake animations are so slow and awkward, plus space battles in the new one suck I don’t care how good they look

Say what you want about the EA Battlefront II but you can’t deny that they nailed the maps and environments

The OG battlefront 2 is better in my book

I'm late, but the Gameplay for the reboot was far superior.. except it's too balanced, and not enough freedom like the original.

When the ps2 versions has more content than the new ones. Better naps. Land to air combat. An actual good campaign. Galactic conquest Some of the maps actually had nkre details than the newer ones. Like in geonosis on 2004 version you could go into the separatist meeting room and view rhe map if the actual battle taking place outside. 2004 had seperate factions like tusken raiders wbo wpuld actually fight the rebels or the empife and take objectives from either side 2005 had nkre game modes like hunt for example you want to play as a wanpa fighting debels go for it. You wanna llay as a geonosian go for ot. How about a gungan🤣 The newer battlefront gamws are fun but thats about it

EA’s battlefront 2 technically isn’t a remake cause it has absolutely nothing to do with (2005) battlefront 2

back when games used to be fun

Back in the day Battlefront 2 was great but now as an adult that bores the hell out of me. But the remake is unplayable unless online which sucks.

I personally do not like the scant customization options in Battlefront 4 I mean Battlefront 2 (EA), both for being scant and for existing at all. What I mean is that I play the game to be immersed in the _Star Wars_ world, but the starting blasters and sniper rifles for the characters are all so weak that it is suboptimal not to use a later unlockable. But using those unlockables mean that I have do away with using a DC-15S with a clone trooper, an E-11 with a stormtrooper, an E-5s with a droid sniper, etc. And what's more, the options are so limited that I will always use the NT-242 on all sniper characters. The game incentivizes you not to use the weapons that match the base classes while also offering not enough variety on the other hand to really be called full customization and worth the implementation to begin with. In line with the theme of immersion, I really hate how anachronistic heroes and villains are allowed in the Galactic Assault mode. Gameplay-wise, the reboot's map designs are far inferior. Virtually every map has multiple vectors of attack on all sides at any given time. The scenery is always gorgeous, but there isnt the variety that gives each map a distinct experience like we did with the original, e.g. compare Bespin: Platforms with Hoth with Rhen Var: Citadel with Mos Eisley with Yavin: Arena, etc. Then you add in the overpopulation of heroes and villains in play at any given time, which totally disrupts the flow of play. They're not even as enjoyable to play, with movements almost as stiff and immobile as they were in Renegade Squadron. Going back to immersion once again, this was an issue in the original _Battlefront II_ to a lesser extent as well. In the very first game, although every faction had the same class, their units for each class still had minor differences that set them apart. Clone troopers had haywire grenades (EMP), rebel vanguards' missile launchers were burst-fire, etc. These unique qualities were all removed in _Battlefront II_ (2005) while the jet trooper's EMP launcher and the droideka were nerfed to the ground. BF2 (2005)'s philosophy of balancing was such that every unit had to be exactly the same, which is why we awkwardly got V-Wing as bombers instead of using the ARC-170 as a bomber with 3 seats and TIE fighters with proton torpedoes. In the OG OG _Battlefront_ every faction shared the same class system, but developers were not afraid to give units distinct flavours that not only made them more unique in play but also matched the "real feel" of vehicles better (AT-ATs, Delta-7s, etc. in OG BF1 were all much closer to their movie counterparts). So in my opinion, the most immersive entry was _Battlefront_ (2004). The reboots are more immersive only in the graphics but not the feel of weapons and units. The best format of customization for the series is to restrict options only to the weapons that the faction unit should have access to while also giving these weapons unique differences and trade-offs from one another. A clone trooper should not be using a sequel-era gun! The DC-15S, DC-17, and DC-15A blasters should still have the ionized effect on vehicles and droids while the droid sniper's E-5s sniper rifle should have a unique short duration and perhaps inaccurate burst-fire mode true to its depiction back in _Clone Wars_ (2003).

The remakes lacks in the basic, no single player

Although I like EA's Battlefront 2, that game is a reboot, not a remake. An important difference.

I love playing as heroes in both games, I live for the lightsabers Yaknow And Ea’s battlefront 2 saber combat is amazing (when it was updated anyway) Plus the amount of customization man, I love the classic but this game hits all the marks I just hate how the live service was cut needlessly at the height of its popularity and with no sign of a sequel, it just feels cursed, fuck EA for that alone

Personally elite squadron should’ve been the new BF3

Heroes vs Villains bf2

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Being a player of the original 2005 Bf2, I Still prefer the new Bf2 that Dice made. After all the Love Dice put into fixing and updating everything about it, It Brought to life everything I imagined doing when I was a kid playing the original. The original bf2 was my favourite starwars game for a very long time. But the remake is just that good!

Dice has not deserved any title for their SW games.

“Amazing Star Wars games” *shows republic heroes* 💀

I assume you're a Clone Wars fan?

Eas game being on sale for 4 bucks constantly and only really working with mods should tell you everything

One has a singleplayer dynamic campaign one is just battlefield star wars.

Also ea’s BF2 just as it was getting good they cur off support

You completely ignore or vaguely brush over many important qualities of both games, and it shows your bias towards Battlefront 2 2017. Single player? Predatory pay to win loot box grind fests? Galactic conquest? 🤔

lol original BF2 storm trooper has lower accuracy. 13 year old me never noticed that…so meta.

Didn’t talk about ea being ran by terrible humans

I would have been perfectly content with the new games being called Battlefront 3 and 4. That would have given me hope for a real remake of the 1st two games as one game. All the maps from the 1st, but with the game modes and mechanics of the 2nd, sprinkled with some design touches from the Dice games. (I like the points system - but they should be adjusted by game mode. Too many heroes and specialists after just 30 seconds of play time. Felucia and Kamino specifically need their Dice maps included, as much as I love Kamino in og BF2 - heck bring them both for spearate modes haha) and for the love of god, can we stop having classes that can just shoot rockets at your feet? It wasn't fun 20 years ago, and its not fun now in the remakes lmao. Fuck.

My reason for preferring EA SWBF2 is that I find the objectives and large game modes more varied an interesting. Planting bomb, capture point etc. geonosis is so much fun at the final stage.

I can non stand them adding customization to everything. That's work they could be putting somewhere else. What made the original better was the fact ot felt like you were a soldier. Customization makes me feel like a mercenary. Graphics. Gosh. They look cleaner. But the clunkyness and real feel. Makes it not feel like star wars. I would prefer the old over the new.

He uh messed up the years, he put 20011 and 20015 XD

I have to disagree. I liked the customisation and the modern look of the game. But "starcards" as a positive thing? That was the thing that drove players away in the first place. You had to grind forever to gain them. And at first they were tied to lootboxes. For me this was easily the worst aspect of the game

no but clearly BF1 has, despite having many great mechanics that were removed in BF2

in 2019 we were expecting a 2005s battlefront2 but with better graphics and instead we got that lame sht

Buffs, star cards, all that sort of stuff just makes the game feel bloated